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nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
May 05 2011 14:30 GMT
#1861
If anyone else is annoyed by spoilers in the comments on justin.tv. I made a greasemonkey script that hides the comments panel and adds a button that allows you to restore the comments once the match is over.

You can find the greasemonkey script here http://pastebin.com/9QBZ69rN
My Photoshop stream (requests welcome) --> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304143
fraGGer
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom51 Posts
May 05 2011 14:56 GMT
#1862
On May 05 2011 18:25 Rossweazel wrote:
Would just like to add my voice to the calls for lower quality vods. You guys are doing a great job, and I really enjoy the NASL when I can catch it live, but the vod streaming situation really makes it difficult to watch them (massive streaming time, large bandwidth requirement).

I understand that these issues take time to resolve, but would just like to underline how important an problem this is. As much as I want to support you guys, not being able to use the thing I pay for is a little irksome.


+1, or +10 depending on what the count is up to now!

Someone made the point that it may be only non US viewers are experiencing this, which could explain why there are fewer complaints about it than you might expect? Either that or everyone stateside is watching live where it's not a problem.
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
May 05 2011 16:44 GMT
#1863
Dear NASL

I am from Germany and watch both the NA live stream as well as EU rebroadcast depending on my schedule.

Unfortunately I experience lags, stream dying as well as a poor framerate (in that case audio is fine).

I really appreciate you providing us with a rebroadcast at a reasonable CET time. But as it currently stands.

Do note that I can watch other US streams on 720p or even 1080p fine.

Xirroh
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 17:01:24
May 05 2011 16:59 GMT
#1864
I would love to see Chill cast some games. I thought he was the best TSL caster so far.

iNc and Gretorp are getting much better though. I would love a little more in depth analysis. I've seen both iNc and Gretorp lay down some knowledge in other shows, (like SotG). It would be nice to see that in NASL a little more. Sometimes I feel like there both doing the color commentary.

Yea there is a lag issue with NASL at high frame rates. It's not too bad though.

Also I wish the VOD's were better organized and without spoiler pages. (Could have a 'display result' tap that is hidden.)

It should be noted that GSL essentially did three trial seasons, and then still had to change their format after the fourth season. Overall NASL is doing well for a first season.
prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
May 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#1865
Currently both the stream and vods are unwatchable for me. It feels like it's buffering every 5 seconds for 10+ seconds, which is simply unwatchable.

My internet is fine and so is my computer, it's a recent thing. Is this a known problem? Are you working on a fix?

Thanks in advance
Nobody beats the Beater
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
May 05 2011 17:31 GMT
#1866
Hi NASL, am from India. The games lag like 5 seconds in a set of 20 but the pre and post game is perfect..wtf..
Somethings are just worth fighting for
NoahNickels
Profile Joined March 2011
United States102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 19:16:26
May 05 2011 19:15 GMT
#1867
It's the fourth week and I just wanted to say that I feel the casting has gotten better, as we all knew it would. And i really like to see that for the most part they have taken our suggestions to heart, adding that generic SC2 background to the grey wall behind the casters is much better, although it's still not good it's a step in the right direction. As a designer i'd like to see them use less muted colors, so many of the color they chose are washed way out. it has no pop. but small things. but none of these mean as much as organizing the dang VODs which they haven't touched yet. well at least we have the NASL VOD thread.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 05 2011 19:19 GMT
#1868
On May 06 2011 02:17 prOxi.Beater wrote:
Currently both the stream and vods are unwatchable for me. It feels like it's buffering every 5 seconds for 10+ seconds, which is simply unwatchable.

My internet is fine and so is my computer, it's a recent thing. Is this a known problem? Are you working on a fix?

Thanks in advance

It seems justintv lags affect most northern europe (france not included, germany included)


Anyay, a tip for NASL : show the league standings before and after the matchday, showing who ups and who downs, like a sport league
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
May 05 2011 19:31 GMT
#1869
Increase the ingame sounds. The voice and music volumes are perfect but the ingame sounds are a bit too quite and its nice to be able to hear what happens in the game while the commentators are speaking.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 05 2011 19:52 GMT
#1870
On May 06 2011 04:19 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 02:17 prOxi.Beater wrote:
Currently both the stream and vods are unwatchable for me. It feels like it's buffering every 5 seconds for 10+ seconds, which is simply unwatchable.

My internet is fine and so is my computer, it's a recent thing. Is this a known problem? Are you working on a fix?

Thanks in advance

It seems justintv lags affect most northern europe (france not included, germany included)


Anyay, a tip for NASL : show the league standings before and after the matchday, showing who ups and who downs, like a sport league

And just after I posted that I began to have lag and slideshows during each battle, then even outside the battles, then
[image loading]
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 19:58:20
May 05 2011 19:55 GMT
#1871
On May 06 2011 04:52 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 04:19 MrCon wrote:
On May 06 2011 02:17 prOxi.Beater wrote:
Currently both the stream and vods are unwatchable for me. It feels like it's buffering every 5 seconds for 10+ seconds, which is simply unwatchable.

My internet is fine and so is my computer, it's a recent thing. Is this a known problem? Are you working on a fix?

Thanks in advance

It seems justintv lags affect most northern europe (france not included, germany included)


Anyay, a tip for NASL : show the league standings before and after the matchday, showing who ups and who downs, like a sport league

And just after I posted that I began to have lag and slideshows during each battle, then even outside the battles, then
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Stream is down for me and my friend as well.

No lag beforehand though, it just died, so dunno what's up.

Edit: It seems all justin.tv streams are down right now, so it's most likely a justin.tv issue(desrow and idra who are both streaming via justin.tv right now are both inaccessible).
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 20:03:06
May 05 2011 20:02 GMT
#1872
I watched the majority of yesterday. It was pretty good - much better than weeks 1 and 2. Sometimes Gretorp addresses things that really snap me out of the game and back into reality. Things like:
- I said I wasn't going to say that and I said that
- I'm so stupid
- I said that wouldn't happen and it happened

I like the laid-back approach and the friendliness between Inc and Gretorp, but I think you can continue casting like that AND make some small adjustments to keep the magic going, so to speak.
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Noble
Profile Joined April 2010
17 Posts
May 05 2011 20:20 GMT
#1873
Hey NASL, love what you're doing. But it´s already week four and still the audio is not fixed, left track considerably low in volume and bad soundquality overall. You can do better !

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oYsteR
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom142 Posts
May 06 2011 01:29 GMT
#1874
I have to say I've been pretty critical of the NASL so far (though I don't feel unjustly so, but that's more of a defensive of myself than a dig) but I'm impressed by the shirt change! It looks like a small change but it really does make a big difference.

Good work NASL!
hellsan631
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States695 Posts
May 06 2011 01:50 GMT
#1875
On May 06 2011 05:20 Noble wrote:
Hey NASL, love what you're doing. But it´s already week four and still the audio is not fixed, left track considerably low in volume and bad soundquality overall. You can do better !

[image loading]


This has been a problem for the last 2-3 weeks. Its quite annoying (almost a month) and no improvement. My guess is the cutoff is due to encoding settings, and the balance is due to an improper setup (in regards to the audio monitors used perhaps).

The only other thing I would point is the lack of Play-By-Play of exciting moments. there have been plenty of times when the duo (what ever one thats commentating) isn't talking about something thats happening on screen. (such as banelings blowing up a ton of lings). They might mention it, but they don't do any build up, and aren't enthusiastic about those moments.
Volka
Profile Joined December 2010
Argentina410 Posts
May 06 2011 02:03 GMT
#1876
I just wanted to congratulate you guys you're improving so much, great games. Keep up the good work.
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OptimoPeach
Profile Joined July 2009
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 02:37:05
May 06 2011 02:35 GMT
#1877
So yesterday I complained in the live report thread about lag; I was directed to keep these complaints in here, so here I am.

Everyone seems to insist the lag is on my end, but I just did a few internet speed tests and am averaging between 10 and 12 mbps down, which should be more than sufficient for the stream at its best quality, no? And my computer is nothing amazing, but I can run SC2 maxed out with ease, so I somehow doubt my hardware specs are the problem. I also stream Netflix in 720p with virtually no buffering on a regular basis

I'm really at a loss here. I'll try any suggestions anyone has, because I really would like to be able to watch this live, especially now that it's so consistently awesome. For what it's worth, I've always seemed to have these slideshow lag issues with Justin.tv,
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
May 06 2011 02:40 GMT
#1878
Any word on lower quality VODs?

As I said before, I can't seamlessly watch a 1080p video, and my laptop which is fairly recent, and fairly highly specced maxes out at 766, so the extra 300 odd pixels are doing NOTHING but wasting my time and bandwidth.

When I posted the complaint a week or two ago I did get a PM from someone at NASL ensuring me that my complaint would be read by people high up... Looking for an outcome please!
Play the games!
89vision
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
May 06 2011 03:58 GMT
#1879
why dont they show commercials between games instead of music and NASL logo? Isn't there money to be made and music + NASL logo isn't keeping me watching any more than a promo for (insert SC or gaming technology ad here).

Just saying, love incontrol and gretorp, awesome players in this league, make more money! We want more seasons!
An itch only a deadlift can scratch
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
May 06 2011 04:06 GMT
#1880
I just wanted to say that everything has improved so much, you can definitely tell they're paying attention to feedback. One of the biggest problems I remember having with the NASL at first was the randomly TERRIBLE lag spikes. Even on the lowest settings it would still lag so much as to make it unwatchable. But today I realized that that hasn't been an issue for at least the last few days.

The only other problem I've had is every once in a while (as in MAYBE once a day), the video will freeze while the audio keeps going. Usually this happens when they cut to the logo screen, as in the logo screen just gets stuck. Refreshing the page fixes it, but yeah. Very minor problem, but just thought you'd guys like some feedback on it.

Keep it up!
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