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Jate
Profile Joined April 2011
Thailand25 Posts
May 26 2011 01:51 GMT
#2261
i don't know if some one suggest this or not

but you should state in the schedule if there's any match cancelled

It's pre-recorded, right ? it's not a spoiler or anything, i think, but it makes me

not felling disappointing too much

I wait to watch Boxer and Artosis and none of them can play this week

I know u feel bad but i feel bad to waiting, rescheduling my stuff (since its in the morning here)

to watch and just what i want is not there. Absolutely disappointing right now.

I hope you take my suggestion in to consideration.

Thank you
Believe in yourself....
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
May 26 2011 01:54 GMT
#2262
Hire Mr. Bitter full-time to cast!
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
May 26 2011 02:33 GMT
#2263
NASL is improving by having Mr. Bitter cast.
There's no S in KT. :P
AbeToss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States60 Posts
May 26 2011 02:53 GMT
#2264
Does anyone else feel that the majority of the casters on NASL chit-chat to each other about the games rather than commentate the games to the viewers?
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
May 26 2011 03:10 GMT
#2265
On May 25 2011 18:01 wzzit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 12:39 skeldark wrote:
On May 25 2011 10:40 tskarzyn wrote:
On May 25 2011 10:16 skeldark wrote:
just want to make clear, that only because some guys say they dont like gretorp over and over again,
does not mean that many people think like this.


And just because one person claims to know what the majority of people think, that should not discredit the opinions of many comments from different posters about the quality of a specific caster.


its just like that this people push each other and new guys just hop on. You know this kind of thing you see on "internet-forums" .

Guys who think "i dont like gretorp at all" post this all the time.
But people who think "hes a quit good caster" dont post this all the time because they dont care so much.
Its diffrent with other popular casters because they have many fanboys. Gretorp is a good caster but not one of the guys who collect fanboys. This result in the fact that you see many negative posts here and fewer positive


I think it's just a matter of time until Gretorp is completely accepted as a caster. Remember, people hated on Tasteless a lot during GSL season 1 and 2, but once they got used to him, everybody came to like him.

Besides, the viewer numbers speak the loudest. 15k for both the NA and Euro casts is pretty impressive. If they can get more Koreans next season, they might hit the TSL viewership rates.


I still get bored by Tastosis sometimes... they just don't bring the excitement that casters like Day9 Husky or Moletrap provide. Artosis gives awesome commentary, but I was not feeling Tasteless last night...

...and despite my misgivings, Gretorp is far more boring. Gretorp + Idra or Gretorp + whoever was casting for Fenix vs Sheth are worse than me muting and putting on music.

I think the viewer count mostly shows how awesome it is to have a regularly streaming league that has matches so many days of the week. Of course, by the same coin, it would be impossible to expect GSL level excitement for something that so regularly streams.

This is supposed to be a thread about improving NASL, and this is what I would suggest:

Add two additional streams, one from each of the players' POV with no commentary whatsoever, just the sound of the units and maybe music. That way I can watch Fenix doing awesome multi-tasking, or whatever, and not miss any action (like the casters did), and I personally prefer watching people's live streams (like TLO Huk and Carn to name a few) than many tournament games (I just really enjoy watching the pro's perspective and not having to open up SC2 and download the replay just to see it).

- Hey, Liquid Tyler just started streaming! *closes my NASL tab*
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 26 2011 03:14 GMT
#2266
On May 26 2011 10:54 Nemireck wrote:
Hire Mr. Bitter full-time to cast!


please have bitter cast more games.
NoahNickels
Profile Joined March 2011
United States102 Posts
May 26 2011 03:44 GMT
#2267
Do you know what i love about Bitter? He actually listens to what gretorp is saying? He pays attention to him, look at that eye contact — he responds instead of waiting to talk again. Its takes an active listener to be a good co-host on top of knowledge and being well-spoken.

I hope they bring him back more and more, he seems very relaxed and confident. Lastly, is it just me or is his demeanor rubbing off on gretorp?
"One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high-powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
May 26 2011 04:05 GMT
#2268
Mr. Bitter did a fantastic job, hope to see him casting more in the future.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
May 26 2011 08:15 GMT
#2269
I don't understand the purpose of the European restreaming.
I live in Europe and definately would prefer to be able to see the vods now instead of a restream tonight.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 18:08:03
May 26 2011 18:05 GMT
#2270
On May 26 2011 17:15 Zandar wrote:
I don't understand the purpose of the European restreaming.
I live in Europe and definately would prefer to be able to see the vods now instead of a restream tonight.

they restream it for eu in the evening, so eu have a chance to watch the free stream too and they get some money from the ads.

they dont give you the vods because you need to buy a hd ticket to get them.


@mrbitter casting
did noone notice the thor/banshee joke?
gretorp was thinking it was a joke and so did i. but looks like he was serious.
funnyest part in the cast...

Save gaming: kill esport
Smapz
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway405 Posts
May 26 2011 18:19 GMT
#2271
Hire MrBitter full time! He did an amazing job, imo. Maybe some other casters (Artosis/Day9 w/ djWheat) - but I feel like incontrol and gretorp does a good job. I think the pauses between every match is a bit annoying, but I understand that there's probably a lot of guys out there that likes it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kingcoyote
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 18:27:07
May 26 2011 18:23 GMT
#2272
Hire MrBitter full time!

And allow me to log in to view the ad-free stream more easily Maybe I'm just missing something, but the only way I can figure out how to log in is to attempt to change the resolution, which can't be done until after the ad. So sometimes I have to wait 30 seconds (missing game action since I usually turn it on about 45 minutes after the broadcast has started), then try to change resolution, and then log in and get my 1080p, ad-free stream.

EDIT: Also, I don't like that 60 second countdown timer. That's where ads are being placed, right? For paid streams, it's just as bad as ads. I'd prefer to go straight into the game. If people on the free stream want to not miss the first minute, they can pay.
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
May 27 2011 01:00 GMT
#2273
I like the idea of having a lot of games to determine the best player, but as it gets toward the end of the season, while there are players in awesome matches who are fighting for their life, there are players that "are just playing for pride" which makes their matches pretty uninteresting. I think it will also contribute to the amount of walkovers (if a player doesn't want to waste time playing when they can't possibly get out of their group). I know this happens in regular sports a lot (well it happens inbaseball atleast, cuz its the only one i really watch) but maybe there is some super-clever way to eliminate players who have hopeless records, or give them some kind of point system so their wins will count.

Also yay for Bitter.

Photoshop is over-powered.
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
May 27 2011 01:55 GMT
#2274
I am the only one finding the music transitions (especially at the end of each game) way too loud? I mean compared to the overall level of the casters. It reminds me of obnoxious tv ads volume..

Otherwise great entertainment. Big thumbs up for Mr. Bitter!
Gleve
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States206 Posts
May 27 2011 02:25 GMT
#2275
In the wait time between matches, when the count down timer is counting down. below this you have the side scrolling message says what match is upcoming.
You have the NASL 'Logo' above and on the scrolling text... It looks strange to me, having 2 NASL logos showing. Maybe switch the scrolling text logo to the race match up instead like PvT, PvP, etc.
♞
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
May 27 2011 02:25 GMT
#2276
On May 27 2011 10:55 rotegirte wrote:
I am the only one finding the music transitions (especially at the end of each game) way too loud? I mean compared to the overall level of the casters. It reminds me of obnoxious tv ads volume..

Otherwise great entertainment. Big thumbs up for Mr. Bitter!


No, you are not. The commercials too. I can't watch this in a room with other people in it because the sudden insanely loud bursts bother them.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 27 2011 02:30 GMT
#2277
mr.bitter is one awesome caster
High Risk Low Reward
Trentelshark
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada385 Posts
May 27 2011 02:31 GMT
#2278
On May 27 2011 11:25 aristarchus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 10:55 rotegirte wrote:
I am the only one finding the music transitions (especially at the end of each game) way too loud? I mean compared to the overall level of the casters. It reminds me of obnoxious tv ads volume..

Otherwise great entertainment. Big thumbs up for Mr. Bitter!


No, you are not. The commercials too. I can't watch this in a room with other people in it because the sudden insanely loud bursts bother them.

x2. Whatever ad server JustinTV ties into needs to set volume standards before streaming them because one is dead silent and the next blows my speakers clean off my desk.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
May 27 2011 02:36 GMT
#2279
DONT MAKE THE TRANSITION MUSIC SO GODAMN FUCKING LOUD

Sorry for getting angry here but I've complained about this since day one of it being implemented.

Ok; transition music is good. What is fucking abhorrent is that the bass/tempo in the transition music is immensely more powerful than the bass of the casters, so watching this at night you always ALWAYS have to manually lower the cast 50-80% during transitions (and sometimes inbetween "gg" and after-match talk due the mini-transition and its music) and it's starting to piss me off... infact its gotten louder since before.

Please for us who have NASL in the background get some music that is either in good contrast to the voice pitches of the casters, or atleast make it a tad lower, sometimes its good sometimes its really bad. Just copy the GSL where the casters/music/game sound are always in harmony.
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ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
May 27 2011 02:51 GMT
#2280
dunno about tips but my god the strem sucked for me today

+ Show Spoiler +
watching incontrol vs whietra, my 2 favourtite players really wanting whitera to win. Game 1, just as inc does he warp in on the ramp the stream freezes. I have to refresh and bvy the time i do its gg
game 2. just as whitera runs up incontrol ramp, the vid freezes but i hear them talking still. by the time the vid comes on, its over

really really annoying -_-
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