EPTNaniwa interview translated from Rakaka - Page 7
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Blackk
South Africa226 Posts
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s031720
Sweden383 Posts
Nani; due to personal issues with is family (beeing thrown out of the house) and probably other stuff aswell, he got a name for himself in WC3 and beginning of SC2 to be a douche. He was instable, raging alot and not following tournament rules (basically not keeping times). He has since then (rather recently) publicly asked for forgivness for his previous behaviour and said that he will change. And he obviously have changed although the effect on the community have not really kicked in yet; many still see him as a BM douche while in fact he is far from the person he used to be, hes not more BM than most other players atm. In addition he seems a bit akward when in the spotlight (and I think many can relate to that), so his "PR" skills and tact (as seen in the comment about TLO that most ppl would have realised probably isnt a smart thing to say in an interview; although not BM or "evil", just unstrategical) may not help him; but that only make me feel more for the guy, he is trying to become a better person and he has alot of things to overcome. But personaly I have changed my mind about him and I dont regard him as badly as I used to, I wish him the best and hope that he continues the way he has, and the community will embrace him sooner or later. TLO: But no shadow should fall on TLO either (If that speculation was true). Deciding who to live with is a much bigger question than just skill in SC2; and it takes some integrity to actually stand up for yourself even though you might hurt other ppls feelings. I have a lot of friends that I love, but that I wouldnt necessarily want to share living with unless I had to. To sum up: 1. This "thing" of TLO/Nani much more drama than substance; give it a rest. 2. Nani is trying to change his Public Image, most likely because he as a person and his situation have changed, even though it dosent come easy for him; give him a chance. Edit: Btw if you watch the interview you cant help to feel for the guy  And even if you dont know swedish, at 3.40 he makes the remark about TLO and that he kind of understands why TLO would think its PR; I think the facial expression says it all. | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:42 Inori wrote: are people asking "what's wrong with Nani?" for real? You really don't know what's wrong with him? Have you completely missed beta and first few months of retail? Naniwa is so bad mannered he makes Idra look like an angel. He openly offended his opponents, casters, tournament admins and whoever else got in his way whenever he felt like it. He's the guy that could refuse to play a game just because there's a caster and tell tournament admins to go to hell when they ask him to start. Seriously he's so bm I'd wish he would just disappear completely from the scene. I fully support TLO on this. Was | ||
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:42 Inori wrote: are people asking "what's wrong with Nani?" for real? You really don't know what's wrong with him? Have you completely missed beta and first few months of retail? Naniwa is so bad mannered he makes Idra look like an angel. He openly offended his opponents, casters, tournament admins and whoever else got in his way whenever he felt like it. He's the guy that could refuse to play a game just because there's a caster and tell tournament admins to go to hell when they ask him to start. Seriously he's so bm I'd wish he would just disappear completely from the scene. I fully support TLO on this. this! and you cant expect people to cahnge their mind about you from 1 to another second. he has to prve. and he has to do this for a long time. he has been BM for years. he cant just say: "I changed, no everyone love me. Instantly!" i think if naniwa will prove himself to be an adult for some more moth he could get the invite for this house. but i wouldnt get him in there until he has proven not being a dick over a period of a year. and i gotta say that he still didnt learn how to act properly when you read this interview. to those who say he has to get in the house cause of his still: would you invite someone who BMed for years and didnt show any respect to anybody to live with you 24/7? i wouldnt and you would not too. | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:46 Inori wrote: Oh, so 1 month of keeping his month shut (wow, what an achievement) and winning MLG means everyone should suddenly forget all the BM he did? No thanks, he should take full responsibility for his actions. Forgive, not forget. Has been way more than 1 month. He got kicked out of ESL and MYM because of how he acted, personally I think that's enough. | ||
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
I don't know how the house works but if TLO is the one in charge, I don't think that's good. It shouldn't be a player but I think I'm reading this wrong so it doesn't matter anyway. For Naniwa I think it would be so good to be able to live in the house. If the stories about his youth are true that should explain the majority of the attitude. He needs love and belonging (Maslow's hierachy of needs), living together will allow him to satisfy this need. However, I feel it's very inappropriate to speak out about something like that in an interview because it literally stirs up a rockus as is already taking place. I just hope he did it intentionally and the community feedback will allow him get reevaluated for the house. TLO is such a pleasant person I feel he will be strong enough to rise above any issues from the past and allow Naniwa to better himself and develop. Best of luck to everyone. | ||
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Demozerg
Sweden18 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On April 13 2011 17:57 leser wrote: lol, love the way he is antagonized because of clan hopping and bm like it actually matters. the only thing players should be punished about is cheating, end of list. Yeah, why would sponsors care about good representation by their players. | ||
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s031720
Sweden383 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:48 Tppz! wrote: this! and you cant expect people to cahnge their mind about you from 1 to another second. he has to prve. and he has to do this for a long time. he has been BM for years. he cant just say: "I changed, no everyone love me. Instantly!" i think if naniwa will prove himself to be an adult for some more moth he could get the invite for this house. but i wouldnt get him in there until he has proven not being a dick over a period of a year. and i gotta say that he still didnt learn how to act properly when you read this interview. to those who say he has to get in the house cause of his still: would you invite someone who BMed for years and didnt show any respect to anybody to live with you 24/7? i wouldnt and you would not too. Just watch the interview, and you can see he was not beeing a dick. Its all in the heads of ppl who ALLREADY dont like him. At 3.40 he make the remark about TLO, ill translate it; Q; Why will you not live with them? A; TLO dont like me, I dont know what to say about that. Q; TLO dont like you? A; Thats what Ive heard anyway, thats all I know. He said it would be bad PR I think. I understand him I guess but... [Interviewer tactfully changes subject] He looks really sad, not angry or "dickish". | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:42 Inori wrote: are people asking "what's wrong with Nani?" for real? You really don't know what's wrong with him? Have you completely missed beta and first few months of retail? Naniwa is so bad mannered he makes Idra look like an angel. He openly offended his opponents, casters, tournament admins and whoever else got in his way whenever he felt like it. He's the guy that could refuse to play a game just because there's a caster and tell tournament admins to go to hell when they ask him to start. Seriously he's so bm I'd wish he would just disappear completely from the scene. I fully support TLO on this. Why are you saying "is"? He hasn't been bad mannered this year even as far as I know, and the tournament he got kicked out of was in october LAST YEAR. I can see that there are personal reasons, and I don't think it's any of my, or anyone's business, but your post is pretty insane. It'd be like claiming MC is horribad, because in the beta, and in sc:bw, he wasn't considered good at all. It seems like you've just woken up from a coma that you fell into in the fall of 2010. It's april 13th of 2011 dude.. A person can mature over half a year, it's pretty common. Especially when it comes to internet BM -.-' | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On April 13 2011 20:04 hifriend wrote: Naniwa is shaping up to be pretty manner lately. I think it's a mistake on their part, having possibly the best foreign protoss in the house would obviously benefit them tremendously. I have a feeling that TLO said this like 5 months ago or so when they started planning for the house and who would live in it, don't think he would refuse him now. But who knows. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:57 Beyonder wrote: Yeah, why would sponsors care about good representation by their players. Let the sponsors in question worry about that, you don't have to worry for them. Btw Naniwa didn't bad mouth TLO at all, only thing he said was that he was sad that TLO didn't seem to like him. How terrible of him. | ||
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:57 s031720 wrote: Just watch the interview, and you can see he was not beeing a dick. Its all in the heads of ppl who ALLREADY dont like him. At 3.40 he make the remark about TLO, ill translate it; Q; Why will you not live with them? A; TLO dont like me, I dont know what to say about that. Q; TLO dont like you? A; Thats what Ive heard anyway, thats all I know. He said it would be bad PR I think. I understand him I guess but... [Interviewer tactfully changes subject] He looks really sad, not angry or "dickish". Like others said: This talk has no place in an interview. If he feels sad its ok - no its Good! HE has to feel sad cause he realizes that he did a lot of major mistakes. Talking about personal differences or presenting other in "no good light" aint what you do if you're that famous. This can be seen as BM and other people will curse at the TLO (in that case). Thats what i wanted to say. I already recognised Naniwa being sad while reading (its pretty obvious i think). But my point is that he has to show this cahnge for a long timeto prove him being an adult. I dont even know if he said he was sorry to those he BMed (the important ones: ESL, casters like Take, or especially Cloud whom he left all alone without any words). Maybe I missed it but it would be a good start. | ||
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s031720
Sweden383 Posts
On April 13 2011 20:23 Tppz! wrote: Like others said: This talk has no place in an interview. If he feels sad its ok - no its Good! HE has to feel sad cause he realizes that he did a lot of major mistakes. Talking about personal differences or presenting other in "no good light" aint what you do if you're that famous. This can be seen as BM and other people will curse at the TLO (in that case). Thats what i wanted to say. I already recognised Naniwa being sad while reading (its pretty obvious i think). But my point is that he has to show this cahnge for a long timeto prove him being an adult. I dont even know if he said he was sorry to those he BMed (the important ones: ESL, casters like Take, or especially Cloud whom he left all alone without any words). Maybe I missed it but it would be a good start. I think you seem a bit too upset my friend Why are you so agitated?Its just a kid that you have never met, in a far away country where youve never been, trying to become a better person. HE is not pretending everyone loves him (or should love him), rather the opposite; he believes most dont and maybe for good reason. He dosent HAVE to do anything to "prove he is an adult" as defined by you, simply because he dosent have to answer to YOU or any of the other haters; all he has to do is trying to be the best he can be and se how far it takes him; Haters will still be haters no matter what he does. But there are alot of fence-sitters and they are starting to see another side of Nani, as I have, and I think that makes up the majority of the community; ppl that dont give much of a f*** about past transgressions aslong as you repent and change. Its more important who you are today then who you where, aslong as you regret what youve done eveyone deserves a second chance. Im a firm believe in that. | ||
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ZeraToss
Germany1094 Posts
On April 13 2011 20:23 Tppz! wrote: Like others said: This talk has no place in an interview. If he feels sad its ok - no its Good! HE has to feel sad cause he realizes that he did a lot of major mistakes. Talking about personal differences or presenting other in "no good light" aint what you do if you're that famous. This can be seen as BM and other people will curse at the TLO (in that case). Thats what i wanted to say. I already recognised Naniwa being sad while reading (its pretty obvious i think). But my point is that he has to show this cahnge for a long timeto prove him being an adult. I dont even know if he said he was sorry to those he BMed (the important ones: ESL, casters like Take, or especially Cloud whom he left all alone without any words). Maybe I missed it but it would be a good start. well i guess, he would apologize for some mistakes, TLO would not have something against nani in the house, cause TLO is nice, i guess lets just hope he stays like he is NOW (not bm) , so he can be part of that house with TLO morrow and Sjow | ||
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
On April 13 2011 20:32 s031720 wrote: I think you seem a bit too upset my friend Why are you so agitated?Its just a kid that you have never met, in a far away country where youve never been, trying to become a better person. HE is not pretending everyone loves him (or should love him), rather the opposite; he believes most dont and maybe for good reason. He dosent HAVE to do anything to "prove he is an adult" as defined by you, simply because he dosent have to answer to YOU or any of the other haters; all he has to do is trying to be the best he can be and se how far it takes him; Haters will still be haters no matter what he does. But there are alot of fence-sitters and they are starting to see another side of Nani, as I have, and I think that makes up the majority of the community; ppl that dont give much of a f*** about past transgressions aslong as you repent and change. Its more important who you are today then who you where, aslong as you regret what youve done eveyone deserves a second chance. Im a firm believe in that. Oh sorry. I'm not upset ^.^ DIdnt want to make someone feel I am  Sure he doesnt have to prove him not being BM anymore but that should be his aim. I'm not hating him - its just that i dont think people wont forgive him being soo harsh that fast (or should). And still thinking of the content we're talking about (not being invited to the team house) i just wanted to lighten up why TLO maybe doesnt like Naniwa to be in "his" house. And I have to agree (and i think you're saying the same like me before): "ppl that dont give much of a f*** about past transgressions aslong as you repent and change." Dunno why we are arguing at all right now :D | ||
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