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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
April 13 2011 05:58 GMT
#101
I was cheering for him to go undefeated at MLG Dallas. If his goal is to go to korea to play in GSL than I really doubt living in the same house with TLO matters that much at the end of the day.
There's no S in KT. :P
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 13 2011 06:03 GMT
#102
The difference is, Nani has definitely turned over a new leaf compared to his former self. It's too bad that he got left out, if he wanted to be a part of it. Maybe they will change their minds, I mean hell, If his teammate Sjow is there you'd think he mighit be allowed as well.
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Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
April 13 2011 06:13 GMT
#103
I think the people in the house was decided way earlier than most people here think. As in before he joined dignitas and before he improved so much.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
April 13 2011 06:15 GMT
#104
Glad to see a foreigner with the guts to play in the GSL.
twisted03
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden137 Posts
April 13 2011 06:35 GMT
#105
On April 13 2011 07:53 Saechiis wrote:
Well, this interview goes to show the bad PR Naniwa delivers. Kind of a cheap shot accusing people like that in interviews, surely not professional. He shouldn't expect years of BM to wash off after a month of good behaviour and a MLG win.


I can't quite see how anything in that interview was a cheap shot, he said what he knew, nothing more. He also seemed quite humble, especially towards the end.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
April 13 2011 06:45 GMT
#106
I duno, i didn't follow naniwa too much until recently. Where I saw his games in GCPL and MLG. Personally, I believe he definitely has established himself as one of the best foreign players.

HOWEVER, I see two problems with naniwa preventing him from being recognized as a player.....like how Idra, Jinro and White-ra are being recognized.

First of all, from what i read, he has a pretty bad record. I'm not saying that means he's still a terrible person, I mean, he was what? 16? Being kicked out of your house and school, making a living playing computer games? Ouch.

It's fair to say that he was still a kid, and everything he did CAN be forgived........if you can clean up his image and prove to everyone that he has changed.

I mean, look at him and Idra. They are both well-known for BM, but the reception of these two players are completely different. Idra BMs, but everyone knows, besides that he's very professional and serious about the game. But Naniwa's problem is on a different level, being late for matches and just completely misses them shows everyone u don't care. That's different from just trash talks.

But yeah, I still hope he can put his shit together, he should if he wants to realize his full potential as an awesome player.

On the other hand......from his interviews here and in MLG, I just felt this troubled young man who lacks some social skills. You can see his excitement and passion about the game, look at the moment when he beated kiwi in MLG final game......that's not an "it's ok" reaction, that's a "FUCK YEAH" reaction. It's just that he doesn't really know how to express them with words. Poor Nani

Graupe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany178 Posts
April 13 2011 07:08 GMT
#107
Seriously people shouldn't think about the past too much, especially if you know the circumstances in which he behaved the way he did. I can only try to imagine how hard it is to get kicked out of home and school and when gaming is the "only thing" left you take your bad mood into the game.

I'm really sad for him not having a chance to join this european progaming house,because skillwise he definetely deserved it. Also if some of you talk about professionalism, the manager of this european house (afaik TLO?) has to consider Nani, because like I said skillwise he is a MUST.

I can't follow the PR-argumentation aswell, because like someone said "any PR is good PR". Also I think no one will like the european progaming house less, because of Nani who has a bm past.

Personally I would love to see Nani having a chance to live there and prove that he isn't that bm anymore.



Btw I also think some european players are rly bm towards him nowadays. Can't remember who he faced but in one BDL match his opponent provoked him so bad and Nani just blocked him instead of trashtalking back.


Best wishes to Nani!!
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
April 13 2011 07:14 GMT
#108
On April 13 2011 16:08 Graupe wrote:
Seriously people shouldn't think about the past too much, especially if you know the circumstances in which he behaved the way he did. I can only try to imagine how hard it is to get kicked out of home and school and when gaming is the "only thing" left you take your bad mood into the game.

I'm really sad for him not having a chance to join this european progaming house,because skillwise he definetely deserved it. Also if some of you talk about professionalism, the manager of this european house (afaik TLO?) has to consider Nani, because like I said skillwise he is a MUST.

I can't follow the PR-argumentation aswell, because like someone said "any PR is good PR". Also I think no one will like the european progaming house less, because of Nani who has a bm past.

Personally I would love to see Nani having a chance to live there and prove that he isn't that bm anymore.



Btw I also think some european players are rly bm towards him nowadays. Can't remember who he faced but in one BDL match his opponent provoked him so bad and Nani just blocked him instead of trashtalking back.


Best wishes to Nani!!


Adults know that actions have consequences. If Nani has changed he will understand that he is now suffering the consequences of his own actions. Just because he's been acting more nice lately and won MLG Dallas doesn't mean his past is erased. That will happen gradually over time.
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Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
April 13 2011 08:54 GMT
#109
I think most important for Naniwa now, is just to contintue in this new "good" path for a period of time, and then ppl will change there attitude towards him. He needs to prove hes matured. Maybe then TLO will allow him in.

Just pure speculation tough as everything else in this thread, hehe


If you dont do it, someone else will
leser
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia239 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 08:59:22
April 13 2011 08:57 GMT
#110
lol, love the way he is antagonized because of clan hopping and bm like it actually matters.

the only thing players should be punished about is cheating, end of list.
lulz
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 09:45:06
April 13 2011 09:07 GMT
#111
[QUOTE]On April 13 2011 15:35 twisted03 wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 13 2011 07:53 Saechiis wrote:
Well, this interview goes to show the bad PR Naniwa delivers. Kind of a cheap shot accusing people like that in interviews, surely not professional. He shouldn't expect years of BM to wash off after a month of good behaviour and a MLG win.[/QUOTE]

EDIT: invalid argument
Saying TLO does not like him, or thinks he's bad PR, even if true, which probably is, the healthy attitude would be to not speak to it, as you can notice in this thread, some ppl are calling out TLO on this one.

Naniwa was in another teamhouse a couple of months ago with Cloud and maybe s1 else, and menaged to get himself kicked form the league he competed in and went to that house to be able to do so. He left then simply, and if i remember CLoud's words correctly he didnt even say anything, or clean up the mess after himself.

Would you want him in ur house after incidents like that, cuz he won an MLG, and havent called anyone a waste of oxygen in a major league in the past month?
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 13 2011 09:22 GMT
#112
What are you talking about? There is a link on the main page announcing the house. And what do you mean with "healthy attitude?" He answered what impression he had about the situation, I don't see what's wrong with that. And I do remember Cloud talking about Nani leaving and what you wrote is true, but you left out the part where Cloud spoke well of Naniwa.

I'm not saying they should be obligated to invite him, but come on, at least try to give people a second chance.
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blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
April 13 2011 09:24 GMT
#113
if i remember correctly, a few years ago naniwa said he was acting out because he was homeless and getting kicked out of school. takes a special kind of person to do something like that. seems like he didn't change either.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 13 2011 09:43 GMT
#114
On April 13 2011 18:22 nihlon wrote:
What are you talking about? There is a link on the main page announcing the house. And what do you mean with "healthy attitude?" He answered what impression he had about the situation, I don't see what's wrong with that. And I do remember Cloud talking about Nani leaving and what you wrote is true, but you left out the part where Cloud spoke well of Naniwa.

I'm not saying they should be obligated to invite him, but come on, at least try to give people a second chance.

Huh, i wonder how i missed that then, i stand corrected

Though my other 2 points stand imo, by healthy attitude i mean professionalism. Saying TLO does not like him created drama, antagonizes him, in my opinion. He got asked an unconfortable question, the kind that you ought to dodge a bit
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
April 13 2011 09:49 GMT
#115
Umm Naniwa is more accomplished than TLO at the moment. While I understand the hype and attentions around TLO, pure skill wise Naniwa would be a great team mate to have. Someone who developed on his own and actually won tournaments with impressive records.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
April 13 2011 09:51 GMT
#116
On April 13 2011 18:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 18:22 nihlon wrote:
What are you talking about? There is a link on the main page announcing the house. And what do you mean with "healthy attitude?" He answered what impression he had about the situation, I don't see what's wrong with that. And I do remember Cloud talking about Nani leaving and what you wrote is true, but you left out the part where Cloud spoke well of Naniwa.

I'm not saying they should be obligated to invite him, but come on, at least try to give people a second chance.

Huh, i wonder how i missed that then, i stand corrected

Though my other 2 points stand imo, by healthy attitude i mean professionalism. Saying TLO does not like him created drama, antagonizes him, in my opinion. He got asked an unconfortable question, the kind that you ought to dodge a bit


Yeah maybe, he was probably bummed out about it though, so you can't really blame him for mentioning it. It'd be nice to hear if TLO has anything to say about it though, cuz this is just speculations and it's awfully one sided.

Either way they invited Maven to the house, who on air appearantly hadn't heard that there was a tournament called MLG, and thought WhiteRa had only played MC once.. it's the kind of stuff that's been a head liner on TL.. For anyone even slightly interested in the starcraft community it's almost impossible to miss. Imo it'd be better for PR to invite Naniwa instead. It might be something personal though, so what do I know.
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Klaent
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden374 Posts
April 13 2011 10:11 GMT
#117
The plan is probably to have Maven do some videos and stuff from the house to promote it a bit.
Naniwa also made some comments after being banned from ESL, that TLO got special treatment and dident get penelty points when he missed a deadline, and that he got to play more games then everybody else in the qualifier.
That might be one of the reasons TLO doesnt like him... I dunno.
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MrKefka
Profile Joined August 2010
49 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 10:24:13
April 13 2011 10:19 GMT
#118
On April 13 2011 19:11 Klaent wrote:
Naniwa also made some comments after being banned from ESL, that TLO got special treatment and dident get penelty points when he missed a deadline, and that he got to play more games then everybody else in the qualifier.
That might be one of the reasons TLO doesnt like him... I dunno.


Considering the reputation of ESL, it would not suprise me if this was true. Anyway, I hope Naniwa will keep on playing and keep on winning and go to korea.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 10:24:55
April 13 2011 10:23 GMT
#119
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
April 13 2011 10:27 GMT
#120
I don't see why people overreact about the naniwa and tlo thing. Teamhouse you live 24/7 with other players, so Damn well better be sure that you at least like eachother a bit. I wouldn't invite anyone I didn't like. Bad atmosphere leads to bad training environment
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