EPTMap/Micro Bot Hack? - Page 13
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
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Frobert
Canada113 Posts
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BWILLdur
United States100 Posts
On April 07 2011 23:55 Sensator wrote: Yeah after a long search (by long I mean googling SC2 hacks), I found exactly what these hacks are capable of. Check out the d3scene sc2 section :S. Maybe I was naive but damn, didn't think you could hack RTS that in depth, and that quickly. | ||
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froofpim
United States11 Posts
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Cent
Canada155 Posts
Notice that since he never unselects the roaches (to select individual ones), when he gives a focus fire command, even the burrowed roaches approach that target, but remain burrowed. Also notice that when the infested marines are shooting at the burrowed roaches, doing only pinpricks of damage, it keeps the roaches from reaching 100% hp, and they never automatically unburrow for him, even though he could wipe them out. Perhaps most glaringly of all, he selects his hatchery and very very slowly taps his roach hotkey, all the while you can see that his burrow/unburrow roach script is still running, and playing the game for him. Even if he really was some gosu player who had ungodly micro, he makes relatively large mistakes that would only characterize players who play only in an a-click manner. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
obvious mh/micro hack the guy's actual skill level is similar to silver league | ||
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Raysalis
Malaysia1034 Posts
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lilky
United States131 Posts
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lowlypawn
United States241 Posts
On April 08 2011 01:26 lowlypawn wrote: Can't download replay  Could someone please upload it again? Got it to DL, sorry my cookies were disabled. Just watched it and it's pretty amazing. I think this is just the start of what we can expect. Once the hackers have it figured out then they will add delays, randomness and a 250 APM cap to make it look legit. Then it will be really hard to detect. | ||
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nyc863
200 Posts
Once the hackers have it figured out then they will add delays, randomness and a 250 APM cap to make it look legit. Then it will be really hard to detect. QFTAnyone capable of writing this current bot could trivially adjust it to add a realism slider and then the replay wouldn't show squat, it would just show a very good player in certain aspects of his macro and micro. Even a second monitor or pop-up window showing the fully exposed unit placement would be undetectable, and a smart cheater would incorporate that information into his game without making it too obvious. He'd be a battle.net hero, but never compete in tourneys. | ||
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SpaceGhost
United States61 Posts
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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eGoTricKShoT
United States46 Posts
i just wanted to address something that people are continually saying... he burrows roaches without selecting them individually, or injects larva while never selecting queens, etc etc... someone on the first page mentioned this as a writeable program based on frames... assuming this is true, the reason the replay doesnt show the selections is because of the hundreds and thousands of frames that fit into every second and minute... meaning the replay system shows no change in selection because of a possible write along the lines of '/checkframe(x) burrow all roach < 25% health' to add a more childish analogy, the same way a magician does something so fast with his hands that the eye cant follow... the written program does something so fast that the replay system cant follow, or that it does perhaps follow it but in a single frame out of hundreds of thousands, thus technically executing the action, but too quickly to show the change in selection im not saying this IS what is going on, but if it was a frame based written program this is a way of writing those kind of commands, although the ability for someone to sneak this into the SC2 registry files and past any sort of file checking performed by blizzard upon launch of the application is beyond my knowledge i did not read the entire discussion, so i do not know if this has already been said | ||
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gregnog
United States289 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:58 Alokiya wrote: What league was this in? If it was diamond/masters, it's not entirely impossible that you played someone who doesn't apm spam and is just really good at micro. Nothing in there was concrete that he was hacking, just insanely good micro really, but who knows, maybe there is some bot that auto burrows your low health roaches. Why would you even post something like this? Watch the replay. | ||
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BlazedHydra
United States67 Posts
as is though there is really nothing to deter these jerk offs and so the ladder is becoming increasingly pointless to play on. does anyone remember battlenet for Brood War???? you couldnt barely find anyone at all that didnt play with hacks on, and so noone would play on it cept noobs and hackers. to all the people posting in the defense of the hacker, watch the replay befor you post. User was banned for this post. | ||
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khOOM
United States87 Posts
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/160773-1v1-protoss-zerg-xelnaga-caverns#rd:buildorder i just watched it again, it's not the same nvm. still shady though, although maybe he was just doing mass spines into mutas | ||
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khOOM
United States87 Posts
On April 08 2011 12:21 akalarry wrote: i just played a guy who i think might have the same hack? he makes like 7 spines against my unscouted 4 gate, and his queen injects were ridiculous. he also had like 700 apm but that could be done by a macro script or whatever. too bad he still cant win the game with hacks loooool http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/160773-1v1-protoss-zerg-xelnaga-caverns#rd:buildorder LOL the guy hit 2800+ apm for a moment. | ||
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