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theBullFrog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States515 Posts
March 18 2011 21:14 GMT
#481
i love the 5-6 word response. He plays protoss. lol
thebullfrog
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 18 2011 21:15 GMT
#482
On March 19 2011 04:58 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 04:55 QuixoticO wrote:
On March 19 2011 04:49 tdt wrote:
Bunch of whiners. Statistics don't lie and protoss sux according to them.
In top 20 only two Protoss.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks
http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/kr


Meanwhile it's most race played in masters
http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all

Means they still suck.. Balance would have 8 in top 20 not 2-3.


Those rankings shouldn't say much considering you have players on there that proved to be not cut out for Code S or A like Makaprime ( sitting on the 10th spot ).

Use whatever stats you like GSL wins, tounament wins. win % etc protoss come up short.



Is this a joke? They are so far ahead of zerg in tournament wins. And in recent wins, then are ahead of terran.
Even if they are the most played race, they are far above their % in wins
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xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
March 18 2011 21:17 GMT
#483
think July actually wants this match, sadly it's difficult to ever bet on July cause he's so inconsistent ;p
Meh.
Kangg
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States128 Posts
March 18 2011 21:25 GMT
#484
There is a noticeable imbalance with protoss atm. It is very noticeable at the top level of play. The huge amount of responses that bring up him winning because he is protoss is true but he is also a good player. Overall people need to stop, there is a skill required to be at this level, but atm there are many people hovering about the same skill level, MvP, MC, Nestea, MKP. they are all very solid players. But race atm plays a huge factor.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
March 18 2011 21:33 GMT
#485
damn.... all dem pro's think MC is going to win >,> I just gotta cheer for my fellow zerg so GO JULY For the swarm!
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
March 18 2011 21:43 GMT
#486
July will win 4-2
Commentatorwww.instagram.com/RotterdaM08 for pictures of cute puppies.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 21:49:40
March 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#487
Why is djWheat up there? He's a great guy and all but his opinion on the game means less than mine does, and mine is pretty useless to begin with.
johndavis
Profile Joined December 2010
94 Posts
March 18 2011 21:56 GMT
#488
MC because Protoss is OP. On the other hand, Marines need to be buffed.

+ Show Spoiler +
I honestly think MC will win once again, he's definitely got the confidence.
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
March 18 2011 22:02 GMT
#489
july pulls a reverse bisu and 4-0s MC, revolutionizing the ZvP matchup !
stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
March 18 2011 22:02 GMT
#490
Pretty sad that alot of players are using imbalance as a reason for MC going to win....

We could get those kinds of answers from a crowd of trolls on the BNET forums.
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
March 18 2011 22:03 GMT
#491
On March 19 2011 06:15 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 04:58 tdt wrote:
On March 19 2011 04:55 QuixoticO wrote:
On March 19 2011 04:49 tdt wrote:
Bunch of whiners. Statistics don't lie and protoss sux according to them.
In top 20 only two Protoss.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks
http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/kr


Meanwhile it's most race played in masters
http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all

Means they still suck.. Balance would have 8 in top 20 not 2-3.


Those rankings shouldn't say much considering you have players on there that proved to be not cut out for Code S or A like Makaprime ( sitting on the 10th spot ).

Use whatever stats you like GSL wins, tounament wins. win % etc protoss come up short.



Is this a joke? They are so far ahead of zerg in tournament wins. And in recent wins, then are ahead of terran.
Even if they are the most played race, they are far above their % in wins


Unless you can provide the links which show the statistics which you're claiming to have knowledge of, your opinion is not valid, and said with undue confidence.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
March 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#492
as good as MC is i've never seen a "How the hell did he do that?" moment from him. on the other hand, seems like most july games have this element.

I'm really hoping july can entertain us with his style, wether he wins or not, I just don't want it to be the a boring Forcefield,/colossus/stalkers pvz steamroll.

but then again, july might opt for going 6 pool every game or something boring like that as well.
HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 22:28:54
March 18 2011 22:26 GMT
#493
On March 19 2011 05:32 Arisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 05:15 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
On March 19 2011 05:03 dunc wrote:
On March 19 2011 04:58 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Have no idea why AriseN flammes that much. Weird. Each time a foreigner is criticize for their comments, he comes in and defend them for the life of his. Are you even a TT1 fan? Seriously?

Is July the best Zerg out there? Not yet. Even if he wins against MC, he`s not the best in my book still. IMLosirA, IMNeastea and Dongrae are better in my mind. Is July a better Zerg than IdrA, in terms of achievement in Korea, yeah. Is July a better player than TT1? I wouldn't understand how can one argue against that. TT1 is still an amateur. He got talent, but still an amateur. I``m not saying he has no chance of becoming Pro,mostly if the north American scene expands, but the guy has to check himself before he wreck himself.

When i was 16, i`d use such qualifiers when i wanted to emit an opinion, problem is that he`s not 16. No one with an once of professionalism would say that July sucks. There`s no respect amongst the self called pros, that`s not cool at all.


This pretty much sums it up.

Hope we can stop the arguing now. I wish we had Pro Picks from Korea like last time so people would see the huge attitude difference, it's so much better when people recognize skill and give credit where credit's due.


And again, you can see the difference in between the Korean PROS who act professionally and construct interesting opinions on the match instead of insipid and uninspired one liners about the said player. I`d like to have TT1 tell that to July`s face. Because, at least in Boxing, they do just that.They don`t hide behind their internet stature. But you know what, he wouldn't have the guts to say that, he'd change his whole stance if he' be in front of him.

Again i don't want to sound like him hating on the guy, because i'm always glad when a fellow Canadian do well in the SC world, but i can't agree with his attitude. You got to keep things real.

Yeah Koreans would never say something like that, unless I'm forgetting something...

Oh yeah, mc said his first round in tsl wasn't a good player!


MC is like i said, entitled to his cockiness, and i doubt he had knowledge of who Ciarra is, he probably got the information from someone else. That's why i refrain from bashing Idra. Also, because, more often than not, IdrA is wrong on players credential.

The main components of my tirade stands still, when you are not a World beater, you keep it on the low and you show that you are the better men with results. Saying otherwise does not promote sportsmanship, and if you want to duke it out, tell the guy in his face, if not, don't act like a bitch hiding behind your computer.

I don't want a scene where everything is serious to the point of being character less, but it's hard to take one seriously when one's making such harsh statements about a GSL finalist. It's also funny that people shits on Rain, because, he might not be the best of the best, but he's back to Code S, something that quite alot of the guys you revere wouldn't be able to achieve.

Like the guys on SoTG saying that NaDa and July matches were horrible,next thing you know, the writers on TL rated it as 4.5 out of 5. There's artificial standards set by people in the community. You can take Tyler for example, he doesn't like how July plays, and that's alright, but I've never heard him say that July just plainly sucks.

Basically, I'm not here to defend July just because he's July or whatever, and I'm not against the critics to his play style, but I'm against that artificial standard created by a few. I'm also against players detrimental to others just because of stylistical differences.

And my dude, if you don't like that, it's of no consequence to me.

Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
Jager
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom140 Posts
March 18 2011 22:37 GMT
#494
On March 19 2011 05:32 Aerakin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 05:22 Jager wrote:
I don't see how idra can get away with calling people bad. People can get better at SC2, he will always be an ugly skinny geek.



Sure, Idra can't insult people based on their game, but you can insult people based on their looks? Right.



He can and does? Just don't be surprised when someone insults him in one way or another.
Kazang
Profile Joined August 2010
578 Posts
March 18 2011 22:50 GMT
#495
MC will completely outplay July and easily win, and despite the fact the players and not the races are the reason for the result people will use it as "evidence" for imbalance.

Sad.
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 22:52:12
March 18 2011 22:51 GMT
#496
On March 18 2011 14:07 Cyanocyst wrote:
Yeah this mentality is starting to get really annoying. Idra dismisses July cause hes an aggressive Zerg, which he finds to be gimmicky. However the new GSL maps make it very easy for Terran / Toss to get enough resources to support a nearly unkillable army. If you play a defensive style. So Zergs only option is to be aggressive, making good trades preventing the ultimate composition.

Not saying July is playing optimally, in fact i think he'll loose to MC. However i feel once Zergs learn to play aggressive but in a more refined way, than July is playing right now. It will be seen as the right way to play Zerg.

Really, why should the Zerg late game army be able to stand and fight with Terran or Toss late game army? Characteristically it shouldn't be able to.


Agreed. Just look at the PvZ match up in Brood War as proof. Zerg was absolutely dominating Protoss so hard it wasn't even fun to watch. Then Bisu came..
I have a beard. I'm unprofessional.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 18 2011 22:55 GMT
#497
On March 19 2011 07:03 HuHEN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 06:15 1Eris1 wrote:
On March 19 2011 04:58 tdt wrote:
On March 19 2011 04:55 QuixoticO wrote:
On March 19 2011 04:49 tdt wrote:
Bunch of whiners. Statistics don't lie and protoss sux according to them.
In top 20 only two Protoss.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks
http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/kr


Meanwhile it's most race played in masters
http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all

Means they still suck.. Balance would have 8 in top 20 not 2-3.


Those rankings shouldn't say much considering you have players on there that proved to be not cut out for Code S or A like Makaprime ( sitting on the 10th spot ).

Use whatever stats you like GSL wins, tounament wins. win % etc protoss come up short.



Is this a joke? They are so far ahead of zerg in tournament wins. And in recent wins, then are ahead of terran.
Even if they are the most played race, they are far above their % in wins


Unless you can provide the links which show the statistics which you're claiming to have knowledge of, your opinion is not valid, and said with undue confidence.



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197521
Sure thing. Im suprised you missed this thread, it was on the front page for a while. It's just a recent summary of tournaments.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 18 2011 22:57 GMT
#498
LOL IdrA
mc julys bad mcs protoss
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 18 2011 23:05 GMT
#499
Diamond, thanks for the post, i love predictions

cheers
I am not good with quotes
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
March 18 2011 23:20 GMT
#500
On March 19 2011 07:26 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 05:32 Arisen wrote:
On March 19 2011 05:15 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
On March 19 2011 05:03 dunc wrote:
On March 19 2011 04:58 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Have no idea why AriseN flammes that much. Weird. Each time a foreigner is criticize for their comments, he comes in and defend them for the life of his. Are you even a TT1 fan? Seriously?

Is July the best Zerg out there? Not yet. Even if he wins against MC, he`s not the best in my book still. IMLosirA, IMNeastea and Dongrae are better in my mind. Is July a better Zerg than IdrA, in terms of achievement in Korea, yeah. Is July a better player than TT1? I wouldn't understand how can one argue against that. TT1 is still an amateur. He got talent, but still an amateur. I``m not saying he has no chance of becoming Pro,mostly if the north American scene expands, but the guy has to check himself before he wreck himself.

When i was 16, i`d use such qualifiers when i wanted to emit an opinion, problem is that he`s not 16. No one with an once of professionalism would say that July sucks. There`s no respect amongst the self called pros, that`s not cool at all.


This pretty much sums it up.

Hope we can stop the arguing now. I wish we had Pro Picks from Korea like last time so people would see the huge attitude difference, it's so much better when people recognize skill and give credit where credit's due.


And again, you can see the difference in between the Korean PROS who act professionally and construct interesting opinions on the match instead of insipid and uninspired one liners about the said player. I`d like to have TT1 tell that to July`s face. Because, at least in Boxing, they do just that.They don`t hide behind their internet stature. But you know what, he wouldn't have the guts to say that, he'd change his whole stance if he' be in front of him.

Again i don't want to sound like him hating on the guy, because i'm always glad when a fellow Canadian do well in the SC world, but i can't agree with his attitude. You got to keep things real.

Yeah Koreans would never say something like that, unless I'm forgetting something...

Oh yeah, mc said his first round in tsl wasn't a good player!


MC is like i said, entitled to his cockiness, and i doubt he had knowledge of who Ciarra is, he probably got the information from someone else. That's why i refrain from bashing Idra. Also, because, more often than not, IdrA is wrong on players credential.

The main components of my tirade stands still, when you are not a World beater, you keep it on the low and you show that you are the better men with results. Saying otherwise does not promote sportsmanship, and if you want to duke it out, tell the guy in his face, if not, don't act like a bitch hiding behind your computer.

I don't want a scene where everything is serious to the point of being character less, but it's hard to take one seriously when one's making such harsh statements about a GSL finalist. It's also funny that people shits on Rain, because, he might not be the best of the best, but he's back to Code S, something that quite alot of the guys you revere wouldn't be able to achieve.

Like the guys on SoTG saying that NaDa and July matches were horrible,next thing you know, the writers on TL rated it as 4.5 out of 5. There's artificial standards set by people in the community. You can take Tyler for example, he doesn't like how July plays, and that's alright, but I've never heard him say that July just plainly sucks.

Basically, I'm not here to defend July just because he's July or whatever, and I'm not against the critics to his play style, but I'm against that artificial standard created by a few. I'm also against players detrimental to others just because of stylistical differences.

And my dude, if you don't like that, it's of no consequence to me.




People shit on rain because hes not fancy or special, he just plays well. He doesnt stand out in any way besides being a solid player. He doesn't mass marines or have perfect control or play sc2 as a gorilla foreigner like other S class terrans do.

Nada vs July matches were terrible. I dont understand how players of that caliber cant scout baneling busts, it makes me sad. Nada is much better than that. I am excited that july got as far as he did, but him vs MC isnt going to be close.
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