my post was supposed to be on artosis' fan club
Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski Theme Song - Page 11
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
my post was supposed to be on artosis' fan club | ||
Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
EDIT: Nevermind, found it :D | ||
OTL
313 Posts
On March 20 2011 20:59 PraetorianX wrote: Stemkoski, is that a Jewish name? I bet Artosis is Ashkenazi. They are super intelligent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_intelligence Polish. Generally speaking if it ends in -ski it's Polish and if it ends in -sky it's Jewish. Exceptions abound of course. And obviously there are and have been many Jewish Poles. | ||
Chicane
United States7875 Posts
Also, I don't know why you put an inside joke in it when (from my understanding) Artosis doesn't even know it. In short... sing more about Artosis in an Artosis theme song. All that being said, it was catchy and I still enjoyed it. | ||
ABOOMAN
Burma156 Posts
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kbx4ever
United States4 Posts
On March 25 2011 12:43 Chicane wrote: I enjoy the song and I am not trying to be overly critical... but I think you should have talked more about Artosis if the song is his theme. Even if they are exact quotes from what he said in the GSL, the part "We all love MKP" to "The Up and Down's too much for me to take" felt so out of place and unnecessary. Talking about Artosis himself rather than a bunch of players and recent GSL events would have been better in my opinion. I personally didn't mind some of it like the first time (though it still felt out of place as you just kind of went off talking about other players) but later on it just didn't feel like a song about Artosis (once again... even if you were quoting him). Also, I don't know why you put an inside joke in it when (from my understanding) Artosis doesn't even know it. In short... sing more about Artosis in an Artosis theme song. All that being said, it was catchy and I still enjoyed it. It's fine. It becomes increasingly hard to create a 3min song for one person. And besides, the GSL references make the song a lot more entertaining. | ||
HEROwithNOlegacy
United States850 Posts
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kenashcorp
United States75 Posts
On March 25 2011 12:43 Chicane wrote: I enjoy the song and I am not trying to be overly critical... but I think you should have talked more about Artosis if the song is his theme. Even if they are exact quotes from what he said in the GSL, the part "We all love MKP" to "The Up and Down's too much for me to take" felt so out of place and unnecessary. Talking about Artosis himself rather than a bunch of players and recent GSL events would have been better in my opinion. I personally didn't mind some of it like the first time (though it still felt out of place as you just kind of went off talking about other players) but later on it just didn't feel like a song about Artosis (once again... even if you were quoting him). Also, I don't know why you put an inside joke in it when (from my understanding) Artosis doesn't even know it. In short... sing more about Artosis in an Artosis theme song. All that being said, it was catchy and I still enjoyed it. I wrote two songs for Artosis. People also wrote songs about "Moss on the tree" and other "Artosis is ill" related songs. There are at least 5 songs for Artosis on Youtube including my two. Please don't criticize me for not including things that people have already sung about. I understand that it's not all about Artosis. Tasteless was also not all about Tasteless. Other than that, I'm glad that you liked the theme. Sorry that two songs wasn't enough. | ||
Magrath
Canada292 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On March 26 2011 03:31 kenashcorp wrote: I wrote two songs for Artosis. People also wrote songs about "Moss on the tree" and other "Artosis is ill" related songs. There are at least 5 songs for Artosis on Youtube including my two. Please don't criticize me for not including things that people have already sung about. I understand that it's not all about Artosis. Tasteless was also not all about Tasteless. Other than that, I'm glad that you liked the theme. Sorry that two songs wasn't enough. I am referring to the Artosis Theme song, not other songs. I don't think you should remove lines that would otherwise be perfect for an Artosis Theme song just because other people have mentioned it in some other song, especially if they would have worded it differently. I am obviously not suggesting that you copy lyrics so don't try to spin it that way. In fact nothing in your song was the first time it was mentioned otherwise that wouldn't make sense that you are mentioning it (other than the Canadian part). I'm not sure why you are completely fine with singing about stuff that has been mentioned many times (on places like Reddit and TL)... but once someone mentions it in the form of a song it is automatically off limits (this of course is ignoring the very real possibility of mentioning many other things about him... possibly him trying to get into the NASL... getting Code A casters to replace him so he can play more... casting with Kelly which includes many things like the missed high five... which also brings up the missed high five with IdrA and a more specific reference to his imbalanced show... etc). Again... my main point is this is the Artosis Theme song, so I feel that Artosis should have been the focus. That's my opinion and you can go ahead and disregard it since you are the one writing the songs and I am just giving feedback... but if anything I think a separate song for season 5 of the GSL would have been a better idea so you could get all that stuff out of the way and make the song more about Artosis. I think some of the player references were fine especially if they are quotes from Artosis, but I just felt that at some point in the song that if it weren't for the chorus, I would just feel that it is a GSL season 5 song... which is completely fine if the song weren't intended to be an Artosis Theme. Am I not making valid points? This is constructive criticism with valid points... so don't get to frustrated with it. Clearly your tone was not polite at the end when you bolded the "Sorry that two songs wasn't enough" part. I am not saying you are doing a poor job or that I personally think the song was a waste or anything like that... it is just feedback which may be beneficial. Read and consider it with an open mind for future songs and it may help, even if you end up disagreeing. Also... you said that the Tasteless song wasn't all about Tasteless either... On March 26 2011 03:31 kenashcorp wrote: Tasteless was also not all about Tasteless. PLEASE quote ONE line from that song that is not talking about him. | ||
Replice
Norway93 Posts
PLEASE quote ONE line from that song that is not talking about him. But there's just one thing I'll never forget There's just SO MANY BANELINGS There's two for you. | ||
Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On March 26 2011 08:06 Replice wrote: But there's just one thing I'll never forget There's just SO MANY BANELINGS There's two for you. He is saying that he won't forget how Tastosis says "SO MANY BANELINGS!!!" It is a memorable and very commonly repeated line from them and worth mentioning in Tasteless' song. It's more than just a quote... it's something they are associated with. Regardless I will give that one to you even though I disagree... any other ones? I didn't see any. | ||
kenashcorp
United States75 Posts
On March 26 2011 07:13 Chicane wrote: I am referring to the Artosis Theme song, not other songs. I don't think you should remove lines that would otherwise be perfect for an Artosis Theme song just because other people have mentioned it in some other song, especially if they would have worded it differently. I am obviously not suggesting that you copy lyrics so don't try to spin it that way. In fact nothing in your song was the first time it was mentioned otherwise that wouldn't make sense that you are mentioning it (other than the Canadian part). I'm not sure why you are completely fine with singing about stuff that has been mentioned many times (on places like Reddit and TL)... but once someone mentions it in the form of a song it is automatically off limits (this of course is ignoring the very real possibility of mentioning many other things about him... possibly him trying to get into the NASL... getting Code A casters to replace him so he can play more... casting with Kelly which includes many things like the missed high five... which also brings up the missed high five with IdrA and a more specific reference to his imbalanced show... etc). Again... my main point is this is the Artosis Theme song, so I feel that Artosis should have been the focus. That's my opinion and you can go ahead and disregard it since you are the one writing the songs and I am just giving feedback... but if anything I think a separate song for season 5 of the GSL would have been a better idea so you could get all that stuff out of the way and make the song more about Artosis. I think some of the player references were fine especially if they are quotes from Artosis, but I just felt that at some point in the song that if it weren't for the chorus, I would just feel that it is a GSL season 5 song... which is completely fine if the song weren't intended to be an Artosis Theme. Am I not making valid points? This is constructive criticism with valid points... so don't get to frustrated with it. Clearly your tone was not polite at the end when you bolded the "Sorry that two songs wasn't enough" part. I am not saying you are doing a poor job or that I personally think the song was a waste or anything like that... it is just feedback which may be beneficial. Read and consider it with an open mind for future songs and it may help, even if you end up disagreeing. Also... you said that the Tasteless song wasn't all about Tasteless either... PLEASE quote ONE line from that song that is not talking about him. You're essentially telling me to rewrite the song because it wasn't all about Artosis. I agree that a lot of it was based off of current events, but I wasn't going to stick Idra's High 5, Kelly, Code A, Imbalanced, etc, because it's already been done. Mainly by me. In its own song. That's my justification for that stuff not being in there and there not being a lot else to lyrically fit into the song. I'm all for conscrit, but you're essentially just telling me that I should have made the same song twice. | ||
Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On March 26 2011 10:18 kenashcorp wrote: You're essentially telling me to rewrite the song because it wasn't all about Artosis. I agree that a lot of it was based off of current events, but I wasn't going to stick Idra's High 5, Kelly, Code A, Imbalanced, etc, because it's already been done. Mainly by me. In its own song. That's my justification for that stuff not being in there and there not being a lot else to lyrically fit into the song. I'm all for conscrit, but you're essentially just telling me that I should have made the same song twice. Nice assumption. I clearly said that this feedback may help you in future songs whether or not you agree with it. Quote me where I told you to rewrite the song? No where. If anything you are feeling that maybe some of my points are valid and it could have been better... so you are assuming I am telling you to redo it. Uh oh!! Time to get defensive about that! I said your song isn't perfect even though I said I liked it! You are way too defensive. I can understand disagreeing with me... but that doesn't mean you have to put words in my mouth. You clearly aren't "all for conscrit" since you can't take it well. | ||
EvasivE
United States70 Posts
On March 26 2011 10:44 Chicane wrote: Nice assumption. I clearly said that this feedback may help you in future songs whether or not you agree with it. Quote me where I told you to rewrite the song? No where. If anything you are feeling that maybe some of my points are valid and it could have been better... so you are assuming I am telling you to redo it. Uh oh!! Time to get defensive about that! I said your song isn't perfect even though I said I liked it! You are way too defensive. I can understand disagreeing with me... but that doesn't mean you have to put words in my mouth. You clearly aren't "all for conscrit" since you can't take it well. i dont even have to read the extreme amounts of text there is here to know you're being a jackass. pls go find something else to do :/ songs baller as fuck, bought it on itunes, thx yo :D | ||
shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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kenashcorp
United States75 Posts
On March 26 2011 10:44 Chicane wrote: Nice assumption. I clearly said that this feedback may help you in future songs whether or not you agree with it. Quote me where I told you to rewrite the song? No where. If anything you are feeling that maybe some of my points are valid and it could have been better... so you are assuming I am telling you to redo it. Uh oh!! Time to get defensive about that! I said your song isn't perfect even though I said I liked it! You are way too defensive. I can understand disagreeing with me... but that doesn't mean you have to put words in my mouth. You clearly aren't "all for conscrit" since you can't take it well. I'm giving you a valid reason why more of what you suggested wasn't in there. I don't really know what else I can do, but I'm not going to make another theme song for Artosis. You make it sound like that's the only option, not some advice for the future of my songwriting. Once again, I'm all for constructive criticism, but writing two songs about the same guy, including a myriad of references in both and getting called out because it's "not enough" just makes me feel like the job I've done is slightly inadequate. Like I said; There are two songs for Artosis. If you're not happy with the slew of references in both, then you're just not going to be happy of my style of not going for the obvious references all the time. It's one of the main reasons that the word "Grack" doesn't appear in either of Artosis's songs. It's been done to death. If your idea of making my song better was putting in "So many banelings" again and again for a bridge or a soft refrain then you're probably not going to be happy with anything I make in the future either. | ||
Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On March 26 2011 23:42 kenashcorp wrote: I'm giving you a valid reason why more of what you suggested wasn't in there. I don't really know what else I can do, but I'm not going to make another theme song for Artosis. You make it sound like that's the only option, not some advice for the future of my songwriting. Once again, I'm all for constructive criticism, but writing two songs about the same guy, including a myriad of references in both and getting called out because it's "not enough" just makes me feel like the job I've done is slightly inadequate. Like I said; There are two songs for Artosis. If you're not happy with the slew of references in both, then you're just not going to be happy of my style of not going for the obvious references all the time. It's one of the main reasons that the word "Grack" doesn't appear in either of Artosis's songs. It's been done to death. If your idea of making my song better was putting in "So many banelings" again and again for a bridge or a soft refrain then you're probably not going to be happy with anything I make in the future either. I really can't believe you are missing the point so much, but clearly you are not as open to feedback as you might think you are so I won't bother. I hope you have a lot of success thinking that everything you do is perfect and that changing it up in future songs would not be beneficial. I don't really know what else I can do, but I'm not going to make another theme song for Artosis. You make it sound like that's the only option, not some advice for the future of my songwriting. Well then you need to work on reading comprehension. I couldn't make it much more direct than saying it may help you in writing future songs. I wasn't even saying my opinion was correct, but that my view point may still help if you consider it rather than shrug it off as if I'm some asshole saying your song is terrible. I don't get why you don't understand that... and I know you still don't because I am just saying the same thing that I said before... I can't really get more direct than that. If your idea of making my song better was putting in "So many banelings" again and again for a bridge or a soft refrain then you're probably not going to be happy with anything I make in the future either. What? Where is this even coming from... wow. Seriously... where is this coming from? You think I am actually saying that you should keep saying "So many banelings" in the song? You make such terrible assumptions over and over, but of course everyone will defend you here because the fact is you did make a good song. Just use your head and think about what I am actually saying. You are so far off every time. Also, I am not talking about the other song whatsoever so I don't care about the references in the other one. Once again, I'm all for constructive criticism, but writing two songs about the same guy, including a myriad of references in both and getting called out because it's "not enough" just makes me feel like the job I've done is slightly inadequate. This pretty much sums up why everything is going straight to your head. You claim that you are all for constructive criticism so you are basically saying to yourself "yeah... I'm pretty reasonable" and then when I make a comment you just feel like it's an attack since you already claimed that you are open to criticism yet you disagree with what I have said on too much of an emotional level. Disagree all you want with me... and I am sure you will also disagree with this next statement... but you are terrible at taking constructive criticism. You can convince yourself that when someone says something like "I like this song but the Tasteless one was better" and you are fine with that, that you are automatically good at taking constructive criticism, but you are not. I did not attack you personally and I did not flame your song (in fact I said I liked it)... I simply mentioned ways that I felt could have improved it... because learning of people's opinions of your songs can help you improve in the future (please don't make me explain that again... hopefully that sentence alone makes sense). | ||
TheSaddestPanda
United States61 Posts
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Dr. Von Derful
United States363 Posts
On March 27 2011 03:17 TheSaddestPanda wrote: .... way to ruin a good thread about a nice thing with a silly arguement. Agreed. It's a shame that because someone didn't understand the references had to start making demands instead offering actual suggestions to fix it. Apparently, abstract (and subjective) demands without offering any substance or concrete direction combined with negative tone equates to constructive criticism. It's a well written song about Artosis' recent time casting the GSL | ||
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