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On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help.
I'm glad someone came out with something like this, because I have a few people ( names asking not to be revealed. ) that say he admitted to hacking as well.
So at least there's something else to add to my confirmation even though i'm already 100% convinced :D
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I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread yet but there's a lot of hack out there, and you don't need map hack to see what your opponent is doing. There's actually a hack that let you have a production tab, in real time, in a game etc.
I remember a post on Reddit about a guy that was streaming while hacking. Here's the vod: http://www.justin.tv/rolle3k/b/280386401 (you can see the production tab while he's playing his 1v1 ladder match.)
EDIT: Nevermind I hadn't read the "conclusions" in the first post. It's still interesting to see the vod of the hacker in first person though.
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Camera lock
This feature locks the camera x/y coordinates and current selected in position for replay viewing so you can take a look at your enemy without worry. Also, all future selections while on are client sided and not saved into the replay. Automatically turns off when you try using any of your units in case you accidentally leave it on.
Unit alert
Alerts you when certain units types are built, at the moment I have just kept it basic because the Observer panel is far more superior. Currently it will only alert on Dark Shrine, Dark Templars and Banshees so you can be alerted instantly and worry about detecting these cloaked units.
Two pretty good reasons more high level hackers aren't noticed. Maybe the first one will be obvious in replays (ie his screen not moving and no commands issued for several seconds).
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On March 12 2011 15:58 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help. I'm glad someone came out with something like this, because I have a few people ( names asking not to be revealed. ) that say he admitted to hacking as well. So at least there's something else to add to my confirmation even though i'm already 100% convinced :D
Which would be great, had I not JUST spoken to StellarMango on Bnet (since I have him on my list) and asked him:
You: and apparently you claim
igware has admitted hacking to you?
I find that kind of doubtful O_o
Jason Mango (StellarMango): hasnt admitted
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On March 12 2011 15:58 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help. I'm glad someone came out with something like this, because I have a few people ( names asking not to be revealed. ) that say he admitted to hacking as well. So at least there's something else to add to my confirmation even though i'm already 100% convinced :D
I've also talked to afew people in that channel who said the same exact thing.. but like you, not going to name names.
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On March 12 2011 15:57 PinkPrincess wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 15:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 12 2011 15:51 PinkPrincess wrote:On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help. You: how much do you play with stellarmango lol he claims you hack Him: i never played with him before LOL i shit talked him though I've watched them play games together before -.-' He plays on my laptop lol. So iGware just shit talks people he's never met? That makes sense. We can add lying to cheating and hacking, I guess. It's a pity that people like this have to play on our servers. Anyways, I hope this gets resolved. To whoever asked to put up: the mods can absolutely ban me if they want if there is definitive proof found of him hacking (I don't just mean a panel of random respected people deciding that he hacks)
Well let's agree that if the iGware account gets removed/reset/frozen/deleted or whatever blizzard does from the ladder then we can assume that means it was banned as a result of cheating. :D yey this thread is interesting again. I hope a mod follows through with this.
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random question: does anyone know if clan hack has a website? I really want to watch some of their replays.
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On March 12 2011 16:08 aztecx wrote:
random question: does anyone know if clan hack has a website? I really want to watch some of their replays.
Yeah, 'replays'. Sure.
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On March 12 2011 16:01 PinkPrincess wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 15:58 ProTech wrote:On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help. I'm glad someone came out with something like this, because I have a few people ( names asking not to be revealed. ) that say he admitted to hacking as well. So at least there's something else to add to my confirmation even though i'm already 100% convinced :D Which would be great, had I not JUST spoken to StellarMango on Bnet (since I have him on my list) and asked him: You: and apparently you claim igware has admitted hacking to you? I find that kind of doubtful O_o Jason Mango (StellarMango): hasnt admitted
Why would jason mango want to ruin his reputation on starcraft. Your case makes absolutely zero sense pete.
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On March 12 2011 16:08 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 16:08 aztecx wrote:
random question: does anyone know if clan hack has a website? I really want to watch some of their replays. Yeah, 'replays'. Sure.
Is my question not straightforward enough for you?
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On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help.
After looking through the replays, it does look extremely suspicious. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a production tab hack.
That being said after checking his profile on SC2ranks it doesn't show that he has played any games with Stellarmango so I'm imagining this statement to be false. Here's his profile http://sc2ranks.com/us/758609/iGware
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PinkPrincess, you keep posting in defense of your friend. If he was really innocent he probably would have spoken by now and defended himself.
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On March 12 2011 16:09 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 16:01 PinkPrincess wrote:On March 12 2011 15:58 ProTech wrote:On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help. I'm glad someone came out with something like this, because I have a few people ( names asking not to be revealed. ) that say he admitted to hacking as well. So at least there's something else to add to my confirmation even though i'm already 100% convinced :D Which would be great, had I not JUST spoken to StellarMango on Bnet (since I have him on my list) and asked him: You: and apparently you claim igware has admitted hacking to you? I find that kind of doubtful O_o Jason Mango (StellarMango): hasnt admitted Why would jason mango want to ruin his reputation on starcraft. You case makes absolutely zero sense pete.
My little brother doesn't really care that other people do stupid things. He knows people who have done those win-trades just to farm portraits, and we knew people who hacked in SC1 and it's inevitably going to happen in SC2. He plays with that i-Clan (whatever you want to call them) quite often (and I've played with them as well) because they're good players, and apparently that one kid hacks.
Judging by the replays, I think iGware hacks. He's also been caught cheating in the past. He's also apparently told people in passing that he hacks. That's what it comes down to, so feel free to take that with a grain of salt.
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I wouldn't worry about PinkPrincess. He's been the same for YEARS, defending people who cheat.
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On March 12 2011 16:15 fire_brand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help. After looking through the replays, it does look extremely suspicious. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a production tab hack. That being said after checking his profile on SC2ranks it doesn't show that he has played any games with Stellarmango so I'm imagining this statement to be false. Here's his profile http://sc2ranks.com/us/758609/iGware
They tend to do 4v4 random games, with a friend and a random ally. Apparently, it's easier to get to masters league in 4v4 via random teams than allied teams, so that's appealing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that will actually show on that site.
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On March 12 2011 16:01 PinkPrincess wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 15:58 ProTech wrote:On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help. I'm glad someone came out with something like this, because I have a few people ( names asking not to be revealed. ) that say he admitted to hacking as well. So at least there's something else to add to my confirmation even though i'm already 100% convinced :D Which would be great, had I not JUST spoken to StellarMango on Bnet (since I have him on my list) and asked him: You: and apparently you claim igware has admitted hacking to you? I find that kind of doubtful O_o Jason Mango (StellarMango): hasnt admitted
Do you also realize how easy it is to just make that up?
Michael Ballman (haCkProTech): Hey I hack.
You: No shit!
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Generally when something is too good to be true, it usually is. The same logic works in this case as well. If there is nothing to be suspicious about, no one will accuse him of hacking. But if there is any reason for concern and there is a semi-decent amount of proof it is more than likely to be the case that he does in fact hack. Often in situations like this evidence is inconclusive which means people have to do their best to interpret what little they have.
It's not as if his teammate would ever admit to him hacking either because that would basically be incriminating himself. If it ever does come out that iGware is actually a hacker, his teammate should be at just much fault as him. There is no way a high masters player after 300+ games would not realise that their teammate was using some sort of hacks.
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Report to Blizz and let them decide. Depending on the type of hack they either get a warning or a direct ban.
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On March 12 2011 16:26 genopath wrote:
Report to Blizz and let them decide. Depending on the type of hack they either get a warning or a direct ban.
The problem is, is that the hacks are UNDETECTED.
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On March 12 2011 16:24 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 16:01 PinkPrincess wrote:On March 12 2011 15:58 ProTech wrote:On March 12 2011 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My little brother (StellarMango on SC2) plays with iGware a decent amount, and I asked him if he knew anything about iGware hacking, and he pretty much just shrugged and said, "Yeah, iGware admits that he does."
After taking a look at those replays, it pretty much confirms it. And the fact that he's cheated in the past certainly doesn't help. I'm glad someone came out with something like this, because I have a few people ( names asking not to be revealed. ) that say he admitted to hacking as well. So at least there's something else to add to my confirmation even though i'm already 100% convinced :D Which would be great, had I not JUST spoken to StellarMango on Bnet (since I have him on my list) and asked him: You: and apparently you claim igware has admitted hacking to you? I find that kind of doubtful O_o Jason Mango (StellarMango): hasnt admitted Do you also realize how easy it is to just make that up? Michael Ballman (haCkProTech): Hey I hack. You: No shit!
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Who have I ever defended who was caught hacking in the past? Can you name anyone from our BW past that I defended about hacking and who was caught? I never defended your hacking friend Arabia or anyone like that... I notice there's a "Protech" on that hacking website by the way  (the one that starts with "d").
You can find StellarMango on bnet or something if you want, or I could take a screenshot of the conversation I had with him...
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