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It saddens me I can't watch sc2 without entertaining casters, I think both kelly and doa do a great job but they don't have that little spark of entusiasm that makes you thrilled, nor the game knowledge that makes you go "aha!".
I watched leenock vs. losira because I like the players and their styles, but I turned off the stream after that because I needed a break from their voices :p I think at least I'm truly spoiled with tastosis.
anyway I think losira got the finals easy, he looks ridiculously strong
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Kelly seems bored and uninterested a lot lately. Not helping him really.
But yes, he seems very "clean", so they should either get someone more knowledgeable for him, or someone more enthusiastic.
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I think he has a good voice to listen too. 
Iam Happy Kelly gets aa second caster so the Casting Archon (Tasteless&Artosis) can cast together again. <3
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never heard of him before but i like him so far in gsl  (i cant expect a nonamer to step in and drop same level of knowledge as artosis etc)
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dunno about the new casters - they're "ok", nothing bad to say.. but tastosis, the casting archon, is just pure entertainment.
Besides Day[9] there is no one, who is so much "into" the game, enjoying it and really showing how enthusiastic they are about the game, but this is only my personal opinion.
Also I can't understand the argumentation that Tasteless and Artosis also need days off. I don't know if they have a job down there besides casting for GomTV, but seriously if they "only" cast Code S AND Code A, it's not that hard compared to other jobs, in which you gotta work 40h/week. But yea like I said, no idea if they have anything else to do besides casting or even another job. That would actually be something I would love to see - a video about Artosis and/or Tasteless life in Korea, maybe also some behind-the-scene videos of a GSL-Gameday.
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When you are not someone like Artosis--who has great grasp of the game and a lot of Pro-gaming experience, i think you should not be condescending to the people playing.
Maybe it is just me, I've never had a problem with Kelly (or Doa for that matter), but when she said "jeeze! just make obsevers, they are so cheap!" (paraphrasing ofc), when Alicia built 5 observers that game, 3 of which were made when the Support bay was done delaying his Colossus quite a bit, it kind of irked me...
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Yeah, Gom needs casters with much more game knowledge than that. The casting has absolutely nothing to add to the game.
Give me one reason to not mute the stream.
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On March 09 2011 19:23 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 19:16 ondik wrote: is it just me or Kelly's not "cooperating" with him, or at least much less than with artosis/tasteless?
otherwise I like him and looking forward to hearing him cast with someone else. You can't build up synergy overnight. I mean, Tastosis have been real life friends for ever and commentated some other stuff like WCG 2009 together.
I meant kelly+tasteless or kelly+artosis, not artosis+tasteless.
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Also I can't understand the argumentation that Tasteless and Artosis also need days off. I don't know if they have a job down there besides casting for GomTV, but seriously if they "only" cast Code S AND Code A, it's not that hard compared to other jobs, in which you gotta work 40h/week.
It requires their 100% attention all the time, no "normal" 40h/week job requires that. Also it stresses your vocal cords a lot, and they were sick a lot because of it. So I perfectly understand their concern about this.
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On March 09 2011 20:19 Myrtroll wrote:Show nested quote +Also I can't understand the argumentation that Tasteless and Artosis also need days off. I don't know if they have a job down there besides casting for GomTV, but seriously if they "only" cast Code S AND Code A, it's not that hard compared to other jobs, in which you gotta work 40h/week. It requires their 100% attention all the time, no "normal" 40h/week job requires that. Also it stresses your vocal cords a lot, and they were sick a lot because of it. So I perfectly understand their concern about this. sorry, but they have breaks between games...
it's not that hard imo to cast for 4 hours a day (but most of the time they didn't cast for so long in the past).
it maybe is boring to cast for so long every day but normal jobs aren't always interesting to do either, you still got to do them if you want to keep your job.
also I highly doubt that they got sick cos' of speaking/sometimes yelling while casting... cmon... then every singer in a band would be sick after the first few dates on a tour. they got sick cos' of not taking care of themselves properly.
tastosis at their worst > better than any other casters
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On March 09 2011 20:56 greenlander wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 20:19 Myrtroll wrote:Also I can't understand the argumentation that Tasteless and Artosis also need days off. I don't know if they have a job down there besides casting for GomTV, but seriously if they "only" cast Code S AND Code A, it's not that hard compared to other jobs, in which you gotta work 40h/week. It requires their 100% attention all the time, no "normal" 40h/week job requires that. Also it stresses your vocal cords a lot, and they were sick a lot because of it. So I perfectly understand their concern about this. sorry, but they have breaks between games... it's not that hard imo to cast for 4 hours a day (but most of the time they didn't cast for so long in the past). it maybe is boring to cast for so long every day but normal jobs aren't always interesting to do either, you still got to do them if you want to keep your job. also I highly doubt that they got sick cos' of speaking/sometimes yelling while casting... cmon... then every singer in a band would be sick after the first few dates on a tour. they got sick cos' of not taking care of themselves properly. tastosis at their worst > better than any other casters
They cast for several hours and i'm pretty sure that preparations before and after each cast takes a while. Artosis even said that he didn't get home until really late most of the time.
People really need to give other casters a chance. You can't expect D9/Tastosis to comment every single competitive match out there cause they will either burn out and quit or loose the "spark".
Edit: I also believe that if Doa works on his "youtubeish" commentary style and lets loose a bit we will have a awesome code A caster. My dream would be Doa + Torch, but it'll probably never happen.
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The games I've seen from Doa have all been good, I'm sure that once he gets a few more hours in the Gom chair he'll be a great caster.
It's unfair to expect Kelly and Doa to click as good as Tastetosis straight of the bat. Remember those guys have known each other for years and has been casting together for a long time. It takes time to gel, I'm sure Kelly and Doa (or Doa + whomever) will get there eventually.
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I don't like the new caster. He's what you would ,politically correctly, call a nice guy, but other than that he has nothing, no enthusiasm, no character.
He makes me sad.
The aberration archon, artosis+tastless+kelly provided much more entertainment and seemed to be the right choice regarding casting time, each having 2 days+ 1 off thanks to the GSL code A -code S schedule.
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I have to agree with the notions that the casting is just boring now.
I actually liked it (after the early struggles) when it was Kelly/Tasteless or Kelly/Artosis, because it still kept that GSL feeling and I thought all three all had great chemistry with each other. We even got to see gems like "now you know how Grack Fields".
With this new guy... I don't have fun watching any more.
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On March 09 2011 21:10 Bagi wrote: I have to agree with the notions that the casting is just boring now.
I actually liked it (after the early struggles) when it was Kelly/Tasteless or Kelly/Artosis, because it still kept that GSL feeling and I thought all three all had great chemistry with each other. We even got to see gems like "now you know how Grack Fields".
With this new guy... I don't have fun watching any more.
Wow, that weird! You mean that Kelly + one of the guys who more or less define SC2 casting is better than Kelly + new guy who's been in korea for less than a week.
Christ, give it some time. It was the exact same deal with the observer. People overexaggerate and whine when something new is introduced, often without giving it more than a day or two. Change is scary and it might be a bumpy ride at first, but at least give it a try.
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Oh boy , Kelly's clarity is bad enough let alone this guy... he has no personality, its really making me cringe . I tune in to watch artosis/tasteless because they are simply hilarious. Code A is currently in my opinion as blunt as it sounds ... STALE!
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now i'm sad that i actually found doa kinda funny sometimes since no one else does :\. i think he's great, but kelly's just not a good pairing with him. i think if we saw a doa + artosis or tasteless pairing, it'd be awesome.
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I agree. Some people just don't shine with certain personalities. Be interesting as you say Anathema pairing him up with someone else
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yeah he seems like a nice guy, but he like many other said not much personality, enthusiasm and exciting.
today alicia vs. supernova, was very poorly commentated, they were talking why alicia lost on crossfire and it was cleary because his macro slipped, he had over 2k minerals, because of his hidden expansion but lost to the push were his nexus died because he just had bad macro and to few buildings/units... and the commentary duo was talking about micro and positioning and stuff like this... very poorly for a caster who should have a good overview over a game..
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Kelly seems to be shutting Doa down a bit. He tries for some decent jokes but she either interrupts or goes for game analysis, leaving him hanging.
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