On a thread about feedback for this caster why is one option "DIDN'T LISTEN LOL," what exactly does that contribute to? That a lot of people didn't watch last night's GSL? ok...
On March 08 2011 03:04 jeremycafe wrote: I find Erik to be a much better caster than Artosis. I would love for Erik and to be one the casters of Code S.
you don't care about game analysis?
don't get me wrong I think erik is a fine caster, but in terms of game knowledge he doesn't even come close to artosis
Artosis is constantly calling units by the wrong name and consistently misses things. Instead of improving what does he do? He makes his "omg nerds are gonna make fun of me over this one" in a nerdy voice. Artosis isn't getting any better. I'd put my money on Erik getting better over time when it comes to analysis.
I think you underestimate how good Artosis is as an analytical caster.
Your opinion is completely wrong (quite a feat for an opinion!).
Yeah Artosis is fucking amazing at analysis, I love him and there is literally nothing he needs to improve on (other than templErs, gd it it's templARRRRRR!) because his analysis is so fucking high-level, deep, and CORRECT in every MU 99% of the time.
After listening to him last night, I can honestly say that he could be a average-good caster. The voice was there, the play-by-play style was there, but the chemistry was not.
One thing I noticed is he has *a lot* of Tasteless mannerisms. I don't know if that's him trying to adapt his casting or that's what he usually does.
A lot of people aren't hating on Kelly because she's a woman. I don't like Kelly, but I liked lilsusie. She doesn't have the voice that is appealing to many of the English watchers (and I understand her perfectly.) Most importantly, her chemistry between people is lacking. Tastosis constantly joke around when casting with her, only to be given back complete silence.
I hope they put doa and Tastosis together to see how they perform.
On March 08 2011 03:04 jeremycafe wrote: I find Erik to be a much better caster than Artosis. I would love for Erik and to be one the casters of Code S.
you don't care about game analysis?
don't get me wrong I think erik is a fine caster, but in terms of game knowledge he doesn't even come close to artosis
Artosis is constantly calling units by the wrong name and consistently misses things. Instead of improving what does he do? He makes his "omg nerds are gonna make fun of me over this one" in a nerdy voice. Artosis isn't getting any better. I'd put my money on Erik getting better over time when it comes to analysis.
Do you realize that there's no such thing as a caster that never misspeaks or catches every single thing? Do you realize the actual depth of Artosis's analysis? Do you realize how ridiculous it is stating that a platinum player will get better than Artosis over time when it comes to analysis when Artosis has been dedicated to playing and analyzing pro Starcraft for years? Do you realize how much you seem like a mindless hater with no actual argument?
Of course every caster will make mistakes. But making them every other topic is a bit excessive. The guy is constantly messing up or cutting dan off while he is talking. He is not a good public speaker at all. It takes more than just knowing what the game is.
What the hell are you even talking about? Making mistakes on every other topic? I don't hear Dan (who IS Artosis, btw) make many mistakes, and his biggest strength is his analysis, which nobody can rival. Sorry, making in-depth analysis of gameplay on the fly is a talent that isn't easily learned, or comes from casting experience. You either devote all of your time as a student of the game, or you don't. Unless Erik does that, his analysis isn't going to come close to Artosis'. I'm not an Artosis fanboy, but no one (as was explicitly shown in the WCG 2005 vid) loves the game more than him, and his analysis exemplifies that love. He's the analyst, not the caster.
Mixed bad for doa for me. Yes he speaks well and clearly, but his voice is pretty monotone and doesn't really change throughout the cast during exciting parts.
He needs to be drinking that coke on his desk to get sugar in his body to ramp up his energy and excitement level.
In terms of knowledge, he's on par with husky and HD, but both of them bring more energy and excitement to their casts. Hopefully he improves his energy level for future casts cause he sounds the same during the first minute of the game and the climax of the games.
On March 08 2011 03:04 jeremycafe wrote: I find Erik to be a much better caster than Artosis. I would love for Erik and to be one the casters of Code S.
you don't care about game analysis?
don't get me wrong I think erik is a fine caster, but in terms of game knowledge he doesn't even come close to artosis
Artosis is constantly calling units by the wrong name and consistently misses things. Instead of improving what does he do? He makes his "omg nerds are gonna make fun of me over this one" in a nerdy voice. Artosis isn't getting any better. I'd put my money on Erik getting better over time when it comes to analysis.
Do you realize that there's no such thing as a caster that never misspeaks or catches every single thing? Do you realize the actual depth of Artosis's analysis? Do you realize how ridiculous it is stating that a platinum player will get better than Artosis over time when it comes to analysis when Artosis has been dedicated to playing and analyzing pro Starcraft for years? Do you realize how much you seem like a mindless hater with no actual argument?
Of course every caster will make mistakes. But making them every other topic is a bit excessive. The guy is constantly messing up or cutting dan off while he is talking. He is not a good public speaker at all. It takes more than just knowing what the game is.
What the hell are you even talking about? Making mistakes on every other topic? I don't hear Dan (who IS Artosis, btw) make many mistakes, and his biggest strength is his analysis, which nobody can rival. Sorry, making in-depth analysis of gameplay on the fly is a talent that isn't easily learned, or comes from casting experience. You either devote all of your time as a student of the game, or you don't. Unless Erik does that, his analysis isn't going to come close to Artosis'. I'm not an Artosis fanboy, but no one (as was explicitly shown in the WCG 2005 vid) loves the game more than him, and his analysis exemplifies that love. He's the analyst, not the caster.
My bad, I mixed up their nick names. This was meant to about Tasteless not Artosis. I hate nick names.
I think Dan and Erik would make for a much better combo.
He dropped me a line last night saying he was too nervous to even venture into analysis (and who wouldn't be? it's the GSL!). He says he's working on it and, knowing him, he'll definitely take constructive criticism and work his ass off.
So can we agree on one thing? Doa could be an AMAZING caster if he spent a lot of time practicing his ass off on the KR ladder. If he gets to high diamond or even better he'll be good enough to be in the "casting pantheon", a commentator/caster that everyone basically thinks is very very good and can attract people to events with his mere presence.
I like him right now. Just making a suggestion if he wants to go above and beyond the call of duty.
On March 08 2011 05:59 Turgid wrote: So can we agree on one thing? Doa could be an AMAZING caster if he spent a lot of time practicing his ass off on the KR ladder. If he gets to high diamond or even better he'll be good enough to be in the "casting pantheon", a commentator/caster that everyone basically thinks is very very good and can attract people to events with his mere presence.
I like him right now. Just making a suggestion if he wants to go above and beyond the call of duty.
He actually is right now (I don't know his KR account off hand). And he's got this cool month inbetween GSL's that he said he's going to take advantage of and ladder a ton.
On March 08 2011 05:42 Vei wrote:Yeah Artosis is fucking amazing at analysis, I love him and there is literally nothing he needs to improve on (other than templErs, gd it it's templARRRRRR!) because his analysis is so fucking high-level, deep, and CORRECT in every MU 99% of the time.
I've heard TemplAr in movies and such when it refers to a Templar caste or whatnot. Still works in SC so that one doesn't annoy me. His Zeelots and Eyedras annoy me though. I guess that's part of why I prefer Day9.
As for Doa, he was alright. Can't really complain, particularly since it was his first time on...
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