MLG 2011 Competition Format Changes - Page 13

On February 27 2011 05:05 Corrik wrote:
Generally the top 16 get traveling stipends from MLG. The point system is set up the way it is to encourage players to show up at all events. If you miss a single event, you could drop out of the top 16. This is how MLG secures its "star" players to return.

Also, I don't get the hate on extended series. This is an event played over a course of a weekend. The only real difference between an extended series and one that isn't is that you could possibly see more games between the two competitors and that the person who lost before has to win more.

The reasoning is that if you have say (this is only an example) Idra play Huk. Let's say Idra wins 2-0.

Idra goes on in the Winner's Bracket and Huk drops down into the Loser Bracket. Idra then loses to say Jinro and drops down into the Loser Bracket also. Huk wins out to face Idra in the Loser Bracket.

If Huk wins 2-1, he would advance though he technically lost more games to Idra than he won.

In a tournament with a loser's bracket, you want to ensure the best player/team advances. Thus, this is why extended series is used. I would think most tournaments with a loser's bracket played over a weekend would use an extended series.

All it means is that the series would have started 2-0 for Idra. Idra would have to win 2 games while Huk would have to win 4. The reason Huk is in the hole is his own doing for losing the first games. And, this means more games to be viewed if Huk wins the series.

This makes every game mean a lot more to the competitor. Sure, Idra might prefer the first and third map so he could just basically cede the 2nd game to the opponent and win 2-1 to advance. But, with extended series, it would make that decision stupid as he might play that opponent later and he is giving him a free win.

It's a good rule, in my opinion.

On February 27 2011 08:50 bkrow wrote:
Maybe there has been some response to map pool in the previous 13 pages but oh well.. ill ask - what about the map pool and is there room to move between different MLGs with regards to maps?

Also - extended series isn't the end of the world makes things interesting..

On February 26 2011 09:14 zaii wrote:


half of the community hated it and other half liked it.

Also god damn it Slasher.

On February 27 2011 11:04 Cobbbler wrote:


Actually, there was a poll in the live update feed of MLG last time asking if you liked Extended Series or not. It was "No" dominated. I would say...70%ish percent. Then they immediately pulled the poll from the feed.

Why aren't the top 16 just playing against the 16 that make it out of the open bracket. This format just seems like a joke to protect the "top" players.

On February 27 2011 11:49 zaii wrote:


Top 16 have to fight each other then fight the 16 that come out of the open bracket, Thats all to get a good placing for the championship bracket if i remember correctly.

Group A: HuK (1), Jinro (8), SLush (9), Machine (16)
Group B: KiWiKaKi (2), Tyler (7), qxc (10), Agh (15)
Group C: TT1 (3), Drewbie (6), IdrA (11), TLO (14)
Group D: SeleCt (4), PainUser (5), Socke (12), Ret (13)

Each group will have one player added to it, the four remaining players left from the Open Bracket. Seed 17 will be in Group A, Seed 18 in Group B, Seed 19 in Group C, and Seed 20 in Group D.

On February 27 2011 11:49 zaii wrote:
Strange how its only 57% here and 70ish there?

On February 27 2011 13:14 Bobster wrote:

What people forget to mention when they throw around the 57% against Extended Series (and thereby imply that 43% are in favour of it), is that only 24% were actually for the extended series, and 20% had no opinion.

A 24% approval rate clearly shows an overwhelming majority opinion against the extended series on Team Liquid. Which makes sense, you know, since it's absolutely retarded and doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

On February 27 2011 13:42 applejuice wrote:


If you haven't noticed, a large of amount of the Team Liquid community hates everything. I doubt a poll asking anything positive would result in anything above 40% yes.Try a poll like: "Is Husky good for the SC2 community?" and see how the sheep vote.

You must have missed the memo: the pros either support it now, or have stopped complaining about it. Be nice if the "haters" would follow suit.

When considering individual matches, the extended series appears to
perform well to make sure the better player continues in the
tournament. In this sense, it fulfills its purpose.

But when looking at the larger picture, it appears that the extended
series has little effect on the outcome. While the extended series
rule does slightly improve outcomes, these differences are not
particularly significant compared to the overall double elimination
format.

On February 27 2011 15:42 robmixstyle wrote:
bo3 finals? t.t