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Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
April 18 2011 02:25 GMT
#1921
the lagtv vis was nice.. but skiping games 1-2 of the series was really sucky..
u dont do stuff live to get better production..yet you deliver poor production.

i really hope u end up improving,for esports,the stream should be in order with the leagues size..rigth now its not.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
April 18 2011 02:26 GMT
#1922
Will NASL release a media player in the future where we can watch the broadcast instead of justin TV?
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
April 18 2011 02:33 GMT
#1923
On April 18 2011 11:25 Carras wrote:
the lagtv vis was nice.. but skiping games 1-2 of the series was really sucky..



I don't get that decision either. Unless it was related to technical problems and that was a stop gap. As I said I wasn't a fan of it either way.
Nihn'kas Neehn
Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
April 18 2011 02:37 GMT
#1924
obviously it wasnt a decision,it was a technical problem or just a screw-up
Mairu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States222 Posts
April 18 2011 03:15 GMT
#1925
Can you guys get whoever is in charge of controlling the audio balance to watch a GSL or TSL cast? Listen to how loud the casters are relative to the game volume & music volume, and just copy that. NASL has the commentators at an extremely high volume relative to anything else, so it's almost impossible to hear what's going on in the game or the music. Just copy how GSL/TSL does it, because they've got it down right.
Denarthis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States22 Posts
April 18 2011 06:48 GMT
#1926
On April 18 2011 09:05 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 09:00 Denarthis wrote:
Hey, I think you guys are doing an amazing job, and the entire tournament has been amazing so far.

I was however wondering when/if you are planning on trying to give a lower quality VOD format. My computer isn't amazing, but it is not a piece of trash. For some reason the 1080p quality makes it completely unwatchable for me. Its the ability to watch the matches, not super high quality, that is important to me. And besides the overpowering desire to support Esports ( :D) the VODs were the main reason I wanted to purchase a pass.

Just a question, great job with everything so far! Extremely impressive.


They are working on this issue with Justin.tv, their streaming and video hosting provider.


Thanks, I've been trying to find something about it, but apparently I hadn't looked hard enough. Glad to see they are working on the issue, hopefully it will get fixed soon. I'm real impressed with the responses from NASL on a lot of issues that have been occurring.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 18 2011 08:29 GMT
#1927
I am not sure, if anyone's going to read this in a 97 page thread but anyway

I don't really get all the whining about PayPal, especially from my fellow Europeans. I'm not 100% sure about other countries around, but here (and quite surely also in Poland and Slovakia) you can get an account and a VISA card (gets accepted for every online payment I have ever done and I do a lot of them) for exactly 0 money in about a week. Then you can just send the equivalent of 25 bucks there and pay, if you don't trust them with your money or whatever. The "I don't have a card" is just an excuse for one's laziness and adding more payment options just costs NASL money that can be used somewhere for a real benefit to the league (whereas you can do it totally free).
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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SgtRock
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada93 Posts
April 18 2011 20:38 GMT
#1928
On April 18 2011 11:21 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 11:19 Jinsho wrote:
I do not think it's acceptable to be as vulgar as the two guys from LAGTV in their video. We want to at least create the illusion that eSports is a mature and valid thing right?

They have some genuinely good stuff on their YT account, they should try better next time. It all sounded really forced as well.


I 100% agree.

Vulgarity like that doesn't have a place in the NASL as far as I am concerned. I will go to bat on this point with the NASL admins etc.


I have been watching these guys for a while now and I know that given the chance to do it again, they will be as they should. I really hope that they will be given another chance to do a when cheese fails on the NASL. Maybe having someone to watch/edit videos that are submitted beforehand?
CarbotAnimations
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
April 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#1929
Dear NASL,

I have been trying to deal with the stream lag since the league went live, and for a while I thought it was just an issue with justin.tv. Now IGN's league is on and I am dumbfounded how much better it is than yours. I am experiencing virtually no lag, and the visual quality is significantly better at all qualities. Since you both use justin.tv, there is something seriously wrong with your stream.

Is anyone ever going to address these issues?
starleague forever
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
April 22 2011 01:26 GMT
#1930
With all the walkovers, something just occurred to me:

If a player plays someone who's better than him, and gets 2-0'd, the opponent gets two wins, and the player gets two losses. If a player can't make his match and is found to have tried, the opponent gets two wins, but the player doesn't get any losses.

This means that if a player thinks that he's going to lose his game, he has an incentive to "not be able" to make the game, because a W-O is better for his ranking that a loss.

How is NASL preventing the potential for abuse?
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
April 22 2011 01:34 GMT
#1931
On April 22 2011 10:26 Ribbon wrote:
With all the walkovers, something just occurred to me:

If a player plays someone who's better than him, and gets 2-0'd, the opponent gets two wins, and the player gets two losses. If a player can't make his match and is found to have tried, the opponent gets two wins, but the player doesn't get any losses.

This means that if a player thinks that he's going to lose his game, he has an incentive to "not be able" to make the game, because a W-O is better for his ranking that a loss.

How is NASL preventing the potential for abuse?

hmm, good point

Maybe something like, only allowing one unpenalized W-O
MKP||TSL
shaldengeki
Profile Joined May 2009
United States104 Posts
April 22 2011 02:10 GMT
#1932
One thing that's been bugging me for awhile with respect to the NASL is the quality of the audio work in general. There's a couple points to be made here:

1. The lack of background music - the SC2 background music, in particular - means that there's a lot of dead time and detracts from the atmosphere of the event. Was this a conscious design choice?
2. I'm not sure what kind of microphones the commentators at the studio are using, but it sounds like they're of pretty low quality. I can understand if this is a decision made on budget grounds, but it detracts from the professionalism of the broadcast when it sounds like you're talking into a typical laptop microphone.
3. The audio levels are pretty significantly off. Whoever is in charge of production for your videos needs to get his act together; voices are way too loud relative to game audio, and in particular at times I feel like Gretorp's microphone is significantly quieter than the other casters. Right now, for example, the guest caster is way louder than Gretorp and just drowns the game audio and Gretorp out every time he talks.

It may feel like these are nitpicks, and to some extent they are, but when added together they detract pretty significantly from how professional the broadcast looks and sounds. They're little things, but that makes them easy to fix, too. I appreciate all that you're trying to do for the SC2 professional gaming community, and I hope you guys succeed, but I feel like interest in the NASL is flagging (I know mine is, despite my best attempts) and I just wanted to leave some input that could help you improve the quality and appeal of your production.

As a side-note, I know this probably isn't under your control, but the Olive Garden advertisement is absolutely horrendous. It's incredibly startling to mute the stream, go off to do something else for a little bit, and then a few minutes later have an advertisement at full-blast come over your speakers. If you've got any sway in this area I'd ask you to please exclude these kinds of advertisements from your stream, or at the very least have the mute apply to the advertisement as well.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
April 22 2011 02:14 GMT
#1933
We unfortunately have 0 control over the ads -- you could lobby Justin.tv to not include them though :D!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
`Forte
Profile Joined August 2010
United States128 Posts
April 22 2011 02:28 GMT
#1934
I accidentally posted this in the wrong thread, lol.


On April 22 2011 11:19 [Avarice] wrote:
The main thing putting me off of watching NASL is the audio quality.

I feel like the first 2 days it wasn't this bad (the audio quality was still noticably subpar though), but now it seems kind of just awful--like the casters are talking into laptop mics over Skype. The levels are off too, and the lack of SC2 music makes the audio feel a little empty, but the main problem is that there's more white-noise and static than there is actual voice. The audio just doesn't seem professional.

If the audio was crisp I'd have almost no qualms with NASL and I'd watch it every evening. Is it the mics or the post-production that is making the audio poor? It's very off-putting.


Even though the video quality looks good, there are great games being played, I love Khaldor, and Gretorp + Inc are improving quickly as casters, I just can't watch NASL right now because of how cheap and irritating the audio quality is. Are there any ways to fix this soon? I think a lot of people would be happy.
shaldengeki
Profile Joined May 2009
United States104 Posts
April 22 2011 02:45 GMT
#1935
On April 22 2011 11:14 Xeris wrote:
We unfortunately have 0 control over the ads -- you could lobby Justin.tv to not include them though :D!

Yeah, I figured as much. That's really unfortunate :<

Still, hope you guys take what I said into consideration. It seems I'm not the only one with these concerns, which is a little reassuring since now I know I'm not just being overly picky.
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
April 22 2011 02:48 GMT
#1936
Xeris: Is that xsplit.com watermark in the free stream also in the paid stream?
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 03:21:50
April 22 2011 03:02 GMT
#1937
I'm assuming the audio problems are on NASL's end and not Khaldor's but in either case they need to be fixed. I had to shut the stream off, totally unwatchable with how bad the audio is right now.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
April 22 2011 03:25 GMT
#1938
On April 22 2011 11:48 sc2lime wrote:
Xeris: Is that xsplit.com watermark in the free stream also in the paid stream?


Its cuz Xsplit is down so we can't login and authenticate or something ? O_O~
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
quentel
Profile Joined March 2011
349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 03:32:04
April 22 2011 03:31 GMT
#1939
Watch IPL VODs at when they're up at http://www.ign.com/ipl

Take notes.
hazeee
Profile Joined April 2011
4 Posts
April 23 2011 22:13 GMT
#1940
Can I watch this anywhere for free? or do I have to pay $25?
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