EPTwhy pay for vods when I can get vods for free. why watch live when its a vod? how is it considered "live"?
[Q&A] Official NASL Thread - Page 40
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hiddenbanshee
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why pay for vods when I can get vods for free. why watch live when its a vod? how is it considered "live"? | ||
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MrKefka
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
On February 24 2011 21:51 hiddenbanshee wrote: i'm very dissapointed to hear the games will not be live and this strongly affects chances of paying for content. why pay for vods when I can get vods for free. why watch live when its a vod? how is it considered "live"? you clearly dont know whats a vod | ||
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stockton
United States128 Posts
The League Format: This is a league. I can't put on a jersey and shorts and start playing in the NBA, and similarly players can't pick up a mouse and keyboard and play in this league (except for the Open). We want professional players backed financially by teams. Our aim is to make SC2 a truly professional sport. there are actually good reasons for this. quit using this garbage analogy. maybe you don't even know why it is a good reason, but either way this comparison isn't as valid as you think. if you are really nice i'll tell you the good reasons, otherwise you'll just have to think for yourself. edit: guess i don't have a question here. lol. how about...why do you equate nasl with nba? is there any real reason to do this rather than treat it like an individual sport like golf, tennis, MMA, etc..? | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On February 24 2011 21:28 kjetulf wrote: My question, finally is this: Are you against all professional gaming outside of a team and in that case; why? Whilst I don't personally agree with the five per team rule regarding teams, I do understand this one and it was addressed on SOTG. If I recall correctly, and I don't speak for them, Russel and InControl said something along the lines of... a team makes a player accountable, it gives them insurance amongst other things that the players will fulfill their expectation. Imagine a tournament where you plan 4 games per night and every so often 1 of those games doesn't happen due to a player, who is not on a team and therefore unaccountable, just not playing it/sending in replay. That is just one of the reasons I can think of off the top of my head. It will make teams rethink how they want to structure their team (rather than mass recruit players, they actually look and judge talent appropriately) and hopefully bring some more professionalism to the scene, which is something I look forward to. | ||
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MisterPuppy
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pakiepiphany
United States8 Posts
Interesting reddit thread going on, essentially incontrol asked for a restream of GSL, he was directed to huko's stream in which they were talking about whether or not incontrol was actually fit to be the face of NASL, which resulted in a perma-ban for huko (which is now reduced to a temp ban) for "restreaming / being a huge prick" Huko's explanation: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/frqvb/this_is_the_face_of_nasl/c1i4r32 Screen shots: http://i.imgur.com/Q5dsy.png http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4629/10843172.png | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
That clearly makes incontrol worse than ten hitlers. | ||
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TLOBrian
United States453 Posts
Apparently hes too famous to pay and support GSL. | ||
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Pondo
Australia283 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:12 MisterPuppy wrote: whats your response to this: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/frqvb/this_is_the_face_of_nasl/ I've pretty much always been on the side of incontrol but thats hilariously hypocritical and douchey. Just to be clear I'm not suggesting incontrol should be taken off the nasl. Oh and I'd just like to add another voice of disagreement with this 5 team players rule. Can't wait for this league to start tho!!! | ||
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pakiepiphany
United States8 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:46 flodeskum wrote: So he had an arguement with someone, banned him and then someone else unbanned said guy... That clearly makes incontrol worse than ten hitlers. It's not really the fact that he banned someone, has more to do with the fact that he think's he is too famous to pay for gsl, and he is supposedly a supporter of esports and attempting to become the face of NASL. Im also not sure on the legitimacy of this but from reading the reddit thread some people say he was also watching a HQ restream while streaming and running commercials. I think its one thing to not pay for premium GSL but its another thing to profit from it.. :/ Here's the comment http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/frqvb/this_is_the_face_of_nasl/c1i4rkm | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
I remember movie stars losing sponsorship from Coca-Cola when caught drinking Pepsi in public. I know it is not same but is it kind of similar. Before anyone says it: I am not trying to get Incontrol fired with this. I just hope he gets his act together. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
But as for the face of NASL, I think he suites it, he has great commentary, great knowledge of the game and is pretty witty, people just seem to dislike him on a personal level, probably brought on due to STOG, but NASL is different to that, it is just commentary, he isn't talking about the state of the game. Going to give InControl a chance, he isn't a terrible caster by any stretch, certainly not bad enough to somehow doom a league, I mean, he casts GCPL and does a pretty stand up job, people just need to stop being so bitter | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:46 flodeskum wrote: So he had an arguement with someone, banned him and then someone else unbanned said guy... That clearly makes incontrol worse than ten hitlers. Invoking Godwin's law as your very first act of defense is pretty weak. Let's see where this all is going. Pretty sure we need more context to judge it properly, but it'll be interesting what Mr. Inc has to say. | ||
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Bliznako
Serbia165 Posts
On February 24 2011 21:21 zeru wrote: How is it derailment? It's the official NASL thread and we are talking about NASL, giving our opinions on what we like and don't like. It's not in any way derailment. The title of the thread is [Q&A] Official NASL Thread, not discuss what your highly valued opinion of how things are done when organizing an Esports event are. On topic... I asked earlier, but the question got lost... Since there is bound to have matches between European and Korean players, how will the inevitable lag be handled? Can this be avoided if the game is actually hosted by a NA host? | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
Actually a FACE of NASL was caught watching an illegal restream of GSL and streaming it on his own stream while his commercials were also running. THAT is big. Dude, it isn't even that big at all, he was on skype with Idra and JP talking about the games, you could barely make out the commentary and video from his stream of another stream since he had the volume lowered and would never full screen the video, and he also publicly apologized on STOG for re-streaming. He also runs commercials after every game, think that was more out of habit. | ||
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mark05
Canada807 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:50 Pondo wrote: I've pretty much always been on the side of incontrol but thats hilariously hypocritical and douchey. Just to be clear I'm not suggesting incontrol should be taken off the nasl. Oh and I'd just like to add another voice of disagreement with this 5 team players rule. Can't wait for this league to start tho!!! I totally agree apologies are needed for that, you just CANNOT do that if you want to be the face of e-sport in america | ||
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TLOBrian
United States453 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:54 Dommk wrote: Dude, it isn't even that big at all, he was on skype with Idra and JP talking about the games, you could barely make out the commentary and video from his stream of another stream since he had the volume lowered and would never full screen the video, and he also publicly apologized on STOG for re-streaming. He also runs commercials after every game, think that was more out of habit. How is it not that big a deal!? I'm so confused by your logic that this isn't a big deal just because it was in shitty quality. Does this mean that I can stream myself stealing from a store in low quality and then have it not a big deal when someone complains about it? What are you ON dude? | ||
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ShadowLegacy
Canada55 Posts
Get off your moral high horses and gtfo. Sarcasm can't be read online and clearly incontrol was sarcastic about his higher than mighty comments. Yes everyone thinks the president called him during the SOTG... wow. Question: Can we all thank you for the effort you guys put into this ? Thanks ! | ||
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reptile
United States210 Posts
On February 24 2011 21:51 hiddenbanshee wrote: i'm very dissapointed to hear the games will not be live and this strongly affects chances of paying for content. why pay for vods when I can get vods for free. why watch live when its a vod? how is it considered "live"? I have to agree with this... I'd take LIVE matches over quality any day. It's much more entertaining and exciting to watch a live match then a simple uploaded video. Hell, that's what youtube is for. I pay for GSL because occasionally, I'll stay up till 4 and watch the Koreans. There's no way I'll be willing to pay for content that can't be watched live, simply isn't worth it. | ||
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