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beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 00:14:38
January 29 2011 20:27 GMT
#1
iv looked for a thread of someone compiling who is in code S for march and have not found one. so i made one myself. starts mid February despite being called the march season of gsl.



code S
(Z)NesTea
(T)TheBestfOu
(Z)oGsZenio
(T)IMmvp
(T)SlayerSBoxeR
(T)oGsHyperdub
(P)choyafOu
(P)TesteR
(T)RainBOw
(P)Genius
(P)oGsMC
(T)oGsNada
(T)MarineKingPrime
(T)Clide
(T)Jinro
(Z)IdrA
(T)Lyn
(Z)oGsTheWinD
(P)oGsInCa
(P)Banbanssu
(P)HongUnPrime
(P)anyproPrime
(T)oGsEnsnare
(Z)CheckPrime
(Z)KyrixZenith
(Z)July
(T)sCfOu
(Z)FruitDealer
(T)ZeNexByun
(T)oGsTOP
(P)SanZenith
(T)PoltPrime

15 terran
9 protoss
8 zerg


players that dropped to code A
(Z)oGsJookTo
(T)Rain
(T)MakaPrime
(Z)LeenockfOu
(P)LegalMindZenith


players that moved up
(Z)July
(T)ZeNexByun
(T)oGsTOP
(T)Lyn
(P)Banbanssu
(T)sCfOu







(T)LiveForever went to the military thus he can not participate in march's gsl.

note-some of the players came up with the wrong race. i did my best to fix it but if one slips by tell me and il fix it. on some players i also could not get the team to be in the name.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 29 2011 20:28 GMT
#2
What. Rain. what. wait. second. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.

FruitDealer is still in but Rain dropped?
mind=blown
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 20:29:58
January 29 2011 20:28 GMT
#3
Thanks for the list

Are these in order of points? Just wondering.

I hope Maka moves up!

On January 30 2011 05:28 Zephirdd wrote:
FruitDealer is still in but Rain dropped?
mind=blown


FD won GSL1... how are you surprised he's still in Code S?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 20:37:03
January 29 2011 20:29 GMT
#4
MountainToss fighting!

Seriously though the only dependable pick right now is MVP. Lots could change by March.

FD won GSL1... how are you surprised he's still in Code S?

honestly FD has been pretty unimpressive recently, and staying in code S has nothing to do with accumulated points so him winning GSL 1 no longer means anything. FD's fails, in GSL 2, 3 and January are perfect examples of how competitive the rate of improvement in sc2 is, even among top players.
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
January 29 2011 20:30 GMT
#5
well no one seems able to repeat, so Im picking choyafou because of his prediction for the jan finals.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 20:32:11
January 29 2011 20:30 GMT
#6
On January 30 2011 05:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Thanks for the list

Are these in order of points? Just wondering.

I hope Maka moves up!

no meaningful order. first 16 are players that made it out of there group. i put them in the order that there groups were in so nestea was first and jinro and idra were last. then the next 16 where the up down match people in order of groups once again.

it was just the easiest way for me to do it.
Sliver
Profile Joined April 2010
United States402 Posts
January 29 2011 20:31 GMT
#7
Oh man Leenock dropped...he was so great against Cliiide though.
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 20:31:54
January 29 2011 20:31 GMT
#8
Its kind of hard to believe that Rain even managed to get to the finals if he only cheesed (which I doubt, but was heavily in his play anyways). Was his GSL3 bracket really -that- easy if he got dropped immediately to Code A that quickly?
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
January 29 2011 20:39 GMT
#9
Well at least we should have some more hilariously short games with SanZenith in them.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 29 2011 20:39 GMT
#10
it's so strange there are as many Zergs as Protosses
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
January 29 2011 20:40 GMT
#11
On January 30 2011 05:39 Geo.Rion wrote:
it's so strange there are as many Zergs as Protosses

there are 8 zerg and 9 protoss
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
January 29 2011 20:41 GMT
#12
Leenock will crush through code A now ;>
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
January 29 2011 20:41 GMT
#13
On January 30 2011 05:31 Sliver wrote:
Oh man Leenock dropped...he was so great against Cliiide though.


Leenock dropped in the most upsetting fashion ever too TT

====

Worth noting that while this is GSL March, it does seem to begin halfway through Feb
OverZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States271 Posts
January 29 2011 20:41 GMT
#14
Sad to see LeeNock drop down to Code A, the kid is really good despite still going to school everyday and also has provided some of the best games so far.
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nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
January 29 2011 20:43 GMT
#15
Maybe add players who moved up to Code S as well?
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 20:51:31
January 29 2011 20:49 GMT
#16
On January 30 2011 05:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Thanks for the list

Are these in order of points? Just wondering.

I hope Maka moves up!

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 05:28 Zephirdd wrote:
FruitDealer is still in but Rain dropped?
mind=blown


FD won GSL1... how are you surprised he's still in Code S?


Because he was a total blow in GSL4. FruitDealer IMO hasn't evolved as much as he should.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Mafs
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada458 Posts
January 29 2011 20:53 GMT
#17
Watching some of Julyzerg's games it looks like Code S will be pretty hard on him. But he is an amazing player and can always adapt and adjust to the trends. I would like to see some of his CodeS games in the future.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
January 29 2011 20:56 GMT
#18
2 of the protoss are pretty bad. Wish HuK would replace them =S.
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beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 20:58:09
January 29 2011 20:57 GMT
#19
On January 30 2011 05:56 DeltruS wrote:
2 of the protoss are pretty bad. Wish HuK would replace them =S.

he will be there, he just has to blow threw code B and A first.
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
January 29 2011 20:58 GMT
#20
On January 30 2011 05:29 gogogadgetflow wrote:
MountainToss fighting!

Seriously though the only dependable pick right now is MVP. Lots could change by March.

Show nested quote +
FD won GSL1... how are you surprised he's still in Code S?

honestly FD has been pretty unimpressive recently, and staying in code S has nothing to do with accumulated points so him winning GSL 1 no longer means anything. FD's fails, in GSL 2, 3 and January are perfect examples of how competitive the rate of improvement in sc2 is, even among top players.


I dont know about fails, I mean in GSL 2 he lost against MKP, nothing to really call a failure since he later got to the finals. GSL 3 he got to RO8 and lost 3-2 against hongun, a very good toss. GSL 4 he lost against MVP and zenio in BO1s, a silly format if you ask me.

Sure he tends to go a little bit to much all in nowadays but failures is a bit exaggerated, he is still one of the best zergs out there if you ask me, if he just stopped being so scared of taking games to lategame, something it seems he is atm, Im sure we will see him in the finals again.

excellionx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 21:00:52
January 29 2011 21:00 GMT
#21
i still have faith in the fruitdealer even tho he had some disapointing performances in the past gsls
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
January 29 2011 21:00 GMT
#22
Alot of TvT in our futures.... with 15/32 players being T.. that means 45% of the games will be TvT (all other things being equal)
www.KoshkaTV.com
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
January 29 2011 21:05 GMT
#23
Look at all the oGs member in codeS.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
January 29 2011 21:06 GMT
#24
Tbh I find makaprime getting demoted a bigger upset then rain being so. Maka just feels like a more solid less gimmicky terran and I truly find that he belongs in S-class.

Some personal predictions

I think Julyzerg will have a truly hard time in S-class, I personally am not nearly as impressed as tastosis seem to be by his play.

+ Show Spoiler +
MKP will probably be forced to switch up his style now, atleast TvT since I guess everyone will try to copy MVPs style against him wich completly slaughtered him


Lyn will aswell have a pretty hard time and probably be in the up and down matches as 4th in his group depending on how that group looks ofc. Sure his play is pretty good but I dont think it will hold for RO16.

Liveforever wont win a game and will have to do onebase all ins to stay in S-class once again, hopefully he faces Leenock again and this time fails.

Tester will get to the finals and take a deserved win against MVP if the brackets lets them. I think its time for Tester to once again show everyone how truly awsome he is.

kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
January 29 2011 21:10 GMT
#25
the code S toss look pretty bad, outside of genius MC. Think it's going to be another terran domination unless we see the new maps being used. I can see mvp taking another title or at very least a deep run to semi's. mc's pvt doesn't seem as invisible anymore.
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
January 29 2011 21:13 GMT
#26
On January 30 2011 06:00 dsousa wrote:
Alot of TvT in our futures.... with 15/32 players being T.. that means 45% of the games will be TvT (all other things being equal)


it is entirly possibe however unlikely that we have 0 TvTs with 2 terrans in each group with them resulting in one going 1-1 and one 0-2 and not have to face eachother. From there it is once again possible for the same to occur in RO16 and no terrans being matched in RO8.

Just saying, you are not correct in saying 45% WILL be TvTs unless you already know the layout of the groups. Most likely lots will be but your statement is misleading.
dras
Profile Joined August 2010
Kazakhstan376 Posts
January 29 2011 21:14 GMT
#27
rain is awful, glad to see him go where he belongs.
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
January 29 2011 21:15 GMT
#28
On January 30 2011 06:06 doffe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MKP will probably be forced to switch up his style now, atleast TvT since I guess everyone will try to copy MVPs style against him wich completly slaughtered him




+ Show Spoiler +
Well, the thing is, MKP didn't really play MKP-style in the finals (outside the failed base-races I guess). In fact, I would even say that MVP played more MKP-like with his unit makeup and such



What this
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
January 29 2011 21:22 GMT
#29
On January 30 2011 06:15 Alphaes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 06:06 doffe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MKP will probably be forced to switch up his style now, atleast TvT since I guess everyone will try to copy MVPs style against him wich completly slaughtered him




+ Show Spoiler +
Well, the thing is, MKP didn't really play MKP-style in the finals (outside the failed base-races I guess). In fact, I would even say that MVP played more MKP-like with his unit makeup and such





+ Show Spoiler +
Didnt he play more or less his normal style on blistering, meta and xel naga? Maybe his factory---> starport was a bit earlier then normal but the midgame plan seemed to be the same as it usually is? Correct me if Im wrong.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 29 2011 21:34 GMT
#30
On January 30 2011 05:40 beat farm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 05:39 Geo.Rion wrote:
it's so strange there are as many Zergs as Protosses

there are 8 zerg and 9 protoss

oh, sorry then
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
xand
Profile Joined September 2010
United States65 Posts
January 29 2011 21:43 GMT
#31
Here's a list of people who moved up if you want to add them to the first post

(Z)July
(T)ZeNexByun
(T)oGsTOP
(T)Lyn
(T)oGsHyperdub
(P)Banbanssu
Daria
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia500 Posts
January 29 2011 21:56 GMT
#32
On January 30 2011 05:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Thanks for the list

Are these in order of points? Just wondering.

I hope Maka moves up!

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 05:28 Zephirdd wrote:
FruitDealer is still in but Rain dropped?
mind=blown


FD won GSL1... how are you surprised he's still in Code S?

FD isn't that good anymore imo, and the game has changed so much since GSL1 too.
daria[e]
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
January 29 2011 22:02 GMT
#33
ok im gonna pick 2 players per race:
zerg: nestea and uhm... i would have to go with zenio
terran: nada and MVP
toss: MC and genius
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 22:16:06
January 29 2011 22:04 GMT
#34
You can already guess the seedings of the players for GSL March.
By this you'll also know who the players will avoid.
You can also make a format for 2nd groupstage and the playoff without knowing the results.

I'll do the 1st groupstage group pots.
There are 4 pots A,B,C and D.
B and D have the same players but B and D will be assigned after the group drawings have been done. As B means the higher ranked person (rating they have achieved in last GSL) than D.

Seed A Players 1-8 in last GSL
Seed C Players 9-16 in last GSL
Seed B & D Players who finished 17-31

If a player is seeded A or B they won't be able to meet another player from the same pot.
This means Jinro will never face IdrA in the first groupstage etc.

A seeds:
(T)IMmvp
(Z)IMNesTea
(P)choyafOu
(P)TSL_Trickster(sSKS/TesteR)
(T)oGsNada
(T)MarineKingPrime.WE
(T)LiquidJinro
(Z)EGIdrA

C seeds:
(T)TheBestfOu
(Z)oGsZenio
(T)SlayerSBoxeR
(T)oGsHyperdub
(T)ST_RainBOw
(P)NSPGenius
(P)oGsMC
(T)TSL_Clide

B and D seeds:
(T)FOXLyn
(Z)oGsTheWinD
(P)oGsInCa
(P)ZeNEXBanbanssu
(P)HongUnPrime.WE
(P)anyproPrime.WE
(T)oGsEnsnare
(Z)CheckPrime.WE
(Z)KyrixZeNEX
(Z)ST_July
(T)sCfOu
(Z)TSL_FruitDealer
(T)ZeNEXByun
(T)LiveForever
(T)oGsTOP
(P)SanZeNEX
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
January 29 2011 22:07 GMT
#35
Awesomesauce, IdrA vs Jinro finals may be possible this time? lol

At least they won't have to knock each other out early.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 22:12:37
January 29 2011 22:10 GMT
#36
On January 30 2011 07:07 ThaZenith wrote:
Awesomesauce, IdrA vs Jinro finals may be possible this time? lol

At least they won't have to knock each other out early.

Possible yes. But it also depends in which groups they get drawn. Meaning if Idra is in Group C and Jinro in A they would meet eachother in the 2nd groupstage depending on their standings (first for one and other must be 2nd then).

Edit:
I just noticed. Due to standings it is possible we can have a group consisting of the following players.

Player A: oGsNaDa
Player C: SlayerSBoxeR
Player B or D: ST_July

Mindblowing group if that happens LOL.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
January 29 2011 22:17 GMT
#37
On January 30 2011 07:10 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 07:07 ThaZenith wrote:
Awesomesauce, IdrA vs Jinro finals may be possible this time? lol

At least they won't have to knock each other out early.

Possible yes. But it also depends in which groups they get drawn. Meaning if Idra is in Group C and Jinro in A they would meet eachother in the 2nd groupstage depending on their standings (first for one and other must be 2nd then).

Edit:
I just noticed. Due to standings it is possible we can have a group consisting of the following players.

Player A: oGsNaDa
Player C: SlayerSBoxeR
Player B or D: ST_July

Mindblowing group if that happens LOL.

omg that would be epic
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
January 29 2011 22:18 GMT
#38
Rain out of Code S, finally. That kid belongs in 2 x 4 wailing Code A.

I think FruitDealer is getting a lot of unwarranted flak for still retaining Code S. In the current state of the game, it's pretty hard on Zerg. The number of Zergs actually in Code S is pretty much evidence for this. IdrA even said that Zerg is going through a tough time right now. Maybe FruitDealer can lead the second revolution for Zerg, like he did in the first GSL.
jaeds
Profile Joined September 2010
United States106 Posts
January 29 2011 22:22 GMT
#39
On January 30 2011 06:00 excellionx wrote:
i still have faith in the fruitdealer even tho he had some disapointing performances in the past gsls


well, he won gsl1. he lost 0-2 to MKP in gsl2. note- IMNestea, who won gsl2, also began his series against MKP 0-2. so if IMNestea had faced MKP in RO64, he would have been knocked out the exact same way. GSL3 he lost 2-3 to hongun in a very interesting series, trying to 1base v. toss fast expand that failed which ultimately lost him the series. GSL Jan i didn't catch how he lost to Zenio, but his other loss was to MVP, who completely dominated this season with 1 loss total.

what i've noticed is that FD has been forced to change his style of play. The roach buff changed a great deal of zerg. Leenock, however, has stuck to a slightly less flashy FD GSL1 style (but fewer baneling drops)-- which is almost completely roachless macro. I think that's why Leenock is fun to watch, as FD in GSL1 was fun to watch.

but considering that, i think fruitdealer is still in the top 3 zergs-- i expect him to do better next season as well. I think he's far ahead of leenock, who still has to go through the changes FD started seasons ago.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
January 29 2011 22:24 GMT
#40
I've renamed this so it's a bit clearer what the thread is about.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 29 2011 22:27 GMT
#41
On January 30 2011 06:22 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 06:15 Alphaes wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:06 doffe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MKP will probably be forced to switch up his style now, atleast TvT since I guess everyone will try to copy MVPs style against him wich completly slaughtered him




+ Show Spoiler +
Well, the thing is, MKP didn't really play MKP-style in the finals (outside the failed base-races I guess). In fact, I would even say that MVP played more MKP-like with his unit makeup and such





+ Show Spoiler +
Didnt he play more or less his normal style on blistering, meta and xel naga? Maybe his factory---> starport was a bit earlier then normal but the midgame plan seemed to be the same as it usually is? Correct me if Im wrong.


+ Show Spoiler +
the point is that MVP copied MKP's style of play, implying MKP's style is solid and not a gimmick that can be countered
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
January 29 2011 22:35 GMT
#42
I like most of the players, wouldn't mind seeing Moon there though, the 5th race should be code S. I'm sure we are gonna have a lot of upsets at the start, untill people get used to maps. Better creep spread and nydus worm to defend those far away bases might be needed for zergs to remain competitive, at least it's what we get to see in gisado's stream. Most of those zergs are macro fiends, so should be fun!
EGM guides me
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
January 29 2011 22:40 GMT
#43
Love how last season Artosis was saying Leenock is one of the best. Predictions for next season: Jinro v Idra finals confirmed
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
zzdd
Profile Joined December 2010
United States484 Posts
January 29 2011 22:49 GMT
#44
On January 30 2011 07:27 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 06:22 doffe wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:15 Alphaes wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:06 doffe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MKP will probably be forced to switch up his style now, atleast TvT since I guess everyone will try to copy MVPs style against him wich completly slaughtered him




+ Show Spoiler +
Well, the thing is, MKP didn't really play MKP-style in the finals (outside the failed base-races I guess). In fact, I would even say that MVP played more MKP-like with his unit makeup and such





+ Show Spoiler +
Didnt he play more or less his normal style on blistering, meta and xel naga? Maybe his factory---> starport was a bit earlier then normal but the midgame plan seemed to be the same as it usually is? Correct me if Im wrong.


+ Show Spoiler +
the point is that MVP copied MKP's style of play, implying MKP's style is solid and not a gimmick that can be countered

+ Show Spoiler +
MVP said that MKP gets marines and marauders so he got more marines to counter the marauders and marines. Also MKP pretty much suiciding his units every game says more about MKP's state of mind than MVP's play. MKP's style is clearly not solid if base trades are his go to move when behind.
Tritonus
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark125 Posts
January 29 2011 22:53 GMT
#45
If GLS continues to be this Terran heavy, expect impending doom.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 29 2011 22:55 GMT
#46
On January 30 2011 07:53 Tritonus wrote:
If GLS continues to be this Terran heavy, expect impending doom.


My hopes is that, with the map pool change incoming, if becomes close to the 1/3 next time.
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hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 29 2011 22:59 GMT
#47
Booo 15 Terrans. TvT is incredibly boring to watch in my opinion and I'm really starting to tire of watching the same Terran rushes over and over.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
January 29 2011 23:14 GMT
#48
Hmm I'm interested in how all these Zergs will do this time. Hope I can see as many Idra matches as possible, that guy's just a beast.

Leenock not being code s is still my biggest upset. I mean he didn't prepare well in his games against the terran all-ins by NextLiveForever but was obviously the better player.

And he's playing by far better than July_Zerg (in SC2, at the moment, don't hate me). Just watching the Up-Down matches of July made me cry. If he doesn't step up his game or just had a very, very bad time I can't see him advancing much further.
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Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 23:31:44
January 29 2011 23:28 GMT
#49
On January 30 2011 05:28 Zephirdd wrote:
What. Rain. what. wait. second. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.

FruitDealer is still in but Rain dropped?
mind=blown

Haha gotta love those trolls.

Pretty heavy on the terrans in my opinion. Those TvT from the semis on in both A and S really sucked.

On January 30 2011 08:14 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
And he's playing by far better than July_Zerg (in SC2, at the moment, don't hate me). Just watching the Up-Down matches of July made me cry. If he doesn't step up his game or just had a very, very bad time I can't see him advancing much further.


Yeah, July's games are painful to watch. Expectations are high of course, but come on, July, learn some early game stuff, use creep, make drones. You are the most recent golden mouse winner to play SC2, shove it up those nerds' asses!
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
January 29 2011 23:28 GMT
#50
Leenock is a very good, but not solid player. Loosing to rush builds twice in a row, especially on Jungle Basin with nearly a minute warning is really bad.

I think Leenock's style with fast infestors has quite a bit of merit, but his follow-up was less than stellar. I hope Nestea or Idra uses some of his build ideas and refines them into something awesome.

Did anybody stop to notice that there are two foreigners that got top-seeded? It's really sad that they don't get to play in the GSTL. I think both Idra's and Jinro's matches are fun to watch because of their playstyle.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 29 2011 23:59 GMT
#51
Sad to see Maka and Leenock fall down to Code A. Maka is capable of playing solidly and producing very entertaining games, and the same goes for Leenock. I think their demotion has more to do with their up-down groupings than their actual abilities.

I loved seeing Maka go mass Raven into mass orbitals into mass BCs in the Gisado KOTH. Leenock has convincingly taken games off of strong players like Clide, and I think he is definitely one of the stronger Zerg players out there even if he is not as solid as the top tier Zergs like FD, Idra, Nestea.

Hopefully, the second Code A tournament will have Leenock and Maka both be in the finals.
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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
January 30 2011 00:03 GMT
#52
So lol that Liveforever is still in code S.
xand
Profile Joined September 2010
United States65 Posts
January 30 2011 00:08 GMT
#53
I'm interested to see how MC does next tournament. Had Jinro been able to take his game in the 2nd group stage vs MKP it would have been a very different tournament.

It sucked for MC because he was looking good all the way up to the point when Jinro when mech, which noone else is doing, and MC still almost managed to take him out.

Have MC and MVP played recently I'd be interested to see that matchup
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
January 30 2011 00:10 GMT
#54
When are the Code B qualifiers for March? I was under the impression they were on Sunday. Which is like 12 hours from now? The offline qualifiers that Huk and Moonglade and Ret will all be taking part to get in Code A?
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 30 2011 00:11 GMT
#55
That said, I do think that MC is the only really capable Protoss of the bunch. I just don't see the likes of Tester/Genius/Inca beat people like MVP, MarineKing or even Nestea really...
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
January 30 2011 00:14 GMT
#56
Is the code A up&down starting today?
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
huyNh
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada366 Posts
January 30 2011 00:15 GMT
#57
they already played...
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SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
January 30 2011 00:18 GMT
#58
lol, Rain in Code A.... I fucking knew it hahhahaha
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Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
January 30 2011 00:20 GMT
#59
The only decent/solid Toss is MC and Inca. Genius lost all of my respect after his utter failure against Idra. Choya is useless, Tester played terribly, Banbanssu is the snarftoss, HongUnPrime is crap, anyproPrime honestly played decently against Moon but that was mainly Moon playing like shit than anyproPrime's skill. SadZenith is sad.

Zenio, IdrA and NesTea are really the only solid Zerg's left. I am a massive Check + Cool fanboy but they haven't been playing too well.

Everyone else is Terran.


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Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
January 30 2011 00:27 GMT
#60
On January 30 2011 09:10 SimDawg wrote:
When are the Code B qualifiers for March? I was under the impression they were on Sunday. Which is like 12 hours from now? The offline qualifiers that Huk and Moonglade and Ret will all be taking part to get in Code A?


They're supposed to begin at 10 AM Sunday, which is like a half hour from now.

Whether that actually means games begin or if that's just the deadline for showing up and getting placed into your brackets I do not know. Unfortunately I can't seem to find any current updates on these matches that should be starting very soon.
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Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
January 30 2011 00:28 GMT
#61
This could easily be a repeat of the last Code S tournament if they don't change up the damned maps. No good protosses except MC+NsPGeniuS. I could see MVP going deep again, maybe even repeating (although that would be a stretch). I play Terran and we need some diversity here. Maybe I'll cheer for Cool this season, but I doubt he'll bring his game like in S1, his winners cheque has allowed him to drink too much.

Also, rain is in Code A. I love it, death to 1 base allins.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
January 30 2011 00:31 GMT
#62
To bad Leenock dropped, though I think all the other players that dropped belong in code A
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
January 30 2011 00:34 GMT
#63
On January 30 2011 09:28 Boundless wrote:
This could easily be a repeat of the last Code S tournament if they don't change up the damned maps. No good protosses except MC+NsPGeniuS. I could see MVP going deep again, maybe even repeating (although that would be a stretch). I play Terran and we need some diversity here. Maybe I'll cheer for Cool this season, but I doubt he'll bring his game like in S1, his winners cheque has allowed him to drink too much.

Also, rain is in Code A. I love it, death to 1 base allins.


I would put Tester on the same level as Genius.

Both really good protosses who usually lose because of greedy play.
redeux
Profile Joined November 2010
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 00:35:52
January 30 2011 00:35 GMT
#64
On January 30 2011 07:55 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 07:53 Tritonus wrote:
If GLS continues to be this Terran heavy, expect impending doom.


My hopes is that, with the map pool change incoming, if becomes close to the 1/3 next time.


the map change still hasn't been officially announced though. I hope they take effect for GSL 5. As of now though, only the GSTL map pool changes have been officially announced.
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Akuemon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada151 Posts
January 30 2011 00:37 GMT
#65
Here's a list of team members if you want it. I just took it off liquidpedia so correct me if im wrong :p

4 prime
3 fou
2 IM
8 OG's
1 liquid
1 EG
6 ZeNex
3 TSL
2 ST
1 SlayerS
1 Fox
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
January 30 2011 00:38 GMT
#66
On January 30 2011 09:34 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 09:28 Boundless wrote:
This could easily be a repeat of the last Code S tournament if they don't change up the damned maps. No good protosses except MC+NsPGeniuS. I could see MVP going deep again, maybe even repeating (although that would be a stretch). I play Terran and we need some diversity here. Maybe I'll cheer for Cool this season, but I doubt he'll bring his game like in S1, his winners cheque has allowed him to drink too much.

Also, rain is in Code A. I love it, death to 1 base allins.


I would put Tester on the same level as Genius.

Both really good protosses who usually lose because of greedy play.

Oh yeah, thats' true. I didn't even notice him in there because I was looking for the name TSL.Trickster.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 30 2011 00:43 GMT
#67
On January 30 2011 09:35 GetGood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 07:55 Zephirdd wrote:
On January 30 2011 07:53 Tritonus wrote:
If GLS continues to be this Terran heavy, expect impending doom.


My hopes is that, with the map pool change incoming, if becomes close to the 1/3 next time.


the map change still hasn't been officially announced though. I hope they take effect for GSL 5. As of now though, only the GSTL map pool changes have been officially announced.

Hopefully, the GSTL map pool change will be the final test of their new maps before implementing them for the next GSL. It would be a shame if after all this testing on GSTL and the Gisado stream, the maps don't end up making the cut. However, I think GOM has too much to lose from not changing up their map pool.
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Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
January 30 2011 00:54 GMT
#68
Rain in code a, deserved, who didnt was leenock tho. that kid is good!
BoxeR, HuK, IdrA, Minigun, MVP <3
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
January 30 2011 01:00 GMT
#69
On January 30 2011 09:54 Dezire wrote:
Rain in code a, deserved, who didnt was leenock tho. that kid is good!


Leenock totally deserved his losses, though. He played ludicrously greedy, and lost to a-moved marines due to forgetting to make any units at all.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
January 30 2011 01:25 GMT
#70
Ah rain dropped that's nice I look forward to march gsl :D
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revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
January 30 2011 01:29 GMT
#71
On January 30 2011 05:28 Zephirdd wrote:
What. Rain. what. wait. second. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.

FruitDealer is still in but Rain dropped?
mind=blown


IdrA had forseen this. (in the most recent interview with Artosis b4 GSL4 started iirc)
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doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
January 30 2011 01:42 GMT
#72
On January 30 2011 07:27 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 06:22 doffe wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:15 Alphaes wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:06 doffe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MKP will probably be forced to switch up his style now, atleast TvT since I guess everyone will try to copy MVPs style against him wich completly slaughtered him




+ Show Spoiler +
Well, the thing is, MKP didn't really play MKP-style in the finals (outside the failed base-races I guess). In fact, I would even say that MVP played more MKP-like with his unit makeup and such





+ Show Spoiler +
Didnt he play more or less his normal style on blistering, meta and xel naga? Maybe his factory---> starport was a bit earlier then normal but the midgame plan seemed to be the same as it usually is? Correct me if Im wrong.


+ Show Spoiler +
the point is that MVP copied MKP's style of play, implying MKP's style is solid and not a gimmick that can be countered


+ Show Spoiler +
SPOILERTAGS!

How did he copy MKPs style? Sure I dont remember exactly how the games went and I missed most of the game on scrap in wich I understand he sort of copied it but the rest? He incorporated tanks pretty early on in all 3 games wich is in my opinion not copying MKPs style. It is pretty late in the game before you see MKP getting tanks and I have seldom or rather never seen him use them in a timing push.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 30 2011 01:48 GMT
#73
On January 30 2011 10:42 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 07:27 jalstar wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:22 doffe wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:15 Alphaes wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:06 doffe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MKP will probably be forced to switch up his style now, atleast TvT since I guess everyone will try to copy MVPs style against him wich completly slaughtered him




+ Show Spoiler +
Well, the thing is, MKP didn't really play MKP-style in the finals (outside the failed base-races I guess). In fact, I would even say that MVP played more MKP-like with his unit makeup and such





+ Show Spoiler +
Didnt he play more or less his normal style on blistering, meta and xel naga? Maybe his factory---> starport was a bit earlier then normal but the midgame plan seemed to be the same as it usually is? Correct me if Im wrong.


+ Show Spoiler +
the point is that MVP copied MKP's style of play, implying MKP's style is solid and not a gimmick that can be countered


+ Show Spoiler +
SPOILERTAGS!

How did he copy MKPs style? Sure I dont remember exactly how the games went and I missed most of the game on scrap in wich I understand he sort of copied it but the rest? He incorporated tanks pretty early on in all 3 games wich is in my opinion not copying MKPs style. It is pretty late in the game before you see MKP getting tanks and I have seldom or rather never seen him use them in a timing push.

+ Show Spoiler +
Well, MVP went for an aggressive one-base, multiple barracks, pure marine aggressive push against MKP during many of the games, which is something many people thought would come out of MKP instead. People equate MKP with an aggressive, marine-heavy style, yet in the Code S finals MVP outproduced marines and was more aggressive than MKP, which was ironic considering MarineKing was dethroned as the king of aggressive marine play.
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Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
January 30 2011 01:57 GMT
#74
stop fucking bashing rain. He did some 1base all ins vs nestea but he then showed he is not only 1base all ins but an extremely solid player. Just watch MC vs Rain game 2 of GSL3 Finals.

Also, you are arguing the march season will be the same as January because there are no other players at + Show Spoiler [GSL4 Finals] +
IMMvp's level
Thats. not. a. race. issue.
He is an extremely good player and he didn't win because he is Terran.
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Moragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States355 Posts
January 30 2011 02:01 GMT
#75
On January 30 2011 05:39 Geo.Rion wrote:
it's so strange there are as many Zergs as Protosses


Strange in what way? Zerg has won more finals and made if farther in 3 out of 4 GSL's than Protoss. What's strange is that there arent as many Zergs as Protoss.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 30 2011 02:02 GMT
#76
i still cant believe liveforever and sanzenith are still in code s while players like maka, leenock or rain have dropped down. but with polt, jookto and legalmind, there have been 3 ppl demoted who werent s-code worthy imho, and 5-6 worthy players got promoted. so all in all, the system seems to work. i still dont get how top could ever end up not being in code s anyway....
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
January 30 2011 02:09 GMT
#77
I hope Sangho practices and next times gets into Code S. Give liveforever a break. he took two seasons off to study and not to mention he got into the Round of 4 with having a pretty hard bracket.
Nestea and Makaprime. then loosing to FD.
ZerGuy
Profile Joined June 2008
Poland204 Posts
January 30 2011 02:18 GMT
#78
On January 30 2011 06:13 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 06:00 dsousa wrote:
Alot of TvT in our futures.... with 15/32 players being T.. that means 45% of the games will be TvT (all other things being equal)


it is entirly possibe however unlikely that we have 0 TvTs with 2 terrans in each group with them resulting in one going 1-1 and one 0-2 and not have to face eachother. From there it is once again possible for the same to occur in RO16 and no terrans being matched in RO8.

Just saying, you are not correct in saying 45% WILL be TvTs unless you already know the layout of the groups. Most likely lots will be but your statement is misleading.



I'm kinda interested in hearing how he counted it to be 45%...
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beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
January 30 2011 07:45 GMT
#79
On January 30 2011 11:18 ZerGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 06:13 doffe wrote:
On January 30 2011 06:00 dsousa wrote:
Alot of TvT in our futures.... with 15/32 players being T.. that means 45% of the games will be TvT (all other things being equal)


it is entirly possibe however unlikely that we have 0 TvTs with 2 terrans in each group with them resulting in one going 1-1 and one 0-2 and not have to face eachother. From there it is once again possible for the same to occur in RO16 and no terrans being matched in RO8.

Just saying, you are not correct in saying 45% WILL be TvTs unless you already know the layout of the groups. Most likely lots will be but your statement is misleading.



I'm kinda interested in hearing how he counted it to be 45%...

assuming 45% of the players being terran results in 45% of the matches being tvt which they clearly wont be.
beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
February 03 2011 00:15 GMT
#80
updated
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
February 03 2011 00:17 GMT
#81
Jinro will sweep it confirmed
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Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
February 03 2011 00:22 GMT
#82
I am enormously happy that Polt moved back up. His result in dropping to code A was the only one that really surprised me in the up/down matches.
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