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The_Dark
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa222 Posts
January 25 2011 08:10 GMT
#1
GSTL is a team league and the match format is Ro8, First to win 4 games / Semifinal, First to win 4 games / Final, First to win 5 games.

Schedule:
Feb 7th: Ro8 Match 1, 2
Feb 8th: Ro8 Match 3, 4
Feb 9th: Semifinal Match 1, 2
Feb 10th: Final

Prize:
1st Place 10,000,000 KRW,
2nd Place 5,000,000 KRW

Format:
Each team selects 8 players and chooses the order of their players to compete. A player is able to achieve consecutive wins against the other team until he is defeated. When a player loses, next player from the team takes the place and selects the map.

8 participating team selection method:
Award points to the players participating in GSL of each month and select top 8 teams with most points.
Code S Player=1.6 points awarded / Code A Player=1 point awarded
We will update the list of team points.

Match Up
Ro8 Match 1: ST vs fOu
Ro8 Match 2: Prime vs TSL
Ro8 Match 3: oGs vs IM
Ro8 Match 4: ZeNEX vs SlayerS


http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors1/news/60315 Player lineup for GSTL is TBA.
Hakairyu
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore53 Posts
January 25 2011 08:14 GMT
#2
oGs vs IM in the Ro8? Are you kidding me? T_T

It'll be good to see the players SlayerS is going to field. Hoping for some good games. =)
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
January 25 2011 08:15 GMT
#3
why the hell isnt Liquid there?
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
January 25 2011 08:16 GMT
#4
Haha, oGs vs IM should be the finals....

papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
January 25 2011 08:17 GMT
#5
On January 25 2011 17:15 never_toss wrote:
why the hell isnt Liquid there?


I believe its because TL doesnt have enough points. The points are somehow calculated from the individual performances of the team members.
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
January 25 2011 08:17 GMT
#6
On January 25 2011 17:15 never_toss wrote:
why the hell isnt Liquid there?


Not enough liquid people in korea. maybe a oGs-Liquuid team? not sure
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 08:20:19
January 25 2011 08:18 GMT
#7
On January 25 2011 17:15 never_toss wrote:
why the hell isnt Liquid there?

Not enough points. They are taking the 9th spot.
They had 2.6 I believe and slayers was at 8th spot with 5.2 iirc.

Furthermore SlayerS is 1st in the zotac team invitational.
ZeNEX is 2nd so it's pretty crazy they're at it together in the first round. Should be exciting.

Edit:
Further clarification (Link).
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 25 2011 08:18 GMT
#8
On January 25 2011 17:17 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 17:15 never_toss wrote:
why the hell isnt Liquid there?


I believe its because TL doesnt have enough points. The points are somehow calculated from the individual performances of the team members.

It's number of players in Code S and Code A, with preference given to Code A.

I believe the Ro8 are by seed as well (oGs has 8 code S players, no Code A players, so they're first, and they play the 8th seed, 2nd seed plays 7th, etc.)
ABCZerg
Profile Joined December 2010
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 08:19:29
January 25 2011 08:19 GMT
#9
No liquid is trailing behind in 9th in terms of points from what I can recall.
*Edit: somebody beat me to it!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 25 2011 08:19 GMT
#10
On January 25 2011 17:17 deerpark87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 17:15 never_toss wrote:
why the hell isnt Liquid there?


Not enough liquid people in korea. maybe a oGs-Liquuid team? not sure


no its just oGs...liquid is considered as a separate team.
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
January 25 2011 10:23 GMT
#11
The GSTL is only 4 days long?

I thought the GSTL was it for February. Are we having the team league concurrent with Season 5, or do we really only get 4 days of Starcraft in February?
Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
January 25 2011 10:29 GMT
#12
Pretty powerfull line up there, hopefully all teams will bring their top players. Should be an awesome event
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 10:29:56
January 25 2011 10:29 GMT
#13
On January 25 2011 19:23 Ribbon wrote:
The GSTL is only 4 days long?

I thought the GSTL was it for February. Are we having the team league concurrent with Season 5, or do we really only get 4 days of Starcraft in February?

It's a week before GSL5 and it is 4 days of GSTL according to their schedule.
Remember that after the finals there will be Korean new years holliday according to their schedule so there will be 2 weeks in between the GSL season (4 and 5) in which the GSTL will be scheduled to play.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 10:31:04
January 25 2011 10:29 GMT
#14
please delete

the correct answer is one post ahead
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
January 25 2011 10:49 GMT
#15
bo15 per game? =/
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b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
January 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#16
On January 25 2011 19:49 GTR wrote:
bo15 per game? =/


It's BO7 until Finals which is BO9
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 25 2011 11:04 GMT
#17
gogo IM~ )
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Alizee-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States845 Posts
January 25 2011 11:34 GMT
#18
All I can say is hell its about time. Too many people playing this game to have something like just GSL for individual players, this is really healthy for things even its all koreans(at the moment I hope? :o)
Strength behind the Pride
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 11:42:52
January 25 2011 11:38 GMT
#19
On January 25 2011 19:29 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 19:23 Ribbon wrote:
The GSTL is only 4 days long?

I thought the GSTL was it for February. Are we having the team league concurrent with Season 5, or do we really only get 4 days of Starcraft in February?

It's a week before GSL5 and it is 4 days of GSTL according to their schedule.
Remember that after the finals there will be Korean new years holliday according to their schedule so there will be 2 weeks in between the GSL season (4 and 5) in which the GSTL will be scheduled to play.


So GSL season 5 starts around Valentine's Day? D'aww.

Too bad that makes the Team Liquid basically a side show for bragging rights, though.

Edit: Team LEAGUE a sideshow, I mean. Team LIQUID is obviously a manly team for manly dudes.
nastyyy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States262 Posts
January 25 2011 11:38 GMT
#20
IM vs. fOu finals, I reckon.
one time
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
January 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#21
IM will clean house if MVP/Nestea play up to their normal standard. No other player in any other team really comes close in terms of raw skill atm.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 11:42:37
January 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#22
On January 25 2011 17:16 papaz wrote:
Haha, oGs vs IM should be the finals....



Not really, IM have NesTea and MVP sure, but it's not like they have a particularly deep roster outside of that so if they underperform once they are in huge trouble. Think they are last in ZOTAC at the moment because neither of those guys are taking part.

This should be a fun event though, looking forward to it.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
January 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#23
No liquid? :/

i thought a new season for team league is supposed to be a fresh start so we can see players who are good but not in Code A/S yet.
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 25 2011 12:35 GMT
#24
Don't quite understand how the match-ups were determined, randomized I'm assuming?

If it was based on the rankings it would look more like this:

oGs vs SlayerS
Prime vs IM
ZeNex vs ST
TSL vs fOu

Which seems more balanced.
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
January 25 2011 12:35 GMT
#25
OGS vs IM... Unbelievable.
Quickly losing faith in Gom.
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
January 25 2011 14:06 GMT
#26
On January 25 2011 17:18 DystopiaX wrote:
It's number of players in Code S and Code A, with preference given to Code A.

I believe the Ro8 are by seed as well (oGs has 8 code S players, no Code A players, so they're first, and they play the 8th seed, 2nd seed plays 7th, etc.)


On January 25 2011 21:35 weaknurse wrote:
OGS vs IM... Unbelievable.
Quickly losing faith in Gom.


If above post is true it's not like GOM could help it.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
sdrawkcab_
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 16:04:07
January 25 2011 15:47 GMT
#27
I was just curious if it were possible for TL and EG to combine to participate in the team league? So basically Idra would play with the TL guys for the GSTL. If you intend to flame in answer to my question don't bother, it's just a question.

Edit: I am aware that they might not necessarily be eligeble for the competition.
Panicc
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany163 Posts
January 25 2011 15:53 GMT
#28
that should not be possible and would not be fair They are different teams after all and i think there should not be something like a foreigner advantage or "foreigner Team" And even then, there would still not enough players to be number 8 of all teams.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
January 25 2011 15:57 GMT
#29
TSL woohoo GOGO!
Life is Good.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
January 25 2011 15:58 GMT
#30
On January 26 2011 00:47 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
I was just curious if it were possible for TL and EG to combine to participate in the team league? So basically Idra would play with the TL guys for the GSTL. If you intend to flame in answer to my question don't bother, it's just a question.


could be a good idea to consolidate the foreign guys together.

We can add in torch in the fray too!
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
Scaipax
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands54 Posts
January 25 2011 16:01 GMT
#31
This may be a stupid question, but does it get commentated by Tastosis?
Truffy
Profile Joined May 2010
United States95 Posts
January 25 2011 16:01 GMT
#32
TSL fighting!
1a2a3a-->gg
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
January 25 2011 16:02 GMT
#33
Could the Gomtv Staff put up a team and compete as well, that would be so awesome (and it would force Junkka of his WoW addiction).

In all seriousness I think Team Incredible Miracle will win this pretty easy. Nestea and Mvp just are on a different level.
This is our town, scrub
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
January 25 2011 16:07 GMT
#34
So TL needs 1 more player in Code S and 2 in Code A?
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 16:17:47
January 25 2011 16:15 GMT
#35
I'm not pessimistic about Liquid not being in (they have to earn it obviously), but I'm probably not gonna watch it as long as they're not in.
However, I do also think that a team league shouldn't be dependent on individual results.
화이팅
riverkim09
Profile Joined November 2010
United States291 Posts
January 25 2011 16:21 GMT
#36
It will be either oGs or IM
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
January 25 2011 16:22 GMT
#37
On January 25 2011 21:35 weaknurse wrote:
OGS vs IM... Unbelievable.
Quickly losing faith in Gom.


What is the problem with that matchup ?
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
January 25 2011 16:26 GMT
#38
On January 26 2011 01:15 XsebT wrote:
I'm not pessimistic about Liquid not being in (they have to earn it obviously), but I'm probably not gonna watch it as long as they're not in.
However, I do also think that a team league shouldn't be dependent on individual results.


i agree, plus the fact that its the first season. everyone should be given a chance.
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 16:29:21
January 25 2011 16:28 GMT
#39
it is all kill format!

prime vs im finals
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 25 2011 16:32 GMT
#40
On January 26 2011 01:28 Heimatloser wrote:
it is all kill format!

prime vs im finals

GSTL has the chance of having more foreign teams in the GSTL due to the 4 invitees into code S.
HuK or another TL + qualifiers of TL could make them go up to 6th/7th place or at the least 8th.

So GOM is basically by having that 4invitee list making sure there are some foreign players representing their teams (if multiple from same team then the better) in the rankings that is close to top8 so we should be able to see foreign teams in the GSTL soon after few seasons or maybe next season.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 25 2011 16:35 GMT
#41
On January 26 2011 01:15 XsebT wrote:
I'm not pessimistic about Liquid not being in (they have to earn it obviously), but I'm probably not gonna watch it as long as they're not in.
However, I do also think that a team league shouldn't be dependent on individual results.


But given the format of this tournament (8 players/team), Liquid does not have enough players in Korea to compete. There's Jinro, Huk, Haypro, and Ret....unless I'm missing someone.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
January 25 2011 16:36 GMT
#42
On January 26 2011 01:32 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 01:28 Heimatloser wrote:
it is all kill format!

prime vs im finals

GSTL has the chance of having more foreign teams in the GSTL due to the 4 invitees into code S.
HuK or another TL + qualifiers of TL could make them go up to 6th/7th place or at the least 8th.

So GOM is basically by having that 4invitee list making sure there are some foreign players representing their teams (if multiple from same team then the better) in the rankings that is close to top8 so we should be able to see foreign teams in the GSTL soon after few seasons or maybe next season.


Dont know if you're right. Let's assume TL is able to get enough "points" how will they be able to meet the following requirement:
"Format: Each team selects 8 players"

TL only has Jinro, ret, Haypro, Huk down in Korea, right? Still 4 people missing.
So as long as there is no joint effort between the foreign teams (if it is allowed) I dont see how we might see foreigners participating in that team league any time soon.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
January 25 2011 16:47 GMT
#43
On January 25 2011 21:35 weaknurse wrote:
OGS vs IM... Unbelievable.
Quickly losing faith in Gom.


Why does you lose faith in GOM when it is decided randomly. Your losing faith in chance
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Prinate
Profile Joined October 2010
United States182 Posts
January 25 2011 16:54 GMT
#44
On January 26 2011 01:32 shannn wrote:
GSTL has the chance of having more foreign teams in the GSTL due to the 4 invitees into code S.
HuK or another TL + qualifiers of TL could make them go up to 6th/7th place or at the least 8th.

So GOM is basically by having that 4invitee list making sure there are some foreign players representing their teams (if multiple from same team then the better) in the rankings that is close to top8 so we should be able to see foreign teams in the GSTL soon after few seasons or maybe next season.


The GSL foreigner invites are Code A participants according to John's 1st post in the thread. Has Gom announced when the next GSTL would be after this first one in February? So much can change with each month's up/down and qualifiers that it's almost pointless to try and project.
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
January 25 2011 16:59 GMT
#45
How does the GSTL work as far as premium tickets are concerned? Is it separate for only four days of action, is it free, or is it somehow paired with either GSL4 or GSL5 ticket?

This may not be the place to ask and I may be better off asking at the GOM forums but if anyone knows I would appreciate it.
This space for rent.
Prinate
Profile Joined October 2010
United States182 Posts
January 25 2011 17:02 GMT
#46
On January 26 2011 01:36 Zocat wrote:

Dont know if you're right. Let's assume TL is able to get enough "points" how will they be able to meet the following requirement:
"Format: Each team selects 8 players"

TL only has Jinro, ret, Haypro, Huk down in Korea, right? Still 4 people missing.
So as long as there is no joint effort between the foreign teams (if it is allowed) I dont see how we might see foreigners participating in that team league any time soon.


I don't understand why Gom would require 8 players. I wonder if it's a mistranslation or just miscommunication. If the final, the longest round, is essentially a BO9, then at most a team would only need 5 players. You can only lose 5 times (4 in the early rounds) then why the extra players?

Maybe they want 8 to ensure a team has back ups and will always have a full roster ready?

I imagine it'd be an important thing for Gom to explain, because it wouldn't be unreasonable for a team like Liquid (if they qualified) to fly out their 5th team member if they only need 5.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
January 25 2011 17:22 GMT
#47
I'd like to see liquid play for ogs a couple games since they don't have enough point wise to compete, maybe we'll see that. Also is this team league similar to those bw matches that are listed in tournaments as for example [swl] khan vs fox. I seen some and they look like teams but i'm not sure if its something else entirely.
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
January 25 2011 17:33 GMT
#48
Whats the point of having 8 players in a team when its practically best of 7? Only 4 players get to play. I mean, a team can just always let the best 4 players of their team play while the rest just sits and watch.... unless its 4 players in 1 round and other 4 another next round no matter what?
Rosvall
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden122 Posts
January 25 2011 18:19 GMT
#49
On January 26 2011 02:33 DreamRaider wrote:
Whats the point of having 8 players in a team when its practically best of 7? Only 4 players get to play. I mean, a team can just always let the best 4 players of their team play while the rest just sits and watch.... unless its 4 players in 1 round and other 4 another next round no matter what?


Well, f.ex if you know you'll be playing OZ you're going to want to try play your best vZ versus Jaedong even though he's not top 4 in the team.
RTP
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
January 25 2011 18:22 GMT
#50
On January 26 2011 03:19 Rosvall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 02:33 DreamRaider wrote:
Whats the point of having 8 players in a team when its practically best of 7? Only 4 players get to play. I mean, a team can just always let the best 4 players of their team play while the rest just sits and watch.... unless its 4 players in 1 round and other 4 another next round no matter what?


Well, f.ex if you know you'll be playing OZ you're going to want to try play your best vZ versus Jaedong even though he's not top 4 in the team.


Yea but the arrangement is set in a roster order according to the rules? Its not like you can change your lineup just to counter them.
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
January 25 2011 18:27 GMT
#51
I wonder if TL will field some Korean players for them to be in this.
The_Dark
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa222 Posts
January 26 2011 07:10 GMT
#52
pretty amped for this non the less, not often you get to see sc2 teams battle it out.
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
January 28 2011 16:37 GMT
#53
GOM page is up, you can purchase premium tickets now for $5. Note that this will only run for 4 days so it's significantly less games then GSL. Still a great value IMO -- I insta-purchased the ticket.

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60476


GSTL page is now open!

Following GSL January, GSTL will start on Feb 7th.
GSTL (Global Starcraft II Team League) is a team tournament featuring top 8 SC2 teams from GSL and will run from Feb 7th to Feb 10th.

We opened the page to allow our members to find our more about the league via news and updates before the league starts.
Members will also be able to communicate through our forum and purchase the ticket.

The ticket price for the league has been reduced to $4.99 so do not miss the fierce team battles that will decide the best SC2 team in the world!
You can purchase your ticket here: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstls1/premiumzone/Service.php

Please continue to show your interest and support for GSTL as well.

Thank you.

MarineKingPrime Forever!
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
January 29 2011 00:24 GMT
#54
$5 isn't a whole lot of money to pay for, despite how it pales in comparison with the GSL ticket's value.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
January 29 2011 00:28 GMT
#55
Woo, for 5$ I'm definitely getting it. Kinda like a little bonus season, I like it.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 00:44:42
January 29 2011 00:38 GMT
#56
On January 26 2011 01:47 QTIP. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 21:35 weaknurse wrote:
OGS vs IM... Unbelievable.
Quickly losing faith in Gom.


Why do you lose faith in GOM when it is decided randomly. You're losing faith in chance


because they should have seeded the teams based on individual players' results AND code s+code a point accumulation.

they decided to do it randomly which is completely retarded and then some given the play format they chose (i.e.where a team having 2 players like mvp+nestea and 6 random players from the streets is possibly stronger and has more of a shot at the title than a team with 8 solid but not genius players)

what we got here essentially is what putting federer vs. nadal in the ro64 of a tennis grand slam tourney would bring about for the fans/organisers/broadcasters.

why the fuck would i, or most anyone without a ton of time to spare, want to watch this further than the ogs vs. im match when you got one of zenex/slayers guaranteed to go through and one of ogs/im guaranteed to drop out

at least it's cheap so you can watch vods for eventual upsets / surprises

(edit: they can do random once they get it off the ground and stir up some interest, they could've called this 'inaugural' blah-blah and seeded in accordance to the reality of the individual players' current skill levels for an epic league starter, god damn, use some marketing brain power ffs)
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 00:58:02
January 29 2011 00:57 GMT
#57
On January 29 2011 09:38 anatem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 01:47 QTIP. wrote:
On January 25 2011 21:35 weaknurse wrote:
OGS vs IM... Unbelievable.
Quickly losing faith in Gom.


Why do you lose faith in GOM when it is decided randomly. You're losing faith in chance


because they should have seeded the teams based on individual players' results AND code s+code a point accumulation.

they decided to do it randomly which is completely retarded and then some given the play format they chose (i.e.where a team having 2 players like mvp+nestea and 6 random players from the streets is possibly stronger and has more of a shot at the title than a team with 8 solid but not genius players)

what we got here essentially is what putting federer vs. nadal in the ro64 of a tennis grand slam tourney would bring about for the fans/organisers/broadcasters.

why the fuck would i, or most anyone without a ton of time to spare, want to watch this further than the ogs vs. im match when you got one of zenex/slayers guaranteed to go through and one of ogs/im guaranteed to drop out

at least it's cheap so you can watch vods for eventual upsets / surprises

(edit: they can do random once they get it off the ground and stir up some interest, they could've called this 'inaugural' blah-blah and seeded in accordance to the reality of the individual players' current skill levels for an epic league starter, god damn, use some marketing brain power ffs)

Just before you go totally crazy, both oGs-TL and IM missed the playoffs in the Zotac Team Invitational and SlayerS and ZenEX were the #2 and #3 finishing teams in the regular season. so it's far to early to say that ogs and im are in a class of their own. In fact SlayerS beat IM and oGs, and ZeNEX crushed oGs and IM, with (P)Puzzle all-killing them both.
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EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
January 29 2011 01:07 GMT
#58
On January 29 2011 09:57 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 09:38 anatem wrote:
On January 26 2011 01:47 QTIP. wrote:
On January 25 2011 21:35 weaknurse wrote:
OGS vs IM... Unbelievable.
Quickly losing faith in Gom.


Why do you lose faith in GOM when it is decided randomly. You're losing faith in chance


because they should have seeded the teams based on individual players' results AND code s+code a point accumulation.

they decided to do it randomly which is completely retarded and then some given the play format they chose (i.e.where a team having 2 players like mvp+nestea and 6 random players from the streets is possibly stronger and has more of a shot at the title than a team with 8 solid but not genius players)

what we got here essentially is what putting federer vs. nadal in the ro64 of a tennis grand slam tourney would bring about for the fans/organisers/broadcasters.

why the fuck would i, or most anyone without a ton of time to spare, want to watch this further than the ogs vs. im match when you got one of zenex/slayers guaranteed to go through and one of ogs/im guaranteed to drop out

at least it's cheap so you can watch vods for eventual upsets / surprises

(edit: they can do random once they get it off the ground and stir up some interest, they could've called this 'inaugural' blah-blah and seeded in accordance to the reality of the individual players' current skill levels for an epic league starter, god damn, use some marketing brain power ffs)

Just before you go totally crazy, both oGs-TL and IM missed the playoffs in the Zotac Team Invitational and SlayerS and ZenEX were the #2 and #3 finishing teams in the regular season. so it's far to early to say that ogs and im are in a class of their own. In fact SlayerS beat IM and oGs, and ZeNEX crushed oGs and IM, with (P)Puzzle all-killing them both.


Nice point you have made there. We shouldn't underestimate the seemingly weaker teams, they could have very good players too, but are just underrated at the moment because of their lack of showings in tournaments like the GSL.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
January 29 2011 01:13 GMT
#59
On January 26 2011 01:22 ChApFoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 21:35 weaknurse wrote:
OGS vs IM... Unbelievable.
Quickly losing faith in Gom.


What is the problem with that matchup ?


Yeah... They are ranked by points. oGs is 1st IM is 8th... IM only has 2 S class players and 2 A class players. It's the most fair way to do it, so stop complaining.
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Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
January 29 2011 01:14 GMT
#60
why is it bracket style and not a league
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 01:14:56
January 29 2011 01:14 GMT
#61
I can't imagine a team with both MVP and NesTea (I think MVP's the only Terran he can't beat) losing in this. o.O

It's like if Jaedong joined KT for SWL...haha
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 29 2011 01:18 GMT
#62
On January 29 2011 10:14 mierin wrote:
I can't imagine a team with both MVP and NesTea (I think MVP's the only Terran he can't beat) losing in this. o.O

It's like if Jaedong joined KT for SWL...haha


MC and MKP can definetly beat both of them in a Bo1...
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
January 29 2011 01:19 GMT
#63
On January 29 2011 10:14 GobIin wrote:
why is it bracket style and not a league

This indeed. Why are they trying to cram all of these matches into 4 days? I feel like a league format is way better than just randomly selected brackets.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
January 29 2011 01:37 GMT
#64
On January 29 2011 01:37 KillerDucky wrote:
GOM page is up, you can purchase premium tickets now for $5. Note that this will only run for 4 days so it's significantly less games then GSL. Still a great value IMO -- I insta-purchased the ticket.

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60476

Show nested quote +

GSTL page is now open!

Following GSL January, GSTL will start on Feb 7th.
GSTL (Global Starcraft II Team League) is a team tournament featuring top 8 SC2 teams from GSL and will run from Feb 7th to Feb 10th.

We opened the page to allow our members to find our more about the league via news and updates before the league starts.
Members will also be able to communicate through our forum and purchase the ticket.

The ticket price for the league has been reduced to $4.99 so do not miss the fierce team battles that will decide the best SC2 team in the world!
You can purchase your ticket here: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstls1/premiumzone/Service.php

Please continue to show your interest and support for GSTL as well.

Thank you.



Do you have a running GomTV subscription?
For me it says 9.95$ on this site.
Also - any news about the language? Will there be English commentators? I cannot find that information on the site.
The earlier Team-GSLs were Korean only & free. So I dont know if I'll have to pay 10$ for Korean commentators.


Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
January 29 2011 01:40 GMT
#65
Rooting for TSL. GOGO!
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Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
January 29 2011 01:43 GMT
#66
On January 29 2011 10:37 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 01:37 KillerDucky wrote:
GOM page is up, you can purchase premium tickets now for $5. Note that this will only run for 4 days so it's significantly less games then GSL. Still a great value IMO -- I insta-purchased the ticket.

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60476


GSTL page is now open!

Following GSL January, GSTL will start on Feb 7th.
GSTL (Global Starcraft II Team League) is a team tournament featuring top 8 SC2 teams from GSL and will run from Feb 7th to Feb 10th.

We opened the page to allow our members to find our more about the league via news and updates before the league starts.
Members will also be able to communicate through our forum and purchase the ticket.

The ticket price for the league has been reduced to $4.99 so do not miss the fierce team battles that will decide the best SC2 team in the world!
You can purchase your ticket here: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstls1/premiumzone/Service.php

Please continue to show your interest and support for GSTL as well.

Thank you.



Do you have a running GomTV subscription?
For me it says 9.95$ on this site.
Also - any news about the language? Will there be English commentators? I cannot find that information on the site.
The earlier Team-GSLs were Korean only & free. So I dont know if I'll have to pay 10$ for Korean commentators.




I think there will be English commentators as weren't they recently hiring English commentators? Thought I saw a thread about it a little while ago.

I just really can't wait for the day SC2 gets it's own proleague to watch every night. Watching teams face off in an LAN type format is just the best type of Starcraft to me, aside from tournament finals.
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Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
January 29 2011 01:52 GMT
#67
Rooting for TSL, but could definitely see IM winning with both MVP and Nestea as very capable of all-killing. On the flip side, if upsets occur against them, IM could easily lose. Also, with oGs's depth and players who can pull of multiple kills, I see them going very far.
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KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
January 29 2011 01:54 GMT
#68
On January 29 2011 10:37 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 01:37 KillerDucky wrote:
GOM page is up, you can purchase premium tickets now for $5. Note that this will only run for 4 days so it's significantly less games then GSL. Still a great value IMO -- I insta-purchased the ticket.

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60476


GSTL page is now open!

Following GSL January, GSTL will start on Feb 7th.
GSTL (Global Starcraft II Team League) is a team tournament featuring top 8 SC2 teams from GSL and will run from Feb 7th to Feb 10th.

We opened the page to allow our members to find our more about the league via news and updates before the league starts.
Members will also be able to communicate through our forum and purchase the ticket.

The ticket price for the league has been reduced to $4.99 so do not miss the fierce team battles that will decide the best SC2 team in the world!
You can purchase your ticket here: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstls1/premiumzone/Service.php

Please continue to show your interest and support for GSTL as well.

Thank you.



Do you have a running GomTV subscription?
For me it says 9.95$ on this site.
Also - any news about the language? Will there be English commentators? I cannot find that information on the site.
The earlier Team-GSLs were Korean only & free. So I dont know if I'll have to pay 10$ for Korean commentators.


Yes I have a subscription for previous seasons so maybe the price is different based on that. I'm assuming it will Artosis and Tasteless since they're asking for money.
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Zman
Profile Joined January 2011
31 Posts
January 29 2011 02:21 GMT
#69
On January 29 2011 10:37 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 01:37 KillerDucky wrote:
GOM page is up, you can purchase premium tickets now for $5. Note that this will only run for 4 days so it's significantly less games then GSL. Still a great value IMO -- I insta-purchased the ticket.

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60476


GSTL page is now open!

Following GSL January, GSTL will start on Feb 7th.
GSTL (Global Starcraft II Team League) is a team tournament featuring top 8 SC2 teams from GSL and will run from Feb 7th to Feb 10th.

We opened the page to allow our members to find our more about the league via news and updates before the league starts.
Members will also be able to communicate through our forum and purchase the ticket.

The ticket price for the league has been reduced to $4.99 so do not miss the fierce team battles that will decide the best SC2 team in the world!
You can purchase your ticket here: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstls1/premiumzone/Service.php

Please continue to show your interest and support for GSTL as well.

Thank you.



Do you have a running GomTV subscription?
For me it says 9.95$ on this site.
Also - any news about the language? Will there be English commentators? I cannot find that information on the site.
The earlier Team-GSLs were Korean only & free. So I dont know if I'll have to pay 10$ for Korean commentators.




link is suppose to be http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/premiumzone/
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
January 29 2011 07:20 GMT
#70
On January 29 2011 11:21 Zman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 10:37 Zocat wrote:
On January 29 2011 01:37 KillerDucky wrote:
GOM page is up, you can purchase premium tickets now for $5. Note that this will only run for 4 days so it's significantly less games then GSL. Still a great value IMO -- I insta-purchased the ticket.

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60476


GSTL page is now open!

Following GSL January, GSTL will start on Feb 7th.
GSTL (Global Starcraft II Team League) is a team tournament featuring top 8 SC2 teams from GSL and will run from Feb 7th to Feb 10th.

We opened the page to allow our members to find our more about the league via news and updates before the league starts.
Members will also be able to communicate through our forum and purchase the ticket.

The ticket price for the league has been reduced to $4.99 so do not miss the fierce team battles that will decide the best SC2 team in the world!
You can purchase your ticket here: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstls1/premiumzone/Service.php

Please continue to show your interest and support for GSTL as well.

Thank you.



Do you have a running GomTV subscription?
For me it says 9.95$ on this site.
Also - any news about the language? Will there be English commentators? I cannot find that information on the site.
The earlier Team-GSLs were Korean only & free. So I dont know if I'll have to pay 10$ for Korean commentators.




link is suppose to be http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/premiumzone/


Ah thanks
zolari
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 07:52:15
January 29 2011 07:51 GMT
#71
Why do I get the feeling that the winner of oGs vs IM is just gonna ROFLstomp through the rest of the teams and win?

I mean the other teams arent bad, its just that IM got MVP and oGs got MC...
nexitustl1
Profile Joined December 2010
156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 07:53:51
January 29 2011 07:52 GMT
#72
its a bummer that we wont see a liquid team quite yet but you know it'll come in the future ,cant wait! im so excited to see just these teams alone so down the line its just goin to be so crazy fun especially a team EG?! XD crossing my fingers all day every day
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 29 2011 07:52 GMT
#73
is the teamleague the only gsl tournament in february?
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 29 2011 07:52 GMT
#74
On January 29 2011 16:51 zolari wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that the winner of oGs vs IM is just gonna ROFLstomp through the rest of the teams and win?

Well, IM for example doesn't have much depth past NesTea and MVP - those 2 are great, but if they get beaten they don't have anyone reliable who can close out the series.
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TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
January 29 2011 07:55 GMT
#75
I'm gonna wait for official confirmation on whether or not there will be english commentary before I get a ticket. Nice that they're only $5 though.
zolari
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway23 Posts
January 29 2011 07:55 GMT
#76
On January 29 2011 16:52 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 16:51 zolari wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that the winner of oGs vs IM is just gonna ROFLstomp through the rest of the teams and win?

Well, IM for example doesn't have much depth past NesTea and MVP - those 2 are great, but if they get beaten they don't have anyone reliable who can close out the series.


Yeah kinda true, but still. Just having MVP and NesTea there could give several by them alone.
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
January 29 2011 07:57 GMT
#77
On January 29 2011 16:51 zolari wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that the winner of oGs vs IM is just gonna ROFLstomp through the rest of the teams and win?

I mean the other teams arent bad, its just that IM got MVP and oGs got MC...


oGs is deep, but frankly I don't think IM has a strong team beyond MVP and NesTea... can you even name anyone other than them on IM?
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
January 29 2011 07:58 GMT
#78
its a team all kill tournament, first to 4 kills? how can a team choose 8 players then?
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
January 29 2011 07:58 GMT
#79
On January 29 2011 16:55 TedJustice wrote:
I'm gonna wait for official confirmation on whether or not there will be english commentary before I get a ticket. Nice that they're only $5 though.


Same. I posted in the GSTL forums for clarification... awaiting reply. I sure hope we get some Tastosis coverage for this one!!
Semipsyc
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)123 Posts
January 29 2011 08:00 GMT
#80
On January 29 2011 16:57 Reason.SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 16:51 zolari wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that the winner of oGs vs IM is just gonna ROFLstomp through the rest of the teams and win?

I mean the other teams arent bad, its just that IM got MVP and oGs got MC...


oGs is deep, but frankly I don't think IM has a strong team beyond MVP and NesTea... can you even name anyone other than them on IM?


Junwi and Losira are the only ones I can think of. I still remember Losira was damn impressive in his GSL S1 match when he lost...just nvr qualified again :/
Funny he's usually around the top in the KR ladder
GeneticToss
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada188 Posts
January 29 2011 08:00 GMT
#81
On January 29 2011 16:58 Kokujin wrote:
its a team all kill tournament, first to 4 kills? how can a team choose 8 players then?

They need backups, I guess. And that would make sense to me, can't have only 4 players when anyone of them can get sick or hurt or something at any point in time.
nFo on KGS
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
January 29 2011 08:02 GMT
#82
Tell me, who is going to beat IMMVP?
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
January 29 2011 08:03 GMT
#83
I wanna see Boxer lead SlayerS to great victory. I wish that liquid could compete, though, and to a lesser extent EG.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
January 29 2011 08:07 GMT
#84
On January 29 2011 17:02 Airship wrote:
Tell me, who is going to beat IMMVP?


some Protoss player. MVP 3-0ed Tester though. so I guess our hopes rest on MC to take down MVP.
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Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 29 2011 08:25 GMT
#85
Looking forward to the seeing the lineups. And ofcourse, seeing the new maps in action.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 29 2011 08:28 GMT
#86
On January 29 2011 17:02 Airship wrote:
Tell me, who is going to beat IMMVP?


Believe it or not, MVP lost to ZenexPuzzle in the Zotac tourney a couple days ago. Granted, MVP was probably focusing all his practice time on TvT in preparation for the GSL final against marineking. Still, if there's one matchup where MVP might fall it would be TvP.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
January 29 2011 08:34 GMT
#87
On January 29 2011 17:28 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 17:02 Airship wrote:
Tell me, who is going to beat IMMVP?


Believe it or not, MVP lost to ZenexPuzzle in the Zotac tourney a couple days ago.


Indeed, actually the interesting thing about this TL is that we should get to see a number of interesting players who haven't yet qualified for the GSL in action. Some of the ZOTAC results were an eye opener.
politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
January 29 2011 08:38 GMT
#88
There's quite a few very good players who haven't entered gsl yet. I wouldn't be surprised if code A qualifications is more competitive than the actual code a this season.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
January 29 2011 08:44 GMT
#89
On January 29 2011 17:02 Airship wrote:
Tell me, who is going to beat IMMVP?


oGsMC
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
January 29 2011 08:46 GMT
#90
On January 29 2011 17:02 Airship wrote:
Tell me, who is going to beat IMMVP?


TSL_Uniden

He has been training extra hard.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
January 29 2011 10:09 GMT
#91
I agree on MC being the last hope. MVP's weakest matchup seems to be TvP and MC is the best Protoss has to offer.
CarlyZerg
Profile Joined December 2010
United States113 Posts
January 29 2011 10:33 GMT
#92
how much $$ is that in American?
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 29 2011 10:49 GMT
#93
I WANNA see TeamLiquid there.
Funny stuff.
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DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
January 29 2011 10:52 GMT
#94
wait so its a bracket match up?
i thought it would be like SWL in bw
Skytalker
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden671 Posts
January 29 2011 11:06 GMT
#95
is it gonna be casted by tastosis?
Jaedong HWAITING!
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
January 29 2011 11:12 GMT
#96
On January 29 2011 20:06 Skytalker wrote:
is it gonna be casted by tastosis?


I assume so. GOM was recruiting new english stream casters, but I thought it'd be for Code A only.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
January 29 2011 11:17 GMT
#97
On January 29 2011 19:33 CarlyZerg wrote:
how much $$ is that in American?


Here you go bro http://lmgtfy.com/?q=10,000,000 won to USD
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
January 29 2011 11:51 GMT
#98
On January 29 2011 17:02 Airship wrote:
Tell me, who is going to beat IMMVP?


Anything can happen in a bo1.
Tonttu
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland606 Posts
January 29 2011 11:56 GMT
#99
I don't like this format for team league. I'd like to have them playing against all other teams, so it makes 7 for each and in the end team with most wins takes it all.
Now there's like 1-3 matches for each team

Imo elimination format won't work for team league of 8 teams.

Hope Liquid guys make good work in Code A and Code S in the future so we'd see them in the GSTL
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amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
January 29 2011 12:04 GMT
#100
On January 29 2011 17:02 Airship wrote:
Tell me, who is going to beat IMMVP?

Windows Fatal Error has occured.
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Joysick
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
January 29 2011 17:03 GMT
#101
Prime and oGs have the most solid players aside from just there one or two superstars.
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
January 29 2011 17:05 GMT
#102
On January 30 2011 02:03 Joysick wrote:
Prime and oGs have the most solid players aside from just there one or two superstars.

In an all-kill format though it's the superstars that matter.
Sahand
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom114 Posts
January 29 2011 17:07 GMT
#103
i think its really cool how gsl do all these sub leagues as well as the seasonals
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 29 2011 17:10 GMT
#104
MVP and Nestea are going to dominate this
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CrazyCow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States308 Posts
January 29 2011 17:12 GMT
#105
Zenex vs Slayers appears to be the weak first round, oGs vs. IM is a battle of titans.

My predictions:
fOu > ST
TSL > Prime
IM > oGs
SlayerS > ZeNEX
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 17:15:21
January 29 2011 17:14 GMT
#106
While IMMvP might seem to be invincible, I remind you that MvP lost to choyafOu in GSL 3 Ro16. Yes, that choyafOu.

I'm just pointing out that anything can happen
Grease
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States138 Posts
January 29 2011 17:47 GMT
#107
I think OGS/TL is a team.. or they are allowing them to have a team because of the living arrangements i believe.
SHIT HAPPENS
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 17:55:44
January 29 2011 17:54 GMT
#108
On January 30 2011 02:47 Grease wrote:
I think OGS/TL is a team.. or they are allowing them to have a team because of the living arrangements i believe.


They aren't if you check the link in the original post you will see that there is indeed a teamliquid standing in 9th place due to point distribution. If say Ret, Jinro and Huk make it in Code A/ Code S they will still be short in points to be able to pass the Slayers team for 8th spot. But they don't really have all the players needed to be able to play since you need a 8 player roster. And Teamliquid has like 8 players in total.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 29 2011 17:57 GMT
#109
On January 30 2011 02:12 CrazyCow wrote:
Zenex vs Slayers appears to be the weak first round, oGs vs. IM is a battle of titans.

My predictions:
fOu > ST
TSL > Prime
IM > oGs
SlayerS > ZeNEX

This says you're wrong about slayers and zenex.

Final Standings of ZOTAC Team invitational:
+ Show Spoiler +
  1. STARTALE 6-2 (+8)
  2. ZeNEX 5-3 (+7)
  3. SlayerS 5-3 (+2)
  4. TSL 4-4 (+1)
    -----------------------
  5. oGs-TL 4-4 (+-0)
  6. fOu 4-4 (-1)
  7. MvP 3-5 (-1)
  8. Prime.WE 3-5 (-5)
  9. IM 2-6 (-11)

Warnings:
TSL: 2
IM: 1
fOu: 1

But the star players of most teams didn't play every round of course.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Grease
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States138 Posts
January 29 2011 18:00 GMT
#110
On January 30 2011 02:54 NPF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:47 Grease wrote:
I think OGS/TL is a team.. or they are allowing them to have a team because of the living arrangements i believe.


They aren't if you check the link in the original post you will see that there is indeed a teamliquid standing in 9th place due to point distribution. If say Ret, Jinro and Huk make it in Code A/ Code S they will still be short in points to be able to pass the Slayers team for 8th spot. But they don't really have all the players needed to be able to play since you need a 8 player roster. And Teamliquid has like 8 players in total.



ahh well thank you for clarifying :-)
SHIT HAPPENS
FrostyTreats
Profile Joined January 2011
United States355 Posts
January 29 2011 18:01 GMT
#111
wow only $5 now.. thats actually very good
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 29 2011 18:14 GMT
#112
IMMVP + IMNesTea... arguably the best 2 players right now in the same team, IM could throw MVP to get 4 all-kills and get the league instantly D:
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
January 29 2011 18:24 GMT
#113
On January 30 2011 03:01 FrostyTreats wrote:
wow only $5 now.. thats actually very good


Remember, it's 4 days vs the usual month. Better than that 50 they started off with though lol
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
January 29 2011 18:38 GMT
#114
On January 30 2011 02:05 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:03 Joysick wrote:
Prime and oGs have the most solid players aside from just there one or two superstars.

In an all-kill format though it's the superstars that matter.


I agree with this. Anything can happen though, as the Zotac invitational showed. I hope Puzzle turns out to be as much of a baller as that allkill reveals~
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Ever-Long
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:46:43
January 29 2011 18:43 GMT
#115
IMO whoever wins between IM and OGS will win it. Just because there are no player that can play at the level of best players in either teams at this point. (Nestea, MvP, MC, maybe Nada) Rest of the teams may have 1 player per team that could take a game or two from them.

What I'm saying is, it's hard pressed to come up with a list of player that can challenge these guys.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:57:31
January 29 2011 18:57 GMT
#116
On January 30 2011 03:43 Ever-Long wrote:
IMO whoever wins between IM and OGS will win it. Just because there are no player that can play at the level of best players in either teams at this point. (Nestea, MvP, MC, maybe Nada) Rest of the teams may have 1 player per team that could take a game or two from them.

What I'm saying is, it's hard pressed to come up with a list of player that can challenge these guys.


Zotac spoilers:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading] IMMvp <Metalopolis> [image loading] NEXByun
[image loading] IMMvp <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMLosira <Scrap Station> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMYongHwa <Blistering Sands> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMYoDa <Delta Quadrant> [image loading] NEXPuzzle

[image loading] oGsEnsnare <Delta Quadrant> [image loading] NEXDestination
[image loading] oGsEnsnare <Metalopolis> [image loading] NEXON
[image loading] oGsEnsnare <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] oGsHyperdub <Lost Temple>[image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] oGsMC <Blistering Sands> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] oGsCezanne <Scrap Station> [image loading] NEXPuzzle

[image loading] oGsCezanne <Shakuras Plateau> [image loading] ST_Squirtle
[image loading] oGsCezanne <Lost Temple> [image loading] ST_July
[image loading] oGsCezanne <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] ST_Bomber
[image loading] oGsInCa <Metalopolis> [image loading] ST_Bomber
[image loading] oGsTOP <Blistering Sands> [image loading] ST_Bomber
[image loading] oGsMC <Scrap Station> [image loading] ST_Bomber


^

Those are both players who are not yet in the GSL and won't be for at least a few promotion/demotion cycles, yet they've both managed some impressive performances. I've seen Jinro speak very highly of Bomber for instance, and I'm sure there are others who can be competitive at that level. Bo1 format also leaves it a bit more open to shock results, I don't think it'll be as straightforward as it might look.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
January 29 2011 19:02 GMT
#117
Just purchased my season ticket, this is going to be great.
beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 19:22:16
January 29 2011 19:11 GMT
#118
oGs vs im 1st round=fail
winner of that will win the tournament.

I hope Mc gets to play MVP.
Gov
Profile Joined November 2010
United States121 Posts
January 29 2011 19:26 GMT
#119
this will be my first team event i watch so it will be interesting to say the least
the format of a team event seems very fun to me

anyone know how often a teams lead player has gotten a hot streak and gone X wins and 0 losses?
1
Ever-Long
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada106 Posts
January 29 2011 19:27 GMT
#120
On January 30 2011 03:57 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 03:43 Ever-Long wrote:
IMO whoever wins between IM and OGS will win it. Just because there are no player that can play at the level of best players in either teams at this point. (Nestea, MvP, MC, maybe Nada) Rest of the teams may have 1 player per team that could take a game or two from them.

What I'm saying is, it's hard pressed to come up with a list of player that can challenge these guys.


Zotac spoilers:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading] IMMvp <Metalopolis> [image loading] NEXByun
[image loading] IMMvp <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMLosira <Scrap Station> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMYongHwa <Blistering Sands> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMYoDa <Delta Quadrant> [image loading] NEXPuzzle

[image loading] oGsEnsnare <Delta Quadrant> [image loading] NEXDestination
[image loading] oGsEnsnare <Metalopolis> [image loading] NEXON
[image loading] oGsEnsnare <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] oGsHyperdub <Lost Temple>[image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] oGsMC <Blistering Sands> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] oGsCezanne <Scrap Station> [image loading] NEXPuzzle

[image loading] oGsCezanne <Shakuras Plateau> [image loading] ST_Squirtle
[image loading] oGsCezanne <Lost Temple> [image loading] ST_July
[image loading] oGsCezanne <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] ST_Bomber
[image loading] oGsInCa <Metalopolis> [image loading] ST_Bomber
[image loading] oGsTOP <Blistering Sands> [image loading] ST_Bomber
[image loading] oGsMC <Scrap Station> [image loading] ST_Bomber


^

Those are both players who are not yet in the GSL and won't be for at least a few promotion/demotion cycles, yet they've both managed some impressive performances. I've seen Jinro speak very highly of Bomber for instance, and I'm sure there are others who can be competitive at that level. Bo1 format also leaves it a bit more open to shock results, I don't think it'll be as straightforward as it might look.


I understand there are players out there that can surprise everyone, those are rare cases. It'd be even more rare to have two of those players on a team.

Also I believe that best Bo1 is more head games than say Bo3 because as (perceived) stronger player will have more confidence to start with. I believe that's a good thing for the stronger player unless he underestimates too much.

Though Jinro speaks highly of Bomber, he also spoke highly of the likes of MC and MKP before.

Lastly old MvP =/= new MvP just like old Jinro =/= new Jinro
Jerax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada189 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 19:29:37
January 29 2011 19:29 GMT
#121
On January 30 2011 02:14 Greentellon wrote:
While IMMvP might seem to be invincible, I remind you that MvP lost to choyafOu in GSL 3 Ro16. Yes, that choyafOu.

I'm just pointing out that anything can happen


You can find plenty of examples of currently top players losing to lesser players in the past. As it stands right now, MvP only dropped 1 game to Nestea in GSL4, his own teammate. IM will probably win this teamleague.
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 18:43:37
January 29 2011 19:46 GMT
#122
uhm
Since in this format, as someone said, superstars is what matters.

Predictions:
ST < fOu
Prime < TSL
oGs > IM
ZeNEX < SlayerS

Notable players
+ Show Spoiler +
ST
+ Show Spoiler +
Rainbow
July
Bomber
Squirtle

fOu
+ Show Spoiler +
Leenock
Choya
sC

Prime
+ Show Spoiler +
Check
MarineKing
Maka
HongUn

TSL
+ Show Spoiler +
Fruitdealer
Clide
Killer (SangHo)
Rain
Trickster

oGs
+ Show Spoiler +
Hyperdub
MC
Nada
InCa
TOP
Ensnare
TheStC
Zenio

IM
+ Show Spoiler +
Nestea
Mvp

ZeNex
+ Show Spoiler +
Kyrix
Byun
Banbansu

Slayers
+ Show Spoiler +
Boxer
Cella



The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
Jerax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada189 Posts
January 29 2011 22:13 GMT
#123
On January 30 2011 04:46 Reptilia wrote:
uhm
Since in this format, as someone said, superstars is what matters.

Predictions:
ST < fOu
Prime < TSL
oGs > IM
ZeNEX < SlayerS

Notable players
+ Show Spoiler +
ST
+ Show Spoiler +
Rainbow
July
Bomber

fOu
+ Show Spoiler +
Leenock
Choya
sC

Prime
+ Show Spoiler +
Check
MarineKing
Maka
HongUn

TSL
+ Show Spoiler +
Fruitdealer
Clide
Killer (SangHo)
Rain
Trickster

oGs
+ Show Spoiler +
Hyperdub
MC
Nada
InCa
TOP
Ensnare
TheStC
Zenio

IM
+ Show Spoiler +
Nestea
Mvp

ZeNex
+ Show Spoiler +
Kyrix
Byun
Banbansu

Slayers
+ Show Spoiler +
Boxer
Cella




Disagree with ST vs fOu and especially oGs vs IM. Like you said, superstars are what matter, I predict MvP will all kill
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
January 29 2011 22:17 GMT
#124
there are a lot of unknown players in each team that carry the weight in Zotac Team invitational
Like ZeNexPuzzle got the most win/rate ration of 13-4

Liquid should make it next season if ret and huk goes far which i think they will
If tyler and TLO goes to korea, I think they will definitely qualify and prob a contender to win
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
January 30 2011 12:53 GMT
#125
Slayers are very likely to lose their spot for the next league to Liquid as long as the Liquid guys survive Round 1 of Code A.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 30 2011 13:11 GMT
#126
On January 30 2011 04:46 Reptilia wrote:
uhm
Since in this format, as someone said, superstars is what matters.

Predictions:
ST < fOu
Prime < TSL
oGs > IM
ZeNEX < SlayerS

Notable players
+ Show Spoiler +
ST
+ Show Spoiler +
Rainbow
July
Bomber

fOu
+ Show Spoiler +
Leenock
Choya
sC

Prime
+ Show Spoiler +
Check
MarineKing
Maka
HongUn

TSL
+ Show Spoiler +
Fruitdealer
Clide
Killer (SangHo)
Rain
Trickster

oGs
+ Show Spoiler +
Hyperdub
MC
Nada
InCa
TOP
Ensnare
TheStC
Zenio

IM
+ Show Spoiler +
Nestea
Mvp

ZeNex
+ Show Spoiler +
Kyrix
Byun
Banbansu

Slayers
+ Show Spoiler +
Boxer
Cella





oGs vs IM is pretty much SKT vs KT......oGs may have many good players but IM just needs one good player to all-kill you.
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kuroshiro
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 14:33:34
January 30 2011 14:30 GMT
#127
On January 30 2011 04:46 Reptilia wrote:
uhm
Since in this format, as someone said, superstars is what matters.

Predictions:
ST < fOu
Prime < TSL
oGs > IM
ZeNEX < SlayerS

Notable players
+ Show Spoiler +
ST
+ Show Spoiler +
Rainbow
July
Bomber

fOu
+ Show Spoiler +
Leenock
Choya
sC

Prime
+ Show Spoiler +
Check
MarineKing
Maka
HongUn

TSL
+ Show Spoiler +
Fruitdealer
Clide
Killer (SangHo)
Rain
Trickster

oGs
+ Show Spoiler +
Hyperdub
MC
Nada
InCa
TOP
Ensnare
TheStC
Zenio

IM
+ Show Spoiler +
Nestea
Mvp

ZeNex
+ Show Spoiler +
Kyrix
Byun
Banbansu

Slayers
+ Show Spoiler +
Boxer
Cella






Choya is disqualified for fOu for his rock-paper-scissor ladder antics. That said I'd probably still agree that fOu will take it against Startale, unless Rainbow pulls his finger out and starts playing well again.

EDIT: oh and I'd add squirtle to the list of notable ST players. We haven't seen a great deal of him but the word is that he's pretty good.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 30 2011 17:40 GMT
#128
I really don't understand why they have to select 8 players. If it is a best of 7, then maximum 4 people from each team can play.

Could somebody explain this for me? I never saw clan fights in BW.

I already bought the ticket. It is probably around 3,5 € so that would be the price of 2 beers. Pretty cheap.
I hope the new commentators will be casting this though. I love Tastosis but I would like to see some new faces.
Code A and Code S is a bit too much for 1 Casting Archon.

Anyway, can somebody explain, please?
I had a good night of sleep.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 30 2011 17:46 GMT
#129
On January 31 2011 02:40 Koshi wrote:
I really don't understand why they have to select 8 players. If it is a best of 7, then maximum 4 people from each team can play.

Could somebody explain this for me? I never saw clan fights in BW.

I already bought the ticket. It is probably around 3,5 € so that would be the price of 2 beers. Pretty cheap.
I hope the new commentators will be casting this though. I love Tastosis but I would like to see some new faces.
Code A and Code S is a bit too much for 1 Casting Archon.

Anyway, can somebody explain, please?


Apparently Code A will be casted by different people (TorcH??).. while we will probably se the casting archon on GSTL and Code S.

As for predictions.. I'd go for fOu, Prime, IM and Slayers.. The closest match seems to be oGs vs IM, but an MVP all-kill is likely, and even if he gets taken out, they still got NesTea.. way too much power in 2 players.

TSL vs Prime also sounds good, I expect MKP to deliver in this matchup, hopefully we'll see a fruitdealer/MKP ace match!!
Jerax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada189 Posts
January 30 2011 18:25 GMT
#130
Actually more excited for this than the next season of GSL, Seeing all your favourite players + NEW MAPS!! can't wait for Feb 8th :D
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
January 30 2011 18:27 GMT
#131
i think people forgot about jinro
Jaedong, Baby | Idra, Marineking, Tester, Nada
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 30 2011 18:33 GMT
#132
On January 31 2011 03:27 GobIin wrote:
i think people forgot about jinro


if he actually plays -.-
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 30 2011 18:39 GMT
#133
On January 31 2011 03:27 GobIin wrote:
i think people forgot about jinro


Jinro is on Team Liquid.
Which is not oGs.
That are different teams.
Because they are not the same team.

But maybe you want to say that Jinro will go cheer on oGs, which would give them the power of ten thousand suns. Then I agree.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 18:57:53
January 30 2011 18:42 GMT
#134
IM is actually scary.

If you actually think about the level and style these two are playing at (IMMvp & Nestea). They are very similiar to Flash and Jaedong of BroodWar.

-Mvp: no mistakes, deadly timing pushes, insane macro, can turtle... screams Flash
-Nestea: When no other zerg is winning, he is. Extremely great macro zerg, creative lategame techniques... Jaedong.

And these two players are on one team. It's scary to see what any team can do about that in any format really. oGs has good players, but they're players aren't as good as the SKT line up of Bisu, Fantasy, & Best. Fantasy is like MKP, and Bisu is like oGsMC... Atleast that's how their styles feel like. oGs lineup feels like old Hite Sparkys line up, one strong S class player, and the rest is Oz level non Jaedong players.

People never played BW might have some trouble understanding.

I want to list in my opinion best to worst chances:

1) IM- Nestea and Mvp in winner league style format. Good luck.
2) TSL- A powerhouse. 5 top level players in S class. SangHo, Tester, Fruitdealer, & Clide. Ouch.
3) oGs- A huge a deep lineup to choose from. Possible have best protoss in the world. Also Inca, another great protoss, as well as TOP and StC, great terran players.
4) ST- In the previous team league, have you seen ST Bomber and ST Squitle play? They are insanely good. They completely the line up with a now code S july and runner up Rainbow.
5) Sls- They have been getting new talent. In the other team league they are running strong with no-name players. I expect these to do well.
6) Prime: Their line up is large, but they don't have many great players, and the ones they do haven't been performing super well. Ofcourse MKP, but his play isn't super consistent. Maka, and HungUn still okay players, but they'll need to step up.
7) fOu: They have Choya who hasn't been playing well. They don't have any real top level players, but new talent which could do well.
8) ZeNeX: They aren't really getting any many new players. And they're current players aren't amazing. They have Kyrix with his on and off days, and they have Byun; new talent. Poor lineup.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
jakek95
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom351 Posts
January 30 2011 18:43 GMT
#135
Wait what about the qualifiers today? there are 3 more for teamliquids so surely Tl are now in the GSTL?!?!!? Please someone answer!
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
January 30 2011 18:46 GMT
#136
On January 31 2011 02:46 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 02:40 Koshi wrote:
I really don't understand why they have to select 8 players. If it is a best of 7, then maximum 4 people from each team can play.

Could somebody explain this for me? I never saw clan fights in BW.

I already bought the ticket. It is probably around 3,5 € so that would be the price of 2 beers. Pretty cheap.
I hope the new commentators will be casting this though. I love Tastosis but I would like to see some new faces.
Code A and Code S is a bit too much for 1 Casting Archon.

Anyway, can somebody explain, please?


Apparently Code A will be casted by different people (TorcH??).. while we will probably se the casting archon on GSTL and Code S.

As for predictions.. I'd go for fOu, Prime, IM and Slayers.. The closest match seems to be oGs vs IM, but an MVP all-kill is likely, and even if he gets taken out, they still got NesTea.. way too much power in 2 players.

TSL vs Prime also sounds good, I expect MKP to deliver in this matchup, hopefully we'll see a fruitdealer/MKP ace match!!


In soccer, your team has like 15 ppl, but only 11 of them can play at the same time. Its like that.
You must select 8 players of ur team but you only select 4 for the matches depending on the strategies you want to use.
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 19:18:39
January 30 2011 19:09 GMT
#137
On January 31 2011 03:43 jakek95 wrote:
Wait what about the qualifiers today? there are 3 more for teamliquids so surely Tl are now in the GSTL?!?!!? Please someone answer!


TeamLiquid
3 x 1.0
1 x 1.6
= 4.6

Slayers (8th)
2 x 1.0
2 x 1.6
= 5.2

Plus I believe Slayers got another member in yesterday since I recall TorcH was playing Slayers guy in final.

Edit: Sorry, SlayerS actually got two new players and they actually have 1 Code S and 4 Code A for a total for 5.6 points.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
RainWhisper
Profile Joined May 2009
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 20:43:46
January 30 2011 20:43 GMT
#138
CMON TeamLiquid , so close !!!

Hopefully next season.
Hi can i get one McGracken please?
Rzn`WiseGuy
Profile Joined January 2011
Scotland16 Posts
January 30 2011 20:53 GMT
#139
All of these teams are so good. I cannot wait to see the matches! :D
We all owe Jinro 150 minerals; he is our gateway to Korea.
Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
January 30 2011 20:54 GMT
#140
liquid doesnt have enough players, you need 8 players on your team according to the rules they posted
jdreamer
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia296 Posts
January 30 2011 21:17 GMT
#141
Just purchased the season pass. Hopefully it will be good!!
My life for Aiur!
exarchrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States491 Posts
January 31 2011 00:13 GMT
#142
My predictions

Ro8
ST vs FoU

Prime vs TSL

oGs vs IM

Zenex vs SlayerS

Semis
Prime vs FoU

IM vs Zenex

Finals

Prime vs IM


MVP & Nestea 1-2 punch will beat too much to handle for anyone. They don't have as much depth however as some of the other teams, but both are capable of winning against multiple opponents in a row.

Prime vs TSL will be close, but I think MKP will be the difference.

This tourney should be very entertaining. $9,000 ain't too shabby for winning this.
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Buubble
Profile Joined January 2009
United States191 Posts
February 01 2011 15:40 GMT
#143
On January 31 2011 05:54 Coramoor wrote:
liquid doesnt have enough players, you need 8 players on your team according to the rules they posted


huk
jinro
hayder
ret
tlo
tyler
naz
...drone!

8player gg lol. it would be a massive global tl rally in south korea
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 15:49:03
February 01 2011 15:48 GMT
#144
@ OP why use "semi finals" and "finals" and not quarter finals as well? Otherwise go for ro2 ro4 ro8. Still, if it's professionalism you're looking for go for the 1st way by far.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
February 01 2011 15:55 GMT
#145
TSL vs IM finals. TSL is going to take it!
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Dogbert
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada87 Posts
February 01 2011 16:57 GMT
#146
Has there still not been any official comment on whether or not this will have english commentary? I would buy the gstl ticket in a heartbeat if Tastosis was casting the matches.
imbecile
Profile Joined October 2009
563 Posts
February 01 2011 17:25 GMT
#147
Why do you need 8 players, if it's over after 4 losses (or 5 in the final).
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
February 01 2011 18:23 GMT
#148
On February 02 2011 00:48 Apolo wrote:
@ OP why use "semi finals" and "finals" and not quarter finals as well? Otherwise go for ro2 ro4 ro8. Still, if it's professionalism you're looking for go for the 1st way by far.


Because it's a copy/paste of the gomTV website and gomTV website use ro8/semi final/final
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
February 01 2011 18:32 GMT
#149
On February 02 2011 02:25 imbecile wrote:
Why do you need 8 players, if it's over after 4 losses (or 5 in the final).


lol you're damn right... this doesn't make any sense! In this case, team Liquid could be competing with their players in Korea (except the final where they'd need a 5th guy.. not that it would matter since they'd win before needing him anyway)
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
February 01 2011 18:40 GMT
#150
by the way is tastosis casting this?
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
BoTmon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States13 Posts
February 01 2011 18:49 GMT
#151
EG and TL should just merge the team together for a team league. no point in not going to a tournament because of not enough people. and they pretty much know each other.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 01 2011 19:37 GMT
#152
mvp isn't invincible in a bo1 setting. the gsl is a tourney where you know the maps and the opponent, and mvp's training as a bw progamer helps him to prepare counter builds and anticipate the opponent extremely well, at least relative to other sc2 pros.
in a WL format he's still extremely good of course, but he is not immune to mistakes, surprise builds, or occasional loss of form. with that said IM has more players than just mvp and nestea and they are probably still the favorite to win. it would not be a surprise if they lose though even in the first round.
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xand
Profile Joined September 2010
United States65 Posts
February 01 2011 19:54 GMT
#153
If IM does lose it will most likely be in the first round or the last. oGs has probably the best protoss player in the world, or at least korea the only other argument for best in the world would be whitera, and just have a monster lineup to go with it especially if liquid gets to play with them. Prime on the other hand also has a great lineup and MKP to help them but I don't think they are as good as IM or oGs.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 01 2011 19:57 GMT
#154
Crazy so this is the only GSL we'll have is those 5 days all month?

Hoping OGS lets jinro or someone play ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
wolfe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States761 Posts
February 01 2011 19:57 GMT
#155
Here's my question. Which individual PLAYA do you think is going to last the LONGEST?

hint hint*
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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
February 02 2011 13:57 GMT
#156
I hope theSTC plays/is allowed to play. I haven't seen him play in ages :|
Would be great to see some underdog-team in the finals, always makes it interesting.
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
February 02 2011 15:34 GMT
#157
I want to know if it's still first team to 4 kills for ro8 and ro4 (ie bo7) and first team to 5 kills for finals (ie bo9) or if it's in fact a bo3 for ro8/ro4 and a bo5 for finals :p as the side-info says here: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/schedule/

I assume and hope it's still bo7 and bo9 because bo3 and bo5 is ridiculous.
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Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
February 05 2011 04:29 GMT
#158
Sooo does anyone know for sure if Tastosis is gonna cast this? Cuz i'm more excited for this than gsl5. I want to buy the pass but don't want to if there won't be english commentary
I kinda miss Idra...
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
February 05 2011 04:50 GMT
#159
On February 02 2011 00:40 CrimsnDragn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 05:54 Coramoor wrote:
liquid doesnt have enough players, you need 8 players on your team according to the rules they posted


huk
jinro
hayder
ret
tlo
tyler
naz
...drone!

8player gg lol. it would be a massive global tl rally in south korea


Just wait for:

LiquidStork
LiquidBisu
LiquidFlash
LiquidJaedong

All we need is a few more SEA people and we TL can dominate every continent. TeamLiquid -> LiquidEmpire
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
February 05 2011 04:57 GMT
#160
Will artosis and tasteless cast this?
exarchrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States491 Posts
February 07 2011 00:18 GMT
#161
On February 05 2011 13:57 trikshun wrote:
Will artosis and tasteless cast this?

Yes
justin.tv/exarch watch me play!
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 02:22:34
February 07 2011 02:22 GMT
#162
ZeNEX will take it


Heard it here first.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 02:29:26
February 07 2011 02:25 GMT
#163
From the poll comments: "to the people mindlessly auto-voting IM and oGs...
NEXPuzzle all-killed both of them in the ZOTAC Invitational (which was just las month) and IM ended dead last at 2-6 (lol) and oGs was only 4-4; ZeNex took second overall behind Startale.

Although this is the same format as WL, it's still best of ones, and players play differently in Team Leagues"


On February 02 2011 02:25 imbecile wrote:
Why do you need 8 players, if it's over after 4 losses (or 5 in the final).

You need 12 players in BW Proleague, and it might be for two reasons: They don't want some random grouping of 4 players to come in and win everything, because that's not really a team, also because the coach chooses players go out one by one, look at the proleague, every team has like 6-10 players with played games on each team, even though they only use 4 players, because they use players for specific MU's or maps
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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
February 07 2011 02:44 GMT
#164
Funny how #1 and #2 on the Poll are last and second last on the Zotac Team Invitational Season 2, yet #1 and #2 standing teams in Zotac are last on the poll!

Linky link:Zotac Team Invitational / Season 2

Team Standings - As of January 21
# Team
1 ZeNEX
2 Startale
3 SlayerS
4 Prime
5 fOu
6 MvP
7 TSL
8 oGs
9 IM
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 07 2011 02:48 GMT
#165
MVP and NesTea were not super involved with the ZOTAC stuff though were they?
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kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
February 07 2011 02:51 GMT
#166
A lot of those teams have great players yet no champions or big names. I picked IM to win the team league but thinking now, it will probably be a team with less popular players like zenex, fou or something. Most excited to see these new gsl maps though and what the players can show us.
MacroKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada298 Posts
February 07 2011 02:52 GMT
#167
lol, oGs vs IM in ro8...
Member of the NEX Clan!
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 03:11:20
February 07 2011 03:10 GMT
#168
On February 07 2011 11:48 Turgid wrote:
MVP and NesTea were not super involved with the ZOTAC stuff though were they?

They played a few games each but didn't do very well, neither did oGsMC. Best of 1s are really volatile and unpredictable hence why with IM's lackluster team other than NesTea and MVP I really don't think they have a chance. oGs at least has some strength behind it other than their hero player MC.

Here are some of the results of MVP and NesTea playing

IM vs. ZeNEX
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IM 1<4 ZeNEX

[image loading] IMMvp <Metalopolis> [image loading] NEXByun
[image loading] IMMvp <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMLosira <Scrap Station> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMYongHwa <Blistering Sands> [image loading] NEXPuzzle
[image loading] IMYoDa <Delta Quadrant> [image loading] NEXPuzzle

IM vs. TSL
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IM 4>3 TSL

[image loading] IMLosira <Scrap Station> [image loading] TSL_Fruitdealer
[image loading] IMLosira <Lost Temple> [image loading] TSL_Smart
[image loading] IMLosira <Delta Quadrant> [image loading] TSL_Rain
[image loading] IMYongHwa <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] TSL_Rain
[image loading] IMNestea <Metalopolis> [image loading] TSL_Rain
[image loading] IMNestea <Shakuras Plateau> [image loading] TSL_aLive
[image loading] IMJunwi <Blistering Sands> [image loading] TSL_aLive


And when IM don't put NesTea or MVP in they get all-killed by GumihofOu (lol), who was utterly horrible in my opinion in GSL.

IM vs. fOu
+ Show Spoiler +

IM 2<4 fOu

[image loading] IMYoda <Scrap Station> [image loading] sCfOu
[image loading] IMYoda <Xel'Naga Caverns> [image loading] kasyufOu
[image loading] IMYoda <Metalopolis> [image loading] GumihofOu
[image loading] IMhorror <Blistering Sands> [image loading] GumihofOu
[image loading] IMPippi <Shakuras Plateau> [image loading] GumihofOu
[image loading] IMIcecream <Lost Temple> [image loading] GumihofOu


from: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=185374
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 07 2011 03:14 GMT
#169
I've seen a lot of those results before. I'd love to see how those games played out because it's pretty crazy, some of the stuff that apparently happened.
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