EPTI've created this thread to talk and get your opinion about the over-used word "rage", it's definition and what's behind this "concept. It starts by the fact I'm often "considered" as a bad manner player because people also consider me as a "rager", while i don't. When I take a look at the online dictionnary of the word "rage" i can read:
Rage – noun
. angry fury; violent anger.
. a violent desire or passion.
. the object of widespread enthusiasm, as for being popular or fashionable: Raccoon coats were the rage on campus.
In the meantime "rage" seems to be defined by the SC community as the fact you're just saying something else than "gg wp" at the end of a lost game.
Example
Me: That's now 5 times in a row my protoss opponent go for proxy gates/cannons, is it school holiday or something?
5th protoss opponent : rage?
At this moment i wasn't really in an angry fury, nor in a violent anger or caring for raccoon coats, I was just noticing that it looked kinda stupid/kiddish to play that way, especially because he started the game saying "have fun" when he knew it won't be about fun at all. Then, as i was reading this topic http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136123 i just understood that everyone has his own definition of what "raging" is.
Examples found in the mentionned thread
PvZ on Blistering Sands
Him: you're lucky i'm so drunk
Me: WELL IM HIGH LOL
Him: noob
then he watches me rape his nat and then leaves
Me: Nice name, where are you from?
Him: korea
Me: Why are you on the US server?
Him: ?????
He loses 7 minutes after the game starts.
To make this whole thing clear and to avoid the trolls army to post its billion definitions down there, i'll go for the poll:
Poll: Calling your opponent a rager is appropriate when:
He keeps insulting you and your family till the end of the game and refuses to leave (171)
65%
He is talking about imbalances or saying cheesing is bad (29)
11%
He leaves without saying "gg" (22)
8%
He says you won because you were lucky or because he was drunk/sick/... (19)
7%
He says you played bad (11)
4%
He's calling you a newb and you're really higher ranked than him (7)
3%
He pretends you cheated/hacked (6)
2%
265 total votes
He is talking about imbalances or saying cheesing is bad (29)
He leaves without saying "gg" (22)
He says you won because you were lucky or because he was drunk/sick/... (19)
He says you played bad (11)
He's calling you a newb and you're really higher ranked than him (7)
He pretends you cheated/hacked (6)
265 total votes
Your vote: Calling your opponent a rager is appropriate when:
(Vote): He is talking about imbalances or saying cheesing is bad
(Vote): He says you played bad
(Vote): He pretends you cheated/hacked
(Vote): He's calling you a newb and you're really higher ranked than him
(Vote): He keeps insulting you and your family till the end of the game and refuses to leave
(Vote): He says you won because you were lucky or because he was drunk/sick/...
(Vote): He leaves without saying "gg"
Now according to the topic mentionned above, i've also notice players who are calling others "ragers" seems amazingly wise (Yoda style) and won't say anything more than:
- =), :>, ;(, ...
- Ok cool story bro
- Lol
- YOU are the newb
- Etc ...
So let's get to the second poll:
Poll: According to your answer(s) in the previous poll, you may say
I never call people ragers (133)
52%
Sometimes i call people ragers while I can also be the one raging (76)
30%
I call people ragers and never rage (48)
19%
257 total votes
Sometimes i call people ragers while I can also be the one raging (76)
I call people ragers and never rage (48)
257 total votes
Your vote: According to your answer(s) in the previous poll, you may say
(Vote): Sometimes i call people ragers while I can also be the one raging
(Vote): I call people ragers and never rage
(Vote): I never call people ragers
I've decided to put those polls online for two reasons
The first one is to know what the TL community people have in mind when they're talking about raging, the second one is to put it in perspective and to check if calling a person a rager is not actually an "easy word" as "newb", that people use when they consider themself as better players for a moment. This came into my mind and makes me laugh as soon as i noticed that "newb/noob" is also what allow the same people to use the "rage" word ... waiting for your comments on that point.
Second part of the thread
Now to make the most of this thread i'd like to talk about another manner aspect of the game, the "gl hf gg" one.
[Mylife]
When i started playing SC in 2000 (if i remember well), noone was using those 6 letters, and actually the community was really, really, REALLY more manner than it is now. Insulting was truly rare whereas people were more chatting in-game, mostly talking about the game they just played, trying to improve their skills, etc ... Then i came to those first french parisian Cybercafé (Parkage, Artefact, Playnet one for french readers here
) and got to see Elky playing and improving the skills that will allow him to reach Korea some years later.One day i saw him play against some other european players and writting stuff like "that is/was a good game", and the other answering "yes for sure
". Then it becames "good game", then "gg", then they started this well known team called "Good Game" where elky was GG1 Elky@dr (Denise Richard), and so on. Some other abbreviation were also here before, as "gl hf", but it looked more as "game" thing, people were having fun putting as much abbreviations as they could to make the opponent go "? xD" (hl gf - have love good fuck etc ...) then gl hf stayed and spread to the whole esport gaming world.[/Mylife]
That's the way i've always considered those 6 letters, something fun and secondary.
What's the matter now?
Nowdays those letters are considered as a manner attitude, often compared to the hands you shake when you meet and play basketball for example, so if you don't write down those 4 letters right at start, you may be considered as a bad mannered ass hole. My opinion is that, in 2011, the "gl hf" and "gg" attitude is now something "stupid".
What do i mean by "stupid"?
I mean that those 6 letters have totally lost their meaning. Saying "gl hf" can be justified in lan competitions, but most of the time when you're playing online it just looks like people are acting as robots, unable to say anything more than those letters, making the "contact" between players even more unhuman. So you can be considered as a "manner" player if you only chat with your opponent using "gl hf gg", which looks quite "stupid" to me. So many times when i don't reply "gl hf" and go for something else more "human", he would just call me a bad manner player. But seriously, if you're not "having fun", considering we're playing games, wouldn't it be better to just shut your computer and go for something else? Same for "good luck", if you say so, why call your opponent a rager if later he argues that you're a lucker?
Why am i writting this?
I'm writting this part because i've noticed that more and more people are thinking quite the same when i get onto that topic, some are just bored of writting "gl hf" on and on, 15 times in a row, looking like a parrot when the other player just do the same. Even if i know that people are going to say "Huh but pros do that, so it's cool, so i do that" and "korean commentators shout GG at the end of every game and koreans are the best, so it's cool, so i do that", i wanted to get a global feeling on this point, so last poll:
Poll: What's your opinion on the "gl hf gg" attitude?
It's just a manner thing, nothing more (264)
60%
I only use "gg", when it was actually an interesting game, a "good game" (107)
24%
I go for it only to be polite when my opponent go for it first (46)
11%
I never use those abbreviations (20)
5%
437 total votes
I only use "gg", when it was actually an interesting game, a "good game" (107)
I go for it only to be polite when my opponent go for it first (46)
I never use those abbreviations (20)
437 total votes
Your vote: What's your opinion on the "gl hf gg" attitude?
(Vote): It's just a manner thing, nothing more
(Vote): I go for it only to be polite when my opponent go for it first
(Vote): I only use "gg", when it was actually an interesting game, a "good game"
(Vote): I never use those abbreviations
Thank you for reading and answering, wanted to have the community feeling about those things i have in mind for a long time
ps: excuse my horrible/boring grammar
