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On December 28 2010 19:21 Clickety wrote:
Hmm. Well, I've noticed a distinct lack of black people in recent tournaments. I think someone should create a black people only tourney, otherwise they'll never get any exposure or play competitively.
LMAO so true. SC2 is an even playing field and it's silly to have any special leagues. There's no physical or intellectual reason to have separate tournaments. IMO female tournaments further spreads the negative stereotype that women are less capable. If women want to be pro gamers then they need to put all the effort into it that men do (8 hours or more per day) to get to the same level.
Take a look at some of the ladies that were on WCG:UG including the winner Kat or Torch's girlfriend Rachel, they don't need any special treatment to win big tournaments.
http://wcgultimategamer.com/player/kat-gunn/
http://wcgultimategamer.com/player/rachel-quirico/
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any pictures ?
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Okay that's it! BEARDED MEN ONLY LEAGUE (neckbeards don't count). Coming to you January 2011. One must have a distinct and well groomed beard to compete in this tournament.
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On December 28 2010 19:21 Clickety wrote:
Hmm. Well, I've noticed a distinct lack of black people in recent tournaments. I think someone should create a black people only tourney, otherwise they'll never get any exposure or play competitively.
Yar missing the point, bud. The point is not to give everyone a "fair chance at the spotlight", the point of sports is to inspire and entertain, and that is why a female cup makes sense but a black people cup does not.
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Yea, I'm going to go ahead and say it's Link's fairy from Ocarina of Time, due to the sheer awesomeness of both the game and Navi, and obvious signature. Dunno about anybody else, but I loved Navi way more then Tatl or Tael. (Tattle-tale, for those that missed it) ♥♥♥
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Very nice interview! I like how she goes into her thoughts and talks about past experience with the players, to get an idea on what is likely to come during the matches. Also, congrats on the win, NaviListen.
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Braavos36401 Posts
If theres an interview with a player, do not derail about gender issues or whether its "unfair" to have female only tournaments. If you continue to go off topic and force arguments about this, you will be warned or banned. Discuss the OP and the interview.
If there's a thread about a female gamer, and you post something like "pics plz" or something equally useless, you will be warned or banned. We want to make our community a welcoming place to everyone. Pages of picture requests and harassment is not acceptable.
Lastly, there is really nothing wrong with a tournament that is female-only. Every game or sport has classifications, whether its "only people in Poland" or "only Gold players" or "people registered on TL." These tournaments serve an important purpose, to encourage participation in groups of players that normally would not have such a tournament experience. It is only bringing more people to the game and delivering a better experience for everyone.
There is nothing wrong with such a tournament. Please stop arguing about it. Most of all, stop bringing such an argument into threads like this.
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Admin rage was unleash upon this thread. I dont like such restrictions, most comments have been on topic and it is annoying as hell to read "RED SIGN" on every other comment. Calm down admins dont abuse your virtual power.
In poker world there have been cases when men played in women only tournaments becouse if organisers wouldn't allow them to play it would be considered as discrimination so guys here made good point.
Dont warn people only becouse you dont like topic they find interesting.
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On December 28 2010 20:50 Pitrocelli wrote:
Admin rage was unleash upon this thread. I dont like such restrictions, most comments have been on topic and it is annoying as hell to read "RED SIGN" on every other comment. Calm down admins dont abuse your virtual power.
In poker world there have been cases when men played in women only tournaments becouse if organisers wouldn't allow them to play it would be considered as discrimination so guys here made good point.
Dont warn people only becouse you dont like topic they find interesting.
We didn't warn anyone that was on topic, there was no "abuse of power" here. Unfortunately we do not base our moderation on what annoys or doesn't annoy warned users. Obviously we warn people for derailing, you're not allowed to just turn a thread into an argument about whatever you want because you "find it interesting." It doesn't matter whether their points were good or not.
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On November 19 2010 03:30 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 03:10 Peanutsc wrote:
She thinks the handsomest progamer is Jaedong. Personally, Jaedong is my favorite progamer, but I'd pick Bisu or Reach for handsomest. Why did they ask her what progamer she thinks is handsomest? Do we ask our male tennis players what female tennis player they think is hottest? I don't mean to be obnoxious, but she played well - why do we have to ask shit like that? how does that further the cause of female gaming? while questions like that are being asked I don't have much hope for anyone taking female progaming seriously at all. Otherwise a good read, +1 to op
LoL every starcraft player has their favourite and most handsome progamers, it would be suspicious if that wasn't one of the questions.
I dunno why though cos Reach is clearly the most sexxx
I really like they thought process in game 2 against Awesome... can you get these reps somewhere?
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On December 28 2010 19:21 Clickety wrote:
Hmm. Well, I've noticed a distinct lack of black people in recent tournaments. I think someone should create a black people only tourney, otherwise they'll never get any exposure or play competitively.
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You should meet my cousin. He's planning on competing in Halo: Reach for next season's MLG.
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is there a reason why there are no pics?
I'm confused
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Female cup for E-sports? We all know men are physically stronger and better at sports but are we also smarter and faster/better at thinking? From what I know this is called SEXIST. Who cares if girls play games, that fact that a player is GOOD should be why you like them or root for them not because of anything else but pure skill.
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On November 19 2010 03:30 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 03:10 Peanutsc wrote:
She thinks the handsomest progamer is Jaedong. Personally, Jaedong is my favorite progamer, but I'd pick Bisu or Reach for handsomest. Why did they ask her what progamer she thinks is handsomest? Do we ask our male tennis players what female tennis player they think is hottest? I don't mean to be obnoxious, but she played well - why do we have to ask shit like that? how does that further the cause of female gaming? while questions like that are being asked I don't have much hope for anyone taking female progaming seriously at all. Otherwise a good read, +1 to op
Actually yes, they haved asked that...
Nice read, congratz.
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I'm sad I missed this event. Really cool interview. Wish Navi would stream more, because that's how I became a fan. =)
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On December 28 2010 20:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
If there's a thread about a female gamer, and you post something like "pics plz" or something equally useless, you will be warned or banned. We want to make our community a welcoming place to everyone. Pages of picture requests and harassment is not acceptable.
This makes no sense to me. How is it harassment to ask for pictures? Would this be different if it were a guy? People have the same curiosity to see the face and body behind a player in both cases. It gives something extra to admire. I see it as a compliment to the person, not an insult or harassment.
Anyways... *shrugs* not sure if a discussion of this is welcome or not, since it is off topic, but yet it seems nonsensical to start a discussion only about that, so I won't make more posts about this.
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Sad to see so many users here still not comprehending how this forum works. Anyway, it's always great to hear a female gamer's point of view and i hope the scene has healthy development in 2011 through tournaments like these.
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Nice interview. Good to see more female players joining the scene.
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Thanks for the kind words everybody (and lol @ the cute female cup "debate" going on). I still stream too, catch me in the early mornings or late evenings PST. Been working full-time and doing a little WoW with family + friends so things with SC2 have been slow. If you need any tips or pointers for Zerg or against Zerg, my team and I can help you out. Happy holidays 
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Should start banning derailers now that the warning has been unleashed imo
Congrats to the winner!
But jaedong is clearly not the most handsome, Nada's body reigns supreme
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On November 20 2010 15:56 RHMVNovus wrote:
Navi won the cup? And there's an interview?
Looks like I'd better...
*sunglasses*
Listen.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
I just wanted to say that this post has gotten nowhere near the level of respect it deserves. Well played.
Congratulations to Navi, and I hope you keep on going! I'd love to see players like you get good enough to start taking TL Opens and stuff like that. Always great to see a wider audience for Starcraft.
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