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On April 19 2013 19:40 grigorin wrote:
the program crashes for me everytime i enable gas micro for zerg. anyone else with same problem?
This is a known issue that will be fixed in the next version.
On April 20 2013 06:23 Moobla wrote:
I haven't tried that ^, but my program always crashes when I try to open a build order that I saved(scfusion saved it as a .xml file by default).
Could you please upload the save file that causes the crash?
On April 20 2013 07:09 mechengineer123 wrote:
I say max factories 1, but it makes 2.
This is because when 'morphing' a building (eg, adding a tech lab/reactor or lifting/landing it) it doesn't count as a completed building, so it doesn't get included in the max factory restriction. I'll try and improve that so that the morphing buildings get included.
On April 22 2013 02:12 Executerror wrote:
Crashing when set to "Full Micro" or "Three back & forth" on gas micro. Could anyone explain the difference between "three to gas only" and "three when geyser ready"? Explanation for all gas micro's would be more helpful. Thanks.
"Three to gas only" means that the algorithm can send three workers to gas at any time it chooses. "Three when geyser ready" means that three workers will be sent immediately upon the geyser being completed (so the algorithm can't delay it by a couple of seconds if that's beneficial).
On April 22 2013 03:29 Rainman5419 wrote:I'm trying to figure out what I would have done that caused this behavior. http://imgur.com/l1jhMrVNotice the first Gateway Chrono
I suspect this is caused by the algorithm finding some benefit to the subsequent Chrono Nexus being delayed a little bit. Certainly it's a bit unusual...
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Could you make something like "scout after first depot/rax" or at x supply. It would be better than the time.
Thanks
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Yeah, I've noticed that my app prefers extractor trick, despite the calculations done by others. Given the results of the app, I'm questioning the calculations done, but I haven't got the time to do my own in-depth analysis. I suspect it also depends on exactly how the drones spread out, how well you can keep them paired, etc.
On April 24 2013 05:51 Keirden wrote:
Could you make something like "scout after first depot/rax" or at x supply. It would be better than the time.
Thanks
With the changes I made to enable the "Three when geyser ready" gas micro it would be possible to add triggers, but it'd be rather complicated to add interface support for it. Safe to say it'd be a low priority (sorry).
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Hi,
Thanks for the new versions!
Mine crashes when i select something else in Gas Micro. It only works with default "three to gas only".
Also i cannot put anything in Initial Build Order, I even tryed only "9 Overlord" or "9 Build Overlord" and it does not work.
Can the program do Extractor trick for something else other than drones? I have a build where i think a double extractor trick in order to start a queen earlier is better.
Thanks again!
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It is still not recognizing my custom build order for a 15 hatch 16 gas 15 pool. i have it set up like this
Build Drone
Build Drone
Build Drone
Build Overlord
Build Drone
Build Drone
Build Drone
Build Drone
Build Drone
Build Drone
Build Hatchery
Build Drone
Build Drone
Build Extractor
Build Spawning Pool
Like what i've been seeing from other posts but it is still giving me the "Please use one command per line using the same description as the output."
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On April 23 2013 09:14 CarbonTwelve wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2013 06:23 Moobla wrote:
I haven't tried that ^, but my program always crashes when I try to open a build order that I saved(scfusion saved it as a .xml file by default). Could you please upload the save file that causes the crash?
Here it is, sorry for the delay: http://www.mediafire.com/?tufqkmks7pm53w4
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No more than 4 bases, no more than 90 scvs, anything else goes, how fast can terran max? :D
Still calculating, down to 16:05 , I can easily max in <15:00 while having some small skirmishes,
I am really exited, how low it will get :D , anyone tried this yet for all races? (even though I would allow up to 120 drones for zerg, because then they can just trade and flood)
14:56 now, sadly my cpu is not the fastes, I let it run the night xd
edit: 13:37 now xD
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On May 01 2013 07:40 HaRuHi wrote:
No more than 4 bases, no more than 90 scvs, anything else goes, how fast can terran max? :D
Still calculating, down to 16:05 , I can easily max in <15:00 while having some small skirmishes,
I am really exited, how low it will get :D , anyone tried this yet for all races? (even though I would allow up to 120 drones for zerg, because then they can just trade and flood)
14:56 now, sadly my cpu is not the fastes, I let it run the night xd
edit: 13:37 now xD
There's a slight issue with this in that it won't consider units that you haven't specified a requirement for. If you've only specified SCVs then I'm not sure what it's using to satisfy the 200 supply.
FWIW, I just made a test with a build order that requires 200 supply, no more than 4 bases, and no more than 90 SCVs, and this is what it comes up with after just a minute:
+ Show Spoiler + 0:02.00: 50M 0G 6/ 11S - Build SCV
0:19.00: 73M 0G 7/ 11S - Build SCV
0:36.00: 106M 0G 8/ 11S - Build SCV
0:53.00: 150M 0G 9/ 11S - Build SCV
0:53.03: 100M 0G 10/ 11S - Build Supply Depot
1:10.00: 91M 0G 10/ 11S - Build SCV
1:27.48: 150M 0G 11/ 19S - Build Barracks
1:35.26: 50M 0G 11/ 19S - Build SCV
1:52.26: 121M 0G 12/ 19S - Build SCV
2:09.26: 203M 0G 13/ 19S - Build SCV
2:32.48: 354M 0G 14/ 19S - Build Orbital Command
2:32.48: 204M 0G 14/ 19S - Build Supply Depot
3:07.48: 420M 0G 14/ 27S - Calldown: MULE
3:07.48: 420M 0G 14/ 27S - Build SCV
3:07.48: 370M 0G 15/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
3:14.82: 400M 0G 16/ 27S - Build Macro Command Center
3:24.48: 112M 0G 16/ 27S - Build SCV
3:41.48: 269M 0G 17/ 27S - Build SCV
3:55.09: 400M 0G 18/ 27S - Build Command Center
3:59.17: 50M 0G 18/ 27S - Build SCV
4:16.17: 218M 0G 19/ 27S - Build SCV
4:33.17: 403M 0G 20/ 27S - Build SCV
4:36.37: 399M 0G 21/ 27S - Calldown: MULE
4:36.45: 400M 0G 21/ 27S - Build Macro Command Center
4:40.14: 50M 0G 21/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
4:50.17: 162M 0G 22/ 27S - Build SCV
4:54.82: 191M 0G 23/ 38S - Build SCV
4:55.34: 150M 0G 24/ 38S - Build Barracks
5:07.17: 198M 0G 24/ 38S - Build SCV
5:11.82: 232M 0G 25/ 38S - Build Orbital Command
5:15.49: 150M 0G 25/ 38S - Build Barracks
5:24.17: 156M 0G 25/ 38S - Build SCV
5:24.17: 106M 0G 26/ 38S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
5:29.19: 150M 0G 27/ 38S - Build Barracks
5:37.47: 150M 0G 27/ 49S - Build Orbital Command
5:41.17: 70M 0G 27/ 49S - Build SCV
5:47.68: 150M 0G 28/ 49S - Build Barracks
5:47.68: 0M 0G 28/ 49S - Calldown: MULE
5:50.36: 50M 0G 28/ 49S - Build SCV
5:58.17: 167M 0G 29/ 49S - Build SCV
5:59.66: 150M 0G 30/ 49S - Build Barracks
6:05.26: 122M 0G 30/ 49S - Calldown: MULE
6:07.36: 170M 0G 30/ 49S - Build SCV
6:12.47: 248M 0G 31/ 49S - Build SCV
6:12.47: 198M 0G 32/ 49S - Build Barracks
6:12.47: 48M 0G 32/ 49S - Calldown: MULE
6:16.48: 150M 0G 32/ 60S - Build Orbital Command
6:18.29: 50M 0G 32/ 60S - Build SCV
6:24.36: 184M 0G 33/ 60S - Build SCV
6:29.47: 296M 0G 34/ 60S - Build SCV
6:35.29: 436M 0G 35/ 60S - Build SCV
6:35.29: 386M 0G 36/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:41.36: 539M 0G 37/ 60S - Build SCV
6:46.47: 666M 0G 38/ 60S - Build SCV
6:46.47: 616M 0G 39/ 60S - Build Barracks
6:46.47: 466M 0G 39/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:46.47: 416M 0G 40/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:51.48: 536M 0G 41/ 60S - Calldown: MULE
6:51.48: 536M 0G 41/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:52.68: 528M 0G 42/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:52.68: 478M 0G 43/ 60S - Build Barracks
6:52.68: 328M 0G 43/ 60S - Build SCV
6:52.68: 278M 0G 44/ 60S - Build Supply Depot
7:00.29: 443M 0G 44/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:00.29: 393M 0G 45/ 60S - Build Supply Depot
7:00.29: 293M 0G 45/ 60S - Build SCV
7:00.29: 243M 0G 46/ 60S - Build Barracks
7:00.29: 93M 0G 46/ 60S - Build SCV
7:03.47: 157M 0G 47/ 60S - Build SCV
7:04.66: 149M 0G 48/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:06.03: 150M 0G 49/ 60S - Build Barracks
7:11.47: 200M 0G 49/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:11.47: 150M 0G 50/ 60S - Build SCV
7:11.47: 100M 0G 51/ 60S - Build Supply Depot
7:17.29: 217M 0G 51/ 60S - Build SCV
7:17.29: 167M 0G 52/ 60S - Build SCV
7:17.29: 117M 0G 53/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:17.29: 67M 0G 54/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:20.77: 150M 0G 55/ 60S - Build Barracks
7:22.09: 50M 0G 55/ 60S - Build SCV
7:23.38: 50M 0G 56/ 68S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:24.66: 50M 0G 57/ 68S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:24.66: 0M 0G 58/ 68S - Calldown: MULE
7:34.14: 396M 0G 58/ 76S - Calldown: MULE
7:34.14: 396M 0G 58/ 76S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:34.14: 346M 0G 59/ 76S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:34.14: 296M 0G 60/ 76S - Build SCV
7:36.47: 349M 0G 61/ 76S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:36.47: 299M 0G 62/ 76S - Build SCV
7:42.29: 525M 0G 63/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:42.29: 475M 0G 64/ 84S - Build Barracks
7:42.29: 325M 0G 64/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:42.29: 275M 0G 65/ 84S - Build SCV
7:48.38: 520M 0G 66/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:48.38: 470M 0G 67/ 84S - Build Supply Depot
7:48.38: 370M 0G 67/ 84S - Build Supply Depot
7:48.38: 270M 0G 67/ 84S - Build SCV
7:48.38: 220M 0G 68/ 84S - Build Barracks
7:50.14: 150M 0G 68/ 84S - Build Barracks
7:51.26: 50M 0G 68/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:51.26: 0M 0G 69/ 84S - Calldown: MULE
7:52.39: 50M 0G 69/ 84S - Build SCV
7:53.50: 50M 0G 70/ 84S - Build SCV
7:54.57: 50M 0G 71/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:57.68: 154M 0G 72/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:59.14: 180M 0G 73/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:59.14: 130M 0G 74/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:01.47: 200M 0G 75/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:01.47: 150M 0G 76/ 84S - Build SCV
8:05.29: 301M 0G 77/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:05.38: 256M 0G 78/ 84S - Build SCV
8:05.38: 206M 0G 79/ 84S - Build Barracks
8:07.21: 150M 0G 79/ 84S - Build Barracks
8:09.17: 100M 0G 79/ 84S - Build Supply Depot
8:10.17: 50M 0G 79/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:11.15: 50M 0G 80/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:12.12: 50M 0G 81/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:13.38: 66M 0G 82/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:16.26: 170M 0G 83/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:16.26: 120M 0G 84/ 84S - Build Supply Depot
8:18.38: 132M 0G 84/100S - Build SCV
8:18.38: 82M 0G 85/100S - Build SCV
8:18.73: 50M 0G 86/100S - Build SCV
8:19.68: 50M 0G 87/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:22.38: 145M 0G 88/100S - Build SCV
8:22.38: 95M 0G 89/100S - Calldown: MULE
8:23.41: 150M 0G 89/100S - Build Barracks
8:24.34: 50M 0G 89/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:27.11: 150M 0G 90/100S - Build Barracks
8:28.01: 50M 0G 90/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:28.89: 50M 0G 91/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:29.77: 50M 0G 92/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:30.65: 50M 0G 93/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:32.40: 100M 0G 94/100S - Build Supply Depot
8:35.38: 170M 0G 94/100S - Build SCV
8:35.38: 120M 0G 95/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:35.38: 70M 0G 96/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:35.91: 50M 0G 97/100S - Build SCV
8:36.79: 50M 0G 98/100S - Build SCV
8:37.66: 50M 0G 99/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:39.17: 87M 0G 100/108S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:39.40: 50M 0G 101/108S - Build SCV
8:40.26: 50M 0G 102/108S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:41.26: 58M 0G 103/108S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:44.68: 206M 0G 104/108S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:47.29: 308M 0G 105/116S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:49.34: 377M 0G 106/116S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:49.34: 327M 0G 107/116S - Build Barracks
8:49.34: 177M 0G 107/116S - Build Barracks
8:49.34: 27M 0G 107/116S - Calldown: Extra Supplies
8:52.38: 201M 0G 107/116S - Build SCV
8:53.01: 188M 0G 108/116S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:53.01: 138M 0G 109/116S - Build Supply Depot
8:53.38: 59M 0G 109/116S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:54.10: 50M 0G 110/116S - Build SCV
8:54.96: 50M 0G 111/124S - Build SCV
8:55.82: 50M 0G 112/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:56.68: 50M 0G 113/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:57.54: 50M 0G 114/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:58.39: 50M 0G 115/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:00.38: 116M 0G 116/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:00.38: 66M 0G 117/124S - Build SCV
9:01.81: 100M 0G 118/124S - Build Supply Depot
9:02.66: 50M 0G 118/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:03.52: 50M 0G 119/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:04.37: 50M 0G 120/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:05.26: 52M 0G 121/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:05.26: 2M 0G 122/132S - Calldown: Extra Supplies
9:09.38: 243M 0G 122/132S - Build SCV
9:09.38: 193M 0G 123/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:11.10: 244M 0G 124/140S - Build SCV
9:11.96: 244M 0G 125/140S - Build SCV
9:17.38: 511M 0G 126/140S - Build SCV
9:17.38: 461M 0G 127/140S - Build Supply Depot
9:17.38: 361M 0G 127/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 311M 0G 128/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 261M 0G 129/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 211M 0G 130/140S - Build Refinery
9:17.38: 136M 0G 130/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 86M 0G 131/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 36M 0G 132/140S - Calldown: Extra Supplies
9:18.01: 73M 0G 132/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:18.38: 45M 0G 133/140S - Lift Naked Barracks
9:23.38: 338M 0G 133/156S - Land Naked Barracks
9:26.38: 513M 0G 133/156S - Build SCV
9:26.38: 463M 0G 134/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:26.38: 413M 0G 135/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.10: 464M 0G 136/156S - Build SCV
9:28.10: 414M 0G 137/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.10: 364M 0G 138/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.10: 314M 0G 139/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.96: 314M 0G 140/156S - Build SCV
9:28.96: 264M 0G 141/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.96: 214M 0G 142/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.96: 164M 0G 143/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.96: 114M 0G 144/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:29.57: 100M 0G 145/156S - Build Supply Depot
9:30.43: 50M 0G 145/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:31.28: 50M 0G 146/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:34.38: 182M 0G 147/164S - Build SCV
9:34.38: 132M 0G 148/164S - Build Supply Depot
9:43.38: 558M 0G 148/164S - Build SCV
9:43.38: 508M 0G 149/164S - Build Supply Depot
9:43.38: 408M 0G 149/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:43.38: 358M 0G 150/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:43.38: 308M 0G 151/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:43.38: 258M 0G 152/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:45.10: 309M 0G 153/164S - Build SCV
9:45.96: 309M 0G 154/164S - Build SCV
9:45.96: 259M 0G 155/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:45.96: 209M 0G 156/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:45.96: 159M 0G 157/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:45.96: 109M 0G 158/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:51.38: 377M 0G 159/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:51.38: 327M 0G 160/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:51.38: 277M 0G 161/172S - Move Three SCVs To Gas
9:53.10: 377M 0G 161/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.10: 327M 0G 162/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.10: 277M 0G 163/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.96: 278M 0G 164/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.96: 228M 0G 165/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.96: 178M 0G 166/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.96: 128M 0G 167/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:54.34: 100M 1G 168/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:54.34: 50M 1G 169/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:55.43: 63M 1G 170/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:56.05: 50M 2G 171/172S - Build SCV
9:59.57: 206M 8G 172/180S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:00.38: 203M 10G 173/180S - Build SCV
10:02.10: 254M 13G 174/180S - Build SCV
10:02.96: 254M 14G 175/180S - Build SCV
10:02.96: 204M 14G 176/180S - Calldown: Extra Supplies
10:08.38: 522M 25G 176/196S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:08.38: 472M 25G 177/196S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:13.05: 695M 34G 178/196S - Build SCV
10:13.05: 645M 34G 179/196S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:13.05: 595M 34G 180/196S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:17.38: 798M 42G 181/204S - Build SCV
10:17.38: 748M 42G 182/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:17.38: 698M 42G 183/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:17.38: 648M 42G 184/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 699M 45G 185/204S - Build SCV
10:19.10: 649M 45G 186/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 599M 45G 187/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 549M 45G 188/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 499M 45G 189/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 449M 45G 190/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 399M 45G 191/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 349M 45G 192/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 299M 45G 193/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 249M 45G 194/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 199M 45G 195/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.34: 163M 46G 196/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.96: 150M 47G 197/204S - Build SCV
10:19.96: 100M 47G 198/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:20.43: 77M 48G 199/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
Waypoint 1 satisfied:
10:20.43: 27M 48G 200/204S
Income: 3512M 114G
Buildings: 12 Supply Depot 4 Extra Supply Depot 1 Refinery 21 Barracks 4 Orbital Command
Units: 78 SCV 97 Marine
Research:
Edit: Another option you can use is to set maximum requirements for everything (ie, set all units to <= 200). It'll slow down a little bit, but should still work. However I'm finding it just seems to want to max out on thors for me... Not sure why...
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Love the program, thanks. I use it to find new cheese, quick openings and safe expansion timing so I really find it a useful tool.
There are a couple minor issues I've noticed which I'd like to let you know about.
1) Terran bunker cost is set as 150 minerals. The bunker cost should be 100 minerals, I think this was a HotS change.
2) It seems that the program thinks that flying barracks, or barracks lifting off do not count as having a barracks. For example imagine the constraint of building 100 marines minimum on 2 Barracks Max. SCFusion will build numerous barracks (3 or more) and then when the time limit for the waypoint comes, lift off all but two barracks. In SCFusion this behaviour of lifting off seems to satisfy the the waypoint despite having far more than 2 Barracks Max.
One last suggestion/question I have is I was wondering if it is possible at all to allow for more than 1 scouting worker in the build options? I would find this useful because in some situations a second worker in addition to your scout will not be mining and its very difficult to account for this. If not possible or likely I understand. Thanks again!
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On May 01 2013 08:10 CarbonTwelve wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 07:40 HaRuHi wrote:
No more than 4 bases, no more than 90 scvs, anything else goes, how fast can terran max? :D
Still calculating, down to 16:05 , I can easily max in <15:00 while having some small skirmishes,
I am really exited, how low it will get :D , anyone tried this yet for all races? (even though I would allow up to 120 drones for zerg, because then they can just trade and flood)
14:56 now, sadly my cpu is not the fastes, I let it run the night xd
edit: 13:37 now xD There's a slight issue with this in that it won't consider units that you haven't specified a requirement for. If you've only specified SCVs then I'm not sure what it's using to satisfy the 200 supply. FWIW, I just made a test with a build order that requires 200 supply, no more than 4 bases, and no more than 90 SCVs, and this is what it comes up with after just a minute: + Show Spoiler + 0:02.00: 50M 0G 6/ 11S - Build SCV
0:19.00: 73M 0G 7/ 11S - Build SCV
0:36.00: 106M 0G 8/ 11S - Build SCV
0:53.00: 150M 0G 9/ 11S - Build SCV
0:53.03: 100M 0G 10/ 11S - Build Supply Depot
1:10.00: 91M 0G 10/ 11S - Build SCV
1:27.48: 150M 0G 11/ 19S - Build Barracks
1:35.26: 50M 0G 11/ 19S - Build SCV
1:52.26: 121M 0G 12/ 19S - Build SCV
2:09.26: 203M 0G 13/ 19S - Build SCV
2:32.48: 354M 0G 14/ 19S - Build Orbital Command
2:32.48: 204M 0G 14/ 19S - Build Supply Depot
3:07.48: 420M 0G 14/ 27S - Calldown: MULE
3:07.48: 420M 0G 14/ 27S - Build SCV
3:07.48: 370M 0G 15/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
3:14.82: 400M 0G 16/ 27S - Build Macro Command Center
3:24.48: 112M 0G 16/ 27S - Build SCV
3:41.48: 269M 0G 17/ 27S - Build SCV
3:55.09: 400M 0G 18/ 27S - Build Command Center
3:59.17: 50M 0G 18/ 27S - Build SCV
4:16.17: 218M 0G 19/ 27S - Build SCV
4:33.17: 403M 0G 20/ 27S - Build SCV
4:36.37: 399M 0G 21/ 27S - Calldown: MULE
4:36.45: 400M 0G 21/ 27S - Build Macro Command Center
4:40.14: 50M 0G 21/ 27S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
4:50.17: 162M 0G 22/ 27S - Build SCV
4:54.82: 191M 0G 23/ 38S - Build SCV
4:55.34: 150M 0G 24/ 38S - Build Barracks
5:07.17: 198M 0G 24/ 38S - Build SCV
5:11.82: 232M 0G 25/ 38S - Build Orbital Command
5:15.49: 150M 0G 25/ 38S - Build Barracks
5:24.17: 156M 0G 25/ 38S - Build SCV
5:24.17: 106M 0G 26/ 38S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
5:29.19: 150M 0G 27/ 38S - Build Barracks
5:37.47: 150M 0G 27/ 49S - Build Orbital Command
5:41.17: 70M 0G 27/ 49S - Build SCV
5:47.68: 150M 0G 28/ 49S - Build Barracks
5:47.68: 0M 0G 28/ 49S - Calldown: MULE
5:50.36: 50M 0G 28/ 49S - Build SCV
5:58.17: 167M 0G 29/ 49S - Build SCV
5:59.66: 150M 0G 30/ 49S - Build Barracks
6:05.26: 122M 0G 30/ 49S - Calldown: MULE
6:07.36: 170M 0G 30/ 49S - Build SCV
6:12.47: 248M 0G 31/ 49S - Build SCV
6:12.47: 198M 0G 32/ 49S - Build Barracks
6:12.47: 48M 0G 32/ 49S - Calldown: MULE
6:16.48: 150M 0G 32/ 60S - Build Orbital Command
6:18.29: 50M 0G 32/ 60S - Build SCV
6:24.36: 184M 0G 33/ 60S - Build SCV
6:29.47: 296M 0G 34/ 60S - Build SCV
6:35.29: 436M 0G 35/ 60S - Build SCV
6:35.29: 386M 0G 36/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:41.36: 539M 0G 37/ 60S - Build SCV
6:46.47: 666M 0G 38/ 60S - Build SCV
6:46.47: 616M 0G 39/ 60S - Build Barracks
6:46.47: 466M 0G 39/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:46.47: 416M 0G 40/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:51.48: 536M 0G 41/ 60S - Calldown: MULE
6:51.48: 536M 0G 41/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:52.68: 528M 0G 42/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
6:52.68: 478M 0G 43/ 60S - Build Barracks
6:52.68: 328M 0G 43/ 60S - Build SCV
6:52.68: 278M 0G 44/ 60S - Build Supply Depot
7:00.29: 443M 0G 44/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:00.29: 393M 0G 45/ 60S - Build Supply Depot
7:00.29: 293M 0G 45/ 60S - Build SCV
7:00.29: 243M 0G 46/ 60S - Build Barracks
7:00.29: 93M 0G 46/ 60S - Build SCV
7:03.47: 157M 0G 47/ 60S - Build SCV
7:04.66: 149M 0G 48/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:06.03: 150M 0G 49/ 60S - Build Barracks
7:11.47: 200M 0G 49/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:11.47: 150M 0G 50/ 60S - Build SCV
7:11.47: 100M 0G 51/ 60S - Build Supply Depot
7:17.29: 217M 0G 51/ 60S - Build SCV
7:17.29: 167M 0G 52/ 60S - Build SCV
7:17.29: 117M 0G 53/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:17.29: 67M 0G 54/ 60S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:20.77: 150M 0G 55/ 60S - Build Barracks
7:22.09: 50M 0G 55/ 60S - Build SCV
7:23.38: 50M 0G 56/ 68S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:24.66: 50M 0G 57/ 68S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:24.66: 0M 0G 58/ 68S - Calldown: MULE
7:34.14: 396M 0G 58/ 76S - Calldown: MULE
7:34.14: 396M 0G 58/ 76S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:34.14: 346M 0G 59/ 76S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:34.14: 296M 0G 60/ 76S - Build SCV
7:36.47: 349M 0G 61/ 76S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:36.47: 299M 0G 62/ 76S - Build SCV
7:42.29: 525M 0G 63/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:42.29: 475M 0G 64/ 84S - Build Barracks
7:42.29: 325M 0G 64/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:42.29: 275M 0G 65/ 84S - Build SCV
7:48.38: 520M 0G 66/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:48.38: 470M 0G 67/ 84S - Build Supply Depot
7:48.38: 370M 0G 67/ 84S - Build Supply Depot
7:48.38: 270M 0G 67/ 84S - Build SCV
7:48.38: 220M 0G 68/ 84S - Build Barracks
7:50.14: 150M 0G 68/ 84S - Build Barracks
7:51.26: 50M 0G 68/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:51.26: 0M 0G 69/ 84S - Calldown: MULE
7:52.39: 50M 0G 69/ 84S - Build SCV
7:53.50: 50M 0G 70/ 84S - Build SCV
7:54.57: 50M 0G 71/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:57.68: 154M 0G 72/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:59.14: 180M 0G 73/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
7:59.14: 130M 0G 74/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:01.47: 200M 0G 75/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:01.47: 150M 0G 76/ 84S - Build SCV
8:05.29: 301M 0G 77/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:05.38: 256M 0G 78/ 84S - Build SCV
8:05.38: 206M 0G 79/ 84S - Build Barracks
8:07.21: 150M 0G 79/ 84S - Build Barracks
8:09.17: 100M 0G 79/ 84S - Build Supply Depot
8:10.17: 50M 0G 79/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:11.15: 50M 0G 80/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:12.12: 50M 0G 81/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:13.38: 66M 0G 82/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:16.26: 170M 0G 83/ 84S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:16.26: 120M 0G 84/ 84S - Build Supply Depot
8:18.38: 132M 0G 84/100S - Build SCV
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8:18.73: 50M 0G 86/100S - Build SCV
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8:22.38: 145M 0G 88/100S - Build SCV
8:22.38: 95M 0G 89/100S - Calldown: MULE
8:23.41: 150M 0G 89/100S - Build Barracks
8:24.34: 50M 0G 89/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:27.11: 150M 0G 90/100S - Build Barracks
8:28.01: 50M 0G 90/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:28.89: 50M 0G 91/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:29.77: 50M 0G 92/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:30.65: 50M 0G 93/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:32.40: 100M 0G 94/100S - Build Supply Depot
8:35.38: 170M 0G 94/100S - Build SCV
8:35.38: 120M 0G 95/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:35.38: 70M 0G 96/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:35.91: 50M 0G 97/100S - Build SCV
8:36.79: 50M 0G 98/100S - Build SCV
8:37.66: 50M 0G 99/100S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:39.17: 87M 0G 100/108S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:39.40: 50M 0G 101/108S - Build SCV
8:40.26: 50M 0G 102/108S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:41.26: 58M 0G 103/108S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:44.68: 206M 0G 104/108S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:47.29: 308M 0G 105/116S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:49.34: 377M 0G 106/116S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:49.34: 327M 0G 107/116S - Build Barracks
8:49.34: 177M 0G 107/116S - Build Barracks
8:49.34: 27M 0G 107/116S - Calldown: Extra Supplies
8:52.38: 201M 0G 107/116S - Build SCV
8:53.01: 188M 0G 108/116S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:53.01: 138M 0G 109/116S - Build Supply Depot
8:53.38: 59M 0G 109/116S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:54.10: 50M 0G 110/116S - Build SCV
8:54.96: 50M 0G 111/124S - Build SCV
8:55.82: 50M 0G 112/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:56.68: 50M 0G 113/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:57.54: 50M 0G 114/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
8:58.39: 50M 0G 115/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:00.38: 116M 0G 116/124S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:00.38: 66M 0G 117/124S - Build SCV
9:01.81: 100M 0G 118/124S - Build Supply Depot
9:02.66: 50M 0G 118/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:03.52: 50M 0G 119/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:04.37: 50M 0G 120/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:05.26: 52M 0G 121/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:05.26: 2M 0G 122/132S - Calldown: Extra Supplies
9:09.38: 243M 0G 122/132S - Build SCV
9:09.38: 193M 0G 123/132S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:11.10: 244M 0G 124/140S - Build SCV
9:11.96: 244M 0G 125/140S - Build SCV
9:17.38: 511M 0G 126/140S - Build SCV
9:17.38: 461M 0G 127/140S - Build Supply Depot
9:17.38: 361M 0G 127/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 311M 0G 128/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 261M 0G 129/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 211M 0G 130/140S - Build Refinery
9:17.38: 136M 0G 130/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 86M 0G 131/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:17.38: 36M 0G 132/140S - Calldown: Extra Supplies
9:18.01: 73M 0G 132/140S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:18.38: 45M 0G 133/140S - Lift Naked Barracks
9:23.38: 338M 0G 133/156S - Land Naked Barracks
9:26.38: 513M 0G 133/156S - Build SCV
9:26.38: 463M 0G 134/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:26.38: 413M 0G 135/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.10: 464M 0G 136/156S - Build SCV
9:28.10: 414M 0G 137/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.10: 364M 0G 138/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.10: 314M 0G 139/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.96: 314M 0G 140/156S - Build SCV
9:28.96: 264M 0G 141/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.96: 214M 0G 142/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.96: 164M 0G 143/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:28.96: 114M 0G 144/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:29.57: 100M 0G 145/156S - Build Supply Depot
9:30.43: 50M 0G 145/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:31.28: 50M 0G 146/156S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:34.38: 182M 0G 147/164S - Build SCV
9:34.38: 132M 0G 148/164S - Build Supply Depot
9:43.38: 558M 0G 148/164S - Build SCV
9:43.38: 508M 0G 149/164S - Build Supply Depot
9:43.38: 408M 0G 149/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:43.38: 358M 0G 150/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:43.38: 308M 0G 151/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:43.38: 258M 0G 152/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:45.10: 309M 0G 153/164S - Build SCV
9:45.96: 309M 0G 154/164S - Build SCV
9:45.96: 259M 0G 155/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:45.96: 209M 0G 156/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:45.96: 159M 0G 157/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:45.96: 109M 0G 158/164S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:51.38: 377M 0G 159/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:51.38: 327M 0G 160/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:51.38: 277M 0G 161/172S - Move Three SCVs To Gas
9:53.10: 377M 0G 161/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.10: 327M 0G 162/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.10: 277M 0G 163/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.96: 278M 0G 164/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.96: 228M 0G 165/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.96: 178M 0G 166/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:53.96: 128M 0G 167/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:54.34: 100M 1G 168/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:54.34: 50M 1G 169/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:55.43: 63M 1G 170/172S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
9:56.05: 50M 2G 171/172S - Build SCV
9:59.57: 206M 8G 172/180S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:00.38: 203M 10G 173/180S - Build SCV
10:02.10: 254M 13G 174/180S - Build SCV
10:02.96: 254M 14G 175/180S - Build SCV
10:02.96: 204M 14G 176/180S - Calldown: Extra Supplies
10:08.38: 522M 25G 176/196S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:08.38: 472M 25G 177/196S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:13.05: 695M 34G 178/196S - Build SCV
10:13.05: 645M 34G 179/196S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:13.05: 595M 34G 180/196S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:17.38: 798M 42G 181/204S - Build SCV
10:17.38: 748M 42G 182/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:17.38: 698M 42G 183/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:17.38: 648M 42G 184/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 699M 45G 185/204S - Build SCV
10:19.10: 649M 45G 186/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 599M 45G 187/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 549M 45G 188/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 499M 45G 189/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 449M 45G 190/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 399M 45G 191/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 349M 45G 192/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 299M 45G 193/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 249M 45G 194/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.10: 199M 45G 195/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.34: 163M 46G 196/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:19.96: 150M 47G 197/204S - Build SCV
10:19.96: 100M 47G 198/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks
10:20.43: 77M 48G 199/204S - Build Marine From Naked Barracks Waypoint 1 satisfied: 10:20.43: 27M 48G 200/204S Income: 3512M 114G Buildings: 12 Supply Depot 4 Extra Supply Depot 1 Refinery 21 Barracks 4 Orbital Command Units: 78 SCV 97 Marine Research: Edit: Another option you can use is to set maximum requirements for everything (ie, set all units to <= 200). It'll slow down a little bit, but should still work. However I'm finding it just seems to want to max out on thors for me... Not sure why...
Yes, this is what I did, I set everything to 200, that was what everything goes implied, and he wanted to max on out on thors for me first too, then he startet to suggest more and more hellions/hellbats as the hours past, at the end he was at 11:36 and even suggested a battlecruise xD, I stoped the programm after running for 9 hours, because I needed my pc for something else. I can`t open the savefile though, it crashes fusion, I just need to get it from my other computer, then I`ll upload the build save.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?k6eqlfsajahdlzd <<<crahes client  ,9hours of computing
Edit: I can open this actually on my win 7, but not on xp machine, but it doesn`t open it the right way
The only thing that is displayed:
+ Show Spoiler + 0:02,00: 50M 0G 6/ 11S - Build SCV
0:19,00: 73M 0G 7/ 11S - Build SCV
0:36,00: 106M 0G 8/ 11S - Build SCV
0:53,00: 150M 0G 9/ 11S - Build SCV
0:53,03: 100M 0G 10/ 11S - Build Supply Depot
1:10,00: 91M 0G 10/ 11S - Build SCV
Waypoint 1 failed:
1:29,00: 160M 0G 11/ 19S
Income: 471M 0G
Buildings: 1 Command Center 1 Supply Depot
Units: 11 SCV
Research:
And the setting with everything 200 max is still there, but he starts to calculate from zero again -.-
Update: Ok, Savefiles that were created on win7 are opened fine on win7. I Think the save system does not work on Xp yet : /
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On May 02 2013 18:04 HaRuHi wrote:
Update: Ok, Savefiles that were created on win7 are opened fine on win7. I Think the save system does not work on Xp yet : /
That seems to be correct, I have Windows XP and the program crashes when I open a save file.
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On May 03 2013 10:30 Moobla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 18:04 HaRuHi wrote:
Update: Ok, Savefiles that were created on win7 are opened fine on win7. I Think the save system does not work on Xp yet : / That seems to be correct, I have Windows XP and the program crashes when I open a save file.
Hmm, interesting. I opened the linked file on my system but it had no problems. I'll try and create a Win XP virtual machine and see what happens with that.
Edit: Although it did still stop after the 6th command. I'll look into that...
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Quick thing, i tried with fast battle cruiser on HOTS and it didnt show timing for Fusion Core, am i doing something wrong ?
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Just logged in to say how freakin awesome you are CarbonTwelve. Used your program since it first came out, haven't played sc2 for a long time but gonna run hots, wanna check some buildtimers out and which program is up to date? Yours  Wheres that paypal donate button?
<3
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any news about a new ver where gas micro for Z works?
Thanks!
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Sorry for the lack of updates everyone All I can say is being sick sucks, and being sick with a 12 month old daughter who's also sick sucks even more... Anyway, we're on the mend, which means a new version is out:
SCFusion v1.13:
Bug Fixes:
Gas Micro no longer causes crashes for Zerg
Nitro Packs removed
Drilling Claws added
Battlecruiser Fusion Core requirement added
Morphing buildings are included in target values
Fixed crash when loading long build orders
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Thanks a lot and get well.
Good health for you and your family!
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I really like this program because it is so nice, but when I enter the generated build into sc2planner, the time went from 8:28 to 10:50. With a little optimization of gas mining, I got the time to 10:18 and I didn't notice much waste other than that, so I think the difference comes from mining rates, it would be awesome if the user could set these. Thanks for designing this, being a father sounds involved.
sc2planner
build.xml
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Used the SCFusion_v1.13_Installer.exe and extracted to a folder on my desktop
I get an error about WinSparkle.dll missing when I try to start sc2fusion
Using the regular setup seems to work fine. Just a heads up
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