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btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
October 24 2010 17:03 GMT
#421
Well this sucks, my favorite zerg was Idra followed by Cool as a close second. Now I have to find room for my favorite random player TLO?

Your making my life hard TLO, but I still love you.
"Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined." Learn how to post: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
October 24 2010 17:08 GMT
#422
Of course now feels like funny timing to switch to Z when Z is probably on its best patch to date. Reasoning makes sense though - if you like being active early game then reapers "taken off the game" seems pretty huge change to own gameplay.

GL with the swarm!
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
October 24 2010 17:14 GMT
#423
On October 25 2010 02:08 Ouga wrote:
Of course now feels like funny timing to switch to Z when Z is probably on its best patch to date. Reasoning makes sense though - if you like being active early game then reapers "taken off the game" seems pretty huge change to own gameplay.

GL with the swarm!

Not just reapers. Roach range has a major effect on hellion harass as well, and TLO was favoring a lot of that in GSL1.
HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
October 24 2010 17:18 GMT
#424
On October 24 2010 02:31 Nagano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 02:28 lim1017 wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:25 Meff wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

Makes sense. TLO is a strong all-around player (as opposed to specialized, mono-race ones) and he's a beacon of creativity. I think that it would be interesting to see the way he can exploit the changes put forth by each new patch.



spin master right here.

On a side note i believe pre patch zergs deserve some credit for sticking to their guns (even though i never really thought they were UP much), we see a whole bunch of people switching/trying zerg our after only a couple weeks of this new patch


I agree. I have much respect for the people who make their race work, whether or not it's considered stronger than the others.

Idra, zenio, Fruitdealer, all these guys stuck it out, made it work, and that's why they have the respect they do.

TLO switching immediately after a patch like this is a little disappointing.


You have a warped perspective. Zerg has always been strongest. Most boring, most susceptible to cheese and most difficult to play, but they've always been the best out of the three. Recent patch only made it more obvious. Notice the difference between a classy player like TLO and someone like Dimaga, Fruitseller or Idra (no offense to any of them), when he doesn't threaten to switch -- he simply does it.

Anyway, best of luck to TLO. I don't believe he'll suddenly start beating 100% zerg users in ZvZ but we'll see.
You can figure out the other half.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
October 24 2010 17:21 GMT
#425
On October 25 2010 02:18 HalfAmazing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 02:31 Nagano wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:28 lim1017 wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:25 Meff wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

Makes sense. TLO is a strong all-around player (as opposed to specialized, mono-race ones) and he's a beacon of creativity. I think that it would be interesting to see the way he can exploit the changes put forth by each new patch.



spin master right here.

On a side note i believe pre patch zergs deserve some credit for sticking to their guns (even though i never really thought they were UP much), we see a whole bunch of people switching/trying zerg our after only a couple weeks of this new patch


I agree. I have much respect for the people who make their race work, whether or not it's considered stronger than the others.

Idra, zenio, Fruitdealer, all these guys stuck it out, made it work, and that's why they have the respect they do.

TLO switching immediately after a patch like this is a little disappointing.


You have a warped perspective. Zerg has always been strongest. Most boring, most susceptible to cheese and most difficult to play, but they've always been the best out of the three. Recent patch only made it more obvious. Notice the difference between a classy player like TLO and someone like Dimaga, Fruitseller or Idra (no offense to any of them), when he doesn't threaten to switch -- he simply does it.

Anyway, best of luck to TLO. I don't believe he'll suddenly start beating 100% zerg users in ZvZ but we'll see.

Especially Sen and Dimaga, in the most unfortunate bracket ever.
tardygamer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States20 Posts
October 24 2010 17:22 GMT
#426
On October 25 2010 02:18 HalfAmazing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 02:31 Nagano wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:28 lim1017 wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:25 Meff wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

Makes sense. TLO is a strong all-around player (as opposed to specialized, mono-race ones) and he's a beacon of creativity. I think that it would be interesting to see the way he can exploit the changes put forth by each new patch.



spin master right here.

On a side note i believe pre patch zergs deserve some credit for sticking to their guns (even though i never really thought they were UP much), we see a whole bunch of people switching/trying zerg our after only a couple weeks of this new patch


I agree. I have much respect for the people who make their race work, whether or not it's considered stronger than the others.

Idra, zenio, Fruitdealer, all these guys stuck it out, made it work, and that's why they have the respect they do.

TLO switching immediately after a patch like this is a little disappointing.


You have a warped perspective. Zerg has always been strongest.


Hmm. Tell me who's having a warped perspective again?
I am so banned.
Awesomesauce
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium69 Posts
October 24 2010 17:25 GMT
#427
On October 25 2010 02:18 HalfAmazing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 02:31 Nagano wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:28 lim1017 wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:25 Meff wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

Makes sense. TLO is a strong all-around player (as opposed to specialized, mono-race ones) and he's a beacon of creativity. I think that it would be interesting to see the way he can exploit the changes put forth by each new patch.



spin master right here.

On a side note i believe pre patch zergs deserve some credit for sticking to their guns (even though i never really thought they were UP much), we see a whole bunch of people switching/trying zerg our after only a couple weeks of this new patch


I agree. I have much respect for the people who make their race work, whether or not it's considered stronger than the others.

Idra, zenio, Fruitdealer, all these guys stuck it out, made it work, and that's why they have the respect they do.

TLO switching immediately after a patch like this is a little disappointing.


You have a warped perspective. Zerg has always been strongest. Most boring, most susceptible to cheese and most difficult to play, but they've always been the best out of the three. Recent patch only made it more obvious. Notice the difference between a classy player like TLO and someone like Dimaga, Fruitseller or Idra (no offense to any of them), when he doesn't threaten to switch -- he simply does it.

Anyway, best of luck to TLO. I don't believe he'll suddenly start beating 100% zerg users in ZvZ but we'll see.


Fruitdealer is a classy player!
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
October 24 2010 17:25 GMT
#428
I can't really blame him for this, ultimately his job is to play the game and win. If he feels like he can do that better with zerg than all the more power to him.

I'm happy that there was no drama involved, he just switched.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
October 24 2010 17:25 GMT
#429
On October 25 2010 02:22 tardygamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 02:18 HalfAmazing wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:31 Nagano wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:28 lim1017 wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:25 Meff wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:17 tieya wrote:
terran gets strong he goes to terran, zerg gets strong he goes to zerg

lets see if he will stick to a race

Makes sense. TLO is a strong all-around player (as opposed to specialized, mono-race ones) and he's a beacon of creativity. I think that it would be interesting to see the way he can exploit the changes put forth by each new patch.



spin master right here.

On a side note i believe pre patch zergs deserve some credit for sticking to their guns (even though i never really thought they were UP much), we see a whole bunch of people switching/trying zerg our after only a couple weeks of this new patch


I agree. I have much respect for the people who make their race work, whether or not it's considered stronger than the others.

Idra, zenio, Fruitdealer, all these guys stuck it out, made it work, and that's why they have the respect they do.

TLO switching immediately after a patch like this is a little disappointing.


You have a warped perspective. Zerg has always been strongest.


Hmm. Tell me who's having a warped perspective again?

Regardless, apparently TLO was practicing Zerg BEFORE the patch. He just had yet to enter any tournaments. It's not "bad" for him to switch. If anything, it's expected. If you are capable of playing better, wether it be through switching races, build order, practice, or anything else, you damn well better do that, for your sponsors, if not for yourself.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 24 2010 17:25 GMT
#430
People seem to be missing the reasoning for the switch, or at least the given reason. He wanted to play as Zerg from the start but Terran were more conducive to a creative style. Now Zerg are the most conducive to his playstyle so he's gone for that. Yeah, the buff to Zerg is what has allowed him to express himself through the race, but that's not to say that he's jumped to Zerg based on strength.

Anyway, I've always felt TLO's Zerg was exciting, can't wait to see him using them again. Hopefully he does decently in GSL3.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
SuperCobra
Profile Joined September 2010
47 Posts
October 24 2010 17:29 GMT
#431
even if a player says "i play the race that is most op atm because i want to win "... if he can handle multiple races good, and he makes his money with gaming, its okay and comprehensible imho.

ontopic : TLO Had to choose between zerg and terran for tournaments (because most of them dont allow racepicking and his pvp really sucked compared to the other MUs) and back then terran was really strong in all aspects. Now the patches seem to have cripled many t builds, so why should he keep on play around with T, as most of his Z builds still work or are even stronger than end-beta.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 24 2010 17:50 GMT
#432
my favorite player in sc2, who had the most fun and amazing Zerg play, switches back to the swarm?

im happy <3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Hizzo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States193 Posts
October 24 2010 17:57 GMT
#433
"Hell, it's about time"

He should have never went T. That was my biggest disappointment seeing TLO go from Z to T. At least he's back.
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champignones
Profile Joined September 2008
Panama160 Posts
October 24 2010 18:01 GMT
#434
zerg imba

User was temp banned for this post.
you shouldnt worry if everybody ignore you, you should be worry when they dont anymore.
isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
October 24 2010 18:03 GMT
#435
On October 24 2010 18:16 Karmond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 18:04 StarcraftMan wrote:I think the top 4 in the GSL end up as Z, Z, Z, Z, and Blizzard will be forced to use the nerf hammer once again.

I think brackets A, B and D will have a Zerg winner. But I'm not so sure about C.


I think this has less to do with Zerg being overpowered and more to do with the Zerg players in those brackets.
Loose lips sink ships
brothathunda
Profile Joined July 2010
United States35 Posts
October 24 2010 18:28 GMT
#436
I'm a little disappointed as a Terran player TBH. His zerg play is just as unique and fun to watch as his Terran play, but him switching to Zerg seems like he's going "the easy way out". I like people who stick to their guns. If you played Terran originally, stick to it.

To give a metaphor I absolutely hate LeBron. If you're a basketball fan at all I shouldn't have to explain everything HE did to take the easy way out.

I still love TLO though and will support him in his Zerg endeavours.
sex pot AKA Monkies AKA Chris
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
October 24 2010 18:30 GMT
#437
On October 25 2010 01:53 Skeyser wrote:
Terran is OP
*switches to Terran*
Terran gets nerfed
*switches to Zerg*

Kinda lame, hope he sticks with it now


He was playing Terran and Zerg BEFORE it was "OP". Also, he made the final call to play Terran because of the wide variety of openers that Terran had compared to a pretty 1 directional Zerg play-style. Now that the patch has come, Zerg has many more openers for example: Baneling bust, 5 Roach rush, any 1 base play, and early expo economy. It seems to me like Zerg has many many more viable openers now, after the patch. I don't think TLO switches due to balances but his play style and now it can be applied to Zerg.

Pretty sad that many people here loved TLO when he was dominating the tournaments and now that he failed in the two GSL's (especially early in GSL 2) everyone is losing interest. I understand fully his decision to switch and I hope he does better next GSL.
Being weak is a choice.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
October 24 2010 18:31 GMT
#438
On October 25 2010 03:28 brothathunda wrote:
I'm a little disappointed as a Terran player TBH. His zerg play is just as unique and fun to watch as his Terran play, but him switching to Zerg seems like he's going "the easy way out". I like people who stick to their guns. If you played Terran originally, stick to it.

To give a metaphor I absolutely hate LeBron. If you're a basketball fan at all I shouldn't have to explain everything HE did to take the easy way out.

I still love TLO though and will support him in his Zerg endeavours.


Well he never played Terran originally

He was always torn between Zerg and Terran and if it wasn't for the ZvZ matchup which now seems to be a lot deeper than it was when he had to make the decision to stick to one race, he would have picked Zerg back then already.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
October 24 2010 18:31 GMT
#439
I think zerg is more fitting to your playstyle TLO, glad to see you switch.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
brothathunda
Profile Joined July 2010
United States35 Posts
October 24 2010 18:36 GMT
#440
I guess so TBO, I just think it was a bad time to switch. Even if it was with all the right intentions, given the recent patch, it makes it seem like he's just hoping from Terran to Zerg given the recent difficulties Terran has been having since the 1.1.2 patch.

I do agree that Zerg fits TLO's play style a bit more than Terran though. So I'm sure it will work out for him. Just disappointed as a Terran player I guess.
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