EPTThe required number of extractors is not taken into account.
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
The required number of extractors is not taken into account. | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
On October 25 2010 07:52 Dudemeister wrote: Man I'm not sure what I am doing wrong. When I do the build you specified I get the 7 roaches popping at almost exactly 5:00 every time. What can be the cause of this? The program builds all the 7 roaches at the same time but I never have money for 7, only 6. Sure there are small timing things like moving drones for building etc but thye should not amount to 30 seconds extra. I know, this happens to me also, everytime a do any build calculated with this i am off by 5 sec every min. so 4:35 + 23 sec delay = 4:58 :-D But you will be by the same amount behind also with the build from first page. | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On October 25 2010 08:32 Catyoul wrote: Bug report : The required number of extractors is not taken into account. Yes I was about to post that last night but I noticed that the project's website has a section where you can post bug reports, and that bug was already reported (bugs are listed as "issue" ) : http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/updates/list | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On October 25 2010 08:43 icezar wrote: I know, this happens to me also, everytime a do any build calculated with this i am off by 5 sec every min. so 4:35 + 23 sec delay = 4:58 :-D But you will be by the same amount behind also with the build from first page. Yea I thought i was doing something wrong, but I guess it's what the others have mentioned in this thread, that the program doesn't account for drone travel times (to make buildings, to make expos, etc) which leads to the problem of not being able to replicate the build timing ingame. But from what I'm hearing, that's going to be fixed soon. | ||
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Loxon
United States20 Posts
I BELIEVE they have it set at a solid 2 seconds after a bunch of testing to see how long it takes for the drone to get to the minerals/gas from a spawn location. I'm not sure which build is the current release, but this is even more important since they also coded in the ability for the AI to pull drones on and off of gas. | ||
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
On October 25 2010 08:44 Dionyseus wrote: Yes I was about to post that last night but I noticed that the project's website has a section where you can post bug reports, and that bug was already reported (bugs are listed as "issue" ) : http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/updates/list Sweet apparently it's already fixed in the latest revision  | ||
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metaldragon
United States251 Posts
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Wire
United States494 Posts
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azzu
Germany141 Posts
On October 25 2010 06:00 icezar wrote: Just to verify i tried the "demo" build Fast 7 Roach - what is the record on that? After 5 min. i got them by 4:34! 6 sec faster than in first post (i know of a build around 5th page with 4:39). I am letting it run until morning. + Show Spoiler + @0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:12 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:23 M:53 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:29 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:32 M:50 G:0 L:2 S  /10 BuildDrone@0:40 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:49 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:49 M:104 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord @0:59 M:75 G:0 L:1 S:10/10 ExtractorTrick @0:59 M:50 G:0 L:1 S /10 BuildDrone@1:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:01 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored @1:14 Spawned: Overlord+1 @1:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:16 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:24 M:202 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildSpawningPool @1:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:31 M:52 G:0 L:3 S:10/18 BuildDrone @1:38 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone @1:45 M:51 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone @1:46 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:48 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:52 M:55 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @1:55 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:01 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:01 M:80 G:0 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:02 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:02 M:40 G:0 L:0 S:15/18 BuildExtractor @2:09 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:16 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:16 M:140 G:0 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:18 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:29 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @2:31 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:31 M:238 G:0 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone @2:32 Spawned: Extractor+1 @2:32 M:196 G:1 L:0 S:16/18 BuildQueen @2:33 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:46 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:46 M:166 G:28 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @2:48 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:01 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:01 M:205 G:56 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @3:11 Spawned: Overlord+1 @3:11 M:197 G:76 L:0 S:18/26 BuildRoachWarren @3:16 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:22 Spawned: Queen+1 @3:26 Spawned: Overlord+1 @3:31 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:46 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:06 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @4:06 M:520 G:180 L:3 S:17/34 BuildRoach @4:06 M:445 G:155 L:2 S:19/34 BuildRoach @4:06 M:370 G:130 L:1 S:21/34 BuildRoach @4:07 Spawned: Larva+4 @4:07 M:304 G:107 L:4 S:23/34 BuildRoach @4:07 M:229 G:82 L:3 S:25/34 BuildRoach @4:07 M:154 G:57 L:2 S:27/34 BuildRoach @4:07 M:79 G:32 L:1 S:29/34 BuildRoach @4:21 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:33 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:33 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:33 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:34 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:34 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:34 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:34 Spawned: Roach+1 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 37 ---Final Output--- At time: 4:34 Minerals: 236 Gas: 58 Supply: 31/34 Drones: 15 Overlords: 4 Queens: 1 Roaches: 7 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 ------------------ Sun Oct 24 22:59:44 CEST 2010: 598667.22006255 the first 7RR was done with a bugged version where a lair had no mineral patches to mine from. On October 25 2010 07:24 Maelkyral wrote: Would there be some way to change it so it optimizes drone count instead of time? I think this is the more useful approach for a Zerg player; I generally want to know the strongest economy I can set up while getting enough stuff by the right time to cope with what my opponent is doing to me. this is already being worked on | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On October 25 2010 11:32 Wire wrote: anyone else getting a problem where trying to get say 10 roaches in under 6:30 results in 10 overlords o_0; I got it down to 5:23: + Show Spoiler + @0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:12 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:23 M:53 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:29 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:32 M:50 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@0:40 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:49 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:49 M:104 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord @0:59 M:75 G:0 L:1 S:10/10 ExtractorTrick @0:59 M:50 G:0 L:1 S /10 BuildDrone@1:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:01 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored @1:14 Spawned: Overlord+1 @1:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:16 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:24 M:202 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildSpawningPool @1:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:31 M:52 G:0 L:3 S:10/18 BuildDrone @1:38 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone @1:45 M:51 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone @1:46 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:48 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:52 M:55 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @1:55 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:01 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:01 M:80 G:0 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:02 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:09 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:16 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:16 M:174 G:0 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone @2:18 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:29 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @2:29 M:261 G:0 L:0 S:16/18 BuildExtractor @2:29 M:236 G:0 L:0 S:15/18 BuildQueen @2:31 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:31 M:106 G:0 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone @2:33 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:46 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:46 M:213 G:0 L:1 S:18/18 BuildRoachWarren @2:46 M:63 G:0 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone @2:48 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:59 Spawned: Extractor+1 @3:01 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:01 M:165 G:5 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @3:03 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:16 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:19 Spawned: Queen+1 @3:19 M:231 G:39 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @3:26 Spawned: Overlord+1 @3:31 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:31 M:242 G:62 L:1 S:18/26 BuildOverlord @3:41 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @3:44 Spawned: Overlord+1 @3:46 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:46 M:281 G 1 L:1 S:18/34 BuildRoach@3:56 Spawned: Overlord+1 @4:01 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:01 M:344 G 4 L:1 S:20/42 BuildRoach@4:04 Spawned: Larva+4 @4:04 M:297 G:75 L:4 S:22/42 BuildRoach @4:04 M:222 G:50 L:3 S:24/42 BuildZergling @4:13 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:13 M:255 G:67 L:2 S:25/42 BuildRoach @4:13 M:180 G:42 L:1 S:27/42 BuildRoach @4:13 M:105 G:17 L:0 S:29/42 BuildExtractor @4:16 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:17 M:115 G:25 L:1 S:28/42 BuildRoach @4:28 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:28 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:31 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:31 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:31 M:160 G:26 L:1 S:30/42 BuildRoach @4:40 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:40 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:43 Spawned: Extractor+1 @4:44 Spawned: Roach+1 @4:46 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:46 M:205 G:37 L:1 S:32/42 BuildRoach @4:49 Spawned: Larva+4 @4:50 M:156 G:28 L:4 S:34/42 BuildRoach @4:56 M:119 G:25 L:3 S:36/42 BuildRoach @4:57 M:50 G:4 L:2 S:38/42 BuildZergling @4:58 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:01 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:05 M:51 G:35 L:2 S:39/42 BuildDrone @5:13 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:16 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:17 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:21 Spawned: Zergling+2 @5:22 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:23 Spawned: Roach+1 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 48 ---Final Output--- At time: 5:23 Minerals: 117 Gas: 103 Supply: 40/42 Drones: 16 Overlords: 5 Queens: 1 Zerglings: 4 Roaches: 10 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 2 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 | ||
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Lomilar
United States130 Posts
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Lomilar
United States130 Posts
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Lomilar
United States130 Posts
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
On October 25 2010 14:24 Lomilar wrote: There are problems with 0016. 0017 coming out soon. Don't use 0016 if you can help it. :-) :-)) i am running 6 of them on 3 computers now :-)) | ||
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Lomilar
United States130 Posts
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
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Lomilar
United States130 Posts
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teemh
Canada120 Posts
My hero. Thanks man. | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
On October 25 2010 14:53 Lomilar wrote: It should save it into the same directory as the previous version. It did, just that i already had it downloaded :-D and it overwrited without asking Is it me or the new ver is much slower? | ||
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