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ooni
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Australia1498 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 06:47:46
October 10 2010 14:32 GMT
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Q : 본선 진출 소감?
A : 예선전이라는 것을 오랜만에 했고, 마지막에 승리한 후 손이 파르르 떨렸다.
이런 감정을 너무 오랜만에 봐서 기분이 좋다. 64강 본선에서 다시 팬분들을 볼 수 있어 기분이 좋다, 앞으로 열심히 할일만이 남았다.

Q : 오늘 경기를 보면 준비가 많았던것 같다. 준비된 전략인지?
A : 예선이라 전략을 딱히 짜온 것은 없다. 상황상황에 맞게 대응했다.
상대가 중반 이후의 전략이라 벙커링이 통할 것 같았다. 또한 실패해도 벙커 회수가 가능하기에 하고싶은 대로

했다.

Q : 스타2를 하기까지
A : 오랜 팬들과 자주 뵙지 못했던 많은 팬분들을 다시 볼 수 있었다. 여자 친구 김가연씨 역시 내조를 너무 잘해줬다. 필요한 것 있으면 바로 바로 구해줬고 경기에 집중할 수 있도록 많은 도움을 줬다.

그 외에도 도움을 주거나 조언을 준 동료들이 많았다.


Q : 시즌2에 참가했던 이유?
A : 시즌1부터 참가하고 싶었다. 꽤 많은 분들이 관심있게 지켜보고 계시고 시끄러워질 소지가 많아서 신중하게 진행했다. 구단과의 사전 협의 등 많은 부분을 해결하다 보니 모습을 비추지 못했다.

Q : 목표가 있다면?
A : 일단 64강 진출이 목표였고, 코드 S를 받아 안정적으로 스타2 리그에 참가하고 싶다.

Q : 붙고 싶은 상대가 있다면?
A : 시작하는 단계니깐? 라이벌이나 이슈가 될 만한 선수들과의 경기가 성사될 것 같다.
라이벌이 생겨야 실력 향상 면에서 좋을 것 같다.
네임드가 있는 선수들이 많이 올라와서 많은 팬분들이 재미있게 GSL을 즐겼으면 좋겠다.

Q : 앞으로 팀 활동 계획이 있는지?
A : 일단 혼자는 힘들고 팀이 필요한 것 동감한다. 전략을 공유하고 조언해주는 사람이 필요한데 혼자 할 수 밖에 없어 답답했다.

하지만 아직 팀에 들어갈 계획은 해본적이 없다. 매번 화재가 되기 때문에 신중히 결정해야 할 것 같다.


Q : 다시 뵙는 팬분들께 하고 싶은 말
A : 기다려주시는 팬분들에게 아무런 결과도 알려줄 수 없어 죄송했다. 시끄러워지는 것을 염려해서 카페 활동도 많이 하지 못했다.
앞으로는 카페활동도 열심히 하고 팬분들께 보답하기 위해 노력할 것이다. 많은 관심 부탁드린다.


Q : 벙커 회수나 드랍쉽이 임요환 선수를 위해 있을 정도라고 할 정도인데...
A : 스타2에서 꼭 테란만 유불리가 있는 건 아닌 것 같다. 저그도 가시 촉수 이동이 가능하고...
하지만 있는 전략이고 가능한 전략이라면 가리지 않고 '악마스럽게' 최대한 활용할 것이다.


Q : 테란을 고집하는 이유는?
A : 팬분들이 저에게 테란 경기를 기대하기 때문에 선택했다. 하지만 패치에 따라 변화가 너무 커서, 패치 결과에 따라 종족을 바꿀지도 모르겠다.


Q : 테란에 만족하는지?
A : 매번 테란을 하향을 하고 있어서 약간 불만이 있다. 블리자드에서 사용자 수나 팀플레이에 맞춰서 패치하는 경향이 있다. 또 저그가 우승했는데 저그 상향은 약간 이해가 안가는 부분이다.


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Hard to believe this man is 'suddenly 30'

The Interview
Q: Your feelings on qualifying for Ro64?
A: I haven't felt like this for a long time, so I'm feeling delighted. I'm happy because I get to see my fans again in the Ro64, only thing left is giving it my all.

Q: It looked like you prepared a lot for today's matches. Were the strategies prepared?
A: It was the qualifiers so I didn't have specific strategies prepared. I just reacted depending on the situation. The opponent's strategy was a late game strategy so I thought bunker rush would work. Also even I failed, it is possible to salvage the bunker so I did what I wanted.

Q: Until you played Starcraft 2 (guessing he's asking what boxer did just before/during the qualifiers)
A: I was able to meet long-time fans and fans that I was unable to see for a long time. Of course my girlfriend Kim Ga Yun supported me a lot. If I needed something she immediately find/get it for me and this helped me concentrate on my matches.
Also I had a lot of peers who helped me and gave me some advices.

Q: What was the reason for entering GSL Season 2?
I wanted to enter GSL from Season 1. A lot of people seem to be interested in it and could been a controversial issue so I acted cautiously. Because I was trying to work out a consultation and etc with my team beforehand, I did not (have the chance to) attend.

Q: Do you have a goal in mind?
A: First my goal was to qualify for Ro64, (now) I want to receive Code S and have safe placement for SC2 League.

Q: Do you have any opponent you want to face?
A: Well it is a starting stage for me... If there were players that could be my rival or someone I have an issue with then I think the matches will turn out well.
I think having a rival will be good for increasing my skills.
It would be good if a lot of notable players were to get through (the qualifiers) so a lot of fans could enjoy GSL.

Q: Are you going to be playing in a team in the near future?
A: First I agree playing without a team is arduous and a team is needed. Because I needed someone who could share strategy with and someone who could give me some pointers, it was quite frustrating.
However, I have not planned to join a team as of yet. It has always been controversial so I think it has to be a careful decision.

Q: What do you want to say to the fans that get to see you again?
I felt sorry for fans that waited for me, I could not even deliver any result (=news) (regarding my situation). Just in case the situation intensified I could not even work on my cafe (=blog) activities.
From now on I will work hard on my cafe (=blog) and put a lot of effort to give some back to the fans.

Q: Some people say (SC2's) Salvage and Dropships (=medivacs) were made, Boxer in mind...
A: In SC2, it is not only Terran that has favourable (options). Zerg can still move their spinecrawlers... (I'm assuming the rest is not written down by the interviewer)
However, the strategy exists and if it's a possible strategy I will not be hesitant and will use them 'devilishly' to the full extent.

Q: Why stick with Terran?
A: I chose Terran because the fans expected Terran matches from me. However, the game changes a lot with every patch so I might change my race depending on the results of the (future) patches.

Q: Are you satisfied with Terran?
A: I am slightly displeased with the multiple Terran nerfs (including recent ones). Blizzard has tendency to balance for team games and number of players (of each race). Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.

Source: http://star2.gamechosun.co.kr/board/view.php?bid=sc2e&num=28217
Hi!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 10 2010 14:37 GMT
#2
Nice interview =) Looking forward to seeing him play
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henjebenje
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia73 Posts
October 10 2010 14:38 GMT
#3
thanks for the translation!
The Sun & the Moon
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 14:39:13
October 10 2010 14:38 GMT
#4
AWESOME ! but i dont get why he keeps saying it was controversial
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JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
October 10 2010 14:39 GMT
#5
Boxer is displeased with the Terran nerfs.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
October 10 2010 14:40 GMT
#6
YEEEESSSSSSSSS the number of viewers for RO64 is going to SKYROCKET
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 14:41:23
October 10 2010 14:40 GMT
#7
On October 10 2010 23:38 desrow wrote:
AWESOME ! but i dont get why he keeps saying it was controversial

It was controversial every time he made/switch to a new team.
Or could been me for lack of better word.
I also tried to reduce the word "fan" in his responses. I couldn't there was no other word for it.
Hi!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 10 2010 14:40 GMT
#8
On October 10 2010 23:39 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
Boxer is displeased with the Terran nerfs.


Boxer, our hero!
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 10 2010 14:41 GMT
#9
Nice job, I'm not surprised he's disliking the T nerfs, depot before rax and fact requirement for reaper upgrade is not good for Boxers style of play.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
October 10 2010 14:41 GMT
#10
Very good interview. Excited for GSL 2 sooooo much
Life is Good.
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
October 10 2010 14:42 GMT
#11
Are you going to be playing in a team in the near future?

TLAF-Liquid`BoxeR
make it happen
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Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
October 10 2010 14:42 GMT
#12
Thanks for the translation I'm so happy to see Boxer back and getting really pumped. Strange to see why he's frustrated with Zerg getting buffs though, is he having a lot of trouble with Zerg practice partners?
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KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
October 10 2010 14:43 GMT
#13
he's kinda right, zerg was just winning and they buff zerg

not QQ'ing whatsoever but blizzard is more interested in buffing zerg instead of balancing the game
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Omar91
Profile Joined April 2010
Angola620 Posts
October 10 2010 14:43 GMT
#14
Boxer you are my Terran Hero :')
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
October 10 2010 14:46 GMT
#15
On October 10 2010 23:43 KTF_CloaK wrote:
he's kinda right, zerg was just winning and they buff zerg

not QQ'ing whatsoever but blizzard is more interested in buffing zerg instead of balancing the game


buffing zerg is a part of balancing the game.. they need it.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
October 10 2010 14:50 GMT
#16
Let's not change this into balance talk please. Enough of it already.

I hope to see him atleast up till the ro16.
<3 DongRaeGu <3
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
October 10 2010 14:50 GMT
#17
He must be feeling so glad to actually qualify for something again.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 14:53:46
October 10 2010 14:52 GMT
#18
god has spoken

zerg is OP

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nice to see boxer qualifying though! hope to see him pull off some crazy stuff in ro64
POGGERS
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 14:54:46
October 10 2010 14:54 GMT
#19
Protoss Emperor Boxer I believe.

edit:
Anyone knows who he is playing in ro64 ? an onwards? Pm me or reply here :p
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
mechler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States26 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 14:55:54
October 10 2010 14:55 GMT
#20
Q: Do you have a goal in mind?
A: First my goal was to qualify for Ro64, (now) I want to receive Code S and have safe placement for SC2 League.

What does Code S mean?
Always keep score.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
October 10 2010 14:55 GMT
#21
Boxer is playing SC2

Isnt that a big enough nerf to Zerg?
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
October 10 2010 14:58 GMT
#22
Looking forward to seeing this guy in Ro64! :D

(See what all the hype is about)
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
October 10 2010 14:58 GMT
#23
Great interview. I am glad he will be updating his blog more now that he has switched to SC2.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
October 10 2010 14:58 GMT
#24
On October 10 2010 23:43 KTF_CloaK wrote:
he's kinda right, zerg was just winning and they buff zerg

not QQ'ing whatsoever but blizzard is more interested in buffing zerg instead of balancing the game


Prolly why theres 17 terrans and 5 zerg qualified so far. Could all be probability, or it could be imbalances. Blizzard and most progamers seem to think zerg still needs some buffs, and we will see after that comes out if they where right or wrong.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
October 10 2010 15:00 GMT
#25
On October 10 2010 23:55 mechler wrote:
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Q: Do you have a goal in mind?
A: First my goal was to qualify for Ro64, (now) I want to receive Code S and have safe placement for SC2 League.

What does Code S mean?


Gamers who are code S are among the best players of the entire pool.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 10 2010 15:01 GMT
#26
AH! It makes me so excited to see BoxeR in an individual league again. Clearly he's enjoying the spotlight too. Awesome.

(Tweeted.)
✌
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
October 10 2010 15:01 GMT
#27
On October 10 2010 23:55 mechler wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: Do you have a goal in mind?
A: First my goal was to qualify for Ro64, (now) I want to receive Code S and have safe placement for SC2 League.

What does Code S mean?

Code S do not have to go through the qualifiers, it means the player is seeded. After 3 Seasons of GSL, top players are seeded and will automatically advance to Ro64 for the next year.
Hi!
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
October 10 2010 15:02 GMT
#28
Boxer @ teamsearch. I think after today he´ll get flooded with invites. Also I think it will get quite a lot of attention to the GSL when several brood war legends qualify. Can´t wait to see boxer play prepaired against an opponent.
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Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
October 10 2010 15:02 GMT
#29
These tears are like nectar to the zerg
Dead girls don't say no.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
October 10 2010 15:04 GMT
#30
Boxer is a TLO fan.
Therefore Boxer will join oGs.

One can dream right?
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 10 2010 15:06 GMT
#31
He probably doesn't know that if you say zerg isn't underpowered a swarm of bronze players and one particulary whiny good player will flame him to death.
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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 10 2010 15:06 GMT
#32
Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.


I think pro shouldn't think this way.

You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 10 2010 15:06 GMT
#33
On October 11 2010 00:04 GTR wrote:
Boxer is a TLO fan.
Therefore Boxer will join oGs.

One can dream right?

If he's a TLO fan he should of course join Liquid...
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 10 2010 15:06 GMT
#34
On October 11 2010 00:04 GTR wrote:
Boxer is a TLO fan.
Therefore Boxer will join oGs.

One can dream right?


Well you would get called a retard if you stated that such a succesfull progamer like NaDa would join a "shit team" like oGs and look what happend.

So in my mind its still very possible
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 10 2010 15:08 GMT
#35
On October 11 2010 00:06 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 00:04 GTR wrote:
Boxer is a TLO fan.
Therefore Boxer will join oGs.

One can dream right?


Well you would get called a retard if you stated that such a succesfull progamer like NaDa would join a "shit team" like oGs and look what happend.

So in my mind its still very possible

I'm not sure who would classify oGs as a shit team.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 10 2010 15:08 GMT
#36
Nice interview, thanks for the translation.
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ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
October 10 2010 15:08 GMT
#37
On October 11 2010 00:06 Alpina wrote:
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Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.


I think pro shouldn't think this way.


He's probably thinking it's too early too tell. Or he has been pounded by Zergs on the ladder. Who knows~
Hi!
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
October 10 2010 15:11 GMT
#38
i hope i can see Boxer play. the streams recently for me are chappy and so much lag
yoyo!
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 15:12:10
October 10 2010 15:12 GMT
#39
On October 11 2010 00:08 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 00:06 Senx wrote:
On October 11 2010 00:04 GTR wrote:
Boxer is a TLO fan.
Therefore Boxer will join oGs.

One can dream right?


Well you would get called a retard if you stated that such a succesfull progamer like NaDa would join a "shit team" like oGs and look what happend.

So in my mind its still very possible

I'm not sure who would classify oGs as a shit team.


Ignorant fans of NaDa I guess, I guess NaDa himself realized that there wouldn't be any major corporations sponsoring teams so he might aswell go for the one that seemed most established one in SC2 and had its own training house etc.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
VarmVaffel
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway378 Posts
October 10 2010 15:17 GMT
#40
Boxer is such a mannered guy, good interview! Really looking forward to the second season now!
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
October 10 2010 15:27 GMT
#41
Boxer to Protoss. Or Zerg. Come on man, switch it up a bit. Terran are already strong, theres no need for you to make it unbeatable with your IMBA strategies =P.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 10 2010 15:48 GMT
#42
If there were players that could be my rival or someone I have an issue with then I think the matches will turn out well. I think having a rival will be good for increasing my skills. It would be good if a lot of notable players were to get through (the qualifiers) so a lot of fans could enjoy GSL.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 10 2010 15:52 GMT
#43
nice to see that he really plans his future in sc2. but that he thinks buffs for zerg arent justified either shows that he hasnt that deep of an understanding of the game yet... or that his understanding of the game is 6-12 months ahead of everybody else´s.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Comet702
Profile Joined April 2010
China236 Posts
October 10 2010 15:55 GMT
#44
I have translated this interview into Chinese and posted on wfbrood.com.
I have stated that it was taken from here and I will bring the feedback from China back to here.
Here is the link:http://bbs.wfbrood.com/viewthread.php?tid=20538&extra=
Thanks!
Comet from wfbrood.com
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
October 10 2010 15:56 GMT
#45
Liquid'BoxeR PLZ PLZ PLZ WANT!

I want Boxer to win the GSL SO BAD.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 16:01:00
October 10 2010 15:57 GMT
#46
On October 11 2010 00:01 ooni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 23:55 mechler wrote:
Q: Do you have a goal in mind?
A: First my goal was to qualify for Ro64, (now) I want to receive Code S and have safe placement for SC2 League.

What does Code S mean?

Code S do not have to go through the qualifiers, it means the player is seeded. After 3 Seasons of GSL, top players are seeded and will automatically advance to Ro64 for the next year.
More details in the announcement thread:

- After all three tournaments, the top 32 will become "Code S" players.
- 33rd-96th will become "Code A" players.
- Code S players and Code A players earn the right to participate in the GSL 2011.
- If a Code S player drops out before GSL 2011 starts, the top Code A player will fill the spot etc.

1. GSL (Ran in January, March, April, July and September) - Main League. 32 Code S players tournament and 64 Code A players tournament.
---
I don't know how they pick 32 from 3 tourneys. Perhaps they would take Ro8 + 8 more spots given in additional mini-tourney among Ro16 players, or they will count some kind of point system across the 3 tourneys.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
_vladimir_
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia530 Posts
October 10 2010 15:57 GMT
#47
On October 11 2010 00:27 Crissaegrim wrote:
Boxer to Protoss. Or Zerg. Come on man, switch it up a bit. Terran are already strong, theres no need for you to make it unbeatable with your IMBA strategies =P.



I will only say one thing - Dropships with build in medics...They could as well named them Boxer instead of medivacs


I really hope to see him advancing to at least RO16, i have no doubt at his skill, but it is first tournament he is atending, so who knows whats possible, anyhow, as someone said, i'm sure there will be alot of high five in GOMTV offices after each mach Boxer advanced throu....

I mean, i know it is not big chance, but imagine finals with Boxer in it?And how many people would come to watch it...Doubt there is better way to push SC 2 as esport, correct me if i'm wrong
MC:" 2nd game i all in, he drone he drone, me win."
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 10 2010 16:03 GMT
#48
Thanks for the translation!

It would be so epic if he somehow joined Team Liquid. Not very likely though.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
October 10 2010 16:05 GMT
#49
On October 11 2010 01:03 Holgerius wrote:
Thanks for the translation!

It would be so epic if he somehow joined Team Liquid. Not very likely though.

I thought this was a joke at first but after like a hundred comments by people hoping that Nada and Boxer will join TL, I have to say some people here are quite crazy.
Moktira is da bomb
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
October 10 2010 16:06 GMT
#50
In every interview he gives, Lim talks about making such an effort to please his fans with great games and great entertainment, and feeling bad about not being able to show us good results. You can tell it's genuine.

Damn, I love BoxeR.
TL+ Member
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
October 10 2010 16:13 GMT
#51
On October 10 2010 23:52 konadora wrote:
god has spoken

zerg is OP

+ Show Spoiler +
nice to see boxer qualifying though! hope to see him pull off some crazy stuff in ro64


Yeah im actually wondering if hes suggesting a possible switch to Zerg thanks to nerfs?
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
October 10 2010 16:19 GMT
#52
Liquid'BoxeR....Nazgul, you know what ya gotta do!

on a more serious note, I can't wait to watch BoxeR, he's got such creativity and came up with lots of interesting micro intensive build in BW and i'm really pumped to see what he'll do in SC2
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
October 10 2010 16:19 GMT
#53
On October 11 2010 00:06 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 00:04 GTR wrote:
Boxer is a TLO fan.
Therefore Boxer will join oGs.

One can dream right?

If he's a TLO fan he should of course join Liquid...


Or.... he should join brother team of Liquid, oGs? There would be very little benefit for Boxer to join Team Liquid. Sure it would be amazing if he was sporting the tag, but realistically he needs Korean teammates to bounce ideas/strategies off of. The language barrier is too strong.
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
October 10 2010 16:23 GMT
#54
Thanks for the interview.
It would be amazing if Boxer would also join oGs TL but of course he is taking it cautiously too.
Nothing worth having comes easy.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 16:26:18
October 10 2010 16:25 GMT
#55
Isn't it fucking awesome to have Boxer again? Just the simple fact that he's active and playing.
Fucking love him.

I would not be surprised if he starts a team one day. Maybe after the whole Kespa thing is over and maybe if SC2 starts taking over completely he brings over SK Telecom?
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
October 10 2010 16:31 GMT
#56
i am very happy to see the emporer qualify and i hope he does well and makes it very far in the GSL season 2. boxer fighting!!
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 10 2010 16:32 GMT
#57
Imho a GREAT marketing move Blizzard/GOM could make is to offer Boxer's streams/VODs FOR FREE!

That would attract swarms of fans like ants to spilled honey.

Can't wait to see him playing a serious match :D
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
October 10 2010 16:33 GMT
#58
BOXER FIGHTING Michael Jordan of E-Sport

Boxer won't be switching anything soon, I think Protoss is very marco -oriented, zerg doesn't have alot of options to be aggressive compare to terran. But at the rate of nerfs Blizzard is dishing out, I could be wrong.
SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
October 10 2010 16:38 GMT
#59
I find it funny to hear Boxer say "I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff". I don't have an opinion on it either way, but it's a classic argument and counter argument of "Just because Cool is so good doesn't mean Zerg is balanced" vs "Zerg has the potential to win a tournament; they're fine".
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 10 2010 16:39 GMT
#60
On October 11 2010 01:33 DMXD wrote:
BOXER FIGHTING Michael Jordan of E-Sport

Boxer won't be switching anything soon, I think Protoss is very marco -oriented, zerg doesn't have alot of options to be aggressive compare to terran. But at the rate of nerfs Blizzard is dishing out, I could be wrong.



imho protoss is very micro-oriented with a huge emphasis on surgeon-like precision with spellcasting. the shield mechanic also makes the race inherently rewarding good micro. zerg is the reactive macro race. terran is the outsmart your opponent race, the harassment race. the early aggression race, the race of dictating the game flow. imho sc2 T is perfectly suited for boxers style of play.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
October 10 2010 16:40 GMT
#61
On October 11 2010 01:38 SovSov wrote:
I find it funny to hear Boxer say "I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff". I don't have an opinion on it either way, but it's a classic argument and counter argument of "Just because Cool is so good doesn't mean Zerg is balanced" vs "Zerg has the potential to win a tournament; they're fine".

When you think about it... How weird would it be for Boxer to say "Zerg is UP, Cool is just too good"?

Hence what he said is more reasonable, albeit somewhat funny lol.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
By.Pato
Profile Joined March 2010
Costa Rica52 Posts
October 10 2010 16:45 GMT
#62
I'm so happy for him go boxer!
tacrats
Profile Joined July 2010
476 Posts
October 10 2010 16:47 GMT
#63
On October 11 2010 01:38 SovSov wrote:
I find it funny to hear Boxer say "I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff". I don't have an opinion on it either way, but it's a classic argument and counter argument of "Just because Cool is so good doesn't mean Zerg is balanced" vs "Zerg has the potential to win a tournament; they're fine".


boxer isnt as good as other terrans right now. i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 16:50:29
October 10 2010 16:47 GMT
#64
On October 10 2010 23:42 Hirnfrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
Are you going to be playing in a team in the near future?

TLAF-Liquid`BoxeR
make it happen


Word. It will be frustrating but quite funny if Terran gets super nerfed in the next patch and then all the Terran pros start making posts about switching races. I think thats why MorroW is really playing Zerg a lot, because he knows whats coming and wants to be able to transition nicely and continue winning tournaments.


On October 11 2010 01:47 tacrats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 01:38 SovSov wrote:
I find it funny to hear Boxer say "I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff". I don't have an opinion on it either way, but it's a classic argument and counter argument of "Just because Cool is so good doesn't mean Zerg is balanced" vs "Zerg has the potential to win a tournament; they're fine".


boxer isnt as good as other terrans right now. i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance


I am guessing you base your facts on the ONE game you saw versus IdrA on the forums here? If so you should really research more and watch the Korean stream on this site. They showed him going something like 15-0 in a tournament and his play was something godly to say the very least. Boxer also just started seriously playing SC2 and we will see how much potential he has and how far he has come so far very soon in GSL2
Being weak is a choice.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 10 2010 16:53 GMT
#65
He's sad about Terran nerfs, clearly this guy hasn't watched enough SC2. :p
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
ConsummateK
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
October 10 2010 16:54 GMT
#66
On October 10 2010 23:43 KTF_CloaK wrote:
he's kinda right, zerg was just winning and they buff zerg

not QQ'ing whatsoever but blizzard is more interested in buffing zerg instead of balancing the game


Yeah but n=1 in this situation which isn't very sturdy logic. Still have to look at the big picture. Then again, my Z bias might be showing a bit here :D
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
October 10 2010 16:59 GMT
#67
nice to see Boxer making it.
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AdahnSC
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
October 10 2010 17:07 GMT
#68
can we not turn this into another "imba" thread...?
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 10 2010 18:00 GMT
#69
On October 10 2010 23:42 Hirnfrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
Are you going to be playing in a team in the near future?

TLAF-Liquid`BoxeR
make it happen


Lol I don't know about that but oGs would be a cool team for him. NaDa and Boxer, eh? Or TSL
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
October 10 2010 18:05 GMT
#70
On October 11 2010 03:00 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 23:42 Hirnfrost wrote:
Are you going to be playing in a team in the near future?

TLAF-Liquid`BoxeR
make it happen


Lol I don't know about that but oGs would be a cool team for him. NaDa and Boxer, eh? Or TSL


I guess StarTale would be a likely option for him because he's a good friend of HopeTorture. But Liquid'Boxer would be unreal!!!
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 18:13:46
October 10 2010 18:12 GMT
#71
the last 3 answers were really disappointing to read

Q: Some people say (SC2's) Salvage and Dropships (=medivacs) were made, Boxer in mind...
A: In SC2, it is not only Terran that has favourable (options). Zerg can still move their spinecrawlers... (I'm assuming the rest is not written down by the interviewer)
However, the strategy exists and if it's a possible strategy I will not be hesitant and will use them 'devilishly' to the full extent.

Q: Why stick with Terran?
A: I chose Terran because the fans expected Terran matches from me. However, the game changes a lot with every patch so I might change my race depending on the results of the (future) patches.

Q: Are you satisfied with Terran?
A: I am slightly displeased with the multiple Terran nerfs (including recent ones). Blizzard has tendency to balance games for team games and games with multiple players (I think implying FFA). Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 10 2010 18:18 GMT
#72
BOXER HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
October 10 2010 18:22 GMT
#73
On October 11 2010 03:12 Zelniq wrote:
the last 3 answers were really disappointing to read

Q: Some people say (SC2's) Salvage and Dropships (=medivacs) were made, Boxer in mind...
A: In SC2, it is not only Terran that has favourable (options). Zerg can still move their spinecrawlers... (I'm assuming the rest is not written down by the interviewer)
However, the strategy exists and if it's a possible strategy I will not be hesitant and will use them 'devilishly' to the full extent.

Q: Why stick with Terran?
A: I chose Terran because the fans expected Terran matches from me. However, the game changes a lot with every patch so I might change my race depending on the results of the (future) patches.

Q: Are you satisfied with Terran?
A: I am slightly displeased with the multiple Terran nerfs (including recent ones). Blizzard has tendency to balance games for team games and games with multiple players (I think implying FFA). Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.


your spine crawlers can move
our bunkers can only blow up for full refund T T!
@KawaiiRiceLighT
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
October 10 2010 18:27 GMT
#74
All hail the emperor. Wow I was so scared that he might not qualify.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
October 10 2010 18:41 GMT
#75
good interview! thanks
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 18:51:12
October 10 2010 18:50 GMT
#76
On October 11 2010 03:12 Zelniq wrote:
the last 3 answers were really disappointing to read

Q: Some people say (SC2's) Salvage and Dropships (=medivacs) were made, Boxer in mind...
A: In SC2, it is not only Terran that has favourable (options). Zerg can still move their spinecrawlers... (I'm assuming the rest is not written down by the interviewer)
However, the strategy exists and if it's a possible strategy I will not be hesitant and will use them 'devilishly' to the full extent.

Q: Why stick with Terran?
A: I chose Terran because the fans expected Terran matches from me. However, the game changes a lot with every patch so I might change my race depending on the results of the (future) patches.

Q: Are you satisfied with Terran?
A: I am slightly displeased with the multiple Terran nerfs (including recent ones). Blizzard has tendency to balance games for team games and games with multiple players (I think implying FFA). Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.


Don't get why this is disappointing in any manner. He looks at it the way it is, it's a very new game that changes all the time, by the hands of the players and once every few months by blizzard.

It was Boxer himself who used Terran when they were considered the weakest race in the early days of BW, he is one of the greatest strategist and tactician we had in bw and his mind continued to influence champions even long after his own prime. He experienced all stages of Brood War on the highest level.

Whether he's right or wrong don't really matter to me, but i see where he's coming from. Who's to say that by using macro maps the game wont totally shift in another direction? If we balance it around shittard maps like steppes of war then sure go with a stupid idea like the "depot before rax" requirement. Imagine BW was balanced around Blood Bath lol

edit: wtf have i always been a reaver? When did it change? :D
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
October 10 2010 18:53 GMT
#77
congratulations to boxer! i believe!
yoyo!
Pobearo
Profile Joined August 2009
United States351 Posts
October 10 2010 18:54 GMT
#78
Can't wait for boxer to get into the swing of things. A boxer vs tlo showmatch someday would be sweeeeeeet.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
October 10 2010 19:21 GMT
#79
Boxer is playing. Couldn't ask for much more.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 10 2010 19:24 GMT
#80
Well at least Boxer made it wish July could have too
When I think of something else, something will go here
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
October 10 2010 19:27 GMT
#81
Q: It looked like you prepared a lot for today's matches. Were the strategies prepared?
A: It was the qualifiers so I didn't have specific strategies prepared. I just reacted depending on the situation. The opponent's strategy was a late game strategy so I thought bunker rush would work. Also even I failed, it is possible to salvage the bunker so I did what I wanted.

Yeaaaaa, the Emperor is back! Relentless bunker rushing!

Nice interview though, thanks for this.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 10 2010 19:30 GMT
#82

Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.


I wonder if he felt the same way when 1.08 was coming out.

Somehow I doubt it.

:|
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Terrifyer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States338 Posts
October 10 2010 19:39 GMT
#83
Boxer QQ is so awesome! He almost made me feel bad for terran
eat shit and die
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
October 10 2010 19:54 GMT
#84
I think Boxer puts a lot of emphasis on patches. Remember, he switched from protoss to terran because of a reaver-shuttle nerf in sc1
illumination
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)248 Posts
October 10 2010 20:03 GMT
#85
HAHA boxer's tears awesome that just made my day
Welcome to TL - Where Terran have been teaching the Zerg / Toss pros how to play since Patch 11
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 10 2010 20:28 GMT
#86
YOU TELL EM BOXAHH!! Seriously, so many nerfs to terran THEN buffs to zerg? That's like a double buff right there, I find that considering how dominant cool ran through last season GSL he might have an easier time now. (unless he was just really good with dealing on previous patches and now he will have a hard time adjusting to the new benefits)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
divertiti
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada106 Posts
October 10 2010 20:34 GMT
#87
On October 11 2010 05:03 illumination wrote:
HAHA boxer's tears awesome that just made my day


Really? Idra tears are always more entertaining.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 20:40:44
October 10 2010 20:39 GMT
#88
I'm unsure of how well Boxer will do =\. I really wish he decided to just be a commentator or something. His mechanics were never all that great, he was just so ahead of his time in terms of pure brilliance at the game. Meanwhile SC2 just feels so much more ... limited in that facet.
greenjohn
Profile Joined October 2009
Austria18 Posts
October 10 2010 21:52 GMT
#89
Thanks a lot for the translation. I like BoxeR's way of thinking.
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 21:55:43
October 10 2010 21:55 GMT
#90
I don't really think that's QQing. Seems more like he is wondering why they are getting nerfed with Zerg doing pretty well recently ( better against Terran in Diamond, GSL winner, ect ). He brings up a good point.

I think it's for 2v2...
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Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 22:21:08
October 10 2010 22:10 GMT
#91
Boxer has a blog?

EDIT: Ah, I see the thread now.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
October 10 2010 22:18 GMT
#92
(I'm assuming the rest is not written down by the interviewer)



unintentionally hilarious
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Kantutan
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1319 Posts
October 10 2010 22:31 GMT
#93
Lets hope NaDa is enough incentive for him to join oGs so the team house is even more stacked
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 10 2010 22:35 GMT
#94
On October 11 2010 05:34 divertiti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 05:03 illumination wrote:
HAHA boxer's tears awesome that just made my day


Really? Idra tears are always more entertaining.


I think TossGirl tears win the competition.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
October 10 2010 22:38 GMT
#95
People show stop saying boxer QQ. show some respect. he is the emperor. good interview happy he'll at least do one gsl and hopefully afterward he'll try either coaching or casting. if he became a game commentator i'd definitley take time to learn english XD
Cake or Death?
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 22:41:27
October 10 2010 22:41 GMT
#96
On October 11 2010 03:12 Zelniq wrote:
the last 3 answers were really disappointing to read

Q: Some people say (SC2's) Salvage and Dropships (=medivacs) were made, Boxer in mind...
A: In SC2, it is not only Terran that has favourable (options). Zerg can still move their spinecrawlers... (I'm assuming the rest is not written down by the interviewer)
However, the strategy exists and if it's a possible strategy I will not be hesitant and will use them 'devilishly' to the full extent.

Q: Why stick with Terran?
A: I chose Terran because the fans expected Terran matches from me. However, the game changes a lot with every patch so I might change my race depending on the results of the (future) patches.

Q: Are you satisfied with Terran?
A: I am slightly displeased with the multiple Terran nerfs (including recent ones). Blizzard has tendency to balance games for team games and games with multiple players (I think implying FFA). Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.


Because only Zerg players are allowed to claim imbalance I guess?
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 10 2010 22:42 GMT
#97
WHOOO go boxer! good to see him playing matches again
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
roborious
Profile Joined September 2010
15 Posts
October 10 2010 22:43 GMT
#98
On October 11 2010 01:47 tacrats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 01:38 SovSov wrote:
I find it funny to hear Boxer say "I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff". I don't have an opinion on it either way, but it's a classic argument and counter argument of "Just because Cool is so good doesn't mean Zerg is balanced" vs "Zerg has the potential to win a tournament; they're fine".


boxer isnt as good as other terrans right now. i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance




What does this say about the legions of bronzers and even1k-1.5k diamond players (including most of the people on this forums). If boxer chose zerg and made a statement saying he was glad zerg was getting a buff, there would be no one saying "boxer isnt as good as other zergs right now. i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance"
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
October 10 2010 22:47 GMT
#99
the God of Starcraft has returned to us

let us pray for a bountiful harvest of games to enjoy
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 22:50:11
October 10 2010 22:49 GMT
#100
Q: Some people say (SC2's) Salvage and Dropships (=medivacs) were made, Boxer in mind...
A:[...]I will not be hesitant and will use them 'devilishly' to the full extent.

Excellent, excellent...
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
October 10 2010 22:53 GMT
#101
I'm glad to see more big names in this GSL :D pretty interesting what he said about the balancing.
lukash
Profile Joined September 2010
Slovakia6 Posts
October 10 2010 23:01 GMT
#102
On October 11 2010 00:06 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.


I think pro shouldn't think this way.


I totally agree... This kind of thinking doesnt fit wit pro.

He said, he will change race, deppending on patch... Currently, terran is for him most advantageous.
Long live and prosper!
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
October 10 2010 23:02 GMT
#103
Boxer as Protoss? I would love it. Warp prisms are exciting when used well.
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
October 10 2010 23:50 GMT
#104
On October 11 2010 07:43 roborious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 01:47 tacrats wrote:
On October 11 2010 01:38 SovSov wrote:
I find it funny to hear Boxer say "I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff". I don't have an opinion on it either way, but it's a classic argument and counter argument of "Just because Cool is so good doesn't mean Zerg is balanced" vs "Zerg has the potential to win a tournament; they're fine".


boxer isnt as good as other terrans right now. i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance




What does this say about the legions of bronzers and even1k-1.5k diamond players (including most of the people on this forums). If boxer chose zerg and made a statement saying he was glad zerg was getting a buff, there would be no one saying "boxer isnt as good as other zergs right now. i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance"


not to mention boxer has played well over 1k games when adding up his two accounts and is in the top 100 in the world right now on one of those accounts and in the korean top 200 with both :/ or at least was on that last bit.
Cake or Death?
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 10 2010 23:51 GMT
#105
I'm seeing a lot of blasphemers in this here thread. Harumph.
ChewbroCColi
Profile Joined July 2009
Denmark108 Posts
October 10 2010 23:56 GMT
#106
On October 10 2010 23:42 Hirnfrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
Are you going to be playing in a team in the near future?

TLAF-Liquid`BoxeR
make it happen


Would be so epic lol :D:D:D
Trion
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada291 Posts
October 11 2010 00:44 GMT
#107
On October 11 2010 08:51 Jyvblamo wrote:
I'm seeing a lot of blasphemers in this here thread. Harumph.


Such as?...
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
October 11 2010 01:19 GMT
#108
On October 11 2010 09:44 Trion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 08:51 Jyvblamo wrote:
I'm seeing a lot of blasphemers in this here thread. Harumph.


Such as?...

Such as a guy above who said "i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance" - while he's probably one of the top 100 players who understand SC2 best right now. Not to mention that he was one of the best, if not the best strategy innovator / thinker / inspirer in competitive gaming that are playing SC2.

Geez, I understand there are a lot of new comers on TL nowadays who are just eager to post their opinions about everything but can we have sign or something that says before you say something about certain topics/players, you must learn BW history a little first.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 11 2010 01:37 GMT
#109
On October 11 2010 10:19 mrdx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 09:44 Trion wrote:
On October 11 2010 08:51 Jyvblamo wrote:
I'm seeing a lot of blasphemers in this here thread. Harumph.


Such as?...

Such as a guy above who said "i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance" - while he's probably one of the top 100 players who understand SC2 best right now. Not to mention that he was one of the best, if not the best strategy innovator / thinker / inspirer in competitive gaming that are playing SC2.

Geez, I understand there are a lot of new comers on TL nowadays who are just eager to post their opinions about everything but can we have sign or something that says before you say something about certain topics/players, you must learn BW history a little first.



This and who exactly has been playing for a really long time? The first hands on for public was last years blizzcon and beta much later, not like anyone has a long history of experience with sc2.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 11 2010 05:13 GMT
#110
is he still part of skt1?

i thought kespa wasnt allowing their players to participate in gsl....
great news anyways boxer was finished in bw... his last game vs yellow was clear indicator haha

boxer fighting!
Jaedong.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 11 2010 05:35 GMT
#111
"Blizzard has tendency to balance games for team games and games with multiple players (I think implying FFA)."

Gotta disagree with you there, Boxer.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
October 11 2010 05:49 GMT
#112
On October 11 2010 01:47 tacrats wrote:
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On October 11 2010 01:38 SovSov wrote:
I find it funny to hear Boxer say "I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff". I don't have an opinion on it either way, but it's a classic argument and counter argument of "Just because Cool is so good doesn't mean Zerg is balanced" vs "Zerg has the potential to win a tournament; they're fine".


boxer isnt as good as other terrans right now. i dont think he understands sc2 enough to be able to identify imbalance

I don't know about you, but I think a player who has rts experience and played 700+ games + custom games is able to identify imbalance. Or maybe you suggest that one has to play 1000+ games to understand the balance?
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
October 11 2010 05:56 GMT
#113
On October 10 2010 23:58 Pekkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 23:43 KTF_CloaK wrote:
he's kinda right, zerg was just winning and they buff zerg

not QQ'ing whatsoever but blizzard is more interested in buffing zerg instead of balancing the game


Prolly why theres 17 terrans and 5 zerg qualified so far. Could all be probability, or it could be imbalances. Blizzard and most progamers seem to think zerg still needs some buffs, and we will see after that comes out if they where right or wrong.

Because there're 17000 T players and 5000 Z players participated? It'd be imba if there're 12 T and 12 Z qualify instead of 17 and 5.
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
October 11 2010 06:00 GMT
#114
Why do so many people act as if boxer's words are the law of the land? He isn't nessecarily right and the general consensus is that zerg is (slightly) underpowered.
nice.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
October 11 2010 06:04 GMT
#115
I would love to see Boxer joining TeamLiquid/OGS, wouldnt that be AWESOME, TLO, NaDa, Boxer...wow TLAF-Liquid`BoxeR plz?
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
October 11 2010 06:09 GMT
#116
Why do so many people act as if boxer's words are the law of the land? He isn't nessecarily right and the general consensus is that zerg is (slightly) underpowered.
nice.
silentreality
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)222 Posts
October 11 2010 06:27 GMT
#117
Q : 테란에 만족하는지?
A : 매번 테란을 하향을 하고 있어서 약간 불만이 있다. 블리자드에서 사용자 수나 팀플레이에 맞춰서 패치하는 경향이 있다. 또 저그가 우승했는데 저그 상향은 약간 이해가 안가는 부분이다.

A: I am slightly displeased with the multiple Terran nerfs (including recent ones). Blizzard has tendency to balance games for team games and games with multiple players (I think implying FFA). Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.

Thanks for the translations, I used to do translations part time 3-4 years ago till work pretty much consumed my soul. Anywho, I'd like to make a slight correction to the bolded text above, it should read, IMO, as follows:

"Blizzard has a tendency to balance the game looking at the number of players for each race (사용자 수) or around team matches (팀플레이)."

Anyway let's give thanks to translations when they're done, it's a thankless job
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 11 2010 06:33 GMT
#118
The idea of TLO and Boxer practicing together at the OGs house is the stuff dreams are made of.
whatsgrackalackin420
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 11 2010 06:37 GMT
#119
On October 11 2010 15:27 silentreality wrote:
"Blizzard has a tendency to balance the game looking at the number of players for each race (사용자 수) or around team matches (팀플레이)."


This makes a lot more sense. Not least of all because it's true.
whatsgrackalackin420
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
October 11 2010 06:47 GMT
#120
On October 11 2010 15:27 silentreality wrote:
Q : 테란에 만족하는지?
A : 매번 테란을 하향을 하고 있어서 약간 불만이 있다. 블리자드에서 사용자 수나 팀플레이에 맞춰서 패치하는 경향이 있다. 또 저그가 우승했는데 저그 상향은 약간 이해가 안가는 부분이다.

A: I am slightly displeased with the multiple Terran nerfs (including recent ones). Blizzard has tendency to balance games for team games and games with multiple players (I think implying FFA). Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.

Thanks for the translations, I used to do translations part time 3-4 years ago till work pretty much consumed my soul. Anywho, I'd like to make a slight correction to the bolded text above, it should read, IMO, as follows:

"Blizzard has a tendency to balance the game looking at the number of players for each race (사용자 수) or around team matches (팀플레이)."

Anyway let's give thanks to translations when they're done, it's a thankless job

ha thx, think I overlooked that, if you see the time, it was around 3 am Aus when I translated it. I was hazy by the end of the interview. EDITed, although it just says number of players (for each race) would be the implied part.
Hi!
silentreality
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)222 Posts
October 11 2010 06:58 GMT
#121
Completely understand, I've done translations at 2-3 in the morning after work

Hopefully with my renewed interest in SC2 I can contribute more to the community as well. (although, most likely, it'll end up being 작심삼일).
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
October 11 2010 07:41 GMT
#122
On October 11 2010 08:01 lukash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 00:06 Alpina wrote:
Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff.


I think pro shouldn't think this way.


I totally agree... This kind of thinking doesnt fit wit pro.

He said, he will change race, deppending on patch... Currently, terran is for him most advantageous.


I totally can understand Boxer there. If a race is so advantageous in my opinion, and i play tournaments with 85k $ on the line, i would use all advantages to the very end. This is what it means being a professional, you have to make a living with it.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
October 11 2010 08:07 GMT
#123
I was not happy with the balance comments, I'd have been a little happier if that was not mentioned in this context. I like the interview though, I like to see how much he cares for his fans and his overall mindset. I will also admit this, Code S just sounds awesome. Like, I didn't even know what it was at the time, but I wanted it!
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 11 2010 08:10 GMT
#124
"The opponent's strategy was a late game strategy so I thought bunker rush would work"

Oh Boxer.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Lumin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States217 Posts
October 11 2010 08:13 GMT
#125
People need to quit bitchin' about balance comments and just realize the God of SC has come to SC2!
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
October 11 2010 08:15 GMT
#126
Can't wait to see him in the GSL
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
October 11 2010 08:21 GMT
#127
On October 10 2010 23:52 konadora wrote:
god has spoken

zerg is OP


Laughed on this.
Also, gogo boxer!
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 08:25:58
October 11 2010 08:25 GMT
#128
Haha, so much gold in this thread.
Boxer bunkerrushing in his first official game. Oh, Boxer.

And of course:
On October 10 2010 23:52 konadora wrote:
god has spoken

zerg is OP
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
October 11 2010 10:03 GMT
#129
Lol boxer bunker rushes his first official opponent. Also, I don't understand his sentiments towards the zerg buff. yes, I know that he is trying to ensure his own future in the game, but saying that zerg doesn't need balancing is just wrong.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
October 11 2010 10:12 GMT
#130
Boxer vs Gaybar
There's no S in KT. :P
itsMAHVELbaybee
Profile Joined October 2008
292 Posts
October 12 2010 14:24 GMT
#131
Boxer used to play Terran in the beginning of SC1, which was (at the time) considered inferior to the other races. Then players like Boxer made Terrans a strong race by discovering strategies and pivotal build orders. So I guess from his mindset, Zerg should quit complaining because they do have the tools to win and can be a made a strong race.

I can understand that from his perspective, considering theres a lot of that "it can't be done" attitude from a lot of lower level players.
I am boss. -Minami-ke
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
October 12 2010 17:04 GMT
#132
I love the idea that Boxer effectively trolled with some of the answers and 100's of lemmings just go walking over the cliff. He is a pro level Terran player, changing the game balance away from Terran makes it harder. Why would any player whose focus is ultimately on winning want the game to be harder? For the ickle fans? No - fuck that - fans love winners, fancy shit on top of winning comes after
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 12 2010 17:10 GMT
#133
On October 10 2010 23:54 shannn wrote:
Protoss Emperor Boxer I believe.

edit:
Anyone knows who he is playing in ro64 ? an onwards? Pm me or reply here :p

From the brackets I'm seeing... He's potentially playing San in 32, I'm gonna go with Cezanne in ro16, then theres MVP and HyperDub potentially for 8 and then the top of the bracket with guys like IrOn, IdrA, Loner, Ace for the semis.

I'm more interested in the fact that TLO gets Check in 64, another Z in 32, then Cool in 16 (assuming he wins til then). lol... at least he only has to practice vs one race.

Could be wrong but these brackets were correct last time.
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