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fearus
China2164 Posts
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
I hope he rocks SC2. | ||
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VPC
United States135 Posts
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VonLego
United States519 Posts
Fun fact about elky though -- Thanks to his SC2 apm he held (holds?) the world record for most single table poker tournaments played at the same time while still showing profit. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
For the translation : "Viable strategies are also very diverse with hard counters available. (T/N Not sure about the last sentence.)" You got the meaning of it : Viable strategies are very diverse with strong hard-counters (or just counters). "There is also a few other things I really like about Starcraft, there is room for progress in every level of play. (T/N Not sure about this last sentence)." That's it just a singular : There is one thing I really like... "Well, it's my worst race and I don't really know it very well." No it's the opposite : "It's my best race so I'm not sure" (maybe he means his best match up is against terran) "I'm very happy that video games are becoming more and more recognized because it's true that it has only been about ten years when I was a pro gamer, it was difficult to be recognized in France or Europe. " ... beacuse it's true that when I was a progamer ten years ago ... You forgot to translate that even if it is not important : "Juste pour le fun, ça pourrait être sympa oui" Yes, just for fun, that would be cool Good work on the translation though I know French is very hard for foreigners. | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
And he's making a lot more money from poker than he ever will from SC2, so I doubt he'll be anything more than a really good casual player. | ||
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
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Pjonkan
Sweden9 Posts
 Think he was number 1 in his diamond division actually, dont remember exactly, and that division might have been pretty new. I probably have the replay autosaved if some elky fans really wants to see how hes doing. Dont remember the game at all tho, think he was playing random  | ||
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Borked
221 Posts
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loving it
Canada271 Posts
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Chesner
Iceland817 Posts
On October 10 2010 13:43 loving it wrote: Can someone explain why alot of former progamers turn to poker? Because its more realistically profitable. | ||
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Borked
221 Posts
On October 10 2010 13:43 loving it wrote: Can someone explain why alot of former progamers turn to poker? cause you forfeit your education (for most progamers) so you don't have any special field. you either work your life from rock bottom or you go in a risky business like gambling. and as a professional RTS player, you have counters, early-mid-late games, cheese, hidden tech, "mindgames", etc. strategies those can be applied to poker. | ||
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loving it
Canada271 Posts
On October 10 2010 13:50 Borked wrote: cause you forfeit your education (for most progamers) so you don't have any special field. you either work your life from rock bottom or you go in a risky business like gambling. and as a professional RTS player, you have counters, early-mid-late games, cheese, hidden tech etc. strategies those can be applied to poker. What exactly do you mean when RTS aspects can be applied with poker? | ||
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Dantelew
Canada63 Posts
On October 10 2010 13:43 loving it wrote: Can someone explain why alot of former progamers turn to poker? Surprisingly enough, a lot of skills developed in these games can directly translate into poker. However being good at SC2 does not make you necessarily good at poker (nor does it the other way around). But a lot of the same concepts are thrown around in both at the highlevels. And to the person who said Phil Ivey has won double what ElkY has, Phil Ivey has double the tournament earnings, yes.. But Phil Ivey is also the best cash game player alive, and it is rumoured that the 12 million hes made in tournaments is nothing compaired to his cash game play. Online, hes up around 20 million dollars.. and thats just online poker.. | ||
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ptell
United States103 Posts
On October 10 2010 13:14 rezoacken wrote: What is funny is Im French and I sometime need to check out what he says under the video because he speaks so badly (too fast, some low tones). For the translation : You got the meaning of it : Viable strategies are very diverse with strong hard-counters (or just counters). That's it just a singular : There is one thing I really like... No it's the opposite : "It's my best race so I'm not sure" (maybe he means his best match up is against terran) ... beacuse it's true that when I was a progamer ten years ago ... You forgot to translate that even if it is not important : "Juste pour le fun, ça pourrait être sympa oui" Yes, just for fun, that would be cool Good work on the translation though I know French is very hard for foreigners. | ||
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TheHuHu
15 Posts
On October 10 2010 10:59 inza wrote: I'm probably the only persson in here who first got to know about him as a poker player and then discovered that he used to be a kickass SC player. BTW the person with the most winings in poker (Phil Ivey) has won about the double! Sick! Umm, no. Phil Ivey has made probably 20x than Elky in all the card games he's played. He made like $8M just playing online alone last year (Ivey). | ||
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Borked
221 Posts
On October 10 2010 13:53 loving it wrote: What exactly do you mean when RTS aspects can be applied with poker? if you look closely poker is a strategy game too, to a degree. But you have to be also lucky about your hand in addition to that. But anyway, this is not enough, as you can see not all old-bw-pros can do like elky, he is gifted as he is... | ||
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Dantelew
Canada63 Posts
On October 10 2010 13:53 loving it wrote: What exactly do you mean when RTS aspects can be applied with poker? Off the top of my head, without going too indepth about it, concentration for long periods of time, the ability to soak up as much random information going on at once as you can, ability to remain calm under pressure. That is a few of the basics, at a high level of play, using information to whittle down certain scenarios which allow you to have an edge. Take scouting in the very early game, you see certain things going on, but you only really have a barebones idea of what his long term plan is for the match. But based off his opening, you can narrow down certain possibilities from what you see, as the match goes on, you gain more and more information about what hes intending to do, and therefore you can continuously absorb this information to get a clear picture. A hand in poker can play out similarly, you start preflop, based on his action to Fold, Call, or Raise, you have a bare-bones idea of what his hand strength is (and the more you play with said person, the more you can narrow down what two cards he is holding (although can never be 100% certain). As the Flop, Turn and River action proceed, based on how hes playing, you can further deduce what "Range" of hands he could possibly have, and using your logic, you can start to figure out what makes "sense" based on how he has played. Ive played poker for many years now, with success (albeit peanuts compaired to elky), and my purchase of starcraft literally had nothing to do with ElkY or any others, however, once I started to watch Day9 and read some theory, it was wierd how many of the concepts he was explaining were concepts I had learned and studied while playing cards. | ||
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