CheckPrime, Tester, Cool on the upcoming 1.2 - Page 10

MrCon

France29748 Posts

October 09 2010 17:10 GMT

#181

On October 10 2010 01:51 fdsdfg wrote:

This.

Rax before depot was always a cheese - it was never required for anti-cheese. There's a reason 10 depot 12 rax 13 gas is the standard build. It wouldn't be standard if it couldn't defend against cheesy openings.

And what's the point ?
Even if it was always a cheese (that is not true, but let's pretend), you are debatting a point that, even if true, wouldn't be justifying the change anyway.

Noxie

United States2227 Posts

October 09 2010 17:18 GMT

#182

They all had pretty good answers.. its so nice to not hear (that F'ing retarded and imba and will break the game) .. I am glad when it comes to interviews they keep there calm about changes they dislike.

In the end were not sure what blizzard is going to do.. and how it will effect the game.

Observious

United States10 Posts

October 09 2010 17:25 GMT

#183

My only concern is without the possibility of rax first, reapers not used until post-factory, roach range buff, the already increased bunker build time means Zerg will be able to get away with FE's a lot easier and drone harder until hellions pop or have the potential to pop, and then a few roaches stave it off. Early banshee play is dealable with 3 queens (1 on main 1 on expo 1 for creep) and you can wall with said queen/roaches to prevent runbys so zerg will be relatively safe until say the timing for a blue-flame hellion drop. This is why I'm concerned on a TvZ level because it lets Z get away with so much more, and the early-mid game is where Terran is strongest. Give that to Zerg, well, and there goes the current 50% or slightly less win ratio for Terrans vs Zerg

TL/DR: You never want to let the zerg expo and drone freely early on, and this looks to let them.

teamsolid

Canada3668 Posts

October 09 2010 17:26 GMT

#184

On October 09 2010 23:28 klauz619 wrote:
Who's to say he isn't just another rager that will become an ignored has-been like idra?

The guy's biased as hell you can't possibly trust a guy who claims he only wins 10% of the time vs terran and win the championship beating 5 terrans in a row.

The idiocy in this post rivals the BNet general forums...

Idra is a has-been? When Cool's Terran practice partners are MakaPrime and Clide, you really think he'd be lying? The only one here who is biased is you.

eloist

United States1017 Posts

October 09 2010 17:32 GMT

#185

On October 10 2010 01:51 fdsdfg wrote:
Rax before depot was always a cheese - it was never required for anti-cheese. There's a reason 10 depot 12 rax 13 gas is the standard build. It wouldn't be standard if it couldn't defend against cheesy openings.

It's not true, Rax first allows to cut SCVs for a quick orbital command which one might want to do for a number of reasons. One being to get a marine out earlier to defend against 6 pool, overlord scouting. The other might be a fast expand with suppoly calldown on the second 50 energy.

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