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Is it a single T opponent in 10 matches, so I play the same guy 10 times? or do I play 10 different T's?
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Which server is this on? I would love to take you up on this offer(regardless of the legitimacy, if nothing else it would probably be fun  ) but I'm on EU.
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On September 28 2010 02:38 kOre wrote:
Is it a single T opponent in 10 matches, so I play the same guy 10 times? or do I play 10 different T's?
Single Opponent.
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On September 28 2010 02:38 Alsn wrote:Which server is this on? I would love to take you up on this offer(regardless of the legitimacy, if nothing else it would probably be fun ) but I'm on EU.
Server is NA.
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will the matches be streamed? 1800 Z here in us server...
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I would definately watch if it will be streamed ^^
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On September 28 2010 02:47 Piski wrote:
I would definately watch if it will be streamed ^^
yes this would be nice!
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Too bad this isnt on EU 
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No restriction on Terran skill? Seems too easy...
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On September 28 2010 02:52 NATO wrote:
No restriction on Terran skill? Seems too easy...
I don't understand the question. The terran opponent is provided.
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I think they must have some terran lined up to play that's pro..
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err nm. this should be fun.
EDIT: Imma 1300 + zerg if you can't find anyone. but i'm sure you will...just throwing it out there
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On September 28 2010 02:54 asianinvasian wrote:
err nm. this should be fun. Read the OP more closely, you're not supposed to play any random terran, the OP already has designated terran opponents for whoever wants to accept the challenge.
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On September 28 2010 02:50 DarKFoRcE wrote:Too bad this isnt on EU
buy NA sc2 for 50-60€ => win 200$ !
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he provide the terran.. i dont think he would throw 200$ away like that... Terran will easily be 1600+
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Only one map removal? Yikes.
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Cella should accept this, he could buy like 50 hamburgeruuu 
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lol this challenge is funny, who is the terran player?
I haven't been laddering lately, so my rating is like 1100 but I've got a shit load of bonus pool accrued and can probably get to 1500 np.
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I'm interested. owmygroin.165
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titan.107
1700
I want my $200 please.
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Upload this to youtube IMO
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On September 28 2010 02:56 Ohdamn wrote:buy NA sc2 for 50-60€ => win 200$ !
The NA boxes also come with 2 trial account keys each. Shouldn't be too hard to get a hold of one I also have a few lying around myself.
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On September 28 2010 02:50 DarKFoRcE wrote:Too bad this isnt on EU
If you're considering trying, then I'm sure the OP is very glad it's on the US server.
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I really like this.
I hope we can see some high level games later on casted by someone or just the replays, that would make this even more epic.
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On September 28 2010 02:59 Titan107 wrote:
titan.107
1700
I want my $200 please.
nE Fighting!
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On September 28 2010 02:53 thecasual wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 02:52 NATO wrote:
No restriction on Terran skill? Seems too easy... I don't understand the question. The terran opponent is provided.
Ok, misread. I thought it said availability of 'a' terran opponent, not THE. My bad.
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Interesting. I would imagine that the reason behind this challenge is to prove some point regarding the current TvZ debate, but I can't see how this would really prove anything beside that you have yourself one hellofa good Terran player lined up for us.
Anyways, I hope this will be streamed somewhere! Fun stuff!
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Id really love to know who the terran player was.
I was just considering chipping in another 100$ or even setting up the same thing on europe, if a really good terran is available.
However i figured that this challenge is nice to have but somewhat obsolete because the same result is already given by ANY major tournament where the pricepool is >50$.
Still cudos to OP and i hope you got a good terran there
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this should be streamed imo :/
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Looky.483
1500+
zvt my best mu
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yeah, what is stopping idra (or any other top zerg) from just rolling over them?
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I'll stream this if you get any serious offers. Robby.979
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Will there be any posting of replays, or better yet... commentating?
Should be an interesting challenge.
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On September 28 2010 03:14 blabber wrote:
yeah, what is stopping idra (or any other top zerg) from just rolling over them?
Nothing.
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Haha id like to see who this terran opponent is.
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Wow, what a great community.
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Not one replay yet? is this even for real?
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I have a feeling these Terran guys have found some super OP strategy or something lol. Just my imagination of course, but it does sound suspicious with how plain the OP is. Beat these guys 6/10 times, win $200!
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On September 28 2010 03:22 Unosnow wrote:
Not one replay yet? is this even for real?
Thread started 30min ago what did you expect?
Cool challenge.
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200$ isn't that much money for some people, you know.
Maybe he just thinks this is something fun to do and perhaps it'll create some great games to watch?
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Well easy money, just whisper terran opponent that you split money 50/50 that you let zerg win. Little mistakes here and there.
In another words this threads well bit pointless.
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Just need 100 more points and I can accept this challenge!
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On September 28 2010 03:26 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Well easy money, just whisper terran opponent that you split money 50/50 that you let zerg win. Little mistakes here and there.
In another words this threads well bit pointless.
He already has a terran picked out I would assume. Odds are its probably a friend of his so I doubt you can bribe him.
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On September 28 2010 03:25 Ganches wrote:
200$ isn't that much money for some people, you know.
Maybe he just thinks this is something fun to do and perhaps it'll create some great games to watch?
Yet still a lot of "big names" show up for those weekly $50 tournies that take hours to complete
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On September 28 2010 03:25 Ganches wrote:
200$ isn't that much money for some people, you know.
Maybe he just thinks this is something fun to do and perhaps it'll create some great games to watch?
$200 for 10 matches (maybe even as few as 6) seems like a decent wage to me
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On September 28 2010 03:29 BladeRunner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 03:25 Ganches wrote:
200$ isn't that much money for some people, you know.
Maybe he just thinks this is something fun to do and perhaps it'll create some great games to watch? Yet still a lot of "big names" show up for those weekly $50 tournies that take hours to complete
Yes, and?
You realize it's a fun thing for them to do as well, right? I've watched those and some of them do the most ridiculous strats just for fun because it doesn't mean much.
200$ doesn't mean much to this guy apparently.
I really don't see how some of you have a hard time believing he's throwing out 200$... It's really not that much, people.
Edit: I'm not saying this is real or fake, just so we're clear. I'm just trying to say it's not a big deal throwing out 200$ because to some people it's really nothing at all.
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wow this thread got derailed fast lolz.
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On September 28 2010 03:46 TT1 wrote:
TTOne.303
1600 zerg
LIES!
lol
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On September 28 2010 03:46 TT1 wrote:
TTOne.303
1600 zerg
hahahah lets see how many wins you have with zerg! Canada represents in this thread
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On September 28 2010 03:17 thecasual wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 03:14 blabber wrote:
yeah, what is stopping idra (or any other top zerg) from just rolling over them? Nothing.
I know you're the OP, but I'm thinking you're trying to prove that T>Z once and for all. Is that the point? Because I'm not sure that's needed. We get plenty of talk on the subject already. I guess the twist here is that you're putting some money where your mouth is, but still...
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I want to see this streamed.
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On September 28 2010 02:50 DarKFoRcE wrote:Too bad this isnt on EU
Ah, my new favorite zerg is looking for a chance. After seeing some replays from the BigT brawl I am hoping there is a way to make that work
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On September 28 2010 03:52 MangoTango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 03:17 thecasual wrote:On September 28 2010 03:14 blabber wrote:
yeah, what is stopping idra (or any other top zerg) from just rolling over them? Nothing. I know you're the OP, but I'm thinking you're trying to prove that T>Z once and for all. Is that the point? Because I'm not sure that's needed. We get plenty of talk on the subject already. I guess the twist here is that you're putting some money where your mouth is, but still...
It's quite obviously not the point. Having some terran beat (probably) lower skilled zergs doesn't prove anything.
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Cool any streams? Will replays or vods be released?
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If you get a lot of people that Terran guy will have to play hundreds of games lmao
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i added you guys but both arnt online when do we get to play this?
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On September 28 2010 03:52 MangoTango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 03:17 thecasual wrote:On September 28 2010 03:14 blabber wrote:
yeah, what is stopping idra (or any other top zerg) from just rolling over them? Nothing. I know you're the OP, but I'm thinking you're trying to prove that T>Z once and for all. Is that the point? Because I'm not sure that's needed. We get plenty of talk on the subject already. I guess the twist here is that you're putting some money where your mouth is, but still...
You're right, we have plenty on the subject, so don't bring it into this thread? Leave your assumptions at the door.
Anyway, it seems to me that for a high level terran that needs some TvZ practice, this could be a pretty good bargain, haha, even if he wins only a couple of the "race to 6" matches.
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On September 28 2010 03:56 Skeyser wrote:
If you get a lot of people that Terran guy will have to play hundreds of games lmao
Bingo...
And we, the observers, (we are going to get to observe right?!) profit as well.
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Seeing the very "pick-up" nature of this challenge, I wouldn't hold your breath on a stream. Uploading matches to youtube, however, would be super awesome.
Too bad I'm not rated high enough to compete. GL Zerg challengers! Represent!
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On September 28 2010 03:56 Ryze wrote:
i added you guys but both arnt online when do we get to play this?
Hi Ryze, both of us are currently at work and will be online later tonight.
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The Terran is Nada.
Right?
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On September 28 2010 04:00 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
The Terran is Nada.
Right?
I think Boxer need some TvZ practice, because he is owning hard, but sure he thinks he can own even more poor of us zergies
Great idea and i hope that will be a stream or something like the gisado KOTH or something like that!
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That's hilarious. I hope the Terran turtles hard every game or something and this turns into a huge QQ of ZOMG TURTLING TERRAN IS OP.
GL to all the Zergs though, I'll be following this for sure. Cool contest <3.
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This mysterious terran should take on the same role as the Stig from Top Gear.
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Im really curious now, and I hope that I get see at least 1 game where Zerg beats a T with all the builds im having trouble with :p.
These matches are profit. Please post replays OP
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On September 28 2010 02:57 Punkstar wrote:Cella should accept this, he could buy like 50 hamburgeruuu
I'd either want to see Cella, December or Prince Xizor take up the challenge: all three have amazing ZvT. :D
On September 28 2010 04:00 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
The Terran is Nada.
Right?
That, would, be, awesome!! :D
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On September 28 2010 03:48 gozima wrote:LIES! lol
o_o ive been laddering with z lately
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On September 28 2010 04:06 ofog wrote:
This mysterious terran should take on the same role as the Stig from Top Gear.
offtopic; its a shame he was revealed, doesnt change anything in my eyes really tho
ontopic; i cant wait for that to be true !
maybe he made a bet with his mates that would cover his lost $200 also
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A ton of zerg answered! Who will go first and will there be a stream? Im sure there are alot of people wanting some attention to their stream.
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I think he has a bet with his Terran friend that no zerg can beat him.
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On September 28 2010 04:08 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 03:48 gozima wrote:On September 28 2010 03:46 TT1 wrote:
TTOne.303
1600 zerg LIES! lol o_o ive been laddering with z lately
o_o please accept TT1 now. please please please.
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this is a glorious challenge.
I just hope stream/VoD/Replays/Commentating are available. I'd hate for this challenge to go unnoticed.
I demand VOD/Replays after all the challengers!
Props OP! Great idea!
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On September 28 2010 04:11 RexFTW wrote:
I think he has a bet with his Terran friend that no zerg can beat him.
Hahahaha. Probably. I still want to watch this though.
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Ill download the US client this night, i hope the challenge is still up tomorrow.
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The two guys in the OP are Zergs around 1000 and 1400. I guess their point is to say that Terran is OP and zerg can't win with this challenge. They're probably gonna get some pro T to play vs 1500 zergs and have some really abusive strats prepared for each map.
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wish i played zerg X_X
could use 200 bucks
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Should use this money for a Morrow vs Idra reverse race match. Idra would 5-0 easily, and it proves the point even moreso.
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On September 28 2010 04:17 mOnion wrote:
wish i played zerg and was any good X_X
could use 200 bucks
fixed 
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I am hypnotized by this thread! F5-F5-F5
OP, replays or VODs are clearly desired, but if you can't/won't release them please post the player names and scores after its all said and done.
Cmon swarm!
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On September 28 2010 04:22 PokePill wrote:
Should use this money for a Morrow vs Idra reverse race match. Idra would 5-0 easily, and it proves the point even moreso.
Actually Morrow would 5-0 easily.
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Interested to see if this is legit. Would love to see a stream/vods after its done just for fun.
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kOre has this in the bag man lol. He's the best Z in NA imo.
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hoping for a streaming on it :D
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On September 28 2010 04:25 Cliff Curtis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:22 PokePill wrote:
Should use this money for a Morrow vs Idra reverse race match. Idra would 5-0 easily, and it proves the point even moreso. Actually Morrow would 5-0 easily.
You fanboys are amusing. It wouldn't be a sweep either way.
Really intrigued by this challenge. Hopefully we get a stream Go TT1 :D
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On September 28 2010 04:25 Cliff Curtis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:22 PokePill wrote:
Should use this money for a Morrow vs Idra reverse race match. Idra would 5-0 easily, and it proves the point even moreso. Actually Morrow would 5-0 easily.
you must be joking
also its 6-0 ...
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This is intriguing.
Do we know yet who's the Terran?
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Almost every terran on the US server is a joke, you can add PLZLEAVEDUCK.264. If i don't go 10-0 You can give some1 else the money.
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On September 28 2010 04:25 Cliff Curtis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:22 PokePill wrote:
Should use this money for a Morrow vs Idra reverse race match. Idra would 5-0 easily, and it proves the point even moreso. Actually Morrow would 5-0 easily.
Morrow got alot of his wins from pure cheese. Alot of bunkering peoples ramp, reaper rushes etc. To see IDRA reaper rush morrow would be too sweet.
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1500++ terran can play too ?
if they play off race for this ? or are you looking at people most played race ?
thx for reply
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So, the Zerg has to win 6 games while the Terran only has to win 5?
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Lol, this sounds very cool. :D
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On September 28 2010 04:42 cronican wrote:
So, the Zerg has to win 6 games while the Terran only has to win 5?
its his money, also 5-5 is a draw, a Bo11 covers this better than Bo10
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On September 28 2010 04:42 cronican wrote:
So, the Zerg has to win 6 games while the Terran only has to win 5?
I would say it's fair. Zerg player loses nothing while he loses 200. So obviously ties go to the host. Similar to casinos Except Zerg doesn't have to put any money down.
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ZvT is actually not nearly as bad as ZvP.
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The good thing with the format is, that terran only needs to figure out one strong strat on ONE map that works 100% of the time, e.g. steppes of war reaper rush. Then he cant lose 6 games can he?
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Can I sign up for this? MasterAsia.173. 1900 zerg.
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Oooooh, go MasterAsia! :D
For great justice
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i bet this is a troll thread
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On September 28 2010 04:48 MasterAsia wrote:
Can I sign up for this? MasterAsia.173. 1900 zerg.
WooT! Stream/VOD or make replays avaliable after games!
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I don't know what the point of this is but just FYI even if T is for a fact overpowered against Z, statistically it shouldn't take that many trials for Z to win. You know you are for 100% sure giving away $200 here right? Not that there's anything wrong with that but I'm just saying I hope you don't think 10 games is a big sample or anything.
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On September 28 2010 02:44 GoddeR wrote:
will the matches be streamed? 1800 Z here in us server...
haha godder, when i saw this i was like, hmm seems like something godder could do.
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hmm, well if this is real I would love to try :D
Machine.891
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I'm just wodnering what the reason for that challange is. Also, who is the poor terran guy who has to play against 20+ people at least 6 matches each?!
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On September 28 2010 04:48 MasterAsia wrote:
Can I sign up for this? MasterAsia.173. 1900 zerg.
Ofcourse you can.
Also I'm leaving work now so will be seeing you all tonight.
I will try to go through the zergs in the order they have posted here unless they are not online.
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Man this Terran better be damn good if he prays to take on the likes of Darkforce, Machine or MasterAsia. Imbalance or not they're just flat out good players.
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On September 28 2010 04:45 Ocedic wrote:
ZvT is actually not nearly as bad as ZvP.
Ling/muta. Learn it. Have Ultras by the time their mineral lines are fully cannoned and their stalkers hit critical mass.
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People need to read OP. I hope this isn't a troll thread, it's an awesome challenge if it's legit. It's also fun for any 1500+ zergs that do it. Play a game you'd already be playing, but maybe win $200 in the process. Hope it happens.
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On September 28 2010 04:53 Machine[USA] wrote:
hmm, well if this is real I would love to try :D
Machine.891
have u not learned yet? arghhhhhh
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signing up ajtls
ajtls.789
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On September 28 2010 04:58 KamuL wrote:
signing up ajtls
ajtls.789
Hahaha don't let last shadow participate. Why the hell are people letting him participate in ANYTHING anyways?
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LOL, this needs to be streamed AND commentated on.
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This is awesome. Since the winner of this will get $200 and glory, make sure we know who failed the challenge and what the end result was too please
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On September 28 2010 04:45 Ocedic wrote:
ZvT is actually not nearly as bad as ZvP.
no kidding
x gate rollover is too good vs Z
more balanced than pre-patch tho
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This is Rigged.
Z wins --> T picks Kulas.
T wins --> Z picks map XYZ
Z wins --> T picks Kulas
T wins --> Z picks map ZYX
rinse and repeat.
Impossible for Zerg to win more than 50% of the games if 50% of the games are on Kulas Ravine. = D
edit: 1 map removal allowed per player.
oh, I can't read. Anyway, then one of the other horribly imba maps.
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On September 28 2010 05:05 DTown wrote:
This is Rigged.
Z wins --> T picks Kulas.
T wins --> Z picks map XYZ
Z wins --> T picks Kulas
T wins --> Z picks map ZYX
rinse and repeat.
Impossible for Zerg to win more than 50% of the games if 50% of the games are on Kulas Ravine. = D
its a shame the natural is so undefendable, and that they block the third with so many rocks, and the gold is so open, leaves Z with like no options
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Sounds like easy money to me. I don't think any Terran can beat every one of these Zerg players consistently.
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On September 28 2010 05:07 link0 wrote:
Sounds like easy money to me. I don't think any Terran can beat every one of these Zerg players consistently.
Everyone? Certainly not. However if some random 1500 Terran (I really have no clue who the Terran is, it could be Qxc for all I know) can beat the likes of DarkForce, Machine or MasterAsia I think we can make some conclusions. Conclusions already well known, but conclusions.
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Wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be a troll thread.
My heart is with Z, always.
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On September 28 2010 04:59 Adeny wrote:Hahaha don't let last shadow participate. Why the hell are people letting him participate in ANYTHING anyways?
because he's proven himself for the past three years, at dozens of offline events, and has accomplished more than 100% of the people that actually do flame him?
nice job hoping on the bandwagon, since im 100% sure he's never done anything to you.
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Someone will win it for sure but $200 is really not that much. Could be a bet to say "for every zerg I beat, you pay $50, else I pay out $400 (half goes to challenge winner)". Or it could be an aspiring pro who has a day job (or being sponsored by a team) and stuck in NA looking for worthy zerg to practice with. Ryze already added the two people listed in OP post so they'll get shit-stormed if this is fake.
So....
Game on!
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On September 28 2010 05:07 link0 wrote:
Sounds like easy money to me. I don't think any Terran can beat every one of these Zerg players consistently.
I would wager $200 that if this is real, he expects to lose the $200. I doubt he's walking into this thinking, I'm going to trounce all these zerg players. What his motives are we have speculated, but no way we can know unless he tells us.
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On September 28 2010 05:16 Mystix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 05:07 link0 wrote:
Sounds like easy money to me. I don't think any Terran can beat every one of these Zerg players consistently. I would wager $200 that if this is real, he expects to lose the $200. I doubt he's walking into this thinking, I'm going to trounce all these zerg players. What his motives are we have speculated, but no way we can know unless he tells us.
I'd wager $200 that your wager of $200 that this is real and he expects to lose the $200 is fake.
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This is racism against the protoss race!
I demand that he gets banned.
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Teddy, I didn't say I'd wager 200 that this is real. My statement clearly implies that IF this is real, he doesn't expect to win all games. However, if you would like to continue on that wager, sure.
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On September 28 2010 05:05 DTown wrote:This is Rigged. Z wins --> T picks Kulas. T wins --> Z picks map XYZ Z wins --> T picks Kulas T wins --> Z picks map ZYX rinse and repeat. Impossible for Zerg to win more than 50% of the games if 50% of the games are on Kulas Ravine. = D edit: oh, I can't read. Anyway, then one of the other horribly imba maps.
Then it sounds like Zotac cup!
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lol damn u op, i was gonna off-race as T on my new NA account. So tempted to just ladder climb to 1500 as Z now -____-"
...This could be the rise of a new Pro challenging the world =]
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This sounds awesome, I'm just mostly interested in seeing zerg games these games. Hope these will be casted and replays released.
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On September 28 2010 04:45 Ocedic wrote:
ZvT is actually not nearly as bad as ZvP.
it is posts like this taht ruins threads.
PS please stream or release vods. i wonder if someone good'll commentate?
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On September 28 2010 05:22 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 05:05 DTown wrote:This is Rigged. Z wins --> T picks Kulas. T wins --> Z picks map XYZ Z wins --> T picks Kulas T wins --> Z picks map ZYX rinse and repeat. Impossible for Zerg to win more than 50% of the games if 50% of the games are on Kulas Ravine. = D edit: 1 map removal allowed per player. oh, I can't read. Anyway, then one of the other horribly imba maps. Then it sounds like Zotac cup!
"I see what u did there"
They should really use some of the Iccup maps which were posted in another thread? It had remakes of good makes such as FS, Gods garden and Matchpoint.
Would LOVE to see what people make of the mineral only on matchpoint oO
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Someone is bound to win eventually, but I am guessing the point of this bet is to see how many Zergs it takes until someone finally claims the $200
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Holy names! in this thread.
And yes like Iplaythings said, this should be on those iCCups maps
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On September 28 2010 05:31 Vaporeon wrote:Holy names! in this thread. And yes like Iplaythings said, this should be on those iCCups maps
Not if they're trying to prove a point about Blizzard's maps....
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On September 28 2010 02:53 thecasual wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 02:52 NATO wrote:
No restriction on Terran skill? Seems too easy... I don't understand the question. The terran opponent is provided.
He means there's no rule concerning the Terran's skill level.
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On September 28 2010 04:07 Or-a wrote:
I'd either want to see Cella, December or Prince Xizor take up the challenge: all three have amazing ZvT. :D
interesting.... i may do this. if i win the money it'll be donated to charity, why? because it would allow me to doubly prove zerg is > Terran. not only did i win 6/10 but i gave my money to people who need it and not gambled on the internet. Moral and direct victory!!
anyway yeah i'm considering it i'll leave it at that.
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A bo10 with Zerg needing to win at least 6 games?
How many Zerg users does this Terran plan on facing?
I'd expect this to be an on-going challenge [like over the course of a few days], as it's going to be difficult for anyone to play non-stop ZvT against x amount of Zergs. This is assuming he doesn't lose to the first Zerg he faces.
This is also assuming that the OP isn't just a troll.
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I love how 200$ brings the absolute best of the best that the eSports in this game have to offer... Jeez, my golf tourneys pay more for the winner.
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On September 28 2010 05:36 Helmet EU wrote:
I love how 200$ brings the absolute best of the best that the eSports in this game have to offer... Jeez, my golf tourneys pay more for the winner.
Your golf tourneys also need a bit more commitment than this one.
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On September 28 2010 05:36 Helmet EU wrote:
I love how 200$ brings the absolute best of the best that the eSports in this game have to offer... Jeez, my golf tourneys pay more for the winner.
i also love how you make more money winning 6 games in the prelims for the GSL than for this. so it's all good.
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On September 28 2010 05:36 Helmet EU wrote:
I love how 200$ brings the absolute best of the best that the eSports in this game have to offer... Jeez, my golf tourneys pay more for the winner.
"I love belittling others on the internet while adding nothing constructive to the discussion and bragging about how rich I am. Yay me!"
It sounds to me like you should be lurking a golf forum. I for one am watching this thread with great interest. As unlikely as it sounds I hope the first zerg chosen wins the money 6-0, just to stick it to Mr. OP (original poster AND overpowered).
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I really wonder, who the T is. Also, i definitely would watch the stream!!
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On September 28 2010 05:49 trevf wrote:
i love lamp
fire thunder shark better
seriously , we know who the terran player ?
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This would be the easiest 100$ two people could ever make.
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On September 28 2010 05:56 Bosu wrote:
This would be the easiest 100$ two people could ever make.
Or you can read it again instead of confusing some people.
It would be great if the guys who play could update this for ever bo10 match and/or add some streams and replays. I'm curious what the OP's intentions are.
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I love the nerds here saying that $200 for 10 games wouldn't be worth someone's time when you have top tier people entering 512 person tourney's for $100 that take 6+ hours. If I was any of the top tier zerg I'd be jumping at this chance. Though I would want a TL admin to hold onto the money before jumping in. Just to make sure no one wastes their time.
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On September 28 2010 05:56 Bosu wrote:
This would be the easiest 100$ two people could ever make.
Why would it be two? I see no advantage of having two players.
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On September 28 2010 06:05 Mystix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 05:56 Bosu wrote:
This would be the easiest 100$ two people could ever make. Why would it be two? I see no advantage of having two players.
He obviously misread the OP don't mind him.
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On September 28 2010 06:05 Mystix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 05:56 Bosu wrote:
This would be the easiest 100$ two people could ever make. Why would it be two? I see no advantage of having two players.
He's saying that he thinks cheating will go on despite the fact its obvious the op trusts the terran player in question. Ie troll post.
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Since I assume the point of this event is to have zerg overcome an obvious disadvantage, I hope the terran is as abusive as possible. If we're lucky it will be morrow since he is a great player who uses terran abuse (which is fine) to his full advantage :D.
Edit: with the zerg signing up in this thread, it is going to have to be morrow if we don't want it to be a beat-down.
Also, can an admin please confirm if the OP is legit or if we are just having our chain pulled?
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I have my remaining trial keys for the NA server if anyone is interested in using them for this event I will offer one out if the organizer is OK with this please PM me and I will give you the key (event organizers) and they can give that key to a player who they feel is eligible to compete.
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This is cool.
Lead me to believe the two OP's have discovered some incredibly abusive strategy they believe is unbeatable, which to me is some pretty sick shit, I love finding ways to break the game.
Will be exciting to see how this turns out.
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pretty sure the terran wont win the 200 bucks only the zerg can win the 200 bucks now which zerg will win the 200 bucks is beyond anyone. now who the terran is, is beyond anyone as well.
I would find it funny that the first zerg to try this will win.
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lol. I know who it is and all I can say is.. Poor z.... This will make more people switch to T
Edit: I guess ill stream it if they set up a time / date
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I think we're all dying to know:
1) is this legit (i get the sense that it is)
2) who is this boss terran
I hope this gets started ASAP, I've very excited about it. Hope I'm not being trolled. :p
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On September 28 2010 06:25 Yellow-Snow wrote:lol. I know who it is and all I can say is.. Poor z.... This will make more people switch to T Edit: I guess ill stream it if they set up a time / date
If you do set up a stream, thanks a lot
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This is the most exciting post in months!
Liquidbet on the number of players needed before the Zerg wins, please?
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On September 28 2010 06:17 sob3k wrote:
This is cool.
Lead me to believe the two OP's have discovered some incredibly abusive strategy they believe is unbeatable, which to me is some pretty sick shit, I love finding ways to break the game.
Will be exciting to see how this turns out.
It's not 1 strat. its about 10. And yes, the Z we cg with believe its unbeatable. They have been trying to beat these strats for months and have failed to do so. I believe this is why they are hosting this event. We need a new perspective because we are not getting any closer in our CG's or Ladder.
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Is it open to pro players? If Idra read this, this could be quick 200$ for him xD
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On September 28 2010 06:32 Mateo0 wrote:
Is it open to pro players? If Idra read this, this could be quick 200$ for him xD
Not sure. OP's decision. I can say Idra has fallen couple (maybe multiple) times. Not saying he couldn't pull off the 6/10 but its not a given.
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You should charge 5$ to everyone that want to apply.
May be you finish with surplus.
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On September 28 2010 06:30 Yellow-Snow wrote:
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It's not 1 strat. its about 10. And yes, the Z we cg with believe its unbeatable.
10 unbeatable strats wow. Now i'm looking forward to this. 
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On September 28 2010 06:35 Aborash wrote:
You should charge 5$ to everyone that want to apply.
May be you finish with surplus.
I agree. I'm surprised tho how they made it 6/10. I would of suggested best of 3 and if they win 2 then move to 6/10 to allow more users the chance.
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On September 28 2010 06:35 Yellow-Snow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 06:32 Mateo0 wrote:
Is it open to pro players? If Idra read this, this could be quick 200$ for him xD Not sure. OP's decision. I can say Idra has fallen couple (maybe multiple) times. Not saying he couldn't pull off the 6/10 but its not a given.
Wow! Please tell us, who he is! And please stream it! This could be awesome :-)
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Get idra in here, make a showmatch?
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Such big names :o I really wonder where this is going. Please VOD this!
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On September 28 2010 06:30 Yellow-Snow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 06:17 sob3k wrote:
This is cool.
Lead me to believe the two OP's have discovered some incredibly abusive strategy they believe is unbeatable, which to me is some pretty sick shit, I love finding ways to break the game.
Will be exciting to see how this turns out. It's not 1 strat. its about 10. And yes, the Z we cg with believe its unbeatable. They have been trying to beat these strats for months and have failed to do so. I believe this is why they are hosting this event. We need a new perspective because we are not getting any closer in our CG's or Ladder.
what does CG mean? competitively game?
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Wow. I also know who it probably is (I know the OP). I am not going to reveal it because the OP made it vague on purpose.
I am hoping this mysterious terran player would "holdout" for some $ himself or you would be forced to bring in lesser quality terran and give away the 200$ with nothing learned.
As I have said before, I am willing to be your agent.
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On September 28 2010 06:49 HelloSon wrote:
what does CG mean? competitively game?
I had to ponder on this too for some time, but I believe it is 'Custom Game'.
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CG is indeed Custom Game.
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The opponent will be "sent to you"? Sounds like a vending machine for Terrans. You may be objectified, but at least you're OP. :D
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I cant wait to watch this
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Well they definitely have the hype thing figured out, delivering on this will be a much tougher order. Color me intrigued. I'll be sure to check back often and I hope they find a great way to run this because it has the potential to be amazing if this isn't all hyperbole.
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Maybe we should pre-screen these people so we can give more people a shot?
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someone needs to contact Psy and get him to attempt this.
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Here are my thoughts.
They should have "Beat the Terran Tuesdays and Thursdays"
Few people from the list will be selected in order to beat the Terran on those days.
1 User will stream the games with about 6 of us casting / explaining. The reason I think our CG group should cast it because we understand the dynamics of why EXACTLY the T is doing what he is doing.
* Note: These strats are not as simple as do x y z to win. I personally can't copy these strats even tho I see how broken they are.
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a Terran that wants to show everybody his race is OP? sounds like morrow..
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no offense but this seems less and less legit everytime yellow-snow posts. Maybe I'm too cynical but I'm getting a bad troll vibe from him.
-10 unbeatable strats only him and his CG friends have discovered?
-Purpose of the challenge is to find ways to beat these strategies?
-IdrA has already lost to them?
-His friends should commentate because only they can understand the intricacies of what the T is doing?
Just starts to sound more outlandish each post.
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Please, please, please share the replays with any decent caster. I'd love watching this.
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On September 28 2010 07:25 crms wrote:
no offense but this seems less and less legit everytime yellow-snow posts. Maybe I'm too cynical but I'm getting a bad troll vibe from him.
-10 unbeatable strats only him and his CG friends have discovered?
-Purpose of the challenge is to find ways to beat these strategies?
-IdrA has already lost to them?
Just starts to sound more outlandish each post.
doesn't really sound that outlandish. I don't think he claimed they were unbeatable, just broken (aka probably pretty OP). IdrA does lose from time to time. Even though he is awesome.
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On September 28 2010 07:29 Cade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 07:25 crms wrote:
no offense but this seems less and less legit everytime yellow-snow posts. Maybe I'm too cynical but I'm getting a bad troll vibe from him.
-10 unbeatable strats only him and his CG friends have discovered?
-Purpose of the challenge is to find ways to beat these strategies?
-IdrA has already lost to them?
Just starts to sound more outlandish each post. doesn't really sound that outlandish. I don't think he claimed they were unbeatable, just broken (aka probably pretty OP). IdrA does lose from time to time. Even though he is awesome.
he did say they were unbeatable, and that there were about 10 of these unbeatable strategies. I'm not saying IdrA is unbeatble, of course he is. He also claimed only his friends should commentate because only they can understand the intricacies of the T strat. I'm pretty sure any competant player could understand the strategies, there is nothing they could have discovered that is so mindblowingly game changing that people just couldn't comprehend. Let alone 10 of these types of strategies.
I hope I'm wrong because I was very excited about this challenge, it just seems to get more ridiculous as the thread goes on. As I said I'm cynical to a fault at times.
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On September 28 2010 07:35 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 07:29 Cade wrote:On September 28 2010 07:25 crms wrote:
no offense but this seems less and less legit everytime yellow-snow posts. Maybe I'm too cynical but I'm getting a bad troll vibe from him.
-10 unbeatable strats only him and his CG friends have discovered?
-Purpose of the challenge is to find ways to beat these strategies?
-IdrA has already lost to them?
Just starts to sound more outlandish each post. doesn't really sound that outlandish. I don't think he claimed they were unbeatable, just broken (aka probably pretty OP). IdrA does lose from time to time. Even though he is awesome. he did say they were unbeatable, and that there were about 10 of these unbeatable strategies. I'm not saying IdrA is unbeatble, of course he is. He also claimed only his friends should commentate because only they can understand the intricacies of the T strat. I'm pretty sure any competant player could understand the strategies, there is nothing they could have discovered that is so mindblowingly game changing that people just couldn't comprehend. Let alone 10 of these types of strategies. I hope I'm wrong because I was very excited about this challenge, it just seems to get more ridiculous as the thread goes on. As I said I'm cynical to a fault at times.
He said his zerg compatriots thought they were unbeatable (maybe they're just not good enough).
I agree with your thoughts on yellow-snow, however. His posts sound trollish and I hope he has no actual link to the OP and is just trolling his thread. I know I wouldn't like it if a friend of mine kept butting in like this and offer his unsolicited opinions on how to run my challenge in a public forum. It's called PM.
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On September 28 2010 04:57 Liquid`Ret wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:53 Machine[USA] wrote:
hmm, well if this is real I would love to try :D
Machine.891 have u not learned yet? arghhhhhh
What does this mean??
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I guess I got to excited. These strats are amazing along with the player which makes it really hard for z to win 6 games.
I do know that when I watch streams most are bad and just point out the obvious. His play is very unique and he's a t. That means there are tons of op strats. He has told us specifically why he does what he does which I think would benefit the community more
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I'll respectfully shut up now then. I was just excited for this contest as you see. I'll see you on the stream!
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both of us are online now. You can proceed to message us online.
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Ok we're hyped but when's the first match gonna start?
EDIT: Wow, talk about timing. Glhf guys!
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On September 28 2010 07:44 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:57 Liquid`Ret wrote:On September 28 2010 04:53 Machine[USA] wrote:
hmm, well if this is real I would love to try :D
Machine.891 have u not learned yet? arghhhhhh What does this mean??
Probably means that Machine shouldn't be giving his id out in a public forum. Lots of people see his id and add him, which just results in mindless spam.
Of course, I could be totally off base.
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I suck way to much to try this, but here's some strategy for someone who does go for it:
+ Show Spoiler +
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Given the amount of info given out in this thread, it is quite easy to figure out who the Terran in question is. I won't post the player name (since OP didn't post it in the first place) though he is in the world top 200 players.
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It sounds nice but doesn't make any sense to me..
I mean if you have "10 unbeatable strats" which you were using on ladder why is noone else using them? If you played (and beat) Idra and other high level players it seems very unlikely none of them would analyse those strars and showed to others.
Another thing - why do you want to share those strats with others? Why don't you use them to your advantage in tournaments? Or why don't you sell them?
also - "they have been trying to beat these strats for months"?
and last - OP, you and one other guy who claims to be part of your mysterious group have all under 20 posts.
yeah, with all this, it sounds incredibly fishy but I wish it was real nevertheless
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On September 28 2010 07:49 thecasual wrote:
both of us are online now. You can proceed to message us online.
Will you be providing or allowjng a stream?
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FabIntegral.581
1503 pts but I have like 100 bonus points as I haven't played really at all the last few weeks.
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"Given the amount of info given out in this thread, it is quite easy to figure out who the Terran in question is. I won't post the player name (since OP didn't post it in the first place) though he is in the world top 200 players."
Haha you know how many terrans are in the top 200? You didnt really narrow it down much.
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On September 28 2010 07:57 Novicane wrote:
"Given the amount of info given out in this thread, it is quite easy to figure out who the Terran in question is. I won't post the player name (since OP didn't post it in the first place) though he is in the world top 200 players."
Haha you know how many terrans are in the top 200? You didnt really narrow it down much.
I can be more specific too that he is #2 in his division currently just below another prominent Terran who posts on this forum + Show Spoiler +(you probably heard of him).
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Well number 2 in qxc's division is Hincram so i guess thats him.
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Any mod info on if this is legit or are we being trolled?
The fact all the people in on it have like 15posts makes me worried.
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I just spoke to them and they said they're attempting to set up a stream right now. Just thought I'd update you guys!~
EDIT: and apparently the first game is going on right now.
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On September 28 2010 08:04 On_Slaught wrote:
Any mod info on if this is legit or are we being trolled?
The fact all the people in on it have like 15posts makes me worried.
Why would you be worried? It's not like you need to pay for something to play for the contest/bet/whatever.
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The Terran probably just wants more varied opponents. If it's gotten to the point where his Z practice partners don't even try anymore, and given the rarity of Zs at the top levels on Ladder, it's not unreasonable to pay $200 once to get in dozens of practice games to test a strat.
Or, as has been stated, they might be trying to prove a point and maybe get Blizzard's attention or something.
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I have to get up early tomorrow, any chance there will be some kind of VODs?
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Stream is live:
http://www.livestream.com/yellowsnow
Yellow snow is not available, so I am using his account to stream the games. My computer is not setup to stream, so let me know if I have some graphic setup wrong.
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I would have applauded a Rick-roll.
I am still excited to watch this.
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On September 28 2010 08:03 warmGun wrote:
Well number 2 in qxc's division is Hincram so i guess thats him.
Hincram. Now that was easy to figure out!
+ Show Spoiler +
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For me as a casual observer this seams like a fun gig.
If it turns out to be a troll of some sort it reminds me of the more ambisus 4chan "jokes", I'm calling it now
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On September 28 2010 08:10 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 08:03 warmGun wrote:
Well number 2 in qxc's division is Hincram so i guess thats him. Hincram. Now that was easy to figure out! + Show Spoiler +
I posted that before the stream was up. I don't understand your post at all
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Hmmm.... so who exactly is going to play him. Looky is now, but he's 400 points below Hincram so It's not really that fair of a "test" of the "unbeatable strats". I want to see some real pros :p
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not a zerg player but winning 10/10 matches against terran is a greater achievement to accomplish and would be worth $200
6/10 seems a bit easy
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Looky gave up after losing 2 games.
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So the unbeatable strat is landed reacter vikings/ hellion drop with a few marines? I'm not much of a zerg player but i can imagine roaches doing fairly well.
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sound problems with the stream? i cant hear a thing...
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On September 28 2010 08:22 TheFinalWord wrote:
So the unbeatable strat is landed reacter vikings/ hellion drop with a few marines? I'm not much of a zerg player but i can imagine roaches doing fairly well.
Maybe you should play so you can show us how.
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On September 28 2010 08:26 Jigsetcza wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 08:22 TheFinalWord wrote:
So the unbeatable strat is landed reacter vikings/ hellion drop with a few marines? I'm not much of a zerg player but i can imagine roaches doing fairly well. Maybe you should play so you can show us how.
Who is "us". Why would me, a low diamond zerg, playing show anyone anything. Just theory crafting, no need to get passive aggressive.
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On September 28 2010 08:30 TheFinalWord wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 08:26 Jigsetcza wrote:On September 28 2010 08:22 TheFinalWord wrote:
So the unbeatable strat is landed reacter vikings/ hellion drop with a few marines? I'm not much of a zerg player but i can imagine roaches doing fairly well. Maybe you should play so you can show us how. Who is "us". Why would me, a low diamond zerg, playing show anyone anything. Just theory crafting, no need to get passive aggressive.
The first game the opponent went roaches and hincram pulled out banshees. I think the main point is 1 reactor / 1 tech lab ---- air play with hellions
Edit : (2 hellions + 1 shee or 1 hellion + 2 vikings)
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Looks like we are about to have TLS vs this terran guy.
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Hawk.836 1770 Zerg, zvt isn't my forte, but i'll give it a go.
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hincram was a war3 player in the clan craft i believe. I'm not sure if he was craft but hes certainly friends with my craft buddies, like my fav cheesy.
I'll have to ask cheesy (a zerg player) if hincram has been working on some godlike ZvT builds
and to yellow-snow, sorry if I came off brash, like I said i can be cynical to a fault.
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Mp it sounds like u were friends with a lot of us. Surprised u don remember me. Guess I was to old school war3. U should join us in the vent
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So when is this happening?
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On September 28 2010 05:34 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:07 Or-a wrote:
I'd either want to see Cella, December or Prince Xizor take up the challenge: all three have amazing ZvT. :D
interesting.... i may do this. if i win the money it'll be donated to charity, why? because it would allow me to doubly prove zerg is > Terran. not only did i win 6/10 but i gave my money to people who need it and not gambled on the internet. Moral and direct victory!! anyway yeah i'm considering it i'll leave it at that.
WELL if you do attempt this would you consider making a rep folder of it? :'D
On September 28 2010 05:36 Helmet EU wrote:
I love how 200$ brings the absolute best of the best that the eSports in this game have to offer... Jeez, my golf tourneys pay more for the winner.
I love how your gold tournaments are probably endorsed by a company and how this is endorsed out of someones pocket and a gamer at that. :S
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On September 28 2010 08:47 Manifesto7 wrote:
So when is this happening?
Its live
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On September 28 2010 08:47 Manifesto7 wrote:
So when is this happening?
Happening right now, http://www.livestream.com/yellowsnow
ajtls is playing atm..
edit: a little late lol.. sounds like zerg is losing.
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The last shadow just lost the first game to a thor/banshee combination.
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T is up 3-0 against various opponents. Stream link needs to be edited into OP.
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Hahha on my way back from tennis.
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Every loser on this show, should have to change their signature to:
"Terran is Fucking OP"
until a challenger wins this.
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hoping for cella or phoenix to hero it up.
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Ohhh man, masterAsia sign up!!!!
All I think about when I see this guy is:
+ Show Spoiler +The Drone Becomes A EXTRATOR!!!
I think masterAsia got this in the bag.
Wow, TTone will be the first on the fallen list, that would make the list EPIC.
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Can I try the challenge? I actually think I have a build that can deal with the crazy. If it's just one-base stuff I'm not really scared at all.
Edit: Nevermind. I actually need to get work done.
Eh, would've gotten rocked anyway.
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according to sc2ranks both the "terran players" are zerg players O_o
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On September 28 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote:
according to sc2ranks both the "terran players" are zerg players O_o
They aren't playing they are "sponsoring" I think.
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I dont get it, WHY are they letting ajtls play, he mains T, and from the looks of it, his Z isn't even diamond level.
I predict that once either machine or masterasia play this T goes down and thread maker is out 200$.
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hahahaha what a awesome champion to champion the "zerg" (atjas? I mean)
Edit: We should get this shit organized so we can get notable Zerg in next.
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BTW, if MasterAsia and the other zerg can't win this challenge, then it shows that Zerg is UP unless the terran player is one of the top 25 Terrans.
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15 na and 32 global I think
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TLS obviously isn't a zerg player. He keeps picking terrible zerg maps (steppes and then delta) and obviously forgot he isn't playing his main of terran.
Just waiting for this beatdown to end so we can see like machine or darkforce come beat down this terran :D. He seems like a solid player but he isn't being challenged atm.
Edit: OP, you should put the stream in the OP so people comming in see it and don't have to ask/go through the entire thread.
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On September 28 2010 09:00 aztrorisk wrote:
BTW, if MasterAsia and the other zerg can't win this challenge, then it shows that Zerg is UP unless the terran player is one of the top 25 Terrans.
The T playing currently is Hincram (#62 world on sc2ranks) but he has to lose a series eventually..
On September 28 2010 09:02 On_Slaught wrote:
TLS obviously isn't a zerg player. He keeps picking terrible zerg maps (steppes and then delta) and obviously forgot he isn't playing his main of terran.
Just waiting for this beatdown to end so we can see like machine or darkforce come beat down this terran :D. He seems like a solid player but he isn't being challenged atm.
Yea I stopped watching stream, I'm going to wait until a legit Z starts playing, I dont think tls is even diamond level Z, all he does is all-ins off of 1 base, almost like he mains T. OH WAIT...
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Update to preserve the powers of the terran player, we're going to add a new rule, if the player loses 3 in a row, you're automatically put in the fallen list as the terran player will burn out too fast and as Masterasia put it "It will not be an honor to win like this"
As for the unorganized nature of this. This was just an idea that spawned outta our heads while we were bored at work so, we arent professional organizers or something. Something fun for everyone.
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About maps: He said he figures he needs to win on some T maps in order to win 6 games anyway.
Edit: In light of that rule ^^^^^, ls might have been better off choosing maps in a different order...
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On September 28 2010 09:02 thecasual wrote:
Update to preserve the powers of the terran player, we're going to add a new rule, if the player loses 3 in a row, you're automatically put in the fallen list as the terran player will burn out too fast and as Masterasia put it "It will not be an honor to win like this"
Good, can you also update this thread when the real Zs start playing?
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Man this terran player should go pro, knocking out many good players. He has skills; what's his battle.net name?
I do like his build he does TvZ is actually my weakest MU as a Terran player.
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In a shocking turn of events, ls drops.
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lastshadow's zerg is terrible... dq him and let some real zerg play!
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he was down like 25 workers when he dropped... it was a loss for him
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lol lastshadow dics...... once a garbage, always garbage
User was warned for this post
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When I first read this, it almost seems like the OP is offering $200 as a challenge to get a lot of practice against really high level zergs.
Now that it's live, it doesn't really matter since it seems like a pretty fun event
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Might I suggest trying not to add too many more new rules in the middle of the event? Do that too much and you'll cast doubt on the legitimacy of the whole affair. It's better if you think about these things beforehand as much as possible.
That aside, though, this is a fun event. Wish more people did crazy things like this.
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On September 28 2010 09:10 NuKedUFirst wrote:Man this terran player should go pro, knocking out many good players. He has skills; what's his battle.net name? I do like his build he does TvZ is actually my weakest MU as a Terran player.
He has participated in alot of tourneys. I have a feeling that these matches are also a way to get his name out there. It's a good method for not-yet-famous gamers.
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On September 28 2010 09:16 willeesmalls wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 09:10 NuKedUFirst wrote:Man this terran player should go pro, knocking out many good players. He has skills; what's his battle.net name? I do like his build he does TvZ is actually my weakest MU as a Terran player. He has participated in alot of tourneys. I have a feeling that these matches are also a way to get his name out there. It's a good method for not-yet-famous gamers.
Well I don't see how it's getting his name out if I can't figure out what it is haha
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Can you put the final scores besides the player's name on the OP please? Not sure how Looky lost the game so quickly (the rule was added just recently, right?)
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Looky gave up at 2-0. His choice.
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2-0 means he wins 2-0 right? Wonder why he'd tap out.
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On September 28 2010 09:21 Sylvr wrote:
Looky gave up at 2-0. His choice.
Thanks! It would still be useful to newcomers though Oh, it's done. Thanks to the OP.
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No, he just put that badly. Looky gave up when he was down 0-2.
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really good commentary imo
Good to watch for any Terran/zerg players. Very nice strategies.
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Apparently ryze has more wins as terran than zerg? Do we have any actual zerg players who are going to step up? Either that or someone as amazing as tt1 who is just plain better than an 1800lvl player at any race :D.
So far the terran has played 3 zergs:
Lookey 0-2
ajtls 0-3
Ryze 0-1
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surely they should just pick the highest ranked main race zerg who has offered + is online, then the next highest rank and so on?
[edit: i mean basically the object of this is: hey top zerg, show me (a) build(s) that can compete more than 50-50]
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Bunker rush, followed by reactor hellions combined with 2 port banshee, brutal.
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Was Masterasia going to play? Current zergs are decent but could be better. At the moment Terran is just doing the typical annoying terran harass combinations, haven't seen anything new yet but he does them well.
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On September 28 2010 09:25 hagon wrote:
surely they should just pick the highest ranked main race zerg who has offered + is online, then the next highest rank and so on?
Better entertainment. It's like morbid enjoyment from watching WCG, except replacing Korean with Terran and Foreigner with Zerg. I bet Terran is just holding his important cards and throwing out easy ones to the those unneeded.
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On September 28 2010 08:45 Yellow-Snow wrote:
Mp it sounds like u were friends with a lot of us. Surprised u don remember me. Guess I was to old school war3. U should join us in the vent
I met most of them after their war3 peaks.
players like cart, orbby, cheesy, jaden, varione, demontx, demiz, tazz. I'm only still in contact with cheesy and orbby mostly. So we might not have known each other ;P. I wouldn't mind hanging out with some of the old people, ill get vent info from cheesy or demon later. I'm at work now.
edit: i asked cheesy about this challenge on AIM (on my phone) and he was just laughing, I know he shares in the zerg pain of terrantown.
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wanna see him play vs darkforce :D
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some good game sens from the terran.
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On September 28 2010 09:25 On_Slaught wrote:
Apparently ryze has more wins as terran than zerg? Do we have any actual zerg players who are going to step up? Either that or someone as amazing as tt1 who is just plain better than an 1800lvl player at any race :D.
So far the terran has played 3 zergs:
Lookey 0-2
ajtls 0-3
Ryze 0-1
yeah dude a guy with 500 wins on ladder as zerg plays other races more?
Please don't spread false info, look it up it takes 20 seconds and then you won't misinform a bunch of other people too lazy to check facts.
This terran is really impressive tbh (game sense/strategy wise)
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On September 28 2010 09:33 dacthehork wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 09:25 On_Slaught wrote:
Apparently ryze has more wins as terran than zerg? Do we have any actual zerg players who are going to step up? Either that or someone as amazing as tt1 who is just plain better than an 1800lvl player at any race :D.
So far the terran has played 3 zergs:
Lookey 0-2
ajtls 0-3
Ryze 0-1 yeah dude a guy with 500 wins on ladder as zerg plays other races more? Please don't spread false info, look it up it takes 20 seconds and then you won't misinform a bunch of other people too lazy to check facts. This terran is really impressive tbh (game sense/strategy wise)
Meh i'm just talking based on hearsay. Could be completely wrong so w/e.
As for the terran, he is clearly a good player but he is winning on pure counters and timings. His micro on delta was so bad it blows my mind how the zerg didn't win. Looking foward to him playing machine/asia.
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The Terran opponent is FlaSh who has secretly moved to the US and have been practicing since the 1st day of beta. The FlaSh in korea is a clone that Nal_rA worked on in his "practice apartment" (Oldboy coverup).
GL HF to any participants.
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Apparently Ryze will be the last player of the night. Anticlimactic. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted!
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Seems like a collection of 1base strategies that try to force Z into doing something that loses to the followup. Just takes someone who doesn't fall for mind games and overreact to beat him. Winning 6 out of 10 isn't clear for anybody though with spawn/scouting coinflips.
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streamer is horrible hes focusing on chatting instead of streaming...
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id like to try.. Broom.525
cant do it until later tonight as it is 100+ degrees right now where i live and my computer will melt!
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On September 28 2010 09:38 dapierow wrote:
streamer is horrible hes focusing on chatting instead of streaming...
Yeah, camera man is awful
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On September 28 2010 09:38 Teddyman wrote:
Seems like a collection of 1base strategies that try to force Z into doing something that loses to the followup. Just takes someone who doesn't fall for mind games and overreact to beat him. Winning 6 out of 10 isn't clear for anybody though with spawn/scouting coinflips.
rofl
he hasn't lost yet.
Ryze is pretty good the others where kinda trash
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Nice event, the terran is very good and unbeaten for the games i watched (last 4).
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On September 28 2010 09:38 Pyrthas wrote:Apparently Ryze will be the last player of the night. Anticlimactic. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted!
Think they will be back in an hour or so.
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On September 28 2010 09:38 Teddyman wrote:
Seems like a collection of 1base strategies that try to force Z into doing something that loses to the followup. Just takes someone who doesn't fall for mind games and overreact to beat him. Winning 6 out of 10 isn't clear for anybody though with spawn/scouting coinflips.
Yeah the problem with T right now is that they can 1base w/ so much success and have such a large variety of 1base strategies they can do, all of which are very effective and require very different counters.
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Can a mod feature this thread? so we know when it's streaming agn?
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this is all good and fun, but I would like to see him performing well in tournaments rather than in matches hosted by his friends.
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On September 28 2010 09:53 hihu wrote:
this is all good and fun, but I would like to see him performing well in tournaments rather than in matches hosted by his friends.
That is what is funny/ironic with the TvZ mu. If you are great at it, and many terran are, there are very few situations where you will benefit from it since there are so few zerg in tournies/ladder.
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One of the best streams on teamliquid.
seconding voting for it to be a featured stream!
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Interesting event! A change from the usual tourneys or players laddering, props for organizing it.
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Awesome thread, awesome stream, awesome work.
Was just about to go to bed when I clicked into this thread (FUUUUU).
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They're just taking a break.
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On September 28 2010 09:56 On_Slaught wrote:
That is what is funny/ironic with the TvZ mu. If you are great at it, and many terran are, there are very few situations where you will benefit from it since there are so few zerg in tournies/ladder.
Well I guess you have a point, and it's really depressing to admit.
Let's just enjoy the games.
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On September 28 2010 09:31 RotterdaM wrote:
wanna see him play vs darkforce :D
I as well.
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On September 28 2010 02:38 kOre wrote:
Is it a single T opponent in 10 matches, so I play the same guy 10 times? or do I play 10 different T's?
kOre is just planning to sick Phoenix on this guy and tell him the prize is $50 bucks then pocket the difference all smooth like.
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Hincram (the terran) is back and he's going to play either masterasia or machine.
Awesome stream btw really enjoying it, "the commentator team" is pretty good :p
edit: it's masterasia
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Hincram vs masterasia is up. probably last matches of the day assuming masterasia doesnt take it
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Yeah, great job commentary team, this is a lot of fun to watch actually. I get to be entertained and wallow in my misery as a zerg player at the same time! :D
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haha, an unstoppable force just ran into an immovable object. MasterAsia repping for the solid zergs!
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Heck yeah, destroy that immovable object MasterAsia!
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Predicting 6-2 on the series for MasterAsia
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Who has more ladder points? Masterasia or Hincram?
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On September 28 2010 11:02 Devolved wrote:
Who has more ladder points? Masterasia or Hincram?
MasterAsia has 10 more points in ladder, 1888
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on one hand masterasia owning it up is cool but now that means that people wont feel so bad for zerg anymore
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eventually some z (if not Masterasia right now) is gonna make a quick $200 assuming they pay out.
Did Ryze give up after losing just one game or what?
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So masterasia thumbed down LT? Must have some epic strategy planned at the Kulas Ravine.
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On September 28 2010 11:11 Jonoman92 wrote:
eventually some z (if not Masterasia right now) is gonna make a quick $200 assuming they pay out.
Did Ryze give up after losing just one game or what?
he lost 0-3 and they made the rule that you have to retire if you lose 3 in a row
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On September 28 2010 11:12 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 11:11 Jonoman92 wrote:
eventually some z (if not Masterasia right now) is gonna make a quick $200 assuming they pay out.
Did Ryze give up after losing just one game or what? he lost 0-3 and they made the rule that you have to retire if you lose 3 in a row
that the 3 in a row apply to the T as well because it should.
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On September 28 2010 11:15 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 11:12 JBright wrote:On September 28 2010 11:11 Jonoman92 wrote:
eventually some z (if not Masterasia right now) is gonna make a quick $200 assuming they pay out.
Did Ryze give up after losing just one game or what? he lost 0-3 and they made the rule that you have to retire if you lose 3 in a row that the 3 in a row apply to the T as well because it should.
Why?
The point of the rule is to weed out the players that are obviously too bad to play him.
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On September 28 2010 10:25 DminusTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 02:38 kOre wrote:
Is it a single T opponent in 10 matches, so I play the same guy 10 times? or do I play 10 different T's? kOre is just planning to sick Phoenix on this guy and tell him the prize is $50 bucks then pocket the difference all smooth like.
hahahahah would be awesome :D
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Getting awfully full with obs now.
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The condition was getting six win out of ten games. Since this is essentially null-loss game, I can't see why three consecutive loss rule should also be applied to Terran. Also wtf are all those obs flocking like accursed locusts.
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Oh damn, this is getting intense! 2-2
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That was some Very sexy viking play!
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This is AWESOME!!! Fantastic idea, would love to see P and T versions as well.
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On September 28 2010 11:15 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 11:12 JBright wrote:On September 28 2010 11:11 Jonoman92 wrote:
eventually some z (if not Masterasia right now) is gonna make a quick $200 assuming they pay out.
Did Ryze give up after losing just one game or what? he lost 0-3 and they made the rule that you have to retire if you lose 3 in a row that the 3 in a row apply to the T as well because it should.
Nah it was put in according to MasterAsia's wish apparently. He didn't want the T to burn out too much.
Kinda fair imo cause the Z players could've been watching Stream etc while the T has to continuously play.
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3-2 to MA.
The amazing thing about this (correct me if i'm wrong), but I don't think we've seen a single tank or reaper from the terran and he's played at least 10 TvZs on this stream so far.
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On September 28 2010 11:35 me_viet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 11:15 PrinceXizor wrote:On September 28 2010 11:12 JBright wrote:On September 28 2010 11:11 Jonoman92 wrote:
eventually some z (if not Masterasia right now) is gonna make a quick $200 assuming they pay out.
Did Ryze give up after losing just one game or what? he lost 0-3 and they made the rule that you have to retire if you lose 3 in a row that the 3 in a row apply to the T as well because it should. Nah it was put in according to MasterAsia's wish apparently. He didn't want the T to burn out too much. Kinda fair imo cause the Z players could've been watching Stream etc while the T has to continuously play.
I like the rule because it saved us from having to watch more of lastshadow's zerg.
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Thanks OP for setting this up, it's your $200 to entertain ~938 viewers. It's too bad MasterAsia might end it here, I would've liked to see more games with top zerg players
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On September 28 2010 11:41 On_Slaught wrote:
3-2 to MA.
The amazing thing about this (correct me if i'm wrong), but I don't think we've seen a single tank or reaper from the terran and he's played at least 10 TvZs on this stream so far.
Betcha reapers/ Tanks are Hincram's hidden trap cards =P
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On September 28 2010 11:43 dras wrote:
where is the stream? http://www.livestream.com/yellowsnow
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On September 28 2010 11:45 Kikuichimonji wrote:http://www.livestream.com/yellowsnow
ty sir
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On September 28 2010 02:36 thecasual wrote:
The list of Fallen:
Looky 2-0 (tapped out)
Ajtls 3-0
Ryze 3-0
Typically losses are denoted as Win-Loss. So that makes it look like they all won those games. should be 0-2, 0-3, etc.
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On September 28 2010 11:56 DTown wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 02:36 thecasual wrote:
The list of Fallen:
Looky 2-0 (tapped out)
Ajtls 3-0
Ryze 3-0
Typically losses are denoted as Win-Loss. So that makes it look like they all won those games. should be 0-2, 0-3, etc.
Done
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I CALLED IT FIRST! REAPER PLAY IN GAME 7 when score tied at 3-3 =D
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super biased commentators...
such fanboys.
gogo masterasia.
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Interesting games.
In 6 games, not a single tank from the terran, and no reapers until the current game. Lots of drops, bioballs, thors, banshees...
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On September 28 2010 12:05 PhiliBiRD wrote:
super biased commentators...
such fanboys.
gogo masterasia.
What do you expect? They are RL friends. It's fine that they root for them. No different than tasteless/artosis blatantly rooting for the foreign players at the GSL.
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On September 28 2010 04:42 cronican wrote:
So, the Zerg has to win 6 games while the Terran only has to win 5?
actually terran only has to win 3 :-/
whats the point of a BO10 if you are just gonna call it over when they win 3 times in a row?
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The observer needs to slow down...
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On September 28 2010 12:09 dogabutila wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 04:42 cronican wrote:
So, the Zerg has to win 6 games while the Terran only has to win 5? actually terran only has to win 3 :-/ whats the point of a BO10 if you are just gonna call it over when they win 3 times in a row?
Because winning 3 games is not the same as winning 3 games in a row? It strikes me as a pretty decent rule...
Edit: 4-3 MasterAsia
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Master wins the macro game
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God, these games have me on the edge of my seat. Screw studying, go MasterAsia!
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4-3 MA.
First person to win 2 games wins the series!
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Masterasia just won a game making it 4-3.
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Even if the matchup is even, it's disappointing to see how dynamic terran is and how creative you can get. Every game zerg practically does the same thing with a little bit of reactionary variance and hopes he can handle what the terran throws at him next.
Edit: Lol right as I say that zerg 7 pools :>
4-4 now probably.
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if he would have blocked that tech lab from building with his drone he would have had that
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4-4 after banshees get to zerg base with only 1 queen out and lings get into base just to find reapers/marines/helions waiting for them.
If hincran (sp) wins again he wins the series.
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The difference being that when MA varies it up with a 7 pool, he is all-in.
When Hincram varies it up with Thors, Banshees, Marauder drops, Vikings, and whatever he feels like, he's just keeping MA on his toes, at no particular pain to himself.
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Haha tuned into this showmatch despite not even playing sc2 regularly, cool stuff.
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Yeah, these games are nicely demonstrating the huge difference in flexibility between the two races.
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but banelings are b-b-b-b-b-bad to the bone
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B-b-b-bad to the bone! *twang twang twang*
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RUBBER GAME
MASTERASIA, I BELIEVE!
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Zerg up 5-4 now after denying another terran all in!
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5-4 to MA!
Pretty epic that this is going all the way to a game 10.
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On September 28 2010 12:24 Jermstuddog wrote:
The difference being that when MA varies it up with a 7 pool, he is all-in.
When Hincram varies it up with Thors, Banshees, Marauder drops, Vikings, and whatever he feels like, he's just keeping MA on his toes, at no particular pain to himself.
Uh, a better comparison would be "varying it up" with BBS, which is definitely an all-in.
Notwithstanding the above, yes, the main point is that Terran has a ton more viable mid-game options than Zerg.
Edit: SCV all-in on low probability shot in order to have map pick for last game and secure win?
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Holy fuck awesome games. The DECIDING GAME APPROACHES!!!
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Sick defense against that all-in. Mad Props
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These are surprisingly awesome games. Like, really.
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Rofl, Trust Hincram to save KULAS RAVINE for the DECIDING GAME GEE GEE
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ughhhh kulas
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These radom Guitar solos are so hilarious :D
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MasterAsia so gm, says Hincram is nice even after he picks Kulas!
Edit: Wow, sloppily loses a couple marines and a reactor. Not looking like a great deciding game so far.
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his creep spread leaves a little to be desired.
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Interesting to note that MasterAsia is about the same point-wise as Hincram, +/- 50 or so. Going even 5-5 shouldn't be too surprising, though hopefully he hits number 6 here.
EDIT: Hey, look at that, MasterAsia's up 200 dollars. Nice.
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FEELS GOOD BRO.
Congrats to MA :D Zerg solidarity.
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Master asia wins! Sweet series!
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this was an interesting contest
grats to masterasia
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gg
now people are going to be like "rofl, IdrA would have easily won that $200"
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Wow Master Asia well played.... respect
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Well, that was underwhelming. Gotta meet the hyped expectations you guys created, man :p
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Master Asia wins 6-4 defeating with muta/ling against Hincram's viking into thors.
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Congrats, though I wish there would be more contestants, :p
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oh man 200 bucks, just like that.
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amazing games from both sides.
gratz masterasia
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Requiem Esports in the house!
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Well played MA..... but the guitar/singing stole the show =D
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good game master asia and hincram. can't wait for the replays!
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very well played by both, thanks for the stream.
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ggs. very entertaining to watch.
the terran pulled out all the overpowered moves on the zerg, and he fended them all off. well played.
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good games! Enjoyable challenge series, hopefully will give some hope to the zerg SC2 players out there
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Nice games, thanks for the stream.
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GG WP I'd love to see more of these, keep up the good work!
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That was amazing! Great job MasterAsia.
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go go go MasterAsia FOR THE SWARM~!!!!!
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gg MasterAsia. But what's with the vikings vs mutas? Don't we all know that's bad?
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And coming next week... $200 PvZ. Lost Temple map only, best of 7.
(I'm kidding of course)
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MasterAsia wins 6-4. Really good series.
Thanks to the people who set this up. Was some really fun games to watch. Also, gratz to Hincram for putting up a good showing. Something like this can only be good for your "e-fame" so you have a great opportunity to go out and win some stuff and ride the high :D.
Overall, good games to watch but what it seems to have come down to in pretty much every loss, other than simply failing with some all-ins, was macro failures. Hincram proved his micro is top-level, and it won him a lot of games. However his macro consistently let him down and put him in situations he shouldn't of been in, even after succesful early game harass. If he can get his macro up to the level of his micro he will be a contender in tournies.
GG WP. Thanks for the show.
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Good series of games that were played against Hincram and MasterAsia. It seemed that the terran Hincram based all of his builds against the weak early game of zerg. If MasterAsia was able to hold off the harassment he was able to pull ahead in the mid to late game and Hincram couldn't do anything about it. Very well played games.
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Thanks for the epic games guys!
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Wow really high level games, Hincram's play was something i hadnt really seen before. But holy, masterasia's play was sooo good. Can't believe he came back after that first game? on metalopolis, i would definitely have crumbled under that kind of pressure.
GG Hincram and Masterasia was an awesome set.
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good games. after seeing the first 2 games i thought MA had this in the bag and it all came down to the final game.
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GG! master asia, great games :DD
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From what I've seen MA is muuuuuch better, especially once it gets past early game, made the terran look outright bronze level in midgame+
Overall am EXTREMELY impressed with MA.
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Will the replays be available at some point in time?
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damn you masterasia for messaging the organizer before me
but seriously though great games, i enjoyed this event quite a bit
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Epic Moment:
2 Rauders + 1 Helion on half hp killing like 10 Zerglings on one of the Xel'Naga Cavern Game.
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i missed it. VoDs?
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that was great, where do i donate?
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This has generated a lot of excitement! There were over 1k people tuning in. Thanks to all the people involved (Warlock, the players and friends as well). This has got me thinking, we should try and pool together some money and do this again. If everyone just tries and chip in a dollar each, we could set something fun up so everyone can watch and hopefully learn from too.
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That was great! Go MasterAsia! Way to represent the swarm.
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On September 28 2010 13:06 DaEm0niCuS wrote:
1700 zerg, BldSwtTrs.100
hahahaha
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aw i missed these games
replays please!
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I missed the games too. Would love replays. Curious what this supposedly OP terran strat was. They must've been pretty good tho to take 4 wins off MasterAsia!
Grats MasterAsia! Way to represent!
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Great games, I feel honored to have caught such an epic facedown. As a zerg player, it felt more like a grudge match between the races of terran and zerg than a competition for a couple of bills. I can't wait to examine the replays in more detail!
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the drone became...
an extractor!
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On September 28 2010 13:09 SpaceYeti wrote:
I missed the games too. Would love replays. Curious what this supposedly OP terran strat was. They must've been pretty good tho to take 4 wins off MasterAsia!
Grats MasterAsia! Way to represent!
I think he had some kind of special bunker rush or something, which from what I saw didn't work in a single game.
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Replays being uploaded somewhere? What was the supposedly OP Terran strat?
Grats MA! <3 Z
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We will be uploading all the replays for everyone and update the original post when its all done. Also for those who want to donate, please PM me.
Thanks all and hope everyone enjoyed this.
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On September 28 2010 13:20 thecasual wrote:
We will be uploading all the replays for everyone and update the original post when its all done. Also for those who want to donate, please PM me.
Thanks all and hope everyone enjoyed this.
Thanks so much for organizing this and releasing the replays! Awesome awesome matches, interesting and funny commentary, and just a lot of fun :D
I would love to see this become a weekly or bi-weekly top player BOX series!
GG MasterAsia and Hincram!
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Thanks guys! I'm wore out as my first time casting in my life. I suck at it but we have fun. Usually we have more people in vent commentating instead of just 1 person. Crazy how we organized this in 1 day just on a whim and it grew substantially every hour.
They are currently uploading the replays.
Also pm OP to donate if you want to see more of this. This was out of WarlockX's pocket.
Would be nice to see these top players get paid more money!
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On September 28 2010 13:20 IPA wrote:
Replays being uploaded somewhere? What was the supposedly OP Terran strat?
Grats MA! <3 Z Basically lots of harassment and drops. Early reapers, marine/marauder drops behind minerals, marine/marauder/banshee, and viking/thor to ensure air dominance so T can hunt OLs, with hellions protecting the thors from mass kekeke.
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I figure if you want to make this work again, there should be some system set up. Whether or not it stays in a similar fashion of 1 player take on all comers or not is upto you guys I guess. Would be nice to have Masterasia take on a race of his choice next week. Maybe limit the number of players and have it that after x wins, he takes the cash prize and fends off his title. Otherwise, new winner has to take on next week's challengers.
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On September 28 2010 13:43 Mystix wrote:
I figure if you want to make this work again, there should be some system set up. Whether or not it stays in a similar fashion of 1 player take on all comers or not is upto you guys I guess. Would be nice to have Masterasia take on a race of his choice next week. Maybe limit the number of players and have it that after x wins, he takes the cash prize and fends off his title. Otherwise, new winner has to take on next week's challengers.
I actually think MasterAsia is down for that after talking to him. He really enjoyed it
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Master Asia should have taken Hincram's extractor for fun on the last game =p
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Main concern would be how many players he would need to go up against and who those players are. I'm sure the general population would like to see high level players, but I'd also like to see some more less than famous players get in as well. Also, donations are going to be :S to many unless there is a trusted system set up.
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On September 28 2010 13:52 Mystix wrote:
Main concern would be how many players he would need to go up against and who those players are. I'm sure the general population would like to see high level players, but I'd also like to see some more less than famous players get in as well. Also, donations are going to be :S to many unless there is a trusted system set up.
I agree. I guess we can trust the orginal guy who forked up 200$ just to see a top player beat a T in multiple games? That or a TL OP? Day 9?
In any case, we all enjoyed the games along with Hincram and MasterAsia!
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On September 28 2010 13:57 arsenic wrote:
Where are they uploaded?
Try reading the first post.
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On September 28 2010 14:00 Yellow-Snow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:52 Mystix wrote:
Main concern would be how many players he would need to go up against and who those players are. I'm sure the general population would like to see high level players, but I'd also like to see some more less than famous players get in as well. Also, donations are going to be :S to many unless there is a trusted system set up. I agree. I guess we can trust the orginal guy who forked up 200$ just to see a top player beat a T in multiple games? That or a TL OP? Day 9? In any case, we all enjoyed the games along with Hincram and MasterAsia!
Would be good to get an organized casting of it. You guys did a great job, but it was thrown together in a day so obviously the next attempt would run smoother.
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On September 28 2010 13:45 Yellow-Snow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:43 Mystix wrote:
I figure if you want to make this work again, there should be some system set up. Whether or not it stays in a similar fashion of 1 player take on all comers or not is upto you guys I guess. Would be nice to have Masterasia take on a race of his choice next week. Maybe limit the number of players and have it that after x wins, he takes the cash prize and fends off his title. Otherwise, new winner has to take on next week's challengers. I actually think MasterAsia is down for that after talking to him. He really enjoyed it
Sounds like the birth of a new KOTH!
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This was extremely awesome. ^-^, does it always have to be TvZ? D:
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I suggest we allow the reigning champ decides who he wants to have a matchup against.
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That was a sick series of games. I hope for a rematch or something soon!
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I feel a grudge match coming on..... hahahaaha
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From what i saw, it seems that Hincram a variety of very abusive openings and all-ins that make it very tough for a zerg player to fend off but Master Asia was just a better player overall past the early stages of the matchups
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On September 28 2010 14:20 RushBoxer! wrote:
From what i saw, it seems that Hincram a variety of very abusive openings and all-ins that make it very tough for a zerg player to fend off but Master Asia was just a better player overall past the early stages of the matchups
Yup. Also Hincram played 8 games before MasterAsia so he didnt play his A+++. Master Asia admitted he got lucky some games but played perfect in others. Hes amazing and is very happy everyone liked watching him.
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On September 28 2010 14:23 Yellow-Snow wrote:
Yup. Also Hincram played 8 games before MasterAsia so he didnt play his A+++. Master Asia admitted he got lucky some games but played perfect in others. Hes amazing and is very happy everyone liked watching him.
Yeah that is true Hincram did play a bunch of games beforehand and may not have been at his best. And i totally agree some of the games could've gone either way. But, I think they are both excellent players. I really enjoyed watching Hincram's early pressure because his harass and micro were awesome. Really looking forward to seeing more of these two in the future.
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On September 28 2010 14:20 RushBoxer! wrote:
From what i saw, it seems that Hincram a variety of very abusive openings and all-ins that make it very tough for a zerg player to fend off but Master Asia was just a better player overall past the early stages of the matchups
I agree. But abusive openings do leave you at a disadvantage if your opponent reacts perfectly.
Terran recovers much better than other races, but still in the games MA won he went into the midgame slightly ahead.
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Saw the first 4 games of the series between Hincram and Masterasia and I felt the need to just say thanks for putting together this event. It was really enjoyable and both Hincram and Masterasia played like total bosses.
Even enjoyed the semi biased commentating, Lolz, hope to see more of these matchups.
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I wasn't exactly impressed by hincram, he just seemed to bank on extremely risky/abusive strategies. MasterAsia's scouting/creep was a bit off, but he did well, and he was the better player going into this. If your friend improves his mid/late game/macro he will be good, but as of now he seems like the typical Terran. Abusive, but no follow up.
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Damn wish I had done this I think I could have done it :D
Grats Asia your 200$ richer now ^^.
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Hincram is a very decent player. I felt huge pressure even in the games I won. I have to admit if I did not watch the games he played vs ryze I probably couldnt have defended the banshee push in the first game.
Although it seems that his late game is not as good, I would say probably he was too convinced that his early game strategies would work. I have played some games against the top terrans such as fenix, select, qxc ... on the US ladder. I would say Hincram is not any easier to deal with (even bigger early pressure). Each game is hard. No easy win for me today.
Also, thanks for the cheering and FOR THE SWARM!
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Masterasia new Zerg hero!
FOR THE SWARM!
thanks for the fun games.
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Yeah, thanks a lot for arranging this - was very fun to watch!
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I hope some VODs come online with the commentary. That's better than watching replays I'm so interested in how MA pulled this off!
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On September 28 2010 16:48 Cloud145 wrote:I hope some VODs come online with the commentary. That's better than watching replays I'm so interested in how MA pulled this off!
I'm replaying the match last night at
http://www.livestream.com/yellowsnow/ if you would like to watch
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This was a really great idea! Props to both Masterasia and the team behind the money for a fun time!
Also, thanks for the replays.
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Money has been sent to Masterasia, gratz!
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can someone upload the whole replay pack, its kinda annoying to download 20 files :D
thanks in advance :D
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On September 28 2010 23:29 Viruuus wrote:
can someone upload the whole replay pack, its kinda annoying to download 20 files :D
thanks in advance :D
http://www.mediafire.com/?kb67mn279cmoc66
someone put this in the OP
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I watched the first 6 games and WOW they were pretty good. Back and forth, harassment, 2 pronged attacks, drops, nydus. Thanks for a awesome Monday evening guys!
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What a great little event, where did the idea come from?
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On September 28 2010 23:40 Ghad wrote:
What a great little event, where did the idea come from?
Work.. chatter..
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I loved the games, they made me stay up until 5AM. I think Hincram is my new favorite Terran, I love the action and creativity in his games.
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wow awsome games really hard to counter indeed !!! great fun to watch
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On September 28 2010 14:38 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
I wasn't exactly impressed by hincram, he just seemed to bank on extremely risky/abusive strategies. MasterAsia's scouting/creep was a bit off, but he did well, and he was the better player going into this. If your friend improves his mid/late game/macro he will be good, but as of now he seems like the typical Terran. Abusive, but no follow up.
and i thought thats the whole point of this $200 fun game?:> the existence of this game is wholly based on the fact that zerg is UP now.
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On September 29 2010 00:43 Batch wrote:
I loved the games, they made me stay up until 5AM. I think Hincram is my new favorite Terran, I love the action and creativity in his games.
+ 1 I'm so tired now after having meetings the whole day. That's probably what kept me awake @ work
Great stuff, I'm prepared to add $50 for the next event, but I want to see Terran vs Protoss and the unbeatable strategy next time!
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Thanks for posting replays!! We're having a heat wave in SoCal and power went out in my complex last night about half hour before live streaming :'(
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On September 28 2010 23:21 Warlock-X wrote:
Money has been sent to Masterasia, gratz!
I have received the money. 200 CAD (thought it was USD xD). Thanks a lot.
If you need I can open a new thread to verify this for you.
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On September 29 2010 03:25 MasterAsia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 23:21 Warlock-X wrote:
Money has been sent to Masterasia, gratz! I have received the money. 200 CAD (thought it was USD xD). Thanks a lot. If you need I can open a new thread to verify this for you.
lol, that's pretty funny
go buy yourself a nice moose ^^
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On September 29 2010 03:25 MasterAsia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 23:21 Warlock-X wrote:
Money has been sent to Masterasia, gratz! I have received the money. 200 CAD (thought it was USD xD). Thanks a lot. If you need I can open a new thread to verify this for you.
You got shorted 6 dollars!
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On September 29 2010 03:25 MasterAsia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 23:21 Warlock-X wrote:
Money has been sent to Masterasia, gratz! I have received the money. 200 CAD (thought it was USD xD). Thanks a lot. If you need I can open a new thread to verify this for you.
We canadians! :p Besides, could just wait for when the CAD owns the USD again, or when Canada takes over the world.....
Hahaha anyways congrats Masterasia, up to you if you'd like to post a new thread. Hope to see you more in our custom games .
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While this challenge was amazing and entertaining with the stakes, I am waiting for this:On September 28 2010 01:46 clitvin wrote:
And if any zerg out there exists that can come and smash my terran practice partner more then 50% of the time I will litteraly eat my socks and post it on youtube. Because I honestly belive its not possible.
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was a fun thing to watch last night, congrats to masterasia
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On September 29 2010 03:58 Chill wrote:While this challenge was amazing and entertaining with the stakes, I am waiting for this: Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 01:46 clitvin wrote:
And if any zerg out there exists that can come and smash my terran practice partner more then 50% of the time I will litteraly eat my socks and post it on youtube. Because I honestly belive its not possible.
He will have to obviously have to broil those socks and use a steak knife, I do wonder what seasoning goes well with socks.
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On September 29 2010 06:01 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 03:58 Chill wrote:While this challenge was amazing and entertaining with the stakes, I am waiting for this: On September 28 2010 01:46 clitvin wrote:
And if any zerg out there exists that can come and smash my terran practice partner more then 50% of the time I will litteraly eat my socks and post it on youtube. Because I honestly belive its not possible. He will have to obviously have to broil those socks and use a steak knife, I do wonder what seasoning goes well with socks.
Sriracha Sauce! DU! Goes with EVERYTHING!
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so would it possible for me to play this weekend?: D
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On September 30 2010 00:52 Gimpb wrote:
Very enjoyable games!
They definitely had some great creativity and took a lot of skill to execute, but it was simply a set of all ins. I didn't get an "epic" feeling what so ever from these matches. I didn't feel the skill levels of the two players were even remotely close (The masterasia games anyways.. what a beast).
Aside from that... I definitely give props and thanks to everyone involved. It was highly entertaining. I think with some work to the casting it's a fantastic thing to keep going.
I know I would surely donate to this in the future. I think the community donating to see some of these epic players go at it is a really good route for everyone.... certainly more motivation for the pros.
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On September 29 2010 03:58 Chill wrote:While this challenge was amazing and entertaining with the stakes, I am waiting for this: Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 01:46 clitvin wrote:
And if any zerg out there exists that can come and smash my terran practice partner more then 50% of the time I will litteraly eat my socks and post it on youtube. Because I honestly belive its not possible.
+1 man i don't know how i miss this coment XD so.. Clitvin whos your partner so this Zerg players can have a go at it
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gz to masterasia!
I would love to have to seen "A Fruit Dealer" take up this challenge as he has been eating up every terran in his path in GSL..... from what i've seen of how he plays Zerg defo arent underpowered in the right hands.
I really hope that Dimaga, Idra et al don't jump ship to terran because as the game developes and blizz slowly balance things properly they will just smash everyone. this is coming from a terran too! I am seriously thinking of switching to zerg myself as it looks very fun and I think suits my playstyle better than terran.
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On September 30 2010 02:44 emythrel wrote:
gz to masterasia!
I would love to have to seen "A Fruit Dealer" take up this challenge as he has been eating up every terran in his path in GSL..... from what i've seen of how he plays Zerg defo arent underpowered in the right hands.
I really hope that Dimaga, Idra et al don't jump ship to terran because as the game developes and blizz slowly balance things properly they will just smash everyone. this is coming from a terran too! I am seriously thinking of switching to zerg myself as it looks very fun and I think suits my playstyle better than terran.
Last I heard Cool (FruitVendor) swears he's switching from Z in the next GSL "I'll be damned if I play Z in the next GSL" -.-
But yeah...
On September 28 2010 02:57 Ryze wrote:
ryze.448
currently 1700
Too bad it wasn't a ZvZ challenge against Ryze! I woulda took that! XD
Hincram is a beasty Terran imo... Played him a few times during Beta...
Will definitely watch all of those as soon as I get home from school... (In about 8 hrs -.-)
Last but not least... CONGRATS TO MasterAsia!!! XD <3 xoxo
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A Fruit Dealer told Artosis in his latest interview that he is happy with the results he has achieved with Zerg this GSL and will stick with them.
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On September 30 2010 11:42 CynicalDoc wrote:
Fruit Dealer told Artosis in his latest interview that he is happy with the results he has achieved with Zerg this GSL and will stick with them.
Well... I complain about imbalance sometimes... I don't feel that ZvT is completely balanced but I'm not planning on switching. I feel that it will get fixed eventually and I'll just have better results in my play. I love zerg too much to switch and I'm sure he feels the same way. I'd rather quit SC2 altogether than switch races tbh.
ZERG USERS, HWAITING!!!!
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Ugh, I would have loved to do this challenge but I am 1250 diamond zerg and therefore could not do it .
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On September 29 2010 06:06 Yellow-Snow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 06:01 NoobSkills wrote:On September 29 2010 03:58 Chill wrote:While this challenge was amazing and entertaining with the stakes, I am waiting for this: On September 28 2010 01:46 clitvin wrote:
And if any zerg out there exists that can come and smash my terran practice partner more then 50% of the time I will litteraly eat my socks and post it on youtube. Because I honestly belive its not possible. He will have to obviously have to broil those socks and use a steak knife, I do wonder what seasoning goes well with socks. Sriracha Sauce! DU! Goes with EVERYTHING!
Isnt that franks red hot?
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On September 30 2010 17:48 dogabutila wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 06:06 Yellow-Snow wrote:On September 29 2010 06:01 NoobSkills wrote:On September 29 2010 03:58 Chill wrote:While this challenge was amazing and entertaining with the stakes, I am waiting for this: On September 28 2010 01:46 clitvin wrote:
And if any zerg out there exists that can come and smash my terran practice partner more then 50% of the time I will litteraly eat my socks and post it on youtube. Because I honestly belive its not possible. He will have to obviously have to broil those socks and use a steak knife, I do wonder what seasoning goes well with socks. Sriracha Sauce! DU! Goes with EVERYTHING! Isnt that franks red hot?
I put that shit on everything
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On September 30 2010 13:31 nuwo wrote:Ugh, I would have loved to do this challenge but I am 1250 diamond zerg and therefore could not do it .
Great use of first post ><
Like anyone cares if you're a 1250 diamon Z
User was warned for this post
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After watching the replays, I think the challenge is quite easy for me.
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where can I find these replays?
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On September 29 2010 09:18 TT1 wrote:
so would it possible for me to play this weekend?: D
Even tho the challange is over we'd love to have you play . I'll be in vegas over the weeked but maybe over the next week?
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Have you figured out some sort of funding?
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On September 30 2010 23:48 Mystix wrote:
Have you figured out some sort of funding?
Not sure. Any suggestions? I kinda want to run it off donations and how much we get that week the winner gets? Someone throw down some ideas
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Anyone recommend the better games to watch? I missed the stream and don't wanna watch all 10 of the games, but I'd like to see some good ones.
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On October 01 2010 07:30 Yellow-Snow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2010 23:48 Mystix wrote:
Have you figured out some sort of funding? Not sure. Any suggestions? I kinda want to run it off donations and how much we get that week the winner gets? Someone throw down some ideas
Why not let Warlock set up some paypal account for donations since he's already put down $200 - he seems to be trustworthy enough. I wouldn't go with putting the whole pool towards each week. Maybe cap it at some upper limit so we can sustain this for multiple weeks using the extra money to a later week with less donations.
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I think you should make each challenge 50$, I think that is enough to attract top tier players.
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In addition, for anybody who donates 5$ or more, give them spectators seats instead of making them stream.
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On October 01 2010 15:31 aztrorisk wrote:
In addition, for anybody who donates 5$ or more, give them spectators seats instead of making them stream.
Somehow I see this being a bit.. problematic.
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im sorry but if i was around for this challenge id make a deal with the terran for him to throw a few games and then we split the prize 50/50
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