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On September 28 2010 13:59 Vz0 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:46 Domonic wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote:
The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. Haha that's a fucking joke. offtopic, bashing, not contributing to this thread whatsoever. If you go a different idea, say it. Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:52 ZlaSHeR wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote:
The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. I don't think anyone will ban you for having your opinion, but it's ignorant and foolish to assume that just because someone has a 2 month headstart means they will always be the best, especially when these guys practice 12 hours a day, are significantly smarter, faster, more efficient, and have game sense on a level that idra will not be able to compete with. Once these ex BW A teamers/bonjwas get past the "learning" part of the game and start getting to the point where they know and scout build orders and react, they will be significantly ahead of the others. Meaning I give them ~2 months and they'll be at the top, if not much much sooner. 1.) how is it ignorant? What knowledge and I missing in making this assumption? 2.) how is it foolish? We've seen tester play, we've seen idra player, we've seen cool player. have we seen boxer/oov play sc2? Nope If anybody heres ignorant it is you. "significan'ty smarter, faster, more efficient, game sense". I just ultra lols here. How bias and fanboyed can you be to believe that BoXer is smarter than Tester. YOU HAVE NO PROOF of that. You know that boxer was better at starcraft broodwar. Just because he was good at broodwar that means hes smarter? What lol? Stephen Hawkings vs NaDa anyone? Faster? Proof? Tester is playing 300apm. That fast enough for you? More efficient? Lol as far as we've seen, Tester has held off 2 of the most devasting cheeses by doing the perfect moves and the perfect time. What have we seen of boxer and oov in sc2? Nothing. right. Shut up and don't bash please? Am I here bashing Boxer and OoV fanboys ? No. I clearly said that next year we will really see these people shine. Tester has been playing starcraft 2 since march/april ish.
He obviously meant Boxer has smarter play.
Tester and Boxer given same situation (a unplanned one) Boxer would react my calmly manner and will make better decisions. Why? Because he's is/was the black sheep out of 100 sheep. There are a lot of BW players who have worked 12 hrs a day to become the best player, sadly depite the 'Effort' (see what I did there) they will never become bonjwas and most of them, even they practice 15 hrs a day, will remain B players. They may or may not have the talent but by chance, by pure chance a person just has more talent (smarter) when playing SC and born to be one (assuming they both put in the same effort).
You may think no one is born to be good at SC, because that's rediculous! But 'by chance' someone has better at multitasking, are good at making quick decisions and has overall understanding of the flow of any situation. These are the attributes that makes a good SC player and a person could be born to be good at these things and could improve further with effort or even learn/attain these attributes faster than others. Smart, in terms of SC or any RTS Genre, yes Boxer is undoubtably 'smarter'. Though like other definitions of smart, if you don't put effort into it, being smart does absolutely nothing.
That being said, I agree with the fact they will not start owning everyone right away. It takes dedication and time to become a good player, talent or no talent.
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On September 28 2010 13:59 Vz0 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:46 Domonic wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote:
The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. Haha that's a fucking joke. offtopic, bashing, not contributing to this thread whatsoever. If you go a different idea, say it. Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 13:52 ZlaSHeR wrote:On September 28 2010 06:10 Vz0 wrote:
The strongest SC2 Players until next year WILL and ALWAYS WILL be Tester Idra Cool (well maybe ITR and CLIDE)
They just have such a margain above everyone else. Nada julyzerg boxer iloveoove wouldn't even come close to these guys anytime soon.
Again this is my personal opinion do not bann me thank you very much. I don't think anyone will ban you for having your opinion, but it's ignorant and foolish to assume that just because someone has a 2 month headstart means they will always be the best, especially when these guys practice 12 hours a day, are significantly smarter, faster, more efficient, and have game sense on a level that idra will not be able to compete with. Once these ex BW A teamers/bonjwas get past the "learning" part of the game and start getting to the point where they know and scout build orders and react, they will be significantly ahead of the others. Meaning I give them ~2 months and they'll be at the top, if not much much sooner. 1.) how is it ignorant? What knowledge and I missing in making this assumption? 2.) how is it foolish? We've seen tester play, we've seen idra player, we've seen cool player. have we seen boxer/oov play sc2? Nope If anybody heres ignorant it is you. "significan'ty smarter, faster, more efficient, game sense". I just ultra lols here. How bias and fanboyed can you be to believe that BoXer is smarter than Tester. YOU HAVE NO PROOF of that. You know that boxer was better at starcraft broodwar. Just because he was good at broodwar that means hes smarter? What lol? Stephen Hawkings vs NaDa anyone? Faster? Proof? Tester is playing 300apm. That fast enough for you? More efficient? Lol as far as we've seen, Tester has held off 2 of the most devasting cheeses by doing the perfect moves and the perfect time. What have we seen of boxer and oov in sc2? Nothing. right. Shut up and don't bash please? Am I here bashing Boxer and OoV fanboys ? No. I clearly said that next year we will really see these people shine. Tester has been playing starcraft 2 since march/april ish.
I don't get how obvious trolls like this can go unbanned and certain other posts people get instantly banned for.
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WEInfi gunna play? theres some replays of him playing against a bunch of people i haven't heard of on sc2rep.com. He seems to be playing terran. I wonder how hes gunna win without towers
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On September 28 2010 16:44 Sandbox wrote:
WEInfi gunna play? theres some replays of him playing against a bunch of people i haven't heard of on sc2rep.com. He seems to be playing terran. I wonder how hes gunna win without towers
Make more bunkers.
Equivalent of towers eh :D
Clearly he'll probably be bunkering up a lot on opponents or cheesing them with bunker rushes.
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On September 28 2010 16:47 shannn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 28 2010 16:44 Sandbox wrote:
WEInfi gunna play? theres some replays of him playing against a bunch of people i haven't heard of on sc2rep.com. He seems to be playing terran. I wonder how hes gunna win without towers Make more bunkers. Equivalent of towers eh :D Clearly he'll probably be bunkering up a lot on opponents or cheesing them with bunker rushes.
Lol but they are not as OP as towers were in warcraft 3. you gotta make units. even if they are free. i guess that would be good for infi haha
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boxer and iloveoov are both involved in SK management right? So they can't play SC2 professionally due to KeSPA?
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On September 28 2010 20:00 koOma wrote:
boxer and iloveoov are both involved in SK management right? So they can't play SC2 professionally due to KeSPA?
According to the old thread in the BW forums boxer's contract expired this summer and he decided to reject all offers for bw. So yeah, we might see him play on tv again. *geek chills*
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On September 28 2010 20:08 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:00 koOma wrote:
boxer and iloveoov are both involved in SK management right? So they can't play SC2 professionally due to KeSPA? According to the old thread in the BW forums boxer's contract expired this summer and he decided to reject all offers for bw. So yeah, we might see him play on tv again. *geek chills*
Sounds like Nada
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I seriously want to see Oov macro in sc2. that will be insane :O
Really hope to see lots of BW pro to play in next GSL.
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I'm hoping for Flash to bring his ultimate skillz to Terran in SC2.
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This is terribly ironic.
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Oh my god. These are the best news. Without Korea progaming scene SC2 will never be as popular as BW was. Just do the count; they can practice 15 hours a day; a normal EU/US player will not because he has no contract and basically hes a bountyhunter in tourneys; so he will never be as good as the Korean progammers.
In my opinion Korean BW progammers are reticent to give SC2 a pro try because they dont see a lot of depth in the game. Time ago, i saw an interview with SKT1 Telecom Headcoach and he said that the game seemed to him very simple. I dont think it is a matter of time to see that "depth" because the e.sport culture learns faster than 11 years ago. I Think SC2 is a 2010 game, cant be that "hard" or less economical atractive. They need to earn money; so if they'd made a super hard pro e-sport game less people would have played and less interest'd had generate.
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On September 29 2010 09:04 flowandebb wrote:This is terribly ironic.
lol xD
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On September 29 2010 09:04 flowandebb wrote:This is terribly ironic.
lolz n1 :D
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On September 29 2010 09:04 flowandebb wrote:This is terribly ironic.
That's just epic
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Bumpin.
From Milkis's twitter:
Some rumors: CJ and Hite are merging teams -- iloveoov and Reach (especially the latter) may move on to SC2. Just the word on the street.
Source: http://twitter.com/#!/SC_OddsAndEnds
Might deserve own thread though. 
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On October 12 2010 06:44 Grettin wrote:Bumpin. From Milkis's twitter: Show nested quote +Some rumors: CJ and Hite are merging teams -- iloveoov and Reach (especially the latter) may move on to SC2. Just the word on the street. Source: http://twitter.com/#!/SC_OddsAndEndsMight deserve own thread though.
Reach? omg fuck yeah!!!
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On October 12 2010 06:44 Grettin wrote:Bumpin. From Milkis's twitter: Show nested quote +Some rumors: CJ and Hite are merging teams -- iloveoov and Reach (especially the latter) may move on to SC2. Just the word on the street. Source: http://twitter.com/#!/SC_OddsAndEndsMight deserve own thread though.
hope its alright i created a thread for that :o
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