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I was playing a random 2v2 in Plat and my opponent went for a zealot rush.. sure this is a good strat, but was his only plan for the whole 35-minute game -_-
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I think one of the biggest thing new players need to learn is that if your first attack with T1 units doesn't outright win you the game, or put you at a *significant* advantage, you need to tech and expand.
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I once played slightly worse than my teammate was expecting.
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3v3, dont remember the map. Terran allie lifted off his cc and planted it in between his main and natural. scv's were gathering from both sets of minerals and taking ages to travel back and forth. I asked him what the hell he was doing, but I guess he was too stupid to even know how to reply.
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On August 26 2010 22:31 Jaso wrote: I was playing a random 2v2 in Plat and my opponent went for a zealot rush.. sure this is a good strat, but was his only plan for the whole 35-minute game -_-
This happens all the time to me. Someone will go mass marine which i guess is ok for an opener, but for the next hour he will build nothing but marines from 4 raxes...
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<Join 2v2 as Z> <See T ally> "Plan?" "Mass BCs" <Quit>
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Well, on a rap which I don't remember the name, I was in a 2v2 with a random alli (i'm diamond in 2v2 random so I hope to also get a diamond ally). I play random, he his P and we cant see that our opponent are ZZ.
I spawn T so i'm like, shit I need rine ASAP + possibly a buker to survive Z ling/roach rush. By the time I setup y base, I see my ally chilling and going forge + pylon in front of oru base with going fast expand 
raped incoming.
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Ally got medivac dropped on Tempest (?). I went to help with my army, but he wouldn't let me into his base. Ended up killing his depo to get in, but was only able to clear up the army after he lost most of his stuff.
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So I was playing with FuriousJodo, Kraken, and ryanrushia a little while ago. We were drinking. We decided to use mineral only builds. I made 15 proxy Barrackses. We went 8-4 that session.
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My friend got teamed up with a guy in 3's who wrote:
"Good game this!" "Yeah, sure... Perhaps you should start mining?" "Ok, first time playing " At this point he lifted his CC and stood still. My friend replied: "Perhaps you should try doing some campaign or play vs computers before entering multiplayer just to learn the basics" "Ok!" *** has left the game.
* Edited for truth.
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Usually my ally drops or dies to first rush which leaves me to 1v2 every game which tbh is much easier anyway.
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On August 26 2010 22:48 mortar wrote:My friend got teamed up with a guy in 3's who wrote: "Good game this!" "Yeah, sure... Perhaps you should stop mining?" "Ok, first time playing  " At this point he lifted his CC and stood still. My friend replied: "Perhaps you should try doing some campaign or play vs computers before entering multiplayer just to learn the basics" "Ok!" *** has left the game. Why would you ask someone to stop mining in your own team...?
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On August 26 2010 22:35 Azile wrote: <Join 2v2 as Z> <See T ally> "Plan?" "Mass BCs" <Quit>
lol gg
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I see a lot of colossus rushing from my allies... No zeals, no stalkers, no sentries, no cannons... Just colossus.
I usually fast expand since if we're rushed or cheesed we're pretty fucked over regardless since he wont have his first colossus out yet.
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yeh i hate the allies who yell help but have supply depots blocking the ramp and they dont put themd own..... Also one last night who went 7 pool, and would of done serious damage to the terran who was going maruder or even deeper tech? Anyway he went in with his 6 lings and no units to greet him but scv's, as he didnt see an army other then scv's he decided to go tothe toss isntead to fight an "army" isntead of just staying and killing the scv's well by the time he got to the toss who had 2 zealots easily mopping the lings up...he then called me a noob and left.That was in diamond league too.. lol Also got to put the games where ive lost to reaper and then gone as terran which im alright with early game but late game I just plain suck so yeh for all my allies whos played with me as terran late game sorry
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In a 3v3 i played i randomed and got P, my two allies also P but that's not really important one guy gets rushed and pretty much killed, my second ally sends like two zealots that also gets killed and he immediately leaves. I get alot of money cause this guy is still mining so i mass up gateways and kill their attacking army, counter and after a pretty long game 1v3 i eventually come out on top. I had over 100 kills probably more, my allies had a total of 1 kill combined
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I'm usually the only person on my team that bothers to scout at all. I'm also the only person on my team that ussually responds to a proxy attack by actually modifing their strat.
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Don't think that AT is always better than RT.
I never play RT, but I'm going to contribute. My friend got cannon rushed. The guy who cannoned was obviously not good because the cannon couldn't defend the pylon. So my friend who is a T who had 3 marines at the time could easily snipe the pylon. He goes and attacks the cannon. Then calls me a noob for teching and rage quits.
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One time my ally pinged a new expo on the map, and I figured he was letting me know where the enemy player was expanding, so I just 1a2a the pinged nexus, and tore it to the ground just to see him screaming through chat that it was his nexus that I was destroying. It was a bit embarrassing. But we won. So yeah. Don't ping your own expansions.
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I guess he meant to say start mining
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I just played my worse 4v4. 3 terrans. non got OC, when I told them they were going air one guy said 'i'll make tanks'
but that's nothing.
when 1 Terran got attacked by 5 void rays, his army of about 50 marines stood about 10 foot away did nothing.. at all..forever. ever. he just let them kill his base whilst he spoke to his friend about how cool tosh is.
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One player disconnected right at the beginning. Then my other 2 teammates left. So thus, 1v4... I held my own for a decent amount of time with a huge income of minerals from my once allies, and massed marines because they are cheap. My opponents complimented me on the good game afterward
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was doing a random 3v3 and one of my allies got cannon rushed. he started freaking out in chat in all caps, sent all of his probes at the cannons, they all died and he left the game.
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Stories like this... Are why I quit playing random team games back when I first started StarCraft II.
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So I was in a team with a terran.
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In almost all the games that I have lost, my ally techs for VRs/get the "build 20 cannons in my base" achievement.
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On August 26 2010 23:03 Wolf wrote: Stories like this... Are why I quit playing random team games back when I first started StarCraft II. Same here... I mean the random guys playing in BW aren't really that good either, but I never really found a single DECENT player in SC2 in my ~200 team games.
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A normal story. One player is Z, one is P. They scout that the enemy is going to rush. The P builds mass cannons, the Z dies. Game lost.
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Getting paired with bronze players when I am in diamond....................
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Double zerg on their team. Ofc, after having done countless zvz I do what I do best, and they aren't going to like it very much...
![[image loading]](http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4844/screenshot2010082610090.jpg)
Two banelings for 20 zerglings, I will take that...
![[image loading]](http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1030/screenshot2010082610092.jpg)
I moved my sole surviving baneling up and to my surprise I saw....
![[image loading]](http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3078/screenshot2010082610100.jpg) he manner crawlered himself?
So the game transitioned into midgame, and one of my allies is in deep trouble with mutas in the back...
![[image loading]](http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5045/screenshot2010082609563.jpg) ...and thors up front!
![[image loading]](http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6585/screenshot2010082609564.jpg)
being a helpful ally, I stopped my harassment and immediately rushed to his defense:
![[image loading]](http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8482/screenshot2010082609583.jpg) "What I learned from waking up to watch IEM" (part 1)
We won the fight but he GGs prematurely.... its not like he lost anything beside 2 barracks and a factory...
![[image loading]](http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/2917/screenshot2010082609590.jpg)
Enemy finally realized that I have been killing all his drones with mutas so he does what he do best:
![[image loading]](http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7783/screenshot2010082610004.jpg)
Thank you TL for teaching me this:
![[image loading]](http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6919/screenshot2010082610023.jpg)
Meanwhile my ally went ahead and attacked.... the guy with nothing but towers (and 1 of every building). Somehow he let the spines poke his stalkers to death (must get into a good position?).
![[image loading]](http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/6526/screenshot2010082610041.jpg)
After yellow somehow fend off that attack with his top diamond level tower defense skills, he figured he mined out his main, so he expanded right here... -.-
![[image loading]](http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7451/screenshot2010082610053.jpg)
ofc the game was won, but.... le sigh...
![[image loading]](http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2815/doublefacepalmk.jpg)
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Back in beta, I did lot's of custom 3s on Arakan Citadel, I'm zerg, so I'm happily spreading my creep tumors around the map. So one of my allies ask wtf I'm doing, I tell him spreading creep. Btw, he was toss, didn't have any ground units, but was straight teching to mass VoidRay's I guess. So, the opponent push comes very early, I have some lings and roaches. And my Toss ally blames me for losing because of the creep. Not realizing without it we wouldn't even have seen the attack coming.
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no he was right. because of the creep the enemies knew where to find and kill you. without it your ally surely had gotten his vrs out.
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2v2 Random:
Best build order ever: 6Refinery, 6Refinery, 6Rax.
I ragequit after I finished scouting, because my opponents both had reasonable build orders.
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My mate sent me a replay from his gold-level games, 1v1. The other guy builds:
10 assimilator 10 assimilator 10 pylon 11 pylon 11 pylon 14 gateway 14 gateway
in all that time he didnt put a single worker on one of his 2 fancy assimilators.
fun fact: + Show Spoiler +my mate lost that game >.<
guess it's not a teamgame but i had to share it anyways =)
SB
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On August 26 2010 22:53 sikyon wrote: I'm usually the only person on my team that bothers to scout at all. I'm also the only person on my team that ussually responds to a proxy attack by actually modifing their strat. yeah, scouting seems to be an unknown strat for most of the low-level players even against plat 1v1 players I dont get scouted most of the time
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On August 27 2010 00:09 SexyBimbo wrote:My mate sent me a replay from his gold-level games, 1v1. The other guy builds: 10 assimilator 10 assimilator 10 pylon 11 pylon 11 pylon 14 gateway 14 gateway in all that time he didnt put a single worker on one of his 2 fancy assimilators. fun fact: + Show Spoiler +my mate lost that game >.< guess it's not a teamgame but i had to share it anyways =) SB
This reminds me of one of my very early placements where someone complained they arent getting gas even though he have the auto-gas refinery tech from hyperion....
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Played against 2xZ+T. I suspect reapers due to the early gas and ppl prob dont go for fast factory in high plat. So...
6 kills here:
![[image loading]](http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7206/screenshot2010082612252.jpg) 9 kills here:
![[image loading]](http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9124/screenshot2010082612260.jpg)
I thought I was doing pretty good but then... Uhoh... attack inc:
![[image loading]](http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1424/screenshot2010082612270.jpg)
I checked my allies:
![[image loading]](http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8195/screenshot2010082612275.jpg)
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Every single player that tells me they're going for some all-in cheese in random 2v2 and ask me to 10 pool or something.: / Oh, and that guy in a 4v4 placement match who told the team he was teching to VRs but made his first VR around 20 minutes into the game while somehow having no units, cannons or expands before this: /
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On August 27 2010 01:47 Ineluctable wrote: Every single player that tells me they're going for some all-in cheese in random 2v2 and ask me to 10 pool or something.: /
At least they are doing something. Rushing in 2v2 is very deadly if you have "some" map control (xelnaga) and when they are on separate bases. You can easily overpower someone in a 2v1 early game until ally arrives/if the defender is reckless/his ally refuse to help/any of them go for fast expo or tech.
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As you will see, having lots of Workers doens't mean being a good player. I proudly present:
![[image loading]](http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6441/screenshot2010080521300.jpg) 16 Probes on each Gas...
![[image loading]](http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7158/screenshot2010080521314.jpg) ...and well thought Expansion-Placement to secure high amounts of Gas. This was not misrallyed,but intentional of him.
Damn, I miss Bronze 4v4s ;(
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Terran players. They manage to not build marines and let our team die to air. They manage to not use scans and let our team die to cloaked units. They manage to lift off and go for the gold and then die to zealots...
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This stories with the pictures are the best. I've yet to do any team games, but now I feel like I should just so I can have a story to post here.
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LOL if i were you I would kill his nexus I do that to allies if they steal my expo after I spend the time destroying rocks =/
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On August 27 2010 01:55 Hikari wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 01:47 Ineluctable wrote: Every single player that tells me they're going for some all-in cheese in random 2v2 and ask me to 10 pool or something.: / At least they are doing something. Rushing in 2v2 is very deadly if you have "some" map control (xelnaga) and when they are on separate bases. You can easily overpower someone in a 2v1 early game until ally arrives/if the defender is reckless/his ally refuse to help/any of them go for fast expo or tech.
Very true, but we're not talking about a 2 player push/rush here but usually a proxy reapers into cloaked banshee type thing or 6 pool(rarely works in 2v2 when 1 person is doing it). Very rarely works in higher league 2v2, esp vs AT people.
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I once had a partner who told me he was gonna proxy 2 gate. I told him it was np. It was one of those maps where both players share one choke to their main. I didn't pay attention to my minimap for a few mins then I noticed that he had proceeded to place his pylon and gates ON the choke (like where Terran usually places their depot+rax walls). After the opponents ganged up on his gates and I was too far away to help:
Partner: Sorry they found me  Me: Yeah, I wonder why -_-
During the beta in platinum 2v2 (not that it matters apparently) I got a protoss partner on Twilight Fortress (for those who don't remember or don't know: 2 mains and 2 nats in one large main for both players). He started teching to carriers with only 1 gate and a bunch of cannons and 1 base. For the full game I was urging him to either expand or build units instead of canons.
Partner: If I expand without making enough canons, I won't have enough defense.
Later in the game after the opponents took half the map with me unable to do anything, they managed to max out and killed me before my partner.
Partner: See? Not enough defense. Me: ...
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I was playing a random 4v4 for fun, so I have 2 toss and a terran as teammates (I'm playing Protoss) and they urge me to wall off with them at these 2 chokes in the middle of the map. I told them that it wasn't my style but they kept pestering me so I did. Once the the chokes were walled off they started to pinpoint location on the map of where I should put up cannons and I just laughed that off and proceeded to do my thing. Later I see my mates with about ~5 real units each with cannons everywhere while I spent my money on something useful like an army. So the opponents attack with zealots, marines, zerglings and some Dark Templars sneaking in. So my two toss mates have no observers out or a robotics bay for that matter and the Terran player REFUSES to scan and just makes uses it on MULES and SUPPLY DROPS so they eventually die but their cannons did pick up those templar but by then it was just overrun by the other units. I finally get overrun by 4 players and my mates blame me for not making cannons.
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all my games where my terran allies continue to go reapers even after i scouted stalkers roaches etc
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Getting zerg team mates... because you know they are going to rush on huge maps with shared chokes.
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On August 26 2010 22:35 Azile wrote: <Join 2v2 as Z> <See T ally> "Plan?" "Mass BCs" <Quit> I saw this too today
without revealing his plans at the start of the game a terran went into the good old "I dont need any T1/T2 units into mass BC build" during a random 3v3
we lost btw
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On August 27 2010 03:13 xJaCEx wrote: Getting zerg team mates... because you know they are going to rush on huge maps with shared chokes.
Actually race doesn't matter that much. In team matches, whenever I read "rush?" I say either 'No.' or 'noob...' or something to that extent. Usually it turns out they don't know anything else but rush builds... and even then they don't know how to handle them properly. I'm also very familiar with the 'being the only one who scouts' thing. Though at times I will command others to scout. ;D Not that their scouting workers survived very long...
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So we're ZZ against ZT. He said lets rush, I said I'll 8pool, and also help put some spines in their base.
We get there, the enemy is decent. They are defending with queen/lings/drones. Meanwhile I put a spine in his base. I lose all my lings but the spine is like half way done. Partner kills enemy lings and queen, and has 4 lings left. And he starts attacking my spine which was 75% done!! And he kills it before I can type "wtf are you doing!"
Terran comes with 2 marines and a marauder and kills his lings. My partner keeps rallying 2 lings at a time to their base and never builds up an economy. As soon I see banshees come out, I leave the game.
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On August 26 2010 22:54 Odoakar wrote: One time my ally pinged a new expo on the map, and I figured he was letting me know where the enemy player was expanding, so I just 1a2a the pinged nexus, and tore it to the ground just to see him screaming through chat that it was his nexus that I was destroying. It was a bit embarrassing. But we won. So yeah. Don't ping your own expansions. ROFL!!!! If I was the one that pinged I would have still laughed my ass off at it!
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I was once teamed with a guy who tried to rush Vikings against 2 Protoss who were both going 4-gate.
yeah....
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sends probes at opponents nexus/quits thanks
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So i was playing a 2v2, my opponents were max'ed, i was maxed, my teammate had 20 probes, every tech structure but not 1 single fighting unit
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we are facing double z, my ally scouts early so I figure, great, he knows what he is doing, he scouts a 9 pool from both players, he goes to second player, double gas steals, pings the gas steal to make sure i notice how retarded he is then goes for cannon rush. I killed his nexus and left.
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During a 4v4 we managed to get quite a lead after the first push. I noticed that one of my teammates had double-expanded, thus depriving me of my expansion. I told him to cancel (he was Z) the hatchery or I would take it down personally. He didn't say a word, so I killed that hatchery. He went on to kill my main, after which I erased every building and army unit he had. Meanwhile our opponents probably wondered what caused the "x has not rebuilt their base and is being revealed - x has rebuilt their base.." messages when they were not even attacking. Anyway, after that guy was taken care of, we went on to kill more of our opponents, when another teammate of mine started attacking my bases as well. He had previously commented on the first guy's actions with "Next time don't double-expand, idiot <name>" so I thought the case was closed. Nope, he didn't stop and even started targeting my units as well. As he was unwilling to stop that, I rallied all my units in his base and killed everything in it. I don't quite remember what caused it, but the last remaining opponent quit the game shortly after - since even with the stupid quarrels, we were still too far ahead. The most retarded game I ever played. The one who didn't cancel his hatchery said "Next time I see you I will kill your main directly". As luck would have it, we met again a couple of days later, on different teams though. When we marched into their bases (High Ground), I greeted him kindly. Lesson learned: Don't get too greedy, depriving your teammates of income.
If Terran players refuse to give me control when I need it to lower/raise the depots, I just kill those depots, too. After countless times of pinging and talking and shouting, this has proven to be the quickest route to free travel for my units.
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2v2 TP vs TP.
Scouted and saw standard 4 gate and bio build....
I counter with my 4 gate (knowing I could easily out play the other toss)....and my partner goes fast thor (seriously...wtf?).
...They attack and my partner has......1 Thor. wow.
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I make around 5 reapers and poke in TTT vs PZZ to enforce stalkers,spines and roaches. During that I tell my teamnates to build marauders x marines. After loosing 5 reapers and destroying one queen I have around nine Marauders. And I see two blobs of mass marines from my partners. We were playing AT,sitting together on TS3. PS.I know it was an AT,but the funny part is when my friends behave like randoms
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Trying to get 4v4 Diamond random has been a nightmare.
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I have two great stories. Of course Im not the greatest player...actually Im in gold division in 1v1 cuz I just cant keep my self interested enough to keep doin the same strat which is to stop the opponents all-ins. I want some diversity so I go and play a couple 2v2 3v3 matches.
Ok now for the stories. First one (PPvTT), Im a zerg player and I decided to play off race and b protoss. I had a protoss ally and right in the beginning I told him I was massing phoenix and told him to mass zealots with charge or go immortals or collosi cuz I would have the air control. He told me I was stupid that phoenix suck but I knew this plan would work. K, now I have 15 phoenix and look at my ally's base and he has 5 stalkers....and he calls me stupid.haha. I told him to make zealots to conquer the ground force and he kept complaining that he would lose to tanks...which of course I had so much phoenix's that I could just pick all the tanks up. So I went and killed all the scvs at one t base to get an advantage and when I came back my teammate started moving out with 7 stalkers...I did tell him to stop and he kept sayn we already lost. Of course he walked straight up to the t front door and lost all his 7 stalkers to tanks. He then sends a msg to everyone that I was stupid and went mass phoenix then he quits. I stopped makn phoenix and went for charge-lots and won.haha.
Second story, (ZZvTP) ok so I told my teammate I was massing lings and b-lings. He said ok so I figured he would mass mutas or hydras...I mean its just common sense to get what ur teammate cant. I didnt care whether he went mass hydra or mass muta as long as he could take care of any air play. I get 200/200 zerglings and start sending my teammate money cuz I was just stock piling. I never went to look at his base then asked if he was ready to attack and when he pulled his forces from his base it was mass roach. I just shook my head and prayed that the enemy went for ground only. We happen to meet the opponents in the center and they massed bc's, voidrays, carriers, banshees, with 3 thors as the only ground army. That was the biggest face palm of my life.haha.
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On August 27 2010 06:34 ETHANOL wrote: we are facing double z, my ally scouts early so I figure, great, he knows what he is doing, he scouts a 9 pool from both players, he goes to second player, double gas steals, pings the gas steal to make sure i notice how retarded he is then goes for cannon rush. I killed his nexus and left.
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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So I was in a team with a terran.
HAHAHAHA n1
I always lose whenever a random person on my team leaves after the game starts n tht causes a chain reaction of my teammates leavin.....
on a sidenote... Hikari how did u get 3860 achievement points o.0
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On August 28 2010 22:34 Hikari wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This morning after the tragic loss of JD in the MSL =(, I decided to steam out in random 3s to redeem the glory of the brood.
Really man? Thanks for the spoiler.
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On August 28 2010 23:48 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:34 Hikari wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This morning after the tragic loss of JD in the MSL =(, I decided to steam out in random 3s to redeem the glory of the brood. Really man? Thanks for the spoiler.
Yeah, this. God damn it :/
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Little off topic... How do you get that zoom?
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On the bright side, was playing a 3v3 and my allies left just in the start after 1 of them disced. Anyways, with the extra income i made a really fast 3 rax reaper rush into mass marines. My oppentents, figuring my allies left made alot of t1 units like zealots, zergs and marines to end the game quickly. As u might know reapers own t1 units so i ended up killing 2 mains after about 10 mins. The terran in my opponent team floated his main to an island. From there on i pretty much expanded all over the map and made vikings and bcs. I ended up winning the game and taunting the hell out of them after losing 3v1.
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I ended up with one in a 4v4 where all 3 of my allies cannon rushed. The only problem: They decided to cannon rush the unoccupied Gold expo >_>
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PZ v TT, game goes very late. I've transitioned into mass Carrier, and I've scouted mass thor. I tell my ally to just spam a bunch of lings. He makes about 30 lings, sends them out before they reach our base, loses them all instantly. Then he sends in a dozen hydra, again outside our base. He then wonders why he has no units.
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Just found this thread while googling, was looking for other frustrated players in the 2v2 rack an how their handling really really bad random partners you get, and found this. I just got done play 3 random 2v2 team games as zerg.
My first partner was protoss, vs double protoss an he was like "I'm going cannons, an then voids into carriers!" Hearing this I internally face palm, that, that is the worst possible strategy to open up with. An true to his word he cannons up his choke and prepares to do a 1 base void/carrier strategy while I'm faced with two protoss players about to destroy me, that game is quickly over with the first rush from my opponents.
Next one I get is a Terran player vs T,P. This guy right off the bat wants me to rush, dictating what I do. I just tell him to relax, I know how to play my race and made the right move not to rush because when I was scouting I saw the protoss player was getting 2 gate so I needed to get Roaches into hydra. Apparently he didn't like when I told him to relax, because when both players came to attack, he refused to help, saying "Going to tell me to relax again?!" At this point I lose my cool on this guy. An get bad mannered.
The third was ZZvPT While this guy wasnt as bad as the other two, he was definitely very new to playing zerg, an wanted to double 6 pool off the bat. This one I also end up losing
So three games in a row I get terrible terrible, partners in random team. I'm in platinum 2v2 random team an I don't think I'm ever going to continue 2v2 random team as the people I random have apparently mental issues and have just opened up the box and want to make the uber unit that dies in 5 seconds. I'm sticking to 1v1
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weird I dont know why i double posted...
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I just experienced something I never thought could/would happen. It was a 4on4 random Diamond game on Megaton. I was zerg spawned south and I took one of the expo's on the bottom after 5-6 minutes.
When the second hatchery was finished one my protoss allies starts complaining I took his expo, and instead of taking one of the remaining expo's he destroyed my hatchery and crawlers.....
Obviously I left immediately,,
I looked later at his stats and he was diamond 1on1
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