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Can players at live tournaments hear casters?

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wuddersup
Profile Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
August 24 2010 17:41 GMT
#1
For example, at the IEM final the casters were interacting with the crowd and vice-versa. This coupled with the fact that players are in the same room as the crowd would seem to suggest that the players should also be able to hear them. Am I missing something? I'm aware they wear headphones, but surely they don't block out all incoming sound? And even if they did, couldn't a player just loosen them a bit? Or am I being even stupider than I think?
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 24 2010 17:42 GMT
#2
This was addressed in one of the interviews, I think DjWheat's of MorroW. He said unless you turned off all the sounds and concentrated you couldn't hear the casters.
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Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
August 24 2010 17:43 GMT
#3
At some of the KR tournaments, I've seen that each player has a "spotter" - often a cute girl - who stands behind and watches him play. Probably watching to make sure his headphones stay on and he isn't doing anything suspicious during the game?
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alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
August 24 2010 17:44 GMT
#4
Those headphones were so huge because they included soundproofing. I've worn sound protective earphones like that before when doing some loud work at a job and I would expect that they do just fine keeping the players from hearing the casters.
I am a tournament organizazer.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
August 24 2010 17:45 GMT
#5
On August 25 2010 02:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Those headphones were so huge because they included soundproofing. I've worn sound protective earphones like that before when doing some loud work at a job and I would expect that they do just fine keeping the players from hearing the casters.


this would be accurate.
vanskater
Profile Joined March 2010
United States146 Posts
August 24 2010 17:46 GMT
#6
the headphones that you saw at iem are the same noise cancleing phones that the people on the airport runways ware.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 24 2010 17:49 GMT
#7
I've also heard of tournaments that use in-airs for the sound combined with over-ear protective soundproofing headgear. You basically can't hear the casters in that situations, or loosen your headphones without being noticed.

I believe that's how we're doing it at i40.
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bjwithbraces
Profile Joined April 2010
United States549 Posts
August 24 2010 17:52 GMT
#8
On August 25 2010 02:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I've also heard of tournaments that use in-airs for the sound combined with over-ear protective soundproofing headgear. You basically can't hear the casters in that situations, or loosen your headphones without being noticed.

I believe that's how we're doing it at i40.


this is the most common setup I've seen, at least watching BW.
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wuddersup
Profile Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
August 24 2010 17:53 GMT
#9
I see, thanks. I feel like you would still hear SOMETHING if the game wasn't outputting any noise at one point, or at least you could see or hear audience reactions if something crazy or cheesy is going on.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 24 2010 17:55 GMT
#10
On August 25 2010 02:52 bjwithbraces wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 02:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I've also heard of tournaments that use in-airs for the sound combined with over-ear protective soundproofing headgear. You basically can't hear the casters in that situations, or loosen your headphones without being noticed.

I believe that's how we're doing it at i40.


this is the most common setup I've seen, at least watching BW.


Yeah in ear headphone+sound blockers+soundproof booth.
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Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
August 24 2010 17:55 GMT
#11
Some player said he could hear the comentators talk but it was absolutely impossible to understand what they say.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
August 24 2010 18:35 GMT
#12
If they face the crowd, they may be able to read from their reaction if the opponent is doing something exciting like a drop.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
August 24 2010 18:44 GMT
#13
It'll be interesting to see how MLG does it since players are required to bring their own headsets
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 24 2010 18:45 GMT
#14
On August 25 2010 03:44 Backpack wrote:
It'll be interesting to see how MLG does it since players are required to bring their own headsets


Booths are the best option, or having players in a separate room to ensure fair play imo.
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DuneBug
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
August 24 2010 18:49 GMT
#15
It seems like you'd want them to be able to hear the crowd reactions to really awesome play... But at the same time that might give something away.

I guess the players probably don't care? I'd be interested to hear their opinion. Maybe they can hear the crowd reactions through the headphones faintly anyway.
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Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
August 24 2010 18:53 GMT
#16
the sound system at the iem was positioned so that you couldnt hear anything while actually standing onstage, you can see in some interviews that questions are not understood because of this. it wasnt an issue at all.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 24 2010 18:53 GMT
#17
On August 25 2010 03:49 DuneBug wrote:
It seems like you'd want them to be able to hear the crowd reactions to really awesome play... But at the same time that might give something away.

I guess the players probably don't care? I'd be interested to hear their opinion. Maybe they can hear the crowd reactions through the headphones faintly anyway.


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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
August 24 2010 19:00 GMT
#18
Yeah I was kinda wondering the same thing... they never had any reaction to the crowd so I'm guessing it really isn't much of an issue.
Slo
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany7 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 19:21:42
August 24 2010 19:11 GMT
#19
On August 25 2010 02:46 vanskater wrote:
the headphones that you saw at iem are the same noise cancleing phones that the people on the airport runways ware.


As far as i know the esl is using senheiser headphones develope for the use in helicoperts, propeller and turboprop aircrafts.

http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/professional_aviation_active-noise_500788

http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/professional_aviation_active-noise_500561?Open&path=professional_aviation_active-noise

both +500€
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 24 2010 19:14 GMT
#20
On August 25 2010 03:49 DuneBug wrote:
It seems like you'd want them to be able to hear the crowd reactions to really awesome play... But at the same time that might give something away.

I guess the players probably don't care? I'd be interested to hear their opinion. Maybe they can hear the crowd reactions through the headphones faintly anyway.


If a proxy rax is built in the center of the map (or wherever), the crowd will most likely go wild/start screaming or something. This will easily raise a red flag for the player as to "what the fuck are they screaming for nothing is going on-or is there".
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