• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:05
CEST 13:05
KST 20:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers12Maestros of the Game 2 announced52026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid23
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1224 users

Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 96

Forum Index > SC2 General
54608 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 94 95 96 97 98 2731 Next
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 03:07:16
October 18 2010 01:26 GMT
#1901
nvm
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Dreadwolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada220 Posts
October 18 2010 01:27 GMT
#1902
On October 18 2010 10:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It's almost unimaginable how I can rant at slasher for taking things I didn't say too seriously and running with them then I read this thread and hear complaints that I said select won't adapt or something is garb. I'd explain but I did that like 4x on the podcast seems like a lost cause.


ahh dont worry about it, one of the reason state of the game is so much fun because its not super serious. Keep it up i say sotg is an awesome show.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
October 18 2010 01:30 GMT
#1903
On October 18 2010 10:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It's almost unimaginable how I can rant at slasher for taking things I didn't say too seriously and running with them then I read this thread and hear complaints that I said select won't adapt or something is garb. I'd explain but I did that like 4x on the podcast seems like a lost cause.


but your excuses wheren't exactly what i'd call excuses. it was like yeah hes ok buuuuut.... , the way you've gone about it, thursday + the last two podcasts, excusing but not excusing is just a lack of respect to your peers.
Dead girls don't say no.
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
October 18 2010 01:32 GMT
#1904
Yeah there's always going to be people who whine no matter what you say. I listen to the podcasts and nothing anyone said has ever really crossed the line. No need to explain yourself because you're right, it is a lost cause. However there are plenty of people who DO agree with you, or at least understand where you are coming from. Keep doing what you guys do and try not to worry about what people say.
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
October 18 2010 01:34 GMT
#1905
On October 18 2010 10:30 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It's almost unimaginable how I can rant at slasher for taking things I didn't say too seriously and running with them then I read this thread and hear complaints that I said select won't adapt or something is garb. I'd explain but I did that like 4x on the podcast seems like a lost cause.


but your excuses wheren't exactly what i'd call excuses. it was like yeah hes ok buuuuut.... , the way you've gone about it, thursday + the last two podcasts, excusing but not excusing is just a lack of respect to your peers.



Select did the same build many times. He did it awesomely, and executed them well.

What's wrong with saying if he keeps doing that same build, the only one he did there, other players will adapt?

He didn't say "He's going to lose horribly at any other tournament". He just said he can't keep up only using that single build.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
bapplebo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3 Posts
October 18 2010 01:35 GMT
#1906
I thought Artosis told everyone to remove the stick from their ass last podcast.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
October 18 2010 01:36 GMT
#1907
On October 18 2010 10:34 Seam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:30 Sqq wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It's almost unimaginable how I can rant at slasher for taking things I didn't say too seriously and running with them then I read this thread and hear complaints that I said select won't adapt or something is garb. I'd explain but I did that like 4x on the podcast seems like a lost cause.


but your excuses wheren't exactly what i'd call excuses. it was like yeah hes ok buuuuut.... , the way you've gone about it, thursday + the last two podcasts, excusing but not excusing is just a lack of respect to your peers.



Select did the same build many times. He did it awesomely, and executed them well.

What's wrong with saying if he keeps doing that same build, the only one he did there, other players will adapt?

He didn't say "He's going to lose horribly at any other tournament". He just said he can't keep up only using that single build.


He implied so many times what i said, it was just a total lack of respect. So if he does the same build every time ? Hes obviously found a tactic that works, and til someone breaks his play he'll be smart to continue winning with it ? Why change it if its not broken.
Dead girls don't say no.
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
October 18 2010 01:38 GMT
#1908
On October 18 2010 10:35 bapplebo wrote:
I thought Artosis told everyone to remove the stick from their ass last podcast.

=O
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
October 18 2010 01:46 GMT
#1909
On October 18 2010 10:34 Seam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:30 Sqq wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It's almost unimaginable how I can rant at slasher for taking things I didn't say too seriously and running with them then I read this thread and hear complaints that I said select won't adapt or something is garb. I'd explain but I did that like 4x on the podcast seems like a lost cause.


but your excuses wheren't exactly what i'd call excuses. it was like yeah hes ok buuuuut.... , the way you've gone about it, thursday + the last two podcasts, excusing but not excusing is just a lack of respect to your peers.



Select did the same build many times. He did it awesomely, and executed them well.

What's wrong with saying if he keeps doing that same build, the only one he did there, other players will adapt?

He didn't say "He's going to lose horribly at any other tournament". He just said he can't keep up only using that single build.


what's the point of stating the blatantly obvious? it's not just him that needs to adapt, every single player needs to adapt and improve because this game is always changing.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 01:50:07
October 18 2010 01:47 GMT
#1910
On October 18 2010 10:36 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:34 Seam wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:30 Sqq wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It's almost unimaginable how I can rant at slasher for taking things I didn't say too seriously and running with them then I read this thread and hear complaints that I said select won't adapt or something is garb. I'd explain but I did that like 4x on the podcast seems like a lost cause.


but your excuses wheren't exactly what i'd call excuses. it was like yeah hes ok buuuuut.... , the way you've gone about it, thursday + the last two podcasts, excusing but not excusing is just a lack of respect to your peers.



Select did the same build many times. He did it awesomely, and executed them well.

What's wrong with saying if he keeps doing that same build, the only one he did there, other players will adapt?

He didn't say "He's going to lose horribly at any other tournament". He just said he can't keep up only using that single build.


He implied so many times what i said, it was just a total lack of respect. So if he does the same build every time ? Hes obviously found a tactic that works, and til someone breaks his play he'll be smart to continue winning with it ? Why change it if its not broken.


All he said is when people find the way to break it, he'll have to change up his play.

How is that a lack of respect?

On October 18 2010 10:46 javy925 wrote:


what's the point of stating the blatantly obvious? it's not just him that needs to adapt, every single player needs to adapt and improve because this game is always changing.


Yes, the only reason he said it about Select is due to the fact that he did use the same build.

I don't see how people are freaking out on this, saying "He is going to need to adapt" isn't rude, hell I wouldn't even call it criticism.

Are commentators on games being rude, and lacking respect when they say "Yeah, this team played amazingly, but in the future they are going to have to adapt when people figure out their playstlye"? If so, almost every commentator, for every sport, is a massive dick =\
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
Rahlekk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States107 Posts
October 18 2010 01:48 GMT
#1911
All the flame in this thread plus what was said on SoTG regarding is just makes it more hilarious.

Keep it up guys, I love this Podcast, it's a great listen and I get good info out of it.
viel gluck TLO ^^ | 행운을 빌어요 BoxeR
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
October 18 2010 01:50 GMT
#1912
Sorry of this was asked but did that special podcast take place today?
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
October 18 2010 01:51 GMT
#1913
On October 18 2010 10:50 lim1017 wrote:
Sorry of this was asked but did that special podcast take place today?


Yes, you can find a recording of it on DJwheats Ustream

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10269069
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
October 18 2010 01:52 GMT
#1914
On October 18 2010 10:48 Rahlekk wrote:
All the flame in this thread plus what was said on SoTG regarding is just makes it more hilarious.

Keep it up guys, I love this Podcast, it's a great listen and I get good info out of it.


I completely agree! anyways has anyone heard any more about the cast that was going to go on today? I read when JP said they might not be able to do it live but they will at least record it. Just wondering if there has been any update on when it will be uploaded it and where. Thanks!
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 02:09:58
October 18 2010 01:55 GMT
#1915
On October 18 2010 10:52 ApBuLLet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:48 Rahlekk wrote:
All the flame in this thread plus what was said on SoTG regarding is just makes it more hilarious.

Keep it up guys, I love this Podcast, it's a great listen and I get good info out of it.


I completely agree! anyways has anyone heard any more about the cast that was going to go on today? I read when JP said they might not be able to do it live but they will at least record it. Just wondering if there has been any update on when it will be uploaded it and where. Thanks!


I guess you looked at the TL date instead of the US date, the podcast already happened today, and will be uploaded to the various places within a couple days (or less).

Edit: it'll supposedly be here, itunes, sotg website, djwheat's itunes/website I think too.
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
October 18 2010 02:05 GMT
#1916
On October 18 2010 10:55 Ichabod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:52 ApBuLLet wrote:
On October 18 2010 10:48 Rahlekk wrote:
All the flame in this thread plus what was said on SoTG regarding is just makes it more hilarious.

Keep it up guys, I love this Podcast, it's a great listen and I get good info out of it.


I completely agree! anyways has anyone heard any more about the cast that was going to go on today? I read when JP said they might not be able to do it live but they will at least record it. Just wondering if there has been any update on when it will be uploaded it and where. Thanks!


I guess you looked at the TL date instead of the US date, the podcast already happened today, and will be uploaded to the various places within a couple days (or less).


Oh ok, I listened to the mini cast and they said 12 pm est but then I guess they had problems and couldn't cast it at that time or whatever. But anyways thanks, I'll be looking for it. I'm assuming it will be uploaded to the SotG website correct?
ironside
Profile Joined October 2010
51 Posts
October 18 2010 02:08 GMT
#1917
At the end of the day it is obvious if you read between the lines that incontrol and some of the others sotg ppls have a problem with select.
Jealous cos they will never have his sick micro/macro skills? Sourgrapes than he raped them all one after the other without a break for 10 hrs straight? Maybe cos he is Korean and the good old american xenophobia is more than just banter?
Who knows
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 02:12:42
October 18 2010 02:10 GMT
#1918
If incontrol was super mannered in SOTG and talked like it was a pure PR bit then the podcast would have about a tenth of the listeners, personally I wouldn't listen to it if the players had vanilla opinions.

Shit IdrA already toned it down like 1000x his normal "he's garbage" type talk, don't make inc go PC on us.

If you can't handle it just don't listen and imagine a koreanized interview with "I will try my hardest, I practiced a lot, and ____ is a tough opponent". It's pretty much the flavor of SOTG lately that you expect a lot of incontrol attempting to joke around or stir things up a bit.

Personally I think SeleCT is pretty damn good overall and will only get monstrous when he goes to Korea, but incontrol's comments really didn't bother me.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 02:14:17
October 18 2010 02:14 GMT
#1919
SOTG is SC2 talk with no fluff, thats why we love it.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 02:21:33
October 18 2010 02:20 GMT
#1920
On October 18 2010 10:47 Seam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 10:46 javy925 wrote:


what's the point of stating the blatantly obvious? it's not just him that needs to adapt, every single player needs to adapt and improve because this game is always changing.


Yes, the only reason he said it about Select is due to the fact that he did use the same build.

I don't see how people are freaking out on this, saying "He is going to need to adapt" isn't rude, hell I wouldn't even call it criticism.

Are commentators on games being rude, and lacking respect when they say "Yeah, this team played amazingly, but in the future they are going to have to adapt when people figure out their playstlye"? If so, almost every commentator, for every sport, is a massive dick =\


Just to clarify, I don't think it was rude. What bothered me was at the end of the Lo3/SotG podcast thing, I heard the people in the room saying that his TvZ play was "shit" or "garbage." I went through this podcast after it was uploaded to djwheat's stream but it cut off right before this was said. Maybe I simply misheard or misunderstood what was said, but, I don't think it's really fair to base someone's play off of two games, especially when you take into consideration how tired and exhausted he must have been after playing most of the top players in America only to have to play against one of the best zergs in the world to top it all off. Yeah, doing those hellion drops twice in a row was dumb but it's even dumber to criticize his TvZ play based on two games. But w/e, we'll see how he does at MLG Dallas and GSL3.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Prev 1 94 95 96 97 98 2731 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Playoffs Day 1
herO vs Classic
SHIN vs Cure
Solar vs Percival
Liquipedia
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group D
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
Afreeca ASL 14316
StarCastTV_EN352
Liquipedia
GSL
08:00
2026 Season 1: Qualifiers
herO vs Rogue
Maru vs SHIN
Cure vs ClassicLIVE!
IntoTheiNu 403
CranKy Ducklings SOOP190
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 316
TKL 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 11403
Sea 6596
Jaedong 5762
BeSt 1246
Horang2 1013
Rush 805
Pusan 424
Mind 285
Zeus 273
Larva 249
[ Show more ]
JYJ 174
ToSsGirL 113
Sharp 99
ggaemo 85
Britney 82
Sexy 40
Killer 29
[sc1f]eonzerg 28
Bale 27
Shine 26
Sacsri 10
SilentControl 10
GoRush 10
Noble 9
JulyZerg 8
Terrorterran 5
Icarus 3
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
Gorgc2581
XaKoH 465
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2502
zeus323
x6flipin308
allub284
edward176
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King120
Other Games
singsing1774
crisheroes210
Trikslyr116
QueenE45
B2W.Neo38
Happy6
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream9487
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4916
Other Games
gamesdonequick370
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 254
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1273
• Stunt577
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
22h 55m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
KCM Race Survival
1d 22h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 23h
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Escore
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Universe Titan Cup
3 days
Rogue vs Percival
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.