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GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18321
BRAZILIAN STEAK HOUSE IN PACIFIC NORTHWEST for Incontrol:

Ipanema

yup,
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18322
On May 04 2011 14:36 ronpaul012 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
I just can't believe that people took Colbi's response so badly. He didn't say anything bad about Liquid. All he said is they declined. He is not the person to tell you why Liquid declined. That falls on Liquid. Anyone thinking otherwise needs to learn how the real world works.


I agree with you for the most part. However the main thing is that eg came onto team liquids website and posted, and did not give team liquid justice. Had that post just gone up on eg's own site, I dont think there would have been a problem. At least thats what I see most people saying.


If Liquid was smaller and just based around the team, then I would see your point. But its not. Liquid is the mecca of sc2 everything. You can't announce something involving sc2 and not put it on Liquid.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18323
This is why I'll always support Tyler (and Liquid in general) over any other team. EG is like the car salesmen you try to avoid and Liquid are like shut-in library nerds (but cool!)
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18324
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there


I understood you. What you and Day9 were trying to argue made sense, you guys just unfortunately took the "harder to explain" side of the argument.
The Notorious Winkles
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18325
On May 04 2011 14:35 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:33 Zeri wrote:
On May 04 2011 14:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On May 04 2011 14:28 GeorgeForeman wrote:
iNcontroL is just addressing straw men at this point. Tyler never said not to post. He just said that if you're going to post, be a forum poster, not some guy in a suit. And Tyler never said that you should do that because he's on Team Liquid and its Team Liquid's website. He was saying that as a forum poster, he only wants people contributing on the forums. Which is completely valid.


iNcontroL is addressing that point because Tyler inappropriately is accusing Colbi of doing what he says. Colbi posted the barebones facts. Nothing more. Nothing less. He didn't post EG's side and he didn't post Liquid's side. Where Tyler is mistaken and what makes the entire argument ridiculous is poor interpretation of Colbi's initial post.


Tyler's whole point is that those weren't the bare bone facts. They were a certain set of true, core, facts, but there were others that are equally as 'bare bone' as colbi said that were left unsaid. and this caused incorrect inferences. Hence Tyler's accusation of deception.


I get Tyler's point, but I think they're unfounded. If I felt Colbi was actually responsible for what Tyler was accusing him, I'd probably be on his side. However, I don't think that's the case, and that's why so many people disagree with Tyler. They agree with him in principle, but not in this application of it.



Colbi is responsible as a forum poster to speak to a certain set of facts that he believes to be true. Cobli knew the full situation but instead made a post that said "TL invited and decline" instead of "TL invited and decline due to unresolvable server issues" The second post is EQUALLY NEUTRAL and truthful and equally as 'bare bone' and doesn't lead to false inferences. Colbi DID have a responsibility to say that.
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18326
This sounds dumb, but I've never used iTunes before, so I can't figure out how to watch SotG live. Can anyone give me a quick tutorial? I search for SotG under Podcasts, but all I get is the previous episodes.
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18327
EG is just way more professional than most of the other teams out there. If this was any other professional sport Tyler wouldn't even have a shred of a point...
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
socommaster123
Profile Joined May 2010
United States578 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18328
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there



More like 99% but its okay you needed to let out your anger
Idra White Ra Sheth DRG SaSe Thorzain GOGO!
nothayden
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18329
yo bro jack me off bro hell yeah bro
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18330
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there

I love you.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51455 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18331
Tyler ESTRO4LYF!!!!!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18332
If your friends, you should be able to go for a heated debate and call the outer out.
There's no point in being friends if you're friendship can't take something like this.

wat
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18333
tyler explaining his point badly
inc missing the point tyler is making and acting like a huge asshole
oh well. too bad that exchange went on so long.
time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
Paver
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia105 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18334
[image loading]

The best thing about this episode.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 05:41:48
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18335
On May 04 2011 14:36 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:32 Chro wrote:
I think tyler's idea is basically EG shouldnt have said anything on the fourm about team liquid being in it or not. Let the community ask team liquid if they're in it or not, EG should either say everything, or nothing.

He gave the community half the information, and as neutral as it was, leaving out information can be seen as aggressive. If we went to war and france didnt show up to the UN meeting and the media said "France didnt accept the invite to the meeting" then there would be a HUGE negative backlash no mater the reason. Its a very subtle way to attack someone.


pretty much this...
incontrol is saying colbi's response was neutral or w/e, but leaving out information can be interpreted in a lot of different ways.


He left out information on both sides. He didn't just post EG's "side" and leave it at that. His initial post that started the whole ball rolling was: "Liquid was invited, but chose not to participate."

Is that fairly vague and absent of information? Of course, because it would've been a dick move to only post EG's side, or presumptuously post Liquid's reasoning.

It's just unresolvable difference at this point. Either you somehow think it was deceptive or you don't.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
YiukeDukem
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States125 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18336
On May 04 2011 14:39 nothayden wrote:
yo bro jack me off bro hell yeah bro



User was banned for this post.
quye
Duoma
Profile Joined March 2011
United States396 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18337
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there


Hey, if you don't give a shit, 80% is enough!
"I have stared a horse in the eyes.... there is only black... only darkness..."
znowstorm
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia281 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18338
Not sure if this has been linked here already. Pretty hilarious.
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NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18339
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there


We got your message brotoss and I was feeling it.
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
PhyreHazard
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada298 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18340
On May 04 2011 14:35 spybreak wrote:
So Colbi getting flak for doing his job as a PR? LMAO


The point is that TL forum is not a place to advertise, so by responding to the question by doing some PR thing (and making TL look bad in the proccess) is kinda inapropriate.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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