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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18321
Ipanema yup, | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18322
On May 04 2011 14:36 ronpaul012 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2011 14:34 jmbthirteen wrote: I just can't believe that people took Colbi's response so badly. He didn't say anything bad about Liquid. All he said is they declined. He is not the person to tell you why Liquid declined. That falls on Liquid. Anyone thinking otherwise needs to learn how the real world works. I agree with you for the most part. However the main thing is that eg came onto team liquids website and posted, and did not give team liquid justice. Had that post just gone up on eg's own site, I dont think there would have been a problem. At least thats what I see most people saying. If Liquid was smaller and just based around the team, then I would see your point. But its not. Liquid is the mecca of sc2 everything. You can't announce something involving sc2 and not put it on Liquid. | ||
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ffdestiny
United States773 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18323
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18324
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there I understood you. What you and Day9 were trying to argue made sense, you guys just unfortunately took the "harder to explain" side of the argument. | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18325
On May 04 2011 14:35 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2011 14:33 Zeri wrote: On May 04 2011 14:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote: On May 04 2011 14:28 GeorgeForeman wrote: iNcontroL is just addressing straw men at this point. Tyler never said not to post. He just said that if you're going to post, be a forum poster, not some guy in a suit. And Tyler never said that you should do that because he's on Team Liquid and its Team Liquid's website. He was saying that as a forum poster, he only wants people contributing on the forums. Which is completely valid. iNcontroL is addressing that point because Tyler inappropriately is accusing Colbi of doing what he says. Colbi posted the barebones facts. Nothing more. Nothing less. He didn't post EG's side and he didn't post Liquid's side. Where Tyler is mistaken and what makes the entire argument ridiculous is poor interpretation of Colbi's initial post. Tyler's whole point is that those weren't the bare bone facts. They were a certain set of true, core, facts, but there were others that are equally as 'bare bone' as colbi said that were left unsaid. and this caused incorrect inferences. Hence Tyler's accusation of deception. I get Tyler's point, but I think they're unfounded. If I felt Colbi was actually responsible for what Tyler was accusing him, I'd probably be on his side. However, I don't think that's the case, and that's why so many people disagree with Tyler. They agree with him in principle, but not in this application of it. Colbi is responsible as a forum poster to speak to a certain set of facts that he believes to be true. Cobli knew the full situation but instead made a post that said "TL invited and decline" instead of "TL invited and decline due to unresolvable server issues" The second post is EQUALLY NEUTRAL and truthful and equally as 'bare bone' and doesn't lead to false inferences. Colbi DID have a responsibility to say that. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18326
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rO_Or
United States306 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18327
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18328
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there More like 99% but its okay you needed to let out your anger | ||
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nothayden
United States3 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18329
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18330
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there I love you. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18331
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18332
There's no point in being friends if you're friendship can't take something like this. | ||
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palanq
United States761 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18333
inc missing the point tyler is making and acting like a huge asshole oh well. too bad that exchange went on so long. | ||
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Paver
Australia105 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18334
![]() The best thing about this episode. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18335
On May 04 2011 14:36 Namu wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2011 14:32 Chro wrote: I think tyler's idea is basically EG shouldnt have said anything on the fourm about team liquid being in it or not. Let the community ask team liquid if they're in it or not, EG should either say everything, or nothing. He gave the community half the information, and as neutral as it was, leaving out information can be seen as aggressive. If we went to war and france didnt show up to the UN meeting and the media said "France didnt accept the invite to the meeting" then there would be a HUGE negative backlash no mater the reason. Its a very subtle way to attack someone. pretty much this... incontrol is saying colbi's response was neutral or w/e, but leaving out information can be interpreted in a lot of different ways. He left out information on both sides. He didn't just post EG's "side" and leave it at that. His initial post that started the whole ball rolling was: "Liquid was invited, but chose not to participate." Is that fairly vague and absent of information? Of course, because it would've been a dick move to only post EG's side, or presumptuously post Liquid's reasoning. It's just unresolvable difference at this point. Either you somehow think it was deceptive or you don't. | ||
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YiukeDukem
United States125 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18336
On May 04 2011 14:39 nothayden wrote: yo bro jack me off bro hell yeah bro User was banned for this post. | ||
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Duoma
United States396 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18337
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there Hey, if you don't give a shit, 80% is enough! | ||
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znowstorm
Australia281 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18338
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18339
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there We got your message brotoss and I was feeling it. | ||
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PhyreHazard
Canada298 Posts
May 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#18340
On May 04 2011 14:35 spybreak wrote: So Colbi getting flak for doing his job as a PR? LMAO The point is that TL forum is not a place to advertise, so by responding to the question by doing some PR thing (and making TL look bad in the proccess) is kinda inapropriate. | ||
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