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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 04 2011 05:34 GMT
#18281
I just can't believe that people took Colbi's response so badly. He didn't say anything bad about Liquid. All he said is they declined. He is not the person to tell you why Liquid declined. That falls on Liquid. Anyone thinking otherwise needs to learn how the real world works.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
May 04 2011 05:34 GMT
#18282
Tyler is steamed. Geoff shouldn't have called him a motherfker on air.
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18283
So Colbi getting flak for doing his job as a PR? LMAO
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18284
On May 04 2011 14:32 Chicane wrote:
Well... The NASL knows how to pull in viewers with IdrA as a guest commentator. Very interesting!

Go Machine! Take down MC!!


Wait, did I miss something? I thought he was only going to be doing commentary on his stream.
DeLoReAn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States81 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18285
Day9 was a total baller talking with idrA.
Dota2 is my escape.
ChaosSmurf
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom175 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18286
Waiting for the memes based on Tyler's face right now, that's the "just lost to 7 pool" face.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18287
On May 04 2011 14:33 ffz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:26 Goibon wrote:
lol geoff spinning it into competition

Tyler's point is that you don't come to a forum, which is not an advertising forum, but a community, and act like an advertiser.

If the standard is that TeamLiquid is to NOT be a community forum, but instead be a forum for advertisers to spew their bullshit PR speak, then we need to get that memo out.

Geoff being a real jerk here.


This is perfect. Exactly what I'm feeling like. Also it's frustrating that they didnt' talk about the changing server rule at all.

Yeah that was what i was more interested to hear. Lag is a huge huge huge issue, and really what we should have been talking about since its deciding matches more often than it should.

Instead we got half an hour of completely embarassing venting. Not the best.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
papyrus
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines716 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18288
On May 04 2011 14:32 monstertugg wrote:
FUCK YEAR IDRA CASTING

Should be intresting, haven't seen him casting before



Idra casted GSL once, and he's great man. Can't wait too see him cast.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18289
On May 04 2011 14:33 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On May 04 2011 14:28 GeorgeForeman wrote:
iNcontroL is just addressing straw men at this point. Tyler never said not to post. He just said that if you're going to post, be a forum poster, not some guy in a suit. And Tyler never said that you should do that because he's on Team Liquid and its Team Liquid's website. He was saying that as a forum poster, he only wants people contributing on the forums. Which is completely valid.


iNcontroL is addressing that point because Tyler inappropriately is accusing Colbi of doing what he says. Colbi posted the barebones facts. Nothing more. Nothing less. He didn't post EG's side and he didn't post Liquid's side. Where Tyler is mistaken and what makes the entire argument ridiculous is poor interpretation of Colbi's initial post.


Tyler's whole point is that those weren't the bare bone facts. They were a certain set of true, core, facts, but there were others that are equally as 'bare bone' as colbi said that were left unsaid. and this caused incorrect inferences. Hence Tyler's accusation of deception.


I get Tyler's point, but I think they're unfounded. If I felt Colbi was actually responsible for what Tyler was accusing him, I'd probably be on his side. However, I don't think that's the case, and that's why so many people disagree with Tyler. They agree with him in principle, but not in this application of it.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
nothayden
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18290
FORUM DRAMA

because retarded people don't have anything else to talk about

User was banned for this post.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18291
On May 04 2011 14:34 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Tyler is steamed. Geoff shouldn't have called him a motherfker on air.


definitely unnecessary, but I think his frustration was understandable. Tyler's opinion on the matter was very hypocritical, and he was unwilling to bend in any way.
SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18292
On May 04 2011 14:28 GeorgeForeman wrote:
iNcontroL is just addressing straw men at this point. Tyler never said not to post. He just said that if you're going to post, be a forum poster, not some guy in a suit. And Tyler never said that you should do that because he's on Team Liquid and its Team Liquid's website. He was saying that as a forum poster, he only wants people contributing on the forums. Which is completely valid.



Yeah I agree with this, what Tyler was pointing out was completely reasonable but I think he had a hard time figuring out how to get his point across. I feel bad for him because Geoff completely destroyed him with a lot of unreasonable rebuttals.

I love them both though
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18293
On May 04 2011 14:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
I just can't believe that people took Colbi's response so badly. He didn't say anything bad about Liquid. All he said is they declined. He is not the person to tell you why Liquid declined. That falls on Liquid. Anyone thinking otherwise needs to learn how the real world works.


hence why he shouldnt have said anything. Any other time its up to the team to respond to questions about their team. Not for a 2nd party to represent them.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18294
hmmm idra with gretorp....
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
May 04 2011 05:35 GMT
#18295
I just have to say that Machine sounds like really awesome guy, I am sad I didn't watch his stream yet. I hope he gives good fight and hopefully win against MC!

And Tasteless had priceless smile after he heard bunch of people are asking why is he so sexy, ehhehe. :D
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
May 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#18296
All this sotg does is make me think is that there needs to be a Bryce Bates Nick Plott Cast a BBNPC if you please, things will never get heated =].
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 05:37:36
May 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#18297
On May 04 2011 14:32 Chro wrote:
I think tyler's idea is basically EG shouldnt have said anything on the fourm about team liquid being in it or not. Let the community ask team liquid if they're in it or not, EG should either say everything, or nothing.

He gave the community half the information, and as neutral as it was, leaving out information can be seen as aggressive. If we went to war and france didnt show up to the UN meeting and the media said "France didnt accept the invite to the meeting" then there would be a HUGE negative backlash no mater the reason. Its a very subtle way to attack someone.


pretty much this...
incontrol is saying colbi's response was neutral or w/e, but leaving out information can be interpreted in a lot of different ways.

and i lost a ton of respect for incontrol. he had a lot of good points, but there was no need to personally attack tyler, and he kept circling around frivolous things tyler said instead of addressing the entire issue at hand
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
May 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#18298
On May 04 2011 14:34 jmbthirteen wrote:
I just can't believe that people took Colbi's response so badly. He didn't say anything bad about Liquid. All he said is they declined. He is not the person to tell you why Liquid declined. That falls on Liquid. Anyone thinking otherwise needs to learn how the real world works.


I agree with you for the most part. However the main thing is that eg came onto team liquids website and posted, and did not give team liquid justice. Had that post just gone up on eg's own site, I dont think there would have been a problem. At least thats what I see most people saying.
I'm a gooner.
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
May 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#18299
On May 04 2011 14:35 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:33 ffz wrote:
On May 04 2011 14:26 Goibon wrote:
lol geoff spinning it into competition

Tyler's point is that you don't come to a forum, which is not an advertising forum, but a community, and act like an advertiser.

If the standard is that TeamLiquid is to NOT be a community forum, but instead be a forum for advertisers to spew their bullshit PR speak, then we need to get that memo out.

Geoff being a real jerk here.


This is perfect. Exactly what I'm feeling like. Also it's frustrating that they didnt' talk about the changing server rule at all.

Yeah that was what i was more interested to hear. Lag is a huge huge huge issue, and really what we should have been talking about since its deciding matches more often than it should.

Instead we got half an hour of completely embarassing venting. Not the best.



Yep. I'm looking forward to either a giant post by Tyler which resolves all of this. Geoff getting way too defensive.
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
flanksteak
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada246 Posts
May 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#18300
Lets solve everyone's problems!

1) Enable overlord upgrades for tier 1 Zerg. Speed or overseer, or both, I don't care. Deals with early detection problems and scouting problems. Adding creep spew to tier 1... i'm on the fence about, but it would let zergs prevent bunkers/pylons from being built too close in undesirable positions + have more creep to defend on, adds the ability to do early cheese/risky play. The appropriate downside is that your overlords are exposed, and losing them can be costly especially in the early game.

2) Geoff and Tyler realize it's not that big a deal, and apologize - and see that both points of view have merit. They hug and stay brotosses.
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