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zs3000
Profile Joined March 2010
United States43 Posts
May 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#18301
On May 04 2011 14:34 bjornkavist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:19 Warrice wrote:
Tyler and day9 got rolled by eg today


It's not them getting rolled, it's them being diplomatic. Not only are they friends with these people, they have to keep within the interests of the community.
Obviously Day9 isn't going to rant about balance and completely alienate a third of his fans, that may also be die hard idra fans, or stout fans who believe zerg is UP. It's within his best interest as a spokesperson of esports to not get into a childish discussion about balance on a show that 20k people are watching live.

On the Incontrol, Tyler debate, I love them both. But it was completely childish for the debate to go on longer than 2 minutes.
They are both looking out for the best interests of their teams (EG and Liquid) as a team and a franchise. Yet decide to have tense Ego thrusting debate battle, that puts both teams in an awkward situation where instead of both franchises benefiting each other, they alienate fans of both and make both teams look aggressive and unfriendly. The arguement was unprofessional and not the funny kind that makes the show better. Atleast with arguements about balance, your discussing the actual State Of The Game.

But despite that, keep up the great work. Love the show!


Quoting this because I feel this is well thought out, and I feel to be true.
www.justin.tv/zs3000
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#18302
Nothing funny about Boxer losing Machine >=|
The Notorious Winkles
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
May 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#18303
Machine is like the nicest guy in the world
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
May 04 2011 05:37 GMT
#18304
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
May 04 2011 05:37 GMT
#18305
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there


We gotcha
閑静 しずか (ノ・_・)ノ
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 04 2011 05:37 GMT
#18306
On May 04 2011 14:34 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Tyler is steamed. Geoff shouldn't have called him a motherfker on air.


Think he has a right to be tbf, He was making valid points that are very hard to explain but instead of actually discussing the issue Geoff was being condescending and frivolous with his arguments. And there was nothing wrong with what he was saying, it's just that every minor detail got twisted until it completely warped what he was trying to say.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18307
Hahaha another classic short WhiteRa story.
Creep
Profile Joined September 2010
United States229 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18308
On May 04 2011 14:35 nothayden wrote:
FORUM DRAMA

because retarded people don't have anything else to talk about


I think they joked on the show once that SOTG is like The View.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18309
There are connotative meanings and denotative meanings.
On May 02 2011 10:17 Colbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:11 KiNGxXx wrote:
No Liquid?

But the tournament sounds good!

Liquid was invited, but chose not to participate.

If you don't think this post has a deceptive connotation, knowing the information later revealed,I don't know what to say to you. I'll try to explain the connotations of that post in case you fail to realize them. It paints EG as the ones being flexible and accommodating, (inviting TL), and it paints TL as pretentious (choosing not to participate).

A more reasonable thing to say would be that EG and TL were unable to arrive at an agreement upon tournament conditions. Period. No one is saying that EG's post was not necessary. Just that Tyler's subsequent response was justified.
ChaosSmurf
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom175 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18310
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there

I wanna see the other 80%, you should write it up (or forget about it like everyone else will have by 7 days from now)
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18311
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there


Just take a look through the last 5-6 or whatever pages. Many of us did understand what you were trying to say, and it makes sense....
Obaten
Profile Joined December 2010
United States730 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18312
Are there any pictures of White-Ra delivering this speech?
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18313
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there


It was pretty hard to watch bro. From both sides.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18314
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there

I still love you... and stride gum
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18315
On May 04 2011 14:34 Oreo7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 14:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On May 04 2011 14:28 GeorgeForeman wrote:
iNcontroL is just addressing straw men at this point. Tyler never said not to post. He just said that if you're going to post, be a forum poster, not some guy in a suit. And Tyler never said that you should do that because he's on Team Liquid and its Team Liquid's website. He was saying that as a forum poster, he only wants people contributing on the forums. Which is completely valid.


iNcontroL is addressing that point because Tyler inappropriately is accusing Colbi of doing what he says. Colbi posted the barebones facts. Nothing more. Nothing less. He didn't post EG's side and he didn't post Liquid's side. Where Tyler is mistaken and what makes the entire argument ridiculous is poor interpretation of Colbi's initial post.


iNcontrol has a tendency to do this kind of thing in every argument, regardless of whether he is right or wrong, take one microcosm of what someone is saying, and just attack that rather then his opponenets overall argument.


Ya, thats what you do in debate. But then again, I don't think he's doing it intentionally, it's just a debater's instinct....its like a shark smelling blood, if you smell weakness in the opponent's arguments and you just attack, it's what you naturally do if you debate a lot.



xmo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States60 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18316
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there


80%? I thought it was more like 78%.

Quotes are hard. Let's go shopping!
maahes`ra
Profile Joined January 2011
United States255 Posts
May 04 2011 05:38 GMT
#18317
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there

The important ones all still adore you, brotoss~.

:D
( ._.) ( ._) ( .) ( ) (≖ ) (‿≖ ) (≖‿≖ ) (≖‿≖) ( ≖‿≖) ( -‿-)
PZPolice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1 Post
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18318
Geoff completely disregarding Tyler's argument and trying to make him look like an ass. It was almost unbearable to watch. He has a history of acting childishly but this made me not want to support anything he's a part of.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18319
On May 04 2011 14:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I 80% failed at expressing what I was trying to say. My message was somewhere in there


I understood what you were trying to say, and think you are were completely right btw morally. Regardless of what other people say.
viii
Profile Joined March 2011
United States266 Posts
May 04 2011 05:39 GMT
#18320
"iNcontrol died eating in a Brazilian stake house" posted in TL.
For those who came from nothing, and became something - DGK
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