EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 913
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trias_e
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:22 TheHova wrote: I think that, he's on the right line on a moral point of view but i think it's really hard to articulate it. Yeah. Colbi is representing EG. EG invited Liquid and Liquid declines for X reason. All Colbi says is that Liquid declined. That is not the same as Liquid declined for X reason. So in reality, Colbi is lying and giving off false perceptions. I think the entire discussion about Stride Gum/Hot Bid or whatever is weird and maybe not important at all. It's basically the same thing, except with gum and HB the incentive is monetary, whereas with Colbi the monetary incentive to lie is non-existent, so leaving out the comment about Liquid can only come from two places: A) Colbi does not want Liquid to look good and B) Colbi wants EG to look good. Tyler's position (and he did get heated, which he admitted to be wrong in a weird convoluted way) is that Colbi should have just given the whole story, because the only reasons not to were hostile to the TEAM team liquid, which in turn, damage the very income of the SITE team liquid, upon which Colbi is ironically posting this. TL;DR - Colbi is intentionally leaving out part of a story which makes TL look bad on the TL forums, and Tyler dont take no shit from that fucking kid yo | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:27 shmoo wrote: Watching Tyler argue his point is like watching Fox News. No amount of logic or evidence can convince him. "Don't post anything if you are not going to post everything." What kind of nonsense is that? You never know everything about a situation, so if you post everything you know, you are putting words in someone's mouth. hes saying that for the people in the know who know everything, and i think he has a point. obviously he was fired up and completely screwed up his argument but the truth of it is the eg guy could have mentioned more in his post | ||
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MuNkz
Iceland90 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:26 Goibon wrote: lol geoff spinning it into competition Tyler's point is that you don't come to a forum, which is not an advertising forum, but a community, and act like an advertiser. If the standard is that TeamLiquid is to NOT be a community forum, but instead be a forum for advertisers to spew their bullshit PR speak, then we need to get that memo out. Geoff being a real jerk here. could not have but it better my self. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
EG posts a league. People are like waaaaa why is tl not in it(literally a couple posts down). and to give a pr response to save their ass. Then litterally 2 posts down people are like waaaa wtf why doesnt TL want to play. Tyler gives a a pr response. Then it gets heated. Ive never seen eg respond so fast to questions about anything. Its like they knew the questions were going to be asked and wanted to get out ahead of it. Usually what happens, is shit like this doesnt get explained in posts. Usually its all news releases. If a question is raised about x team. Its up to the team to answer the questions about their team as much as they want so they can respond to it how they wanted and not have a second party skew the view of them in a way they didnt want. Because if it happened where colbi didnt respond and tl got to answer the questions fully without someone jumping the gun it woulda turned out better for everyone. But eg is the king of spin since early 2000 so it doesnt suprise me. | ||
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Man.Magic
United States178 Posts
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PhyreHazard
Canada298 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:26 Goibon wrote: lol geoff spinning it into competition Tyler's point is that you don't come to a forum, which is not an advertising forum, but a community, and act like an advertiser. If the standard is that TeamLiquid is to NOT be a community forum, but instead be a forum for advertisers to spew their bullshit PR speak, then we need to get that memo out. Geoff being a real jerk here. This is the Tyler's point but words just didn't came out right and now it's even worst then before. | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
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DeLoReAn
United States81 Posts
Teamliquid is meant for us all, if its just for the Team then how is this a community site? | ||
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I)etox
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Suffo
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WolfMother
United States61 Posts
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:26 drox22 wrote: so you are attacking 1 scv with 25 zerglings? Why not try to hide the zerglings to that the terran doesnt get any information? This is an essential problem with most zerg players, you keep your zerglings clumped and kill 1 scv with 25 zerglings and then go "WHY IS IT POSSIBLE THAT 1 SCV can scout 25 zerglings" answer: because you are stupid. And if you properly control the wathc towers with your zerglings I doubt a terran will ever get an scv to your base and if he uses a scan hes behind economically. All 3 races have the same problem, it's just that for some reason zerg players LOVE to qq and seriously the win rate in all server is pretty balanced, zerg even has a higher win rate than terran on most servers overall, I'm sick and tired of this zerg imbalance crying, just learn to play the game and use your brain and stop crying... or switch races. Although I do agree with some of your points (I'm a terran player), you should use win ratio statistics from ladder, the MMR system is BUILT to even out the win ratio of all players (and thus all races). | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:29 udgnim wrote: is a completely appropriate answer to the question "No Liquid?." it's generic and neutral and does not put EG or Liquid in a bad light. I have no idea why Tyler took it so personally. it seems his reaction is more due to disappointment that EG chose to maintain their decision that all games are to be played on NA server unless there's an agreement from both teams to play on a different server. Indeed, that is the impression I had. Tyler's words on SoTG were quite explicit actually. | ||
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ExquisiteRed
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DeadPixels
United States78 Posts
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sooch
Canada299 Posts
On May 04 2011 14:29 udgnim wrote: is a completely appropriate answer to the question "No Liquid?." it's generic and neutral and does not put EG or Liquid in a bad light. I have no idea why Tyler took it so personally. it seems his reaction is more due to disappointment that EG chose to maintain their decision that all games are to be played on NA server unless there's an agreement from both teams to play on a different server. It's a small statement that doesn't warrant 30 minutes of heated debate and ad hominem attack...but the statement is not neutral. The statement places the responsibility entirely on TL for choosing not to participate, rather than describing it as an inability for both parties to come to an agreement. | ||
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monstertugg
Sweden4 Posts
Should be intresting, haven't seen him casting before | ||
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Chro
United States240 Posts
He gave the community half the information, and as neutral as it was, leaving out information can be seen as aggressive. If we went to war and france didnt show up to the UN meeting and the media said "France didnt accept the invite to the meeting" then there would be a HUGE negative backlash no mater the reason. Its a very subtle way to attack someone. | ||
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