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On April 22 2011 14:59 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 14:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On April 22 2011 14:48 Maliris wrote:On April 22 2011 14:25 FortyOzs wrote:On April 22 2011 14:18 Maliris wrote:
i wish Anna would stop interrupting... seems like a publicity stunt just to get her name out there more tbh. its getting pretty tedious after the 50th time They told Anna to keep calling during the show dude, she asks good questions. But seriously, you're making drama out of it? It's a fucking chill podcast, what made you think it's a "publicity stunt"? I really hope you are kidding. Edit: I'm just going to assume you weren't kidding and say FUCKING GET OVER IT it's their podcast im allowed to voice criticism, you are aware of that right? Why exactly does this antagonise you so much? not everyone that has a conflicting view is a "hater/troll". why is Anna allowed special treatment? and you really have trouble comprehending the fact that it is possibly a publicity stunt? She is a pageant model/eSports journalist/performance coach) her career is pretty much founded upon self publicity.. also what is there to "FUCKING GET OVER"? I don't like it, so i voiced my opinion, others have also held this opinion, if the SOTG hosts don't want to change it they don't have to, doesn't hurt to give feedback Anna is allowed special treatment because she is Geoff's girlfriend. Pretty simple. Its hilarious when she calls in and she asks great questions at least. JP's brother should walk over and ask questions imo, and maybe let Tyler's wife ask some too, that would be hilarious too
Sure why not
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I disagree with branding the community as cynics as put in the podcast.
I think that reactions are of course more extreme than normal but as much as the community lambasts and showers "bad" events with hate, we also appreciates well run events and tournaments.
In fact, the starcraft community is very eager to lavish praises on events that do get it right. See Dreamhack Invitational , SC Reddit Invitational, and of course IPL. It is actually very heartwarming how encouraging most people are in those threads. Sure there are idiots who complains about every little thing but they are the minority.
Therefore, I don't think the community unfairly brand every events as not good enough. In fact, when the community as a whole is unhappy about something, there is probably a good reason
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On April 22 2011 15:09 dtz wrote:
I disagree with branding the community as cynics as put in the podcast.
I think that reactions are of course more extreme than normal but as much as the community lambasts and showers "bad" events with hate, we also appreciates well run events and tournaments.
In fact, the starcraft community is very eager to lavish praises on events that do get it right. See Dreamhack Invitational , SC Reddit Invitational, and of course IPL. It is actually very heartwarming how encouraging most people are in those threads. Sure there are idiots who complains about every little thing but they are the minority.
Therefore, I don't think the community unfairly brand every events as not good enough. In fact, when the community as a whole is unhappy about something, there is probably a good reason
So true. We get way too excited when things goes well, and way too angry when things go sideways.
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On April 22 2011 15:07 Baarn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 14:59 Maliris wrote:On April 22 2011 14:53 jmbthirteen wrote:On April 22 2011 14:48 Maliris wrote:On April 22 2011 14:25 FortyOzs wrote:On April 22 2011 14:18 Maliris wrote:
i wish Anna would stop interrupting... seems like a publicity stunt just to get her name out there more tbh. its getting pretty tedious after the 50th time They told Anna to keep calling during the show dude, she asks good questions. But seriously, you're making drama out of it? It's a fucking chill podcast, what made you think it's a "publicity stunt"? I really hope you are kidding. Edit: I'm just going to assume you weren't kidding and say FUCKING GET OVER IT it's their podcast im allowed to voice criticism, you are aware of that right? Why exactly does this antagonise you so much? not everyone that has a conflicting view is a "hater/troll". why is Anna allowed special treatment? and you really have trouble comprehending the fact that it is possibly a publicity stunt? She is a pageant model/eSports journalist/performance coach) her career is pretty much founded upon self publicity.. also what is there to "FUCKING GET OVER"? I don't like it, so i voiced my opinion, others have also held this opinion, if the SOTG hosts don't want to change it they don't have to, doesn't hurt to give feedback Anna is allowed special treatment because she is Geoff's girlfriend. Pretty simple. Its hilarious when she calls in and she asks great questions at least. JP's brother should walk over and ask questions imo, and maybe let Tyler's wife ask some too, that would be hilarious too Sure why not
I think JP's brother should ask questions, but we never see his face. Only his feet.
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On April 22 2011 14:18 Maliris wrote:
i wish Anna would stop interrupting... seems like a publicity stunt just to get her name out there more tbh. its getting pretty tedious after the 50th time
This. Geoff & Anna are so in the business. Not that it matter, that's good for esport, but sometime publicity needs to be tamed a bit, especially when it prevent Tyler or Day from displaying their knowledge.
Also I asked myself, how come all the european players (most likely from WC3 like thorzain, hasuobs and such) are the "hard-worker" while the american player (like incontrol or day9) are more community heroes who have less results as players but more involved in esport as a product. Do you think it's cultural ?
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well casting vs playing is a completely different thing
you should compare players with players, Day9 is primarily a caster not a player
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It's a primarily English community, naturally Americans are going to make up a huge portion of community roles. As players, though, Americans are no less likely to be "hard working" whatever that means. Look at IdrA, or the American born Canadian HuK.
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On April 22 2011 17:05 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 14:18 Maliris wrote:
i wish Anna would stop interrupting... seems like a publicity stunt just to get her name out there more tbh. its getting pretty tedious after the 50th time This. Geoff & Anna are so in the business. Not that it matter, that's good for esport, but sometime publicity needs to be tamed a bit, especially when it prevent Tyler or Day from displaying their knowledge. Also I asked myself, how come all the european players (most likely from WC3 like thorzain, hasuobs and such) are the "hard-worker" while the american player (like incontrol or day9) are more community heroes who have less results as players but more involved in esport as a product. Do you think it's cultural ?
What? Are you kidding me? I love it when Anna calls. It's cute and hilarious.
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It was cute and hilarious the first few times, before it started being so forced and all the jokes about it became stale. Not that I mind it too much, but it's slowly becoming a pet peeve now.
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On April 22 2011 17:37 Talin wrote:
It was cute and hilarious the first few times, before it started being so forced and all the jokes about it became stale. Not that I mind it too much, but it's slowly becoming a pet peeve now.
yep, paused the vod of the podcast when it happened and came straight to this thread to make sure i wasn't the only one.
if its going to be planned ahead and so obviously staged, why even let it interrupt the show? just have geoff call her at minute X when there isn't a good discussion happening. that way the forever alones can still hear a girl's voice and the rest of us can still enjoy a solid podcast.
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On April 22 2011 17:12 Zzoram wrote:
well casting vs playing is a completely different thing
you should compare players with players, Day9 is primarily a caster not a player
Day9 was a player first, he became a caster afterward.
It's a primarily English community, naturally Americans are going to make up a huge portion of community roles. As players, though, Americans are no less likely to be "hard working" whatever that means. Look at IdrA, or the American born Canadian HuK.
Yeah, but both IdrA & HuK are hype machine, you hear about them weither they make result or not, while you don't hear anything about hasuobs, thorzain or dimaga except when they play / make result (white-ra obviously is different).
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I really enjoyed it, made me laugh quite a bit even though I only understand a bit about starcraft 
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Inc: Can I just confirm...that you are criticising MC right now.
Tyler: Yes. I am criticising MC-
Inc: D:> *shuddering gasp*
El oh el.
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On April 22 2011 13:03 Maliris wrote:after reading Tylers past few posts i have such a mancrush on Tyler right now  he is so eloquent, wise and handsome + Show Spoiler +
You dont have to be affraid of a mancrush on tyler, its okay. We all have it.
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On April 22 2011 18:35 WhiteDog wrote:
Yeah, but both IdrA & HuK are hype machine, you hear about them weither they make result or not, while you don't hear anything about hasuobs, thorzain or dimaga except when they play / make result (white-ra obviously is different).
The hype was mostly because they compete (or competed until recently) on the Korean scene, there's always going to be hype around foreigners in Korea. It's somewhat justified because success on the Korean scene (and just being Code S can be considered as a success) still outweighs most accomplishments a player can get in Europe/NA.
European players like Jinro, Ret and TLO are still going to be regarded highly and hyped up because of that as well, even if their recent results have been largely unimpressive.
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On April 22 2011 14:51 shindigs wrote:
All sorts of mad in this thread its insane.
Its weird reading some of the stuff people complain about in a relaxed podcast they chose to listen to.
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I'm sure they'll talk about the IPL and its production value, but I'm curious as to how they'll compare the IPL with the NASL, GSL, and other pre-existing tournaments.
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I tried to write down tylers key setup, just in case anyone else wanted it, and also so that someone else could glance over it and see if its correct.
1: nexus
2: gates untill warpgates, then stargates
q: warpgates
z: robotics xcvb observer, immortal, warprism
tab: where to build reinforcements (camera lock)
werty: warpgate units
345: main army
d+f: units that harras / warpprisms observers phoenix
I thought that this was one of the best bits of the podcast, an idea that really can benefit everyone!
If someone could reply and tell me where to find more information on custom setups, not specifically tylers, just other custom setups that people use that would be great, as I have searched the TL forums, but clearly wasn't searching the right words..
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Defending the NASL at this point is absurd. The consistently heavy lag, the disconnects, the WOs, the huge delay. Its not a matter of criticizing anything. The NASL is borderline unwatchable in the literal sense.
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On April 22 2011 20:06 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 18:35 WhiteDog wrote:
Yeah, but both IdrA & HuK are hype machine, you hear about them weither they make result or not, while you don't hear anything about hasuobs, thorzain or dimaga except when they play / make result (white-ra obviously is different). The hype was mostly because they compete (or competed until recently) on the Korean scene, there's always going to be hype around foreigners in Korea. It's somewhat justified because success on the Korean scene (and just being Code S can be considered as a success) still outweighs most accomplishments a player can get in Europe/NA. European players like Jinro, Ret and TLO are still going to be regarded highly and hyped up because of that as well, even if their recent results have been largely unimpressive.
I agree.
If Hasuobs or Thorzain went to Korea and had good results, they'd receive the same hype that Whitedog hates (?) so much. I don't know why he threw Dimaga's name in there because just like Jinro, both of them did well in Korea and the hype around them instantly exploded.
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