EPTOn September 30 2010 17:27 acrimoneyius wrote:
because being fat isn't something you wear
because being fat isn't something you wear
One word: Speedos.
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
One word: Speedos. | ||
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Sylvr
United States524 Posts
On September 30 2010 17:29 kojinshugi wrote: Teenagers have no money. Gaming event sponsors want the 20-35 male gamer demographic. All of whom think that esports is srs bsns. The GSL prize pool suggests that it most certainly IS serious business. ^^ | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
Huh? My point still stands. | ||
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
On September 30 2010 17:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote: smokim it isn't like we decided we hate him and think he is trash... we are talking about how he was interviewing after winning a prestigious tourney and he couldn't be bothered to remove his hood or spit out the gum. If a guy wears a hat to a dinner your parents invited him to are they going to yell at him? Probably not, but a lot of parents would be less than impressed. Same effect with this interview... did the crew stop mid interview and go "fuck this kid." Nope, interview was fine. Could have been better had he done what it takes to make it appear you care by social standards. It'd be pretty hilarious to have this debate though. I would love to hear the amazing arguments for not giving a fuck what people consider proper etiquette or acting professional. He will be a guest in 1 or 2 weeks was it? There you have your go, go trash him, question him and argue the hell out of him and we'll see if he's a man that deserves to have a hood and chew gun or not. Best way to prove a point =) | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
It was a joke. I agree with your point, obviously. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On September 30 2010 17:44 Yttrasil wrote: He will be a guest in 1 or 2 weeks was it? There you have your go, go trash him, question him and argue the hell out of him and we'll see if he's a man that deserves to have a hood and chew gun or not. Best way to prove a point =) Was never a matter of "trashing" him. It was always just a recommendation to a super star who is young and new to traveling for tourneys. Obviously on our show we don't have a Jerry Springer final thought where we explain cordially why it is bad to wear a hood.. we had some laughs. He will be a guest and I will probably tease him about it. If you listen to the SOTG you probably wouldn't be surprised by that or "dare" me to "trash" him  It's almost a given. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 30 2010 17:02 dacthehork wrote: I personally didn't find anything disrespectful about huk's attire. It was definitely weird but nothing really disrespectful. Mainly got the clue he liked wearing the hoodie for comfort sakes (hiding himself a bit in such a public place, could be a bit camera shy / nervous about it and thought wearing a hoodie would look better etc who knows. hes trying to make a living in a profession where literally ALL of the money is based off sponsorship. he doesnt get to be shy. ya it sucks being in the public eye, but thats how you make money in an entertainment industry. esports is shaky enough as it is in north america, first big sc2 event in the biggest american esports organization and the winner acts like that? thats not acceptable. and before people call me a hypocrite theres a massive difference between telling a newbie to fuck off in a ladder game and acting like he did in a live public interview after winning a big tournament. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10307 Posts
On September 30 2010 17:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote: It'd be pretty hilarious to have this debate though. I would love to hear the amazing arguments for not giving a fuck what people consider proper etiquette or acting professional. I think that should be done over PM from now on, i pretty much completely derailed the thread now(sorry JP), but im glad to have this discussion, but lets have it somewhere else apologizing for starting this debate | ||
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automocc
United States40 Posts
On September 30 2010 17:53 IdrA wrote: hes trying to make a living in a profession where literally ALL of the money is based off sponsorship. he doesnt get to be shy. ya it sucks being in the public eye, but thats how you make money in an entertainment industry. esports is shaky enough as it is in north america, first big sc2 event in the biggest american esports organization and the winner acts like that? thats not acceptable. and before people call me a hypocrite theres a massive difference between telling a newbie to fuck off in a ladder game and acting like he did in a live public interview after winning a big tournament. it will leave an even worse image in Korea | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
On September 30 2010 17:50 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Was never a matter of "trashing" him. It was always just a recommendation to a super star who is young and new to traveling for tourneys. Obviously on our show we don't have a Jerry Springer final thought where we explain cordially why it is bad to wear a hood.. we had some laughs. He will be a guest and I will probably tease him about it. If you listen to the SOTG you probably wouldn't be surprised by that or "dare" me to "trash" him It's almost a given.No. You don't get it do you? YOU HATE HUK. There is no way around this. Villainous slander and defamy were thrown around in the last show, and now you must settle it in a mono-a-mono battle of wits, strength, and e-penis size. Huk will be wearing a hoodie for all aforementioned events. | ||
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Devlin
Sweden91 Posts
1) Focus on GSL. The show has lately been revolving a lot around GSL and the korean scene, which I think is great! Getting IdrA to commentate on that makes it feel a bit more hands-on, it creates a sense of closeness to the issue being discussed which is really quite unique for this podcast. One thing I think could improve in this area would be to perhaps give the listeners a bit more information about the players when you ask the "x vs y, who's your pick?" questions to the panel. Same thing goes for when you discuss SC1 players' switch to SC2. As a player who only started following the scene with SC2, the names from SC1 doesn't say anything to me. I think perhaps if it's possible to throw in at least which race/playstyle the players use can help create an image for people who don't follow GSL themselves very much. 2) Guests. It's totally awesome that you can get people like TLO, IdrA, and PsY to come and discuss all things Starcraft! It is really interesting to hear what the more known players think and feel of the game. But I think that, in order to get the most out of this, you need to tailor the episodes slightly more in favor of putting the guests in the spotlight. The latest episode with both IdrA and PsY as guests felt a bit like a production failure - despite the episode being both informative and hilarious. If you have a guest that is not as familiar with the korean scene as the rest of the panel (PsY), I think you need to ask questions that are more easily answered, without requiring so much background knowledge of the scene. Perhaps even change the entire show's schedule and reduce the GSL portion of the show. IdrA has the knowledge to be able to provide valuable inputs on the matter. But for PsY it is totally understandable if it's hard to crack in to the panel's discussions, especially since incontrol and day9 can completely devour the airtime. That leads to him being dead silent and probably making him feel like a fly on the wall, with no input to give. I hope that PsY can be a guest again later on in the show, as I think his commentary and playstyle is quite interesting, and more in line with most "regular-Joe-on-the-ladder" players view on the game. To sum it up: Tailor the episodes a bit more around the guests and bring them to the spotlight, instead of having them try to fight incontrol and day9 for airtime, which is virtually impossible if you don't have that tip-top knowledge and personality mix like they do. Help the guests bring out their personalities! Finally, try to limit the number of guests to 1, otherwise you even further increase the distance between the guests and the regulars. 3) Lightning round. I like the concept of this, as it's one way to help address the issue under 2). The execution could be much better though. Discuss the lightning round with the participants before the show and make them understand that you get limited time to think, and limited length to the answers. And also, have the other panelists be quiet during this interview. It distracts so much from the concept if they chime in and answer "for" the interviewees, or make remarks immediately after they replied. The focus should be on the participants of the lightning round! Hope that helps! Love the show! So much humour and knowledge mixed really makes this the best Starcraft podcast around. Incontrol is a comedy genius! | ||
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
On September 30 2010 17:50 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Was never a matter of "trashing" him. It was always just a recommendation to a super star who is young and new to traveling for tourneys. Obviously on our show we don't have a Jerry Springer final thought where we explain cordially why it is bad to wear a hood.. we had some laughs. He will be a guest and I will probably tease him about it. If you listen to the SOTG you probably wouldn't be surprised by that or "dare" me to "trash" him It's almost a given.Believe me I listen and I laugh, can't wait for that day to come. To come, Artosis unknown child offspring HuK on the rise? Also can't wait to listen to the Nony took Huks place in the ladder discussion when he's a guest there and the bashing at the people that will come with it :D | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
And also, have the other panelists be quiet during this interview. It distracts so much from the concept if they chime in and answer "for" the interviewees, or make remarks immediately after they replied. Couldn't disagree more. The comments made the lightning round worth listening to. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
Having two guests is kinda overkill, especially when they're not really experts in the same field. Idra + TLO might work better as a guest duo, if the topic was TvZ balance or "foreigners at the GSL". Also, from a technical standpoint, a good method of ensuring sound quality is to have the conversation on Skype but have the regulars actually record their audio track locally, then send the MP3s to be mixed in Audacity or Audition or whatever you're using. Guests can still be recorded off Skype. Obviously that's more work for everyone, and I don't personally mind the sound quality that much, but it's still the easiest way to have a somewhat more professional result and avoid the audio levels issue (since you can equalize the volume of each panelist). | ||
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sickoota
Canada918 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 30 2010 18:56 sickoota wrote: Huk just seemed like a bit of a joker. Entertainment isn't entertaining because of professionalism - its entertaining because of people. Big sports have rich good looking men with a fashion line who gets caught fighting dogs and it looks like we have a short dude wearing a hood up and hugging a pillow. Its all good. not really, since being awkward or weird on stage just furthers the socially inept nerd stereotypes that hold back gaming in the west. | ||
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
On September 30 2010 19:00 IdrA wrote: not really, since being awkward or weird on stage just furthers the socially inept nerd stereotypes that hold back gaming in the west. Sorry, this is very evil But on that note MorroW has one up on you from the ESL final stage :D ![[image loading]](http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5872/idrapimp.jpg) Wouldn't expect you to give that comment but I do agree with your statement. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On September 30 2010 18:56 sickoota wrote: Big sports have rich good looking men with a fashion line who gets caught fighting dogs and it looks like we have a short dude wearing a hood up and hugging a pillow. Its all good. Surely you mean big sports has steroid-infused meatheads who sound like Minnie Mouse and bite people's ears off? EDIT: Regarding the random T&A, this is just dumb on the part of the organizers. Starcraft doesn't need random models in Daisy Dukes. It's so out of place it's ridiculous. Can you imagine those chicks at a chess tournament? | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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lynx.oblige
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
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