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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 14 2010 22:32 GMT
#7181
6 exactly
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 22:58:19
December 14 2010 22:37 GMT
#7182
JP / SOTG pillars: If you're doing a live show, can you please post the date & time? All I see is a twitter giving a day of the week.

ETA: Ok well I see this now:

On December 15 2010 07:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
6 exactly


http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=December 15 2010 07:32 KST + 6 hours

Buried inside a 400 page thread isn't the best place though. Update OP? Twitter? Update blogspot site?

MarineKingPrime Forever!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 23:54:51
December 14 2010 22:45 GMT
#7183
On November 11 2010 03:27 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 02:50 dizzy101 wrote:
Tyler is correct (and has the most common sense). Double-elimination bracket with extended series is the best way to APPROXIMATE a ranking of players in a limited number of games.

Idra and Incontrol seem to be arguing: tournaments are imperfect in creating a ranking, therefore their goal is not to create a ranking. This is not a good argument. Day9's math-impaired dice analogy was besides the point.

If tournaments are not to rank players, why not flip a coin to determine the winner? Or shortest straw?

actually the argument was that there is no practical way to determine a ranking given a weekend of games, and that any method that attempts that is so hilariously flawed its not worthwhile.

but that aside the extended series doesnt even contribute to establishing a decent ranking. if you come back to play someone again in the losers bracket that means youve beaten a bunch of people that he hasnt, and that he has lost to someone that you havent. whos to say that the original winner is the better player in those circumstances?
yes it feels shitty to be eliminated by someone you had a winning record on, but its also pretty shitty to be eliminated by someone who then goes on to lose to someone you beat earlier in the tournament. you can't just look at each individual pair of players when its a competition between 128 players.

plus the extended series creates a few stupid scenarios, for instance in dc i was rooting for huk to make it through instead of select, even though i had better odds vs select, simply because i already had a 2-0 lead on huk. that strikes me as kind of wrong. also, in dallas jinro went into the finals 2-1 on tt1 in a bo7. had they not played tt1 would have had to win 2 bo3's to jinro's 1. this means jinro actually had less of an advantage in the finals because he had already beaten tt1 earlier in the tournament.

the purpose of this kind of tournament is to see who wins the tournament. as such the rules should be focused on producing a fair competition. extended series dont do that, and in some cases are actually counter productive.


yea but id rather play 2 bo3s rather than an extended series in the finals because the results get wiped out after the 1st series(unlike an extended series which is continual), if he wins 2 games in 2 bo3 series he could still end up losing the match if it goes 1-2 1-2, it gives the other player more of a margin for error unlike with the extended series
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LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
December 14 2010 22:51 GMT
#7184
On December 15 2010 07:37 KillerDucky wrote:
JP / SOTG pillars: If you're doing a live show, can you please post the date & time? All I see is a twitter giving a day of the week.

ETA: Ok well I see this now:

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 07:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
6 exactly


http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=07:32 KST + 6 hours

Buried inside a 400 page thread isn't the best place though. Update OP? Twitter? Update blogspot site?



I found the Date from their actual Cast Channel http://www.ustream.tv/channel/state-of-the-game

I agree need more Information. Hope their is a Pre-Show again.

Hell hope I can stay awake for a Live.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
gaston116
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden73 Posts
December 14 2010 23:03 GMT
#7185
I cant w8 longer, opening the first beer now...
Nik0
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 23:10:20
December 14 2010 23:07 GMT
#7186
On December 15 2010 08:03 gaston116 wrote:
I cant w8 longer, opening the first beer now...

beer != alcohol...
why not real alcohol?
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
December 14 2010 23:19 GMT
#7187
On December 15 2010 08:07 Nik0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 08:03 gaston116 wrote:
I cant w8 longer, opening the first beer now...

beer != alcohol...
why not real alcohol?


i personally just drink straight up alcohol. no additives needed
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
Cleomenes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States138 Posts
December 15 2010 00:08 GMT
#7188
Can anyone restream the cast through Owned or Livestream? I'm at work and ustream is blocked but these other two aren't.
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
December 15 2010 00:31 GMT
#7189
so uh, whens it comin on?
Vexin
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania84 Posts
December 15 2010 00:33 GMT
#7190
4 Hours from now.
Don't be so humble, you're not that great.
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
December 15 2010 00:40 GMT
#7191
On December 15 2010 09:33 Vexin wrote:
4 Hours from now.


fuuuu i wanted to listen to it in the airport. ill catch it in london i hope. thx
pkaok23
Profile Joined December 2010
Afghanistan9 Posts
December 15 2010 00:47 GMT
#7192
might have a drink to join in the festivities
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 01:31:13
December 15 2010 00:55 GMT
#7193
Ignore my post
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 01:06:22
December 15 2010 01:05 GMT
#7194
On December 15 2010 07:37 KillerDucky wrote:
JP / SOTG pillars: If you're doing a live show, can you please post the date & time? All I see is a twitter giving a day of the week.

ETA: Ok well I see this now:

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 07:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
6 exactly


http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=December 15 2010 07:32 KST + 6 hours

Buried inside a 400 page thread isn't the best place though. Update OP? Twitter? Update blogspot site?




Doesn't seem like too bad of an idea, although I'm just happy that they're casting live now.

I can imagine though with having to balance 4 different people's schedules the exact time might have to be a bit more fluidic than normal.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
December 15 2010 01:31 GMT
#7195
Can someone please, please, please record the pre-show (if there is one)?
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
December 15 2010 01:52 GMT
#7196
I plan to record the pre-show for my personal enjoyment, but of course if the content owners are fine with it, I'll happily share.
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itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
December 15 2010 01:59 GMT
#7197
I just took the stream live, iNcontrol isn't on yet though but might be in a little bit.

uStream.TV
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LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
December 15 2010 02:00 GMT
#7198
JP could you write down all the drinking rules again plz
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
December 15 2010 02:22 GMT
#7199
yay, can't wait for this its going to be to funny. I wish i could play but its finals week and ill be at work while listening to it, so its a double no no
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
December 15 2010 02:32 GMT
#7200
2 more hours.
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