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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 14 2011 05:35 GMT
#37861
Not gonna lie, this SOTG has been basically the same as it normally has been. The hosts need to drink some more asap.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
December 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#37862
@InControl, was Idra being serious about Cella coming on the show drunk? We could see the skype for a second over your video feed. If so please put him on!
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
December 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#37863
Tyler just articulated exactly what i thought of the Naniwa situation beautifully. God i love that guy and the cut of his tongue.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
December 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#37864
agrees 100% with Incontrol
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#37865
Yeah I think all points on both sides have been addressed by now.
mtvacuum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States979 Posts
December 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#37866
Very well said Incontrol, very well said.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
December 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#37867
On December 14 2011 14:35 SpectralFremen wrote:
Geoff hits the nail on the head 100%.


yeah he does. should be drunk every episode.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#37868
pretty sure his sponsors and his name are being talked about 900,000 times more than if he played a normal game and even ended up winning. exposure seems to be the #1 goal for esports sponsors right now and you can't buy the attention naniwa is getting lately.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
CarlCaliente
Profile Joined July 2010
53 Posts
December 14 2011 05:37 GMT
#37869
On December 14 2011 14:35 Dubzex wrote:
Not gonna lie, this SOTG has been basically the same as it normally has been. The hosts need to drink some more asap.


Agreed. Went into this hoping for an usual, exceptional SotG. Instead got another mediocre show with the usual dick sucking and boring commentary. Disappointing.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 14 2011 05:37 GMT
#37870
I agree with incontrol
for all the shit he gets he's the man and makes a lot of sense
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
December 14 2011 05:37 GMT
#37871
On December 14 2011 14:30 MetalLobster wrote:
Tyler was on the ball with the Naniwa argument.


yea except Incontrol completely stomped him
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
December 14 2011 05:37 GMT
#37872
I think Tyler is wrong about only caring about tournament results, because finishing 4th instead of 5th is a better "tournament result." Say there was a 3rd place match that wasn't worth anymore money wouldn't you play it out for the better result?
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
December 14 2011 05:37 GMT
#37873
Tournaments should also add in a rule so that Naniwa can't cheat and look at a replay in a replayed game.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 14 2011 05:37 GMT
#37874
On December 14 2011 14:31 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 14:29 StarStruck wrote:
Lip service/dishonorable to not try regardless.

By making people think that you tried is no better. :/

If by try you mean reveal w/e serious strategy (whether player/map/timing abusive) then no, you're wrong if you think Nani OR Nestea should've brought that out.


I'm not talking about serious strategy. The game had no ramifications on anything. It changes nothing. It shouldn't have been played at all because it was inconsequential.

I much rather have them cancel it.

I don't want to see players play half-ass. I will skip it every time if I think they are going to throw a match.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14075 Posts
December 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#37875
The show jumped the shark I think. They've been on the same uninteresting topic for way to long. I can't really rewatch this episode after this whole naniwa topic. Really loved the start of it too.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
December 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#37876
On December 14 2011 14:37 skrzmark wrote:
I think Tyler is wrong about only caring about tournament results, because finishing 4th instead of 5th is a better "tournament result." Say there was a 3rd place match that wasn't worth anymore money wouldn't you play it out for the better result?


He wants to win the tournament. I don't think Naniwa sees a distinction between 8th place and 16th place.
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
December 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#37877
Makes such a good point

and then shits on his own good point by telling us what to think and what others say about an issue is wrong...
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 05:44:00
December 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#37878
Agree with Artosis, pride definitely played its part (along with sheer exhaustion, of course).

But at the same time, I disagree people will discount the loss as not a real loss. It is a real loss, even if it's more of a psychological loss in an unimportant game. But still, Nestea wasn't the one who forfeited, so he deserved winning his 4th place. To me this loss in the 1v1s between the two of them counts, Naniwa was the weaker one this day.

What Naniwa won was the trolling game between them though, he probably felt like the moral winner.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
December 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#37879
On December 14 2011 14:32 Goibon wrote:
Naniwa has to look after Naniwa, and be himself. That's why i like him.


So you like a selfish prick? Glad majority of us dont agree with you....
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
December 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#37880
I don't always agree with incontrol but that was a damn good answer, 100% on it
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