EPThopefully some ppl realize it now and do not refer to the "100 muta vs 100 phoenix" youtube video... whoever does this doesnt understand PvZ at all.
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
hopefully some ppl realize it now and do not refer to the "100 muta vs 100 phoenix" youtube video... whoever does this doesnt understand PvZ at all. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:30 Dommk wrote: Maybe you should actually listen to what they said, they said if you were already making Phoenix then it was fine but Phoenix as a reaction was terrible, virtually every Protoss in Masters or above will tell you the same They mentioned they don´t like going stargate against Muta at all too. Unless I misunderstood them | ||
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:28 XRaDiiX wrote: So much QQ'ing on SOTG about Zerg >< Damn Protoss. They crying about Mutalisks LOL... just saw Cocoa Lose to FXOoz with a 1 stargate phoenix choro'ed out when he went mutalisks... Cocoa lost lik 20 mutalisks to 8-10 phoenixes... And they were saying u need 3 stargates... hope they were being sarcastic! You weren't listening closely. They were saying it's very hard to go reactive phoenixes in response to Muta. It's possible with opening stargate and already having a phoenix count to build upon, which is what Oz did and the reason inControl is opening stargate in his PvZ. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:31 windsupernova wrote: Hahaha I was watching that too and was like ¨WTF¨ when they said you needed 3 stargates phoenix to beat Mutas.Phoenix do pretty well against Mutas you clearly werent listening to them, they said you need that if you're going REACTIVE phoenix if you are already going phoenix its fine | ||
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:32 windsupernova wrote: They mentioned they don´t like going stargate against Muta at all too. Unless I misunderstood them You definitely misunderstood considering they said its fine if you have 3 or 4 pheonix to continue building off, but throwing down a stargate and pumping pheonix after the mutas are out and harassing isnt ideal. | ||
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:33 RedDragon571 wrote: JP seemed like he didn't like the strategy segment. I think its frankly cause JP doesn't understand the complexities of the game because hes a kind of a noob at starcraft, which is kind of a travesty. If your going to spend so much time with starcraft, at least try to play it at a high level, its not that hard to get into at least diamond. Isn't he masters? | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:30 Russano wrote: THey were talking about reactive phoenix, not preemptive phoenix. It's hard to tech switch for a lot of people, but I seriously don't think this is a major problem when you have hallucinate and obs to scout. Zergs aren't exactly the hardest race to read. Yeah, go figure you can lose if you don't know your opponent's tech. | ||
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Kharnage
Australia920 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:28 XRaDiiX wrote: So much QQ'ing on SOTG about Zerg >< Damn Protoss. They crying about Mutalisks LOL... just saw Cocoa Lose to FXOoz with a 1 stargate phoenix choro'ed out when he went mutalisks... Cocoa lost lik 20 mutalisks to 8-10 phoenixes... And they were saying u need 3 stargates... hope they were being sarcastic! Depends on how they go muta. if they go 3 base, get a spire and pop 21 mutas you need 3 stargates to chrono out enough pheonix to deal with it in an emergency. if protoss opened FFE into stargate and was building up phoenixes from the start and then zerg makes a flock of mutas the protoss will be fine. Mind you, if you're doing that and the zerg goes mutas they are stupid. Just get infester and fungal those little phoenix (see tyler at last MLG) So reactively you need 3 stargate and chrono, | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:33 RedDragon571 wrote: JP seemed like he didn't like the strategy segment. I think its frankly cause JP doesn't understand the complexities of the game because hes a kind of a noob at starcraft, which is kind of a travesty. If your going to spend so much time with starcraft, at least try to play it at a high level, its not that hard to get into at least diamond. he's in masters, you say crap while knowing nothing yourself? | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:33 RedDragon571 wrote: JP seemed like he didn't like the strategy segment. I think its frankly cause JP doesn't understand the complexities of the game because hes a kind of a noob at starcraft, which is kind of a travesty. If your going to spend so much time with starcraft, at least try to play it at a high level, its not that hard to get into at least diamond. JP is mid masters, he is quite good at SC2. But I still think you are on to something with the general idea of your post. mid masters is a long way from pro-gamer. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:33 RedDragon571 wrote: JP seemed like he didn't like the strategy segment. I think its frankly cause JP doesn't understand the complexities of the game because hes a kind of a noob at starcraft, which is kind of a travesty. If your going to spend so much time with starcraft, at least try to play it at a high level, its not that hard to get into at least diamond. Isn´t JP like Masters as Random? But oh well lol masters | ||
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Archontas
United States319 Posts
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BrodiaQ
United States892 Posts
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bonedOUT
United States140 Posts
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
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unit
United States2621 Posts
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delo
United States333 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:33 RedDragon571 wrote: JP seemed like he didn't like the strategy segment. I think its frankly cause JP doesn't understand the complexities of the game because hes a kind of a noob at starcraft, which is kind of a travesty. If your going to spend so much time with starcraft, at least try to play it at a high level, its not that hard to get into at least diamond. I think JP was just trying to move the show along + naturally-occurring awkwardness. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:31 windsupernova wrote: Hahaha I was watching that too and was like ¨WTF¨ when they said you needed 3 stargates phoenix to beat Mutas.Phoenix do pretty well against Mutas Exactly i just had a few Protoss Attack me for my Remarks.... LOL . I'm starting to hate how biased SOTG is for Protoss Since there is 3 Protoss there. Zerg is clearly the UnderDog slightly in the Match-up so i don't understand why they complaining about Zerg so much they should be crying about Terran. What i don't get is how come they cry about Zerg so much Protoss usually do quite well against Zerg unless you are godly like Nestea or July... or any other really good Zergs... Force Fields are good! | ||
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