Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1597

On September 26 2011 04:02 ronpaul012 wrote:
I feel as if people who really want a European are kind of missing the point of SOTG. It seems to me, that JP wants the show to be more of a relaxed conversation from whatever the guests want to talk about. Throwing a European in there just so 1 person will know the scene won't accomplish anything. If there's only 1 guy who really knows the European scene, players, and tournaments, then it will defeat the purpose. It takes 2 to tango.

Maybe I'm wrong, but just throwing somebody in there so he can talk about Europeans will be weird. Look at the hosts. All of them (minus JP) played SC BW. They've known each other for years. They've seen the ups and downs. Now, if JP can find a European who's known these guys for years, is extremely familiar with both the NA and European scene, gets along well with the other hosts, and is willing to stay up all night to be on the show, then yes add him. But if not, I personally feel it will just make the show extremely awkward.

On September 22 2011 05:30 jinixxx123 wrote:
this show is going downhill in my view and gets worst every week so i hope you guys accept this as constructive criticism.


- Jp constantly distracts serious topics for mentioning crap like overlays and who's connected /not connected. This is quite serious, because im getting the impression hes not even listening to whats being said. If you have a host that isnt listening to his guests and is more concerned about other things it shows a true lack of passion and degrades any conversation to a joke.


-artosis is completely oblivious to anything not code S related, for god sake naniwa was fighting for his code A survival during the cast and none of them seemed to know that, then artosis says GOM gives sage a free spot ... what the hell??, then he says that basically every sc2 player is crap referring to our best is MVP like if thats a joke.

-the end of each state of the game is now called State of Broodwar, a completely irrelevant topic for the majority of viewers. We all know a talk about broodwar usually ends up in a Starcraft 2 bashfest because their is alot of comparing going on. The chat for state of the game during the broodwar talk also showed that they could not give a rats ass to hear all this and were talking about other things.

-These round robin questions were not so prevalent in earlier state of the games that made this show great, Right now its like all you hear. The same points get restated.





What can be done to make the show better?

-more passion
-less sc2 bashing
-less round robin questions
-more actual game talk about recent strat trends or balance
-more controversial guests = put on an idra , having all protoss viewpoints suck.


Currently Inside the game is way better than this show, No fluff, straight to the point .

On September 26 2011 05:30 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Don't know if I should post here. Some german progamers have done a similar thing to state of the game. The videoformat is pretty new and its only in german unfortunately but for those who didnt know: http://www.sc2pro.de/?p=1018

Darkforce, Socke, Hasuobs and Delphi discussing all kinds of things about the scene with Rine as host.

On September 26 2011 05:36 TooN wrote:
Tyler picked Socke to win his group?

Bold prediction.

On September 26 2011 04:02 ronpaul012 wrote:
I feel as if people who really want a European are kind of missing the point of SOTG. It seems to me, that JP wants the show to be more of a relaxed conversation from whatever the guests want to talk about. Throwing a European in there just so 1 person will know the scene won't accomplish anything. If there's only 1 guy who really knows the European scene, players, and tournaments, then it will defeat the purpose. It takes 2 to tango.

Maybe I'm wrong, but just throwing somebody in there so he can talk about Europeans will be weird. Look at the hosts. All of them (minus JP) played SC BW. They've known each other for years. They've seen the ups and downs. Now, if JP can find a European who's known these guys for years, is extremely familiar with both the NA and European scene, gets along well with the other hosts, and is willing to stay up all night to be on the show, then yes add him. But if not, I personally feel it will just make the show extremely awkward.

On September 26 2011 04:50 Astro-Penguin wrote:


Its clearly evident that through their casting, play and discussion that each of these individuals has lost their passion for the game along time ago. This is just one of the many factors that will contribute to the inevitable downfall of E Sports as a whole ruining it for many generations to come.

On September 22 2011 05:21 DiaBoLuS wrote:


they have absouletly no idea who lucifron is. the plays for 4 weeks a year and in the meantime he doesnt even touch sc2 and concentrates on studying.
so this time, he came and raped everyone again. 2 weeks before dreamhack, he continued his study and didnt focus on the game too much again - ofc he practices because of his invite, but its just not the same.

He is simply one of the greatest talents there is on this planet, if they knew anythin gabout wc3 or him as a person they would know that. They judge from 2 maps they saw form this guy vs motherfuckin DRG - how fair is that?

On September 26 2011 06:19 Euronyme wrote:


I don't even understand those arguments. If one person has a better understanding of the scene that would ruin the show? So what artosis has been doing with his superior knowledge of the Korean scene is actually secretly undermining the show for his own vague, evil purposes?
I call bullshit on that one.
Naniwa, DeMuslim and TLO went on and made great shows imo.
I just get a feeling alot of people are trying to make it more complicated than it really is.
To me it's not that big of a deal to be honest. I quite like the Europe trolling on sotg. Having a European guest isn't exactly the end of the world though, as some make it out to be.

On September 26 2011 05:36 Choboo wrote:

That sounds awesome, wish it was available in European instead of German tho ^^. (JK, but English would be nice)

On September 26 2011 07:03 Hatorade wrote:
The whole reason SOTG is interesting to me at least is because of the chemistry between the hosts. I'm not necessarily looking for them to be experts on every tournament and player, and to give me recaps on everything. There are other shows for that, what I enjoy about SOTG is how its evident Incontrol, Artosis, Tyler, Day9 and JP are all good friends. They've played with and against each other for years and not only are they comfortable joking around with each other but each of them brings something to the show. The fact that they are pros/former pros/casters is a bonus and adds a little extra relevance(at least for me) when they talk about the game.

Ultimately I watch SOTG to hear Incontrol make fun of everything under the sun,see Artosis be...Artosis, watch Tyler sit quietly for 15-20 minutes then drop the Knowledge bomb, to hear Day9 giggle and laugh for over half the show then pick Select or Boxer to win everything regardless of if they're in the tournament or not, and to hear JP hit all the drama related topics then awkwardly transition out of them while bitching about fixing the overlay the whole time.

I feel like some of you watch this show JUST so you can come on here and complain about something. SOTG is a fun laid back show where you get to see everyone's personalities featured and just have a good time and I hope it stays that way.

On September 26 2011 04:02 ronpaul012 wrote:
I feel as if people who really want a European are kind of missing the point of SOTG. It seems to me, that JP wants the show to be more of a relaxed conversation from whatever the guests want to talk about. Throwing a European in there just so 1 person will know the scene won't accomplish anything. If there's only 1 guy who really knows the European scene, players, and tournaments, then it will defeat the purpose. It takes 2 to tango.

Maybe I'm wrong, but just throwing somebody in there so he can talk about Europeans will be weird. Look at the hosts. All of them (minus JP) played SC BW. They've known each other for years. They've seen the ups and downs. Now, if JP can find a European who's known these guys for years, is extremely familiar with both the NA and European scene, gets along well with the other hosts, and is willing to stay up all night to be on the show, then yes add him. But if not, I personally feel it will just make the show extremely awkward.

Its clearly evident that through their casting, play and discussion that each of these individuals has lost their passion for the game along time ago. This is just one of the many factors that will contribute to the inevitable downfall of E Sports as a whole ruining it for many generations to come.