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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:44 Senx wrote: Yeah its kind of like they're trying to match the excessive whining in this thread, weird isn't it? Definitely I don't see how some people find these eu "jokes" racist or offensive in any way. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
Imagine 2GD making similar jokes about NA. Then realize that they're just jokes. Then move on. | ||
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LagT_T
Argentina535 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:22 Longshank wrote: I think this EU vs SotG thing comes down to jealousy from both sides. Eu is jealous of NA for not being able to produce shows like SotG etc(language barrier within EU) and NA, and Incontrol and Tyler in particular, is jealous of the quality of players EU has produced through a much more competitive scene. Yeah they were joking, and it was fun at first, but they've done it for such a long time now that the comical value is rapidly diminishing and you get a feeling of bitterness. What? EU has its own podcast, please do your research before posting moronic comments. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
That video is awesome! | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
I like Tyler's statement about DRG vs Lucifron. Very well said sir. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
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riff
United States113 Posts
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Narfinger
53 Posts
The same happend this time with ghost vs templar and the immortal. He didn't say anything about how the immortal could force more marines which perhaps makes storm easier or anything. He just wanted to state that protoss is still underpowered in his opinion. And before anyone says Idra does this all the time, if you start a balance discussion with idra he has always points you can discuss with him, not just blind statements. But like I said, this could all just be my bias speaking. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:05 Narfinger wrote: Aside from the european jokes (which got just repeated too much in my opinion) I have kind of another problem with Incontrol. Maybe it is just me and my obvious bias but I really start to dislike Incontrols passive balance comments. Always: "look how many protoss in gsl are oh there are not any", "look how balanced templar vs ghosts are". Not saying that he obviously thinks it is imbalanced but he also don't want to discuss something with it. He doesn't go and say, "hey, we should discuss ghosts vs templar/protoss army, what are the problems, why do they exists and how can we fix it". The same happend this time with ghost vs templar and the immortal. He didn't say anything about how the immortal could force more marines which perhaps makes storm easier or anything. He just wanted to state that protoss is still underpowered in his opinion. And before anyone says Idra does this all the time, if you start a balance discussion with idra he has always points you can discuss with him, not just blind statements. But like I said, this could all just be my bias speaking. I think iNcontrol does that more because of how quickly balance talks can SPIRAL out of control and they have other things to talk about. Yes, its called State of the Game, but they talk about a lot of things and DONT have all the time in the world to spend on everything. If anything that is what I like THE MOST about iNcontrol on the show. He really does try to keep it moving in the right direction rather than sitting on one topic for the whole show. I see nothing wrong with that frankly. | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:05 Narfinger wrote: Aside from the european jokes (which got just repeated too much in my opinion) I have kind of another problem with Incontrol. Maybe it is just me and my obvious bias but I really start to dislike Incontrols passive balance comments. Always: "look how many protoss in gsl are oh there are not any", "look how balanced templar vs ghosts are". Not saying that he obviously thinks it is imbalanced but he also don't want to discuss something with it. He doesn't go and say, "hey, we should discuss ghosts vs templar/protoss army, what are the problems, why do they exists and how can we fix it". The same happend this time with ghost vs templar and the immortal. He didn't say anything about how the immortal could force more marines which perhaps makes storm easier or anything. He just wanted to state that protoss is still underpowered in his opinion. And before anyone says Idra does this all the time, if you start a balance discussion with idra he has always points you can discuss with him, not just blind statements. But like I said, this could all just be my bias speaking. I think you might be confusing idra with some other land mammal. | ||
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
I it's almost like sitting around with friends and talking about stuff you really enjoy. Keep up the awesome show and I for one will always watch the VoDs | ||
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Narfinger
53 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:10 yawnoC wrote: I think iNcontrol does that more because of how quickly balance talks can SPIRAL out of control and they have other things to talk about. Yes, its called State of the Game, but they talk about a lot of things and DONT have all the time in the world to spend on everything. If anything that is what I like THE MOST about iNcontrol on the show. He really does try to keep it moving in the right direction rather than sitting on one topic for the whole show. I see nothing wrong with that frankly. I can understand if they don't want to make this show about balance talk or not having balance talk. But my point is more like this: If you want to discuss balance, then _discuss_ about balance. If you don't want to do it, then don't do it. I just really don't like it that he wants to get the balance talk in without bringing any real arguments. For example look at the current decline of protoss in gsl. Artosis is capable of discussing this with giving reasons why the previous heros are not as good anymore. Incontrol just stated the fact, with the implicitly given explanation that protoss is underpowered. Also if SotG should be about balance or not is a different topic and with the discussion about patches they obviously want to have both people happy. The one that want to have these discussions and the one who are bored by them. Regarding Idra: Yes his protoss view is very biased and I didn't watch alot of balance discussions with him recently, so I am not very well informed. But in the past he at least tries to give arguments. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:15 flodeskum wrote: I think you might be confusing idra with some other land mammal. Idra often has amazing points in regards to balance when every other Zerg is thinking the same as him. Unfortunately, his hatred vs Protoss is simply hatred atm. | ||
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:35 ShadezOwnage wrote: we do not claim to be professionals. Anyone can joke about any player, it does not matter if they are capable of taking games off them. It just has nothing to do with it. Anyone can also say "that guy sucks ass at Starcraft", even if that's a rude thing to say. It still doesn't matter if the person saying it is better at the game than them. Those are two entirely non-related statements/facts, you see. As long as they are not saying "I could beat that guy at Starcraft", it does not matter whether they could or not. The Europeans here with their idiotic regional pride bullshit would make me ashamed had I had any reason to associate myself with you. Don't be so stuck up, everyone fucks around all the time. | ||
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tWuKrameR
Canada3 Posts
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:19 Micket wrote: Idra often has amazing points in regards to balance when every other Zerg is thinking the same as him. Unfortunately, his hatred vs Protoss is simply hatred atm. I was listening to an old sotg episode recently where he gave some really nice insights into tvz and that was back when tvz was extremely terran favored. So he can probably be very reasonable. But I have never heard him say anything sensible about protoss, in SC2 or in BW. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
Thank ye kindly good sir | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:19 Narfinger wrote: but they never really started to talk about balance deeply so I don't understand why you are worried about it. I would understand if they started talking deeply about balance but they didn't. They skimmed over the patch notes -but they haven't played enough games on it so ATM it is just them theory crafting which means NOTHING- and iNcontrol made a joke when artosis made the joke that soon there will only be 1 protoss and 1 zerg left. I just think you are over thinking it and making to much out of it.I can understand if they don't want to make this show about balance talk or not having balance talk. But my point is more like this: If you want to discuss balance, then _discuss_ about balance. If you don't want to do it, then don't do it. I just really don't like it that he wants to get the balance talk in without bringing any real arguments. For example look at the current decline of protoss in gsl. Artosis is capable of discussing this with giving reasons why the previous heros are not as good anymore. Incontrol just stated the fact, with the implicitly given explanation that protoss is underpowered. Also if SotG should be about balance or not is a different topic and with the discussion about patches they obviously want to have both people happy. The one that want to have these discussions and the one who are bored by them. Regarding Idra: Yes his protoss view is very biased and I didn't watch alot of balance discussions with him recently, so I am not very well informed. But in the past he at least tries to give arguments. | ||
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Tanith
United Kingdom108 Posts
Also you said in the show that the majority of listeners are from the US, by what margin as i bet its close, in all honesty i thought the reverse would of been true... however i could be and probably am completely wrong. Anyway, I love the show just drop the EU bashing it stopped being funny months ago. | ||
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