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On September 14 2011 21:06 ronpaul012 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players. Wait, your mad because all the pro's from America don't know your minor EU players. Oh, your totally right, why wouldn't the pros waste their time studying players they've never played before. How Ignorant of them! Why you no waste more time???
except calling lucifrom minor is bullshit. Beastyqt for example (a teammate of Kas) stated, that he thinks Lucifron is at least on the same level as Kas atm, maybe even better. And if a player like Tyler, who i would bet 10€ is not able to even win a map vs. Luci in a bo7 is not giving him respect, yes i'm mad.
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On September 14 2011 21:02 MrBitter wrote:
Lucifron is incredible.
So is Kas, Strelok, Sjow, and Tarson.
Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, and Dimaga
Mana, Nightend, Hasu, and Socke
European scene is incredibly deep, and it makes me sad that SotG doesn't show it more love.
Would love to volunteer myself (or more appropriately, Rotterdam) to come drop some truth bombs.
I know you read these posts, JP. Show EU some love, bro!
Wait till the EU Qualifier for MLG next year, and JP will be forced to talk about EU to hype MLG since EU and KR will win everything. Until then, only us EU fans and inhabitants and the netizen who have too much time will be able to enjoy the plays of the like of Mana, Stephano or Socke (sry protoss and french bias here).
Until then, SOTG will be US centric 'cause their host are US (+KR) centric and they don't have the time to watch EU tournaments. Only Artosis seems to try to follow the EU, but everytime he tries to bring it up, people won't listen to him.
The other reason is that most of the EU esport fans are russian or german native speaker and they will not be that interested by the show or stream anyway.
The show is still fun but I don't listen to it because of the knowledge or anything, but just 'cause I like the humor and Nony.
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On September 14 2011 21:10 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:06 ronpaul012 wrote:On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players. Wait, your mad because all the pro's from America don't know your minor EU players. Oh, your totally right, why wouldn't the pros waste their time studying players they've never played before. How Ignorant of them! Why you no waste more time??? This is the kind of silly stuff that people need to be more informed on. Those "minor" EU players are, in all honesty, vastly superior to most, not all, well known North American pros. I would really love to see a Europe vs. North America showmatch series. I think it would really open some eyes.
LOL get out of here troll. There not vastly superior, or they'd actually be playing in bigger tournaments. There the hipsters of Starcraft. You know, I like this player, but you've probably never heard of him. Then 1 out of 10 europeans you claim to be great will be. Then your all like, "I was watching him before he got 9th at MLG."
Note, I'm not saying Europeans suck. I'd go as far to say the best Europeans are probably overall better than the top Americans. However to say these minor players who don't compete in major tournaments and have like 2 good results in small ones are not as good.
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On September 14 2011 21:02 MrBitter wrote:
Lucifron is incredible.
So is Kas, Strelok, Sjow, and Tarson.
Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, and Dimaga
Mana, Nightend, Hasu, and Socke
European scene is incredibly deep, and it makes me sad that SotG doesn't show it more love.
Would love to volunteer myself (or more appropriately, Rotterdam) to come drop some truth bombs.
I know you read these posts, JP. Show EU some love, bro!
that would be great!
I can't talk about yesterdays show since I didn't get a chance to watch it yet, but EU is left behind very often. Things like mlg (ok I get it, since JP is MLG employee) are getting very much attention, but European stuff doesn't really get noticed at all.
Mr. Bitter as a Stotg guest would be really great!
On September 14 2011 21:13 EvOr wrote:
The other reason is that most of the EU esport fans are russian or german native speaker and they will not be that interested by the show or stream anyway.
I don't know if it's true that most EU esports fans are russian or germans, but: why would "we" not be interested in Stotg? English is teached everywhere in Europe, and listening to a show like that is ofc interesting for "us"
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On September 14 2011 21:13 JayJay_90 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:06 ronpaul012 wrote:On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players. Wait, your mad because all the pro's from America don't know your minor EU players. Oh, your totally right, why wouldn't the pros waste their time studying players they've never played before. How Ignorant of them! Why you no waste more time??? except calling lucifrom minor is bullshit. Beastyqt for example (a teammate of Kas) stated, that he thinks Lucifron is at least on the same level as Kas atm, maybe even better. And if a player like Tyler, who i would bet 10€ is not able to even win a map vs. Luci in a bo7 is not giving him respect, yes i'm mad.
Cool story bro, some other random European who has won, or even done well in nothing says another European who hasn't done anything Internationally is good. That means a lot.
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On September 14 2011 21:15 ronpaul012 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:10 MrBitter wrote:On September 14 2011 21:06 ronpaul012 wrote:On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players. Wait, your mad because all the pro's from America don't know your minor EU players. Oh, your totally right, why wouldn't the pros waste their time studying players they've never played before. How Ignorant of them! Why you no waste more time??? This is the kind of silly stuff that people need to be more informed on. Those "minor" EU players are, in all honesty, vastly superior to most, not all, well known North American pros. I would really love to see a Europe vs. North America showmatch series. I think it would really open some eyes. LOL get out of here troll. There not vastly superior, or they'd actually be playing in bigger tournaments. There the hipsters of Starcraft. You know, I like this player, but you've probably never heard of him. Then 1 out of 10 europeans you claim to be great will be. Then your all like, "I was watching him before he got 9th at MLG." Note, I'm not saying Europeans suck. I'd go as far to say the best Europeans are probably overall better than the top Americans. However to say these minor players who don't compete in major tournaments and have like 2 good results in small ones are not as good.
lol
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On September 14 2011 21:02 MrBitter wrote:
Lucifron is incredible.
So is Kas, Strelok, Sjow, and Tarson.
Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, and Dimaga
Mana, Nightend, Hasu, and Socke
European scene is incredibly deep, and it makes me sad that SotG doesn't show it more love.
Would love to volunteer myself (or more appropriately, Rotterdam) to come drop some truth bombs.
I know you read these posts, JP. Show EU some love, bro!
I get the impression that they aren't watching most tournaments in general, nothing to do with Europe in particular. They likely don't have the time to sit down and watch the EU scene when they're not even watching GSL closely. Most of what they talk about are players they have direct contact with at these events.
In fact... I think you and Rotterdam should make your own State of the Game and have some European pros on there. I'd definitely watch that. Go go! ^_^
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Tbh they don't even need to watch any tournaments. Just take a glance at the TLPD at the right side of this site.
EDIT: And the tournament roundup-articles.
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On September 14 2011 21:22 Quakie wrote:
Tbh they don't even need to watch any tournaments. Just take a glance at the TLPD at the right side of this site.
You sir just solved Sotg
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On September 14 2011 21:13 EvOr wrote:
Until then, SOTG will be US centric 'cause their host are US (+KR) centric and they don't have the time to watch EU tournaments. Only Artosis seems to try to follow the EU, but everytime he tries to bring it up, people won't listen to him.
The other reason is that most of the EU esport fans are russian or german native speaker and they will not be that interested by the show or stream anyway.
Nah, I think most of EU esport fans follow the US scene, too, the other way round I think it's a smaller percentage of US people who follow the EU scene closely. That goes for SOTG as well.
On September 14 2011 21:22 Quakie wrote:
Tbh they don't even need to watch any tournaments. Just take a glance at the TLPD at the right side of this site.
Well, TLPD has someone like NamhciR ahead of both LucifroN and DRG, so I wouldn't count too much on that.
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On September 14 2011 21:15 Tofugrinder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:13 EvOr wrote:
The other reason is that most of the EU esport fans are russian or german native speaker and they will not be that interested by the show or stream anyway. I don't know if it's true that most EU esports fans are russian or germans, but: why would "we" not be interested in Stotg? English is teached everywhere in Europe, and listening to a show like that is ofc interesting for "us"
Yeah, i agree, but from what i know of eastern Europe or just France, most people are not fluent enough in english to listen to a talk show without subtitles, or simply to commit 2 hours of focus listening to a talk show in english. I listen to sotg at work as if i was listening to a radio or something since i'm good at understanding english (not as good when it comes to writing it, sorry for that).
I think the majority of the people watching or downloading SOTG needs to be fluent enough to understand the jokes and everything interesting on SOTG : that's most of the time the parts where more than one people talk and it might be hard to follow if you're not good enough in english. And it's a big barrier to the show in Eastern Europe, and latin countries where good english is not that frequent, scandinavian and german speaking people are traditionnaly better at that.
I'm just basing this on what i know about russian + french starcraft community and I'd like J-P to share the numbers of where the views/downloads are from to see if I'm wrong but i don't think I am.
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I'm genuinely struggling to see how much criticism the cast gave to the all-star matches. It was clearly going be a dickabout thing, and the Koreans are regularity accused to basically being robots. Then they do something fun, and people are like "wtf is this? why are they doing something stupid?" In the same thinking, does that not make the TL Attack stupid? Both Tyler and Geoff did a TL attack back in BW for fun. Hell, that would make Funday Monday stupid as well. It just feels like such a double standard
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On September 14 2011 21:27 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:13 EvOr wrote:
Until then, SOTG will be US centric 'cause their host are US (+KR) centric and they don't have the time to watch EU tournaments. Only Artosis seems to try to follow the EU, but everytime he tries to bring it up, people won't listen to him.
The other reason is that most of the EU esport fans are russian or german native speaker and they will not be that interested by the show or stream anyway.
The show is still fun but I don't listen to it because of the knowledge or anything, but just 'cause I like the humor and Nony. Nah, I think most of EU esport fans follow the US scene, too, the other way round I think it's a smaller percentage of US people who follow the EU scene closely.
Are you sure ? I'd say EU fans follow mostly MLG (because it's awesome, looks like a real sport will all the people cheering), GSL + EU tournies since they happen at a time where we can watch it live (not 2am^^). Based on they guys i talk to on bnet, skype, mumble and IRL that's what i gather.
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On September 14 2011 21:15 ronpaul012 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:10 MrBitter wrote:On September 14 2011 21:06 ronpaul012 wrote:On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players. Wait, your mad because all the pro's from America don't know your minor EU players. Oh, your totally right, why wouldn't the pros waste their time studying players they've never played before. How Ignorant of them! Why you no waste more time??? This is the kind of silly stuff that people need to be more informed on. Those "minor" EU players are, in all honesty, vastly superior to most, not all, well known North American pros. I would really love to see a Europe vs. North America showmatch series. I think it would really open some eyes. Note, I'm not saying Europeans suck. I'd go as far to say the best Europeans are probably overall better than the top Americans.
GASP you'd go so far as to say THAT?
Its fairly common knowledge that NA is the worst skillwise out of NA/EU/KR. Not just among their respective best players, but overall too.
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On September 14 2011 21:15 ronpaul012 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:10 MrBitter wrote:On September 14 2011 21:06 ronpaul012 wrote:On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players. Wait, your mad because all the pro's from America don't know your minor EU players. Oh, your totally right, why wouldn't the pros waste their time studying players they've never played before. How Ignorant of them! Why you no waste more time??? This is the kind of silly stuff that people need to be more informed on. Those "minor" EU players are, in all honesty, vastly superior to most, not all, well known North American pros. I would really love to see a Europe vs. North America showmatch series. I think it would really open some eyes. LOL get out of here troll. There not vastly superior, or they'd actually be playing in bigger tournaments. There the hipsters of Starcraft. You know, I like this player, but you've probably never heard of him. Then 1 out of 10 europeans you claim to be great will be. Then your all like, "I was watching him before he got 9th at MLG." Note, I'm not saying Europeans suck. I'd go as far to say the best Europeans are probably overall better than the top Americans. However to say these minor players who don't compete in major tournaments and have like 2 good results in small ones are not as good.
This is the fucking funniest post I've read in fucking ages.
Can't believe MrBitter just got called a troll rofl.
amazing.
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On September 14 2011 21:17 ronpaul012 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:13 JayJay_90 wrote:On September 14 2011 21:06 ronpaul012 wrote:On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players. Wait, your mad because all the pro's from America don't know your minor EU players. Oh, your totally right, why wouldn't the pros waste their time studying players they've never played before. How Ignorant of them! Why you no waste more time??? except calling lucifrom minor is bullshit. Beastyqt for example (a teammate of Kas) stated, that he thinks Lucifron is at least on the same level as Kas atm, maybe even better. And if a player like Tyler, who i would bet 10€ is not able to even win a map vs. Luci in a bo7 is not giving him respect, yes i'm mad. Cool story bro, some other random European who has won, or even done well in nothing says another European who hasn't done anything Internationally is good. That means a lot.
Uhm...
And what have ALL the NA players together won in THIS ENTIRE YEAR (except Huk which is hard to count for obvious reasons)?
These "Minor"-EU players would be absolute top shots in the NA scene...
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I'm always confused about the whole 'SOTG doesn't know about EU' thing. I have never ever got that impression. In fact I remember a couple of weeks ago Tyler having a go at JP for making it sound like they don't know about EU players when it isn't true.
It's natural that the hosts would know the NA players better, because, and wait for it, they play on the fucking NA server. You know a player's style better when you play against them. But if someone mentions an NA player they don't know, everyone just moves on, but mention an EU player they don't know much about and it's all 'oh here we go, NA-centric SOTG, they could make the effort at least, gosh'.
On September 14 2011 21:02 MrBitter wrote:
Lucifron is incredible.
So is Kas, Strelok, Sjow, and Tarson.
Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, and Dimaga
Mana, Nightend, Hasu, and Socke
See this is what I don't get. I can remember times when they've talked about how good ALL of these players are. Every single one of them. Incontrol once said he idolised Hasu's play. As long ago as last week they had an extended section about Sjow's play.
Basically, I'm not seeing this huge EU blind spot everyone is.
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On September 14 2011 21:29 Hassybaby wrote:
I'm genuinely struggling to see how much criticism the cast gave to the all-star matches. It was clearly going be a dickabout thing, and the Koreans are regularity accused to basically being robots. Then they do something fun, and people are like "wtf is this? why are they doing something stupid?" In the same thinking, does that not make the TL Attack stupid? Both Tyler and Geoff did a TL attack back in BW for fun. Hell, that would make Funday Monday stupid as well. It just feels like such a double standard
As someone who had no idea it was a screw around kinda thing, I was genuinely interested in seeing a real game between Nestea and Huk and subsequently disappointed when I realized that it was a screw around event. I think the hosts summed up my feelings on it pretty well. The fact that it was "not real" made me feel robbed because I wanted to see competitive games between all those guys really.
If you look at it from a purely competitive standpoint, it's like... As a broadcaster, why would you waste this golden opportunity to get all these great players together and then just tell them to fuck around. It's not hard to see why competitors and spectators alike have a hard time liking watching these potentially awesome matches tainted by just telling them not to play seriously.
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On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players.
Yeah good call. It's really annoying. They really have no clue about them, calling LucifroN a 1 baser just because he may have a year ago lol. It's understandable to some extent in regards to LucifroN because LucifroN goes inactive regularly because of school, and has only really shot up and dominated in these tournaments somewhat recently, and when I was watching him decimate Nerchio, he stated he'd be going back to school soon, so he'll probably drop off the radar again.
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On September 14 2011 21:15 ronpaul012 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:10 MrBitter wrote:On September 14 2011 21:06 ronpaul012 wrote:On September 14 2011 20:27 Ragoo wrote:
Some EU rage:
I totally understand that you can't watch the small tournaments on EU and follow the scene really well.
But can't you find any person who is really knowledgeable about the EU scene? He doesn't need to be on the show with you, but he could give you at least some information on how to rank the EU players or latest results or something.
Like srsly, when you were talking about Lucifron you acted like he's one basing all the time (cause you only know him from beta when -everyone- was one basing all the time) and he's probably just bad. Everything you said about Lucifron was basically wrong and made up by you and imo you didn't even make clear that you just don't have a clue.
Lucifron is active again, he's top 10 grandmaster EU with a 389-120 record and lately he beat Mana 2-0, Stephano 2-0 and Nerchio 3-0 in a very very convincing non-cheesy fashion. Actually it looked like MMA or some other top level Korean macroing and multitasking all over the place and it was one of the most impressive Terran performances I have ever seen from an EU player.
Please note that your constant ignorance and misinformation about EU players is actually hurting the EU scene and players, cause despite the fact that there are many more good players on EU than on NA, you constantly ignore most of them and instead overhype worse NA players. Wait, your mad because all the pro's from America don't know your minor EU players. Oh, your totally right, why wouldn't the pros waste their time studying players they've never played before. How Ignorant of them! Why you no waste more time??? This is the kind of silly stuff that people need to be more informed on. Those "minor" EU players are, in all honesty, vastly superior to most, not all, well known North American pros. I would really love to see a Europe vs. North America showmatch series. I think it would really open some eyes. LOL get out of here troll. There not vastly superior, or they'd actually be playing in bigger tournaments. There the hipsters of Starcraft. You know, I like this player, but you've probably never heard of him. Then 1 out of 10 europeans you claim to be great will be. Then your all like, "I was watching him before he got 9th at MLG." Note, I'm not saying Europeans suck. I'd go as far to say the best Europeans are probably overall better than the top Americans. However to say these minor players who don't compete in major tournaments and have like 2 good results in small ones are not as good.
Every single one of those named EU players are better than almost every single NA professional. Not to turn this into NA vs EU by any means, but sometimes it's better to accept the truth than look like a moron.
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