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Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
August 02 2011 21:58 GMT
#28261
As much as I dislike Incontrol's behavior sometimes, the show has definitely been missing the back and forth discussions since he left and basically turned into a panel show. Would be great to see him back on the show tonight!
AustinCM
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada275 Posts
August 02 2011 22:02 GMT
#28262
is ItG on tonight?
"Somewhere, Something incredible is waiting to be known." -Carl Sagan
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
August 02 2011 22:10 GMT
#28263
On August 03 2011 07:02 AustinCM wrote:
is ItG on tonight?

djwheat is sick or can't talk anymore because of MLG (from his twitter). No Itg tonight
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
August 02 2011 22:11 GMT
#28264
On August 03 2011 06:40 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 06:15 Hardigan wrote:
On August 03 2011 06:01 Asymmetric wrote:
On August 03 2011 05:56 TrickyGilligan wrote:
On August 03 2011 05:54 Asymmetric wrote:
If It is Incontrol maybe there cleverer than we think.

Take the case in 1985 of New Coke. Take something away from people, then give the same product right back to them and hail it as a new exciting rebrandment. Insert *Hype, hype, hype* and suddenly your more popular than you orignally were with the extact same service.

I don't actually believe thats whats happened, clever if it is though.


Yeah, except that New Coke was a fucking disaster.

Oh wait, maybe they did take notes on it after all...


New coke was a massive success. It served its purpose amazingly.

Its purpose wasn't to sell New coke. Its purpose was to cause a massive boost in sales when they re-introduced coke classic due to everyone missing it. The whole forray was a net gain for coke-cola. Anyway I'm going a bit off-topic now and I doubt they're that fiendish.

so that's where Futurama got the Idea with Slurm...


Yeah. Thats in-joke at the end of that episode.

Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 06:20 EtohEtoh wrote:
No, No.

New Coke was supposed to be better than "old" Coke, they had done tests with a bunch of focus groups that showed that the majority enjoyed New Coke more than Old Coke AND Pepsi (the reason they came up with New Coke, to beat Pepsi). It's just that you can't judge the world purely on blind taste tests, there's otherfactors, like psychological and social psychological factors that change what the people like.

/Gladwell



Well your entitled to believe that. It was certainly what coke-cola fed to the public, and it may well even be true.

The net results whether intentional or not was huge gains for coke-cola in the aftermath of releasing an "inferior" product before re-releasing there old one and to quote the esteemed Dr Gregory House, "Results all that matter, not intentions".


If you insist on talking about this can you stop calling it coke-cola? Seems strange that you would try to act like an aficionado on the situation and you don't even know what it is called.

Anyway, Geoff back is tremendous. I can watch the show again!! For the people making the argument that Leah was great for the show since she watches more games than the rest of the people...that is a horrific argument. If that makes for a good pillar, then I'd apparently be fantastic on the show. The goal should be to help the talent watch more sc2 rather than keep someone wildly unqualified on just because they watched more games.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
KASPpraetorianGuard
Profile Joined April 2011
14 Posts
August 02 2011 22:13 GMT
#28265
On August 03 2011 07:02 AustinCM wrote:
is ItG on tonight?



Since inControl is coming back to SOTG DJ wheat is not allowed to have a show tonight.

User was warned for this post
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
August 02 2011 22:15 GMT
#28266
Probably no Artosis tonight because of Coda A quals.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 22:18:17
August 02 2011 22:18 GMT
#28267
Wtb idra. Am I the only one who thinks he's the most entertaining person on the show? (lol)

edit: not sarcasm
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 22:31:37
August 02 2011 22:29 GMT
#28268
On August 03 2011 07:11 Corrupted wrote:
If you insist on talking about this can you stop calling it coke-cola? Seems strange that you would try to act like an aficionado on the situation and you don't even know what it is called.


Mmmh... Never put trust in auto corrective spell checkers when typing in a hurry. Theres not a single person on the planet that doesn't know what that brand is.

___________


Honestly I expect it will probably be incontrol.

I suppose it could be an older broodwar player returning to the scene.
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
August 02 2011 22:35 GMT
#28269
Quitr sure its Inc. Just look at his recent twitter and the convo hr had with sundance. Well. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Koloss
Profile Joined July 2011
United States7 Posts
August 02 2011 22:47 GMT
#28270
Really hope its Incontrol
Tryxtira
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden572 Posts
August 02 2011 22:49 GMT
#28271
I really hope it's Geoff as well. He's just such a terrificly awesome dude! I love him! Mancrush!
Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
August 02 2011 22:51 GMT
#28272
Gosh if its geoff I will be soo fricken happy.
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
August 02 2011 23:04 GMT
#28273
yeah i love day 9 and all, but i have to agree he doesn't add that much to the show

he isn't currently a pro player so he doesn't have as much insight into the current sotg. worse, he typically hasn't watched a lot of the gsl matches, so even if he wanted to give insightful analysis or commentary, he can't really.

i feel like geoff and tyler have given lots of intelligent analysis of players, matches, and matchups and can back them up good examples and logic. i feel that's missing from day9. to be clear, that's only with respect to this podcast. he's an excellent caster and great on his dailies.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 02 2011 23:12 GMT
#28274
On August 03 2011 08:04 fishjie wrote:he isn't currently a pro player so he doesn't have as much insight into the current sotg. worse, he typically hasn't watched a lot of the gsl matches, so even if he wanted to give insightful analysis or commentary, he can't really.


Well if you want to look at it that way, none of the pillars are really high end progamers (not even in NA, the weakest region). And none of them really watch all of GSL either.

The way I remember it, it's Tyler and Sean that actually gave the most insightful comments about the game (in the pre-Artosis era). In fact that's the one thing where Sean always has something clever to say, it's the drama topics he avoids and/or laughs them away.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#28275
On August 03 2011 08:04 fishjie wrote:
yeah i love day 9 and all, but i have to agree he doesn't add that much to the show

he isn't currently a pro player so he doesn't have as much insight into the current sotg. worse, he typically hasn't watched a lot of the gsl matches, so even if he wanted to give insightful analysis or commentary, he can't really.

i feel like geoff and tyler have given lots of intelligent analysis of players, matches, and matchups and can back them up good examples and logic. i feel that's missing from day9. to be clear, that's only with respect to this podcast. he's an excellent caster and great on his dailies.

I couldn't disagree more. Day 9's personality makes him great on this show. And while he isn't a pro player, he has a great wealth of knowledge. If you have ever seen him on JP's stream while JP plays, Sean gives such great insight. And I would say he watches more matches than Tyler and Geoff did.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 02 2011 23:34 GMT
#28276
On August 03 2011 08:25 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 08:04 fishjie wrote:
yeah i love day 9 and all, but i have to agree he doesn't add that much to the show

he isn't currently a pro player so he doesn't have as much insight into the current sotg. worse, he typically hasn't watched a lot of the gsl matches, so even if he wanted to give insightful analysis or commentary, he can't really.

i feel like geoff and tyler have given lots of intelligent analysis of players, matches, and matchups and can back them up good examples and logic. i feel that's missing from day9. to be clear, that's only with respect to this podcast. he's an excellent caster and great on his dailies.

I couldn't disagree more. Day 9's personality makes him great on this show. And while he isn't a pro player, he has a great wealth of knowledge. If you have ever seen him on JP's stream while JP plays, Sean gives such great insight. And I would say he watches more matches than Tyler and Geoff did.


His wealth of knowledge was a lot higher in the beta and early release when there was a lot less to know.

All three of Artosis, Tasteless and Day9 definitely are not at the peak of understanding the game like they once were, Homestory and MC casting in broken English showed this.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
August 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#28277
On August 03 2011 05:44 KASPpraetorianGuard wrote:

If Incontrol comes back, I really have to question his motives. Other than money, I don't see any other reason. And he disrepects TotalBiscuit motives for coming to Starcraft. Can't see anyone as more of a hypocrite than Geoff. Talk about flip flop. I just don't like the negativity that Geoff brings to SOTG.


Motives? Sotg was incredibly beneficial for Geoffs position in the community, and he has acknowledged this several times. If any obstacles was cleared, then it would be a logical step for him to move back. He also adds value to the show.

The one old friend i would really love back on sotg was CauthonLuck, but i guess we wont see him in sc2 anymore. I miss you cluck!
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
August 03 2011 00:07 GMT
#28278
Thank god I can finally watch again (provided it is indeed Incontrol), it has been a snoozefest for a few weeks.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 03 2011 00:09 GMT
#28279
On August 03 2011 09:03 Ghad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 05:44 KASPpraetorianGuard wrote:

If Incontrol comes back, I really have to question his motives. Other than money, I don't see any other reason. And he disrepects TotalBiscuit motives for coming to Starcraft. Can't see anyone as more of a hypocrite than Geoff. Talk about flip flop. I just don't like the negativity that Geoff brings to SOTG.


Motives? Sotg was incredibly beneficial for Geoffs position in the community, and he has acknowledged this several times. If any obstacles was cleared, then it would be a logical step for him to move back. He also adds value to the show.

The one old friend i would really love back on sotg was CauthonLuck, but i guess we wont see him in sc2 anymore. I miss you cluck!


Plus Geoff has a good time on SotG. But we all know he must have other motives(to destroy SotG from the INSIDE)
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 03 2011 00:17 GMT
#28280
On August 03 2011 08:34 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 08:25 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 03 2011 08:04 fishjie wrote:
yeah i love day 9 and all, but i have to agree he doesn't add that much to the show

he isn't currently a pro player so he doesn't have as much insight into the current sotg. worse, he typically hasn't watched a lot of the gsl matches, so even if he wanted to give insightful analysis or commentary, he can't really.

i feel like geoff and tyler have given lots of intelligent analysis of players, matches, and matchups and can back them up good examples and logic. i feel that's missing from day9. to be clear, that's only with respect to this podcast. he's an excellent caster and great on his dailies.

I couldn't disagree more. Day 9's personality makes him great on this show. And while he isn't a pro player, he has a great wealth of knowledge. If you have ever seen him on JP's stream while JP plays, Sean gives such great insight. And I would say he watches more matches than Tyler and Geoff did.


His wealth of knowledge was a lot higher in the beta and early release when there was a lot less to know.

All three of Artosis, Tasteless and Day9 definitely are not at the peak of understanding the game like they once were, Homestory and MC casting in broken English showed this.

Well then none of the people on the show have a wealth of knowledge compared to MC, outside of Huk. Clearly the Koreans are ahead of us, but I think everyone on the show is more than capable of breaking down their play and having a good discussion about it.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
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