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Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
June 02 2011 00:13 GMT
#24541
On June 02 2011 09:10 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:04 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:08 R3demption wrote:
This is sounding like a bunch of whinny babies to be honest. What is it "beat up Incontrol day" or something? Who cares if you disagree with him or were offended by him. Man up. The dude works his ass of and made SotG a great show, he deserves respect. So does JP, why would anyone flame him? People call him an idiot when he does things for the community none of yall do.

Man up.


Don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. We were all flaming him, we should definitely man up and never disagree with him or call him out on his bullshit. Yep...

The dude works his ass off for Starcraft and I do respect that, but I don't expect people to nod their heads or look away when he spouts silliness.


I HAVE A BRILLIANT IDEA. Dont watch the show if you hate the people on it and want to flame the themt. Its like "thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me at work, and btw FUCK YOU"

See how much sense this makes? Its always been opinionated, if you can't take the opinions then come here and post how you feel, cause everyone cares how much you dislike Incontrol...

GL and MLG to Tyler Incontrol Idra and JP (Casting). Thank you for saving my day at work today.


Once again, don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. It's not like I really like SotG, it's not like I've commented on how this was a good episode, it's not like I praised the guests in this episode at all, right?

No, it's not, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and btw FUCK YOU"... It's, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and I agree with you here, I agree with you here, I disagree with you here". Don't fucking simplify it into a situation where no one can actually discuss or disagree with any of the people on the show and furthermore disagree with them in the thread.

Alright, from now on every time there's a new episode, one person should post, "Great episode, really liked it" and everyone else post "What the poster above me said". Great, awesome...

We can "take the opinions" just fine, and guess what, everyone has their own too? Oh shiiiit. Crazy right? Just because I like the show doesn't mean I can't call someone on their bullshit, and just because I call someone on their bullshit doesn't mean I hate the show.

Thanks for a great episode guys, good luck at MLG and hope to see the show back soon.


It was his last episode and this is how we send him off, thats more of my point dude.
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 01:09:00
June 02 2011 00:15 GMT
#24542
On June 02 2011 08:36 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 08:35 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:01 aquanda wrote:
It's really quite interesting in the most pathetic way possible how seriously you people take everything.

I generally don't like quoting things just for the sake of quoting them, but I would put this in the fucking banner of the website if I had the power. everyone needs to get this message.


NAH MAN ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS U GOTTA THINK ABOUT ESPORTS CUZ UR HURTING THEM

BM HURTS ESPORTS
OFFENSIVE WORDS HURT ESPORTS
CENSORSHIP HURTS ESPORTS
HOT_BID'S TROLLING HURTS ESPORTS
TL NAZIDOM HURTS ESPORTS
TL'S BAD POSTERS HURT ESPORTS
INCONTROL HURTS ESPORTS
MLG HURTS ESPORTS
SCANTILY CLAD GAMER GIRLS HURT ESPORTS
HATE AGAINST GAMER GIRLS HURTS ESPORTS
STARCRAFT 2 HURTS ESPORTS
STARCRAFT BROODWAR HURTS ESPORTS
BLIZZARD IS HURTING ESPORTS
CAPS LOCK IS HURTING ESPORTS

and the list could go on for infinity and then some.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 02 2011 00:16 GMT
#24543
On June 02 2011 09:13 R3demption wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:10 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:04 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:08 R3demption wrote:
This is sounding like a bunch of whinny babies to be honest. What is it "beat up Incontrol day" or something? Who cares if you disagree with him or were offended by him. Man up. The dude works his ass of and made SotG a great show, he deserves respect. So does JP, why would anyone flame him? People call him an idiot when he does things for the community none of yall do.

Man up.


Don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. We were all flaming him, we should definitely man up and never disagree with him or call him out on his bullshit. Yep...

The dude works his ass off for Starcraft and I do respect that, but I don't expect people to nod their heads or look away when he spouts silliness.


I HAVE A BRILLIANT IDEA. Dont watch the show if you hate the people on it and want to flame the themt. Its like "thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me at work, and btw FUCK YOU"

See how much sense this makes? Its always been opinionated, if you can't take the opinions then come here and post how you feel, cause everyone cares how much you dislike Incontrol...

GL and MLG to Tyler Incontrol Idra and JP (Casting). Thank you for saving my day at work today.


Once again, don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. It's not like I really like SotG, it's not like I've commented on how this was a good episode, it's not like I praised the guests in this episode at all, right?

No, it's not, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and btw FUCK YOU"... It's, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and I agree with you here, I agree with you here, I disagree with you here". Don't fucking simplify it into a situation where no one can actually discuss or disagree with any of the people on the show and furthermore disagree with them in the thread.

Alright, from now on every time there's a new episode, one person should post, "Great episode, really liked it" and everyone else post "What the poster above me said". Great, awesome...

We can "take the opinions" just fine, and guess what, everyone has their own too? Oh shiiiit. Crazy right? Just because I like the show doesn't mean I can't call someone on their bullshit, and just because I call someone on their bullshit doesn't mean I hate the show.

Thanks for a great episode guys, good luck at MLG and hope to see the show back soon.


It was his last episode and this is how we send him off, thats more of my point dude.


I'm still lost here... you come off really abrasive and then respond with a single sentence that leaves me utterly confused.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
June 02 2011 00:16 GMT
#24544
I've been thinking about Tyler's attempt at drawing a parallel between stand-up comedy and people talking on streams or commentating tournaments, and it just doesn't work for me. For one thing, Tyler seems to suggest that all "good" or "responsible" comedians will attempt to moderate their language out of sensititvity, but on the other hand, there are comedians who's work just wouldn't be the same if they filtered themselves. Like, what would be interesting about a self-moderated Bill Hicks? Absolutely nothing.

Louie CK has a funny bit on the subject of offensive words.



he's an interesting comedian to bring up on the subject anyway, because he will not avoid extremely touchy and offensive subjects, like rape or pedophilia, out of sensitivity issues or how just mentioning these words could possibly force rape or pedophilia victims remember very painful events in their lives. And regarding the things CK discusses on his tv show or in his stand-up comedy, I certainly view him as a much more socially responsible artists than Seinfeld ever was.




Generally, I just think Tyler's comparison is just bad though. A stand-up comic will work extensively on his/her material, and in a lot of cases be very particular about their wording - even, or especially, when talking about potentially offensive terms. A person talking on his stream just will not and should not be expected to. Also, the strained political correctness of it all just makes Tyler/Incontrol's opinions completely uniteresting to me.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 02 2011 00:17 GMT
#24545
On June 02 2011 09:04 R3demption wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:08 R3demption wrote:
This is sounding like a bunch of whinny babies to be honest. What is it "beat up Incontrol day" or something? Who cares if you disagree with him or were offended by him. Man up. The dude works his ass of and made SotG a great show, he deserves respect. So does JP, why would anyone flame him? People call him an idiot when he does things for the community none of yall do.

Man up.


Don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. We were all flaming him, we should definitely man up and never disagree with him or call him out on his bullshit. Yep...

The dude works his ass off for Starcraft and I do respect that, but I don't expect people to nod their heads or look away when he spouts silliness.


I HAVE A BRILLIANT IDEA. Dont watch the show if you hate the people on it and want to flame the themt. Its like "thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me at work, and btw FUCK YOU"

See how much sense this makes? Its always been opinionated, if you can't take the opinions then come here and post how you feel, cause everyone cares how much you dislike Incontrol...

GL at MLG to Tyler Incontrol Idra and JP (Casting). Thank you for saving my day at work today.


Wow... at first I thought you may have misquoted since what you said wasn't even a response to anything Mordiford said, but then I saw the rest of the post and realized you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

God... part of me wants to just not even justify it with a response...

-No one said they are awtching it when they hate the people on it, so why did you even mention it?

-"See how much sense this makes?" Ya it doesn't make sense, and that's probably why no one did that... again, why are you mentioning it if it has no relevance to anything...

-"if you can't take the opinions then come here and post how you feel" ok I am pretty sure this is sarcastic, but your whole post has been quite illogical that I'm not sure which it is.
--First I will approach it as if it isn't sarcasm. Okay, we will come here to post our opinions and how we feel.
--Now assuming it is sarcastic. We are entitled to post our opinions here, especially if they are based on sound reasoning. That is the point of the forums, to have an actual discussion in which many people have many different opinions. If you think that these forums are only for praising people then you are wrong.

-"cause everyone cares how much you dislike incontrol" Okay I shouldn't speak for him, but I'm pretty sure he said many times he doesn't dislike incontrol... he is just disagreeing with him. Believe it or not, if you respect someone or are friends with someone, you don't always have to agree with them.


I really hope you are trolling though, because I just don't understand where you are even coming up with this kind of stuff otherwise.
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
June 02 2011 00:18 GMT
#24546
On June 02 2011 09:16 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:13 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:10 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:04 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:08 R3demption wrote:
This is sounding like a bunch of whinny babies to be honest. What is it "beat up Incontrol day" or something? Who cares if you disagree with him or were offended by him. Man up. The dude works his ass of and made SotG a great show, he deserves respect. So does JP, why would anyone flame him? People call him an idiot when he does things for the community none of yall do.

Man up.


Don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. We were all flaming him, we should definitely man up and never disagree with him or call him out on his bullshit. Yep...

The dude works his ass off for Starcraft and I do respect that, but I don't expect people to nod their heads or look away when he spouts silliness.


I HAVE A BRILLIANT IDEA. Dont watch the show if you hate the people on it and want to flame the themt. Its like "thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me at work, and btw FUCK YOU"

See how much sense this makes? Its always been opinionated, if you can't take the opinions then come here and post how you feel, cause everyone cares how much you dislike Incontrol...

GL and MLG to Tyler Incontrol Idra and JP (Casting). Thank you for saving my day at work today.


Once again, don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. It's not like I really like SotG, it's not like I've commented on how this was a good episode, it's not like I praised the guests in this episode at all, right?

No, it's not, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and btw FUCK YOU"... It's, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and I agree with you here, I agree with you here, I disagree with you here". Don't fucking simplify it into a situation where no one can actually discuss or disagree with any of the people on the show and furthermore disagree with them in the thread.

Alright, from now on every time there's a new episode, one person should post, "Great episode, really liked it" and everyone else post "What the poster above me said". Great, awesome...

We can "take the opinions" just fine, and guess what, everyone has their own too? Oh shiiiit. Crazy right? Just because I like the show doesn't mean I can't call someone on their bullshit, and just because I call someone on their bullshit doesn't mean I hate the show.

Thanks for a great episode guys, good luck at MLG and hope to see the show back soon.


It was his last episode and this is how we send him off, thats more of my point dude.


I'm still lost here... you come off really abrasive and then respond with a single sentence that leaves me utterly confused.


From reading all the comments above, it comes off as a big fuck you to Geoff rather than a Thank you.
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
June 02 2011 00:23 GMT
#24547
Loved when Destiny said "selling out".
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
June 02 2011 00:23 GMT
#24548
On June 02 2011 09:10 TheFrankOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:09 masterchip27 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 TheFrankOne wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:04 masterchip27 wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:52 Talin wrote:
On June 02 2011 07:39 masterchip27 wrote:
Nobody really answered Idra's argument that Zerg lacks safe non-coin-toss openings that other races have very well.


That's not an argument, that's a fantasy. What are they supposed to answer?

No, other races don't have it.


Well just to clarify the imbalance discussion doesn't have to do with any of the lower leagues (or even a lot of masters, I guess), but really at the very top level of play (recall day9 saying that he simply didn't know enough about the match-ups to make a comment regarding what Idra was saying [and note him being humble and therefore not ever getting flamed])... and so idk if most people on this thread (including myself) are really qualified to say Idra wants a fantasy.

I wished Artosis and Idra still did the Imbalanced! show lol it would be a lot of fun.



Day9 said Idra was being so vague (that he was just venting) it was impossible to have an argument especially without a replay, not a story about coin tosses and scouting troubles. He did not say he didn't know enough about the match ups to argue. He also said that he didn't have time to discuss balance. He then got flamed by a ton of people for losing the argument terribly when he wasn't trying to argue, it was hilarious.

This thread in the past several hours has been way more entertaining than the actual last show.


In that episode, yeah. I'm talking about Monday's episode


Hmmm... missed that part of Monday's episode, nevermind then.


He didn't say that explicitly so maybe I interpreted him wrong (he did say he was playing terrible, and didn't engage the balance discussion, and I feel like he said something like that in a daily, idk).
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 02 2011 00:24 GMT
#24549
On June 02 2011 09:18 R3demption wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:13 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:10 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:04 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:08 R3demption wrote:
This is sounding like a bunch of whinny babies to be honest. What is it "beat up Incontrol day" or something? Who cares if you disagree with him or were offended by him. Man up. The dude works his ass of and made SotG a great show, he deserves respect. So does JP, why would anyone flame him? People call him an idiot when he does things for the community none of yall do.

Man up.


Don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. We were all flaming him, we should definitely man up and never disagree with him or call him out on his bullshit. Yep...

The dude works his ass off for Starcraft and I do respect that, but I don't expect people to nod their heads or look away when he spouts silliness.


I HAVE A BRILLIANT IDEA. Dont watch the show if you hate the people on it and want to flame the themt. Its like "thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me at work, and btw FUCK YOU"

See how much sense this makes? Its always been opinionated, if you can't take the opinions then come here and post how you feel, cause everyone cares how much you dislike Incontrol...

GL and MLG to Tyler Incontrol Idra and JP (Casting). Thank you for saving my day at work today.


Once again, don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. It's not like I really like SotG, it's not like I've commented on how this was a good episode, it's not like I praised the guests in this episode at all, right?

No, it's not, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and btw FUCK YOU"... It's, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and I agree with you here, I agree with you here, I disagree with you here". Don't fucking simplify it into a situation where no one can actually discuss or disagree with any of the people on the show and furthermore disagree with them in the thread.

Alright, from now on every time there's a new episode, one person should post, "Great episode, really liked it" and everyone else post "What the poster above me said". Great, awesome...

We can "take the opinions" just fine, and guess what, everyone has their own too? Oh shiiiit. Crazy right? Just because I like the show doesn't mean I can't call someone on their bullshit, and just because I call someone on their bullshit doesn't mean I hate the show.

Thanks for a great episode guys, good luck at MLG and hope to see the show back soon.


It was his last episode and this is how we send him off, thats more of my point dude.


I'm still lost here... you come off really abrasive and then respond with a single sentence that leaves me utterly confused.


From reading all the comments above, it comes off as a big fuck you to Geoff rather than a Thank you.


There were a lot of, "Thank you, we'll miss you"s and discussion of the episode as usual. Then Geoff responded with remarks belittling another team and a discussion on that began, as it always does in this thread, people talk about the show, and the stuff that's said on the show, and then respond to what's said in the thread. If the show was just 2 hours of Geoff's best moments and a send off and people were arbitrarily flaming him, you'd have a point, but there was actual content to discuss in addition.

There was content, we discussed the content of the show, and responded to the statements made in the thread. Despite Geoff playing the victim here, no one was really flaming him, they were just responding to the comments he made which were seen as belittling FXO and the accomplishments of it's players in comparison to his own.
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
June 02 2011 00:35 GMT
#24550
On June 02 2011 09:24 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:18 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:13 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:10 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:04 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:08 R3demption wrote:
This is sounding like a bunch of whinny babies to be honest. What is it "beat up Incontrol day" or something? Who cares if you disagree with him or were offended by him. Man up. The dude works his ass of and made SotG a great show, he deserves respect. So does JP, why would anyone flame him? People call him an idiot when he does things for the community none of yall do.

Man up.


Don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. We were all flaming him, we should definitely man up and never disagree with him or call him out on his bullshit. Yep...

The dude works his ass off for Starcraft and I do respect that, but I don't expect people to nod their heads or look away when he spouts silliness.


I HAVE A BRILLIANT IDEA. Dont watch the show if you hate the people on it and want to flame the themt. Its like "thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me at work, and btw FUCK YOU"

See how much sense this makes? Its always been opinionated, if you can't take the opinions then come here and post how you feel, cause everyone cares how much you dislike Incontrol...

GL and MLG to Tyler Incontrol Idra and JP (Casting). Thank you for saving my day at work today.


Once again, don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. It's not like I really like SotG, it's not like I've commented on how this was a good episode, it's not like I praised the guests in this episode at all, right?

No, it's not, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and btw FUCK YOU"... It's, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and I agree with you here, I agree with you here, I disagree with you here". Don't fucking simplify it into a situation where no one can actually discuss or disagree with any of the people on the show and furthermore disagree with them in the thread.

Alright, from now on every time there's a new episode, one person should post, "Great episode, really liked it" and everyone else post "What the poster above me said". Great, awesome...

We can "take the opinions" just fine, and guess what, everyone has their own too? Oh shiiiit. Crazy right? Just because I like the show doesn't mean I can't call someone on their bullshit, and just because I call someone on their bullshit doesn't mean I hate the show.

Thanks for a great episode guys, good luck at MLG and hope to see the show back soon.


It was his last episode and this is how we send him off, thats more of my point dude.


I'm still lost here... you come off really abrasive and then respond with a single sentence that leaves me utterly confused.


From reading all the comments above, it comes off as a big fuck you to Geoff rather than a Thank you.


There were a lot of, "Thank you, we'll miss you"s and discussion of the episode as usual. Then Geoff responded with remarks belittling another team and a discussion on that began, as it always does in this thread, people talk about the show, and the stuff that's said on the show, and then respond to what's said in the thread. If the show was just 2 hours of Geoff's best moments and a send off and people were arbitrarily flaming him, you'd have a point, but there was actual content to discuss in addition.

There was content, we discussed the content of the show, and responded to the statements made in the thread. Despite Geoff playing the victim here, no one was really flaming him, they were just responding to the comments he made which were seen as belittling FXO and the accomplishments of it's players in comparison to his own.
'

Okay.

My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
June 02 2011 00:36 GMT
#24551
I watch both code a and code s. No difference. That comment from inc made me rage. I understand it, but it's wrong!
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 02 2011 00:44 GMT
#24552
On June 02 2011 09:35 R3demption wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:24 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:18 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:13 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:10 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:04 R3demption wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:08 R3demption wrote:
This is sounding like a bunch of whinny babies to be honest. What is it "beat up Incontrol day" or something? Who cares if you disagree with him or were offended by him. Man up. The dude works his ass of and made SotG a great show, he deserves respect. So does JP, why would anyone flame him? People call him an idiot when he does things for the community none of yall do.

Man up.


Don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. We were all flaming him, we should definitely man up and never disagree with him or call him out on his bullshit. Yep...

The dude works his ass off for Starcraft and I do respect that, but I don't expect people to nod their heads or look away when he spouts silliness.


I HAVE A BRILLIANT IDEA. Dont watch the show if you hate the people on it and want to flame the themt. Its like "thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me at work, and btw FUCK YOU"

See how much sense this makes? Its always been opinionated, if you can't take the opinions then come here and post how you feel, cause everyone cares how much you dislike Incontrol...

GL and MLG to Tyler Incontrol Idra and JP (Casting). Thank you for saving my day at work today.


Once again, don't read the actual posts or anything, that's cool. It's not like I really like SotG, it's not like I've commented on how this was a good episode, it's not like I praised the guests in this episode at all, right?

No, it's not, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and btw FUCK YOU"... It's, "Thanks for taking the time to talk about Starcraft and entertain me, and I agree with you here, I agree with you here, I disagree with you here". Don't fucking simplify it into a situation where no one can actually discuss or disagree with any of the people on the show and furthermore disagree with them in the thread.

Alright, from now on every time there's a new episode, one person should post, "Great episode, really liked it" and everyone else post "What the poster above me said". Great, awesome...

We can "take the opinions" just fine, and guess what, everyone has their own too? Oh shiiiit. Crazy right? Just because I like the show doesn't mean I can't call someone on their bullshit, and just because I call someone on their bullshit doesn't mean I hate the show.

Thanks for a great episode guys, good luck at MLG and hope to see the show back soon.


It was his last episode and this is how we send him off, thats more of my point dude.


I'm still lost here... you come off really abrasive and then respond with a single sentence that leaves me utterly confused.


From reading all the comments above, it comes off as a big fuck you to Geoff rather than a Thank you.


There were a lot of, "Thank you, we'll miss you"s and discussion of the episode as usual. Then Geoff responded with remarks belittling another team and a discussion on that began, as it always does in this thread, people talk about the show, and the stuff that's said on the show, and then respond to what's said in the thread. If the show was just 2 hours of Geoff's best moments and a send off and people were arbitrarily flaming him, you'd have a point, but there was actual content to discuss in addition.

There was content, we discussed the content of the show, and responded to the statements made in the thread. Despite Geoff playing the victim here, no one was really flaming him, they were just responding to the comments he made which were seen as belittling FXO and the accomplishments of it's players in comparison to his own.
'

Okay.



Good talk.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
June 02 2011 00:46 GMT
#24553
On June 02 2011 09:36 ellirc wrote:
I watch both code a and code s. No difference. That comment from inc made me rage. I understand it, but it's wrong!


Ya they should have just looked at the view number on the vods of code A. Don't know why that would have been so hard to do.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 02 2011 00:48 GMT
#24554
On June 02 2011 03:06 GuiMontag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 02:59 The KY wrote:
On June 02 2011 01:24 -_- wrote:
On June 02 2011 01:16 iNcontroL wrote:
I'm sorry if you think 4th place isn't an accomplishment. I'm sorry if you think it is telling that I am happy with that finish.

I will comfort myself by knowing you aren't anywhere near a progamer and literally have 0 grasp of what it takes to place that high in anything competitive. So I know without a shadow of doubt that you are 100% a completely irrelevant perspective on the matter.


Calm down. I understand where you're coming from, but you don't know about my competitive background. Just because I'm not a progamer doesn't mean I haven't been succesful in my life. And just because you angry, doesn't mean you can proclaim that my perspective is irrelevant.

Let's use a sports analogy. If Lebron James loses in the finals, do you think he'll be happy with his 2nd place finish? Do you think Derrick Rose is happy with his 3rd/4th place finish? And if they were, it would certainly speak to how good they think they are (not the best), and what their goals were (not to be a champion).


Allow me to use another analogy.

My football team is Tottenham Hotspur in the Premier League. In the 2009/2010 season they finished fourth. And I was fucking ECSTATIC. Fourth in what is probably the most prestigious league in the world? Above teams like Man City and Liverpool, coming within a hairs breadth of Arsenal? BEATING Arsenal and Chelsea along the way? Fourth was a fucking dream.

Is that because Spurs are a lesser team than Chelsea, who would be unhappy with 4th? Yeah sure. Does that make the achievement any lesser for Tottenham? Er, no. It's still an amazing result for any team except for maybe 3. Being a lesser team than Chelsea and Man United is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, if you're ahead of everyone else.

The analogy is that for, say, IdrA, 4th is a disappointment. For iNcontroL it's astoundingly good. Is it because he's a lesser player than IdrA. Yep. Don't think he'd disagree with that (at least not right now, maybe after his wins his MLG ). Is being proud of 4th at MLG mean that he is a SECOND RATE player? Fuck no.


After that win did your team then shit all over other teams that you didn't beat but placed lower in ranking, and then hide behind that ONE 4th place win every time someone critisized your play?


Wtf, who was Inc shitting on? Someone said EG were bad except for IdrA and he used facts and results to demonstrate that EG are objectively better than FXO. It fucking baffles me that you think he was shitting on anyone.

As for using his result as some kind of shield to deflect criticism, this thread is the only time I've ever seen him bring it up. And above and beyond that it was the most recent MLG. When talking about MLG results, why not reference the previous fucking event?
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 02 2011 00:52 GMT
#24555
On June 02 2011 09:15 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 08:36 Megaliskuu wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:35 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:01 aquanda wrote:
It's really quite interesting in the most pathetic way possible how seriously you people take everything.

I generally don't like quoting things just for the sake of quoting them, but I would put this in the fucking banner of the website if I had the power. everyone needs to get this message.


NAH MAN ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS U GOTTA THINK ABOUT ESPORTS CUZ UR HURTING THEM

BM HURTS ESPORTS
OFFENSIVE WORDS HURT ESPORTS
CENSORSHIP HURTS ESPORTS
HOT_BID'S TROLLING HURTS ESPORTS
TL NAZIDOM HURTS ESPORTS
TL'S BAD POSTERS HURT ESPORTS
INCONTROL HURTS ESPORTS
MLG HURTS ESPORTS
SCANTILY CLAD GAMER GIRLS HURT ESPORTS
HATE AGAINST GAMER GIRLS HURTS ESPORTS
STARCRAFT 2 HURTS ESPORTS
STARCRAFT BROODWAR HURTS ESPORTS
BLIZZARD IS HURTING ESPORTS

and the list could go on for infinity and then some.


You forgot

CAPITAL LETTERS HURT ESPORTS

Have a good day sir
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MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
June 02 2011 01:08 GMT
#24556
On June 02 2011 09:52 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:15 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:36 Megaliskuu wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:35 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:01 aquanda wrote:
It's really quite interesting in the most pathetic way possible how seriously you people take everything.

I generally don't like quoting things just for the sake of quoting them, but I would put this in the fucking banner of the website if I had the power. everyone needs to get this message.


NAH MAN ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS U GOTTA THINK ABOUT ESPORTS CUZ UR HURTING THEM

BM HURTS ESPORTS
OFFENSIVE WORDS HURT ESPORTS
CENSORSHIP HURTS ESPORTS
HOT_BID'S TROLLING HURTS ESPORTS
TL NAZIDOM HURTS ESPORTS
TL'S BAD POSTERS HURT ESPORTS
INCONTROL HURTS ESPORTS
MLG HURTS ESPORTS
SCANTILY CLAD GAMER GIRLS HURT ESPORTS
HATE AGAINST GAMER GIRLS HURTS ESPORTS
STARCRAFT 2 HURTS ESPORTS
STARCRAFT BROODWAR HURTS ESPORTS
BLIZZARD IS HURTING ESPORTS

and the list could go on for infinity and then some.


You forgot

CAPITAL LETTERS HURT ESPORTS

Have a good day sir

thanks, edited into post
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Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 02 2011 01:09 GMT
#24557
Why do people always refer to ESports when 95% of Sc2 players (or viewers) have no interest in any other competative games besides Starcraft?
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 02 2011 01:13 GMT
#24558
ESPORTS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS YO.

Ok I just read through the recentposts in this thread and yeah it's pretty fucking awful. Inc defends his team when someone claims FXO are better and suddenly you've got 10-20 people jumping down his throat, trying to delegitimise his results, basically insulting him as a player which is his livelihood, then when he reacts angrily he gets a smug little 'hey calm down I was only calling you fucking terrible, you're the one who was shitting on other players, why are you playing the victim.'

For some unknown reason there's a fucking legion of arseholes who feel the need to put iNcontroL under far more scrutiny than is necessary, then take any opportunity to shit on him.

Every MLG last year; Inc is fucking awful!

MLG Dallas; Inc got an easy bracket!

MLG groups announced; Inc gets another easy group what a joke! (this one was particularly weird...so many people were saying it. Where's the people saying 'TLO gets the easiest group again guess he gets an easy road to 5th again!'. Why single out Inc from the 20 people in the groups?)

Inc streaming; He just lost a bunch of games, guess he's fucking shitty!

And now Inc defends his team and himself and the vultures fucking descend again. No wonder he got pissed and left the thread and the show on such a sour note.

I call bullshit on the iNcontroL hate. Just fucking stop.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
June 02 2011 01:15 GMT
#24559
reasons why pros dont read the forums:

you dudes
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
June 02 2011 01:22 GMT
#24560
On June 02 2011 09:15 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 08:36 Megaliskuu wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:35 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On June 02 2011 08:01 aquanda wrote:
It's really quite interesting in the most pathetic way possible how seriously you people take everything.

I generally don't like quoting things just for the sake of quoting them, but I would put this in the fucking banner of the website if I had the power. everyone needs to get this message.


NAH MAN ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS U GOTTA THINK ABOUT ESPORTS CUZ UR HURTING THEM

BM HURTS ESPORTS
OFFENSIVE WORDS HURT ESPORTS
CENSORSHIP HURTS ESPORTS
HOT_BID'S TROLLING HURTS ESPORTS
TL NAZIDOM HURTS ESPORTS
TL'S BAD POSTERS HURT ESPORTS
INCONTROL HURTS ESPORTS
MLG HURTS ESPORTS
SCANTILY CLAD GAMER GIRLS HURT ESPORTS
HATE AGAINST GAMER GIRLS HURTS ESPORTS
STARCRAFT 2 HURTS ESPORTS
STARCRAFT BROODWAR HURTS ESPORTS
BLIZZARD IS HURTING ESPORTS
CAPS LOCK IS HURTING ESPORTS

and the list could go on for infinity and then some.

Ridiculous additions to things are the usual excuse for not having to do anything. "Oh I cant save the world, so I just continue destroying my own little bit of it." Just get some common sense and respect your societies values instead of trying to be a smartass kid and ignore others.

After thinking about the whole swearing and cursing thing I have come to the conclusion that those guys are todays version of Peter Pan ... they still want to be "the rebel" they were in their early teens and cant really get over it and grow up.
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