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drox22
129 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:22 TheNihilist wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Just because he enjoyed a joke and you didn't is no reason to berate him. I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:11 Talin wrote: There are almost no Protoss bitching about Zerg, except jokingly - HuK's comments were mostly made in jest, as he said himself. And if anyone was actually insulted by them, they should keep in mind that Zerg mass imba whining mentality has been the scourge of every Starcraft related forum for over half a year, every second thread got derailed in that direction, you literally couldn't run from it except by only ever reading General forum threads. Nobody has any ground to feel offended after 6 months of turning the community and forums into a living nightmare. Pretty much everyone on SoTG agreed that it's the players that need to develop ways of beating strategies that are currently dominant - it's what reasonable people have been saying all along. -_- except that most zergs stopped whining about deathballs after we found out infestors are pretty good... and the whining before the infestor buff was pretty justified imo. and even before the infestor buff zergs were trying to find ways to beat protoss, they just weren't working. and it's not like zergs are the only ones who whine or all zergs whine, like you seem to be saying. early in SC2, protosses complained a ton about being UP. some terrans have been whining about infestors recently and some protosses (although not top protosses or terrans, mind you) have been whining about the roachling allins which have surfaced recently. people from every race whine, sometimes it's justified, sometimes it isn't, but don't act like it's just zergs. | ||
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LagT_T
Argentina535 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:14 drox22 wrote: Well then you must have very low self esteem and no national pride to be honest, too bad for you. Naniwa must have very low self esteem and no national pride too, typical traits of a high level competitive player, because he also laughed | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:14 drox22 wrote: Well then you must have very low self esteem and no national pride to be honest, too bad for you. Um, no, actually it's the exact opposite. | ||
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JuuMeijin
Sweden164 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:14 drox22 wrote: Well then you must have very low self esteem and no national pride to be honest, too bad for you. Low self esteem for appreciating a hilarious series of jokes, are you for real? | ||
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drox22
129 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:26 Deskaru wrote: Low self esteem for appreciating a hilarious series of jokes, are you for real? Well I don't know, he called pretty much every guy in your country ugly and said that germans have no sense of humor, which again is a generalization, I'd so love to make fun of americans now for being fat and smelly but I'm not a person who does things like that, I'm actually a mannered guy. | ||
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:20 Ropid wrote: German here, found it funny. Also, Incontrol is into some kind of weight lifting sports stuff and not actually overweight.  No, hes overweight. And he doesn't competitively lift anymore either i found his comments pretty outrageous and i'm not Swedish either, but meh I've come to expect this unprofessionalism from incontrol. | ||
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stangstang
Canada281 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote: I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. Then you're late to the ball to be offended by incontrol. He has done this many times on the show before. Everyone knows its a joke. The fact that you are suddenly offended after this episode means either you haven't listened to the other episodes or you think it's okay for other people to be made fun of, but not "swedes and europeans" | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:28 drox22 wrote: Well I don't know, he called pretty much every guy in your country ugly and said that germans have no sense of humor, which again is a generalization, I'd so love to make fun of americans now for being fat and smelly but I'm not a person who does things like that, I'm actually a mannered guy. I'm American and we are fat and smelly Also you actually did do that even though you said you wouldn't, just by saying it. But I assure you it is no skin off my nose. | ||
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Desirous
Canada95 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:14 drox22 wrote: Well then you must have very low self esteem and no national pride to be honest, too bad for you. National pride is prejudice in the sense that to think something is superior, you have to think everything else is inferior. | ||
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dpL
Sweden571 Posts
SotG won't be the same without you. | ||
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drox22
129 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:30 Desirous wrote: National pride is prejudice in the sense that to think something is superior, you have to think everything else is inferior. Or you can just be proud at what your anchestors have built up and love the country because it's beautiful. Well no, that would be too complex. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote: I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. So the ability to laugh at something that's "not meant to be offensive" means that you have low self-esteem, no national pride, and you're ignorant? I would disagree with that and say instead, maybe this show isn't for you. Not every joke is going to be for everyone, but everyone isn't forced to listen to every joke. | ||
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faceless-
United States20 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13423 Posts
also, the show's taken breaks before usually right before and after an MLG where JP is busy  ill wait patiently. | ||
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Desirous
Canada95 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:32 drox22 wrote: Or you can just be proud at what your anchestors have built up and love the country because it's beautiful. Well no, that would be too complex. Really? You're related to every single person in your country? Are you proud of Canada for it's beautiful views? Are you proud of the things the Chinese have built up? | ||
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drox22
129 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:33 MrSexington wrote: So the ability to laugh at something that's "not meant to be offensive" means that you have low self-esteem, no national pride, and you're ignorant? I would disagree with that and say instead, maybe this show isn't for you. Not every joke is going to be for everyone, but everyone isn't forced to listen to every joke. How is it not meant to be offensive when you call people ugly and make fun of their looks? yes it was meant to be a joke, but it was offensive and I guess incontrol isn't aware that making fun of a whole country is not 'nice'. In theory you could say everything as long as its just meant to be a joke, right? | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote: I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. Of course it's funny, why wouldn't it be. Dont' take your nationalism so serious, makes stuff much easier. I can't believe how anyone could be offended by incontrols swedish progamer theory... Do you honestly think incontrol wanted to say that swedes are ugly? By the way, with all the incontrol talk, nobody's really speaking about Naniwa, I was amazed about how mature and reasonable he seems to be now. I really liked a lot of what he said, he especially deservers a lot of respect for his competitive spirit. Finally somebody who wants to go to Korea because it's where the best players are, and somebody who likes the best players to play in MLG because the better the competition, the better the tournament. That seems to be a rare attitude among foreigners these days. | ||
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drox22
129 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:35 Desirous wrote: Really? You're related to every single person in your country? Are you proud of Canada for it's beautiful views? Are you proud of the things the Chinese have built up? If I were canadian I'd be proud of it's beautiful views yes and if I was chinese I'd also be proud of the chinse wall for example, it's part of my country, a beautiful part of my country, why should I not be proud to be part of this? | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On May 26 2011 08:35 drox22 wrote: How is it not meant to be offensive when you call people ugly and make fun of their looks? yes it was meant to be a joke, but it was offensive and I guess incontrol isn't aware that making fun of a whole country is not 'nice'. In theory you could say everything as long as its just meant to be a joke, right? Now you're getting the hang of humor! | ||
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