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On May 26 2011 08:37 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote:
I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. Of course it's funny, why wouldn't it be. Dont' take your nationalism so serious, makes stuff much easier. I can't believe how anyone could be offended by incontrols swedish progamer theory... Do you honestly incontrol wanted to say that swedes are ugly?
because he made fun of people's looks and actually insulted them personally?
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On May 26 2011 08:37 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:35 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:33 MrSexington wrote:On May 26 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:22 TheNihilist wrote:On May 26 2011 08:14 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:12 Deskaru wrote:On May 26 2011 08:10 drox22 wrote:
Well I got really annoyed when Incontrol made fun of swedes and europeans, I know it wasn't meant to be offensive but it surely was. I can usually laugh about pretty much everything, but generalizations like that and making fun of other people's looks when you are pretty overweight isn't really cool and makes him look like a hypocrite tbh. I'm Swedish, I also found it hilarious. 8-( Well then you must have very low self esteem and no national pride to be honest, too bad for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominemJust because he enjoyed a joke and you didn't is no reason to berate him. I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. So the ability to laugh at something that's "not meant to be offensive" means that you have low self-esteem, no national pride, and you're ignorant? I would disagree with that and say instead, maybe this show isn't for you. Not every joke is going to be for everyone, but everyone isn't forced to listen to every joke. How is it not meant to be offensive when you call people ugly and make fun of their looks? yes it was meant to be a joke, but it was offensive and I guess incontrol isn't aware that making fun of a whole country is not 'nice'. In theory you could say everything as long as its just meant to be a joke, right? Now you're getting the hang of humor! 
well you're a faggot then, just kidding. =)
am i doing it right?
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On May 26 2011 08:37 drox22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:35 Desirous wrote:On May 26 2011 08:32 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:30 Desirous wrote:On May 26 2011 08:14 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:12 Deskaru wrote:On May 26 2011 08:10 drox22 wrote:
Well I got really annoyed when Incontrol made fun of swedes and europeans, I know it wasn't meant to be offensive but it surely was. I can usually laugh about pretty much everything, but generalizations like that and making fun of other people's looks when you are pretty overweight isn't really cool and makes him look like a hypocrite tbh. I'm Swedish, I also found it hilarious. 8-( Well then you must have very low self esteem and no national pride to be honest, too bad for you. National pride is prejudice in the sense that to think something is superior, you have to think everything else is inferior. Or you can just be proud at what your anchestors have built up and love the country because it's beautiful. Well no, that would be too complex. Really? You're related to every single person in your country? Are you proud of Canada for it's beautiful views? Are you proud of the things the Chinese have built up? If I were canadian I'd be proud of it's beautiful views yes and if I was chinese I'd also be proud of the chinse wall for example, it's part of my country, a beautiful part of my country, why should I not be proud to be part of this?
My point is you're proud of your country which a majority of it most likely has nothing to do with you or your ancestors but not proud of things in other countries achievements that have nothing to do with you or your family. You're prejudice.
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On May 26 2011 08:39 drox22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:37 blackone wrote:On May 26 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote:
I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. Of course it's funny, why wouldn't it be. Dont' take your nationalism so serious, makes stuff much easier. I can't believe how anyone could be offended by incontrols swedish progamer theory... Do you honestly incontrol wanted to say that swedes are ugly? because he made fun of people's looks and actually insulted them personally?
No, he didn't. Now you're just lying.
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On May 26 2011 08:40 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:39 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:37 blackone wrote:On May 26 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote:
I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. Of course it's funny, why wouldn't it be. Dont' take your nationalism so serious, makes stuff much easier. I can't believe how anyone could be offended by incontrols swedish progamer theory... Do you honestly incontrol wanted to say that swedes are ugly? because he made fun of people's looks and actually insulted them personally? No, he didn't. Now you're just lying.
Well he said "how could thorzain have a girlfriend, or naniwa? swedish progamers are generally unattractive" something like that. I'm not lying.
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Poll: replacement for incontrol (70) 70% dignitas.NaNiwa (22) 22% ROOT.drewbie (5) 5% coLcruncher (3) 3% 100 total votes Your vote: replacement for incontrol (Vote): dignitas.NaNiwa
(Vote): coLcruncher
(Vote): ROOT.drewbie
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personally id prefer coL cruncher because hes a rising star with really intellegent play
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On May 26 2011 08:40 Desirous wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:37 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:35 Desirous wrote:On May 26 2011 08:32 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:30 Desirous wrote:On May 26 2011 08:14 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:12 Deskaru wrote:On May 26 2011 08:10 drox22 wrote:
Well I got really annoyed when Incontrol made fun of swedes and europeans, I know it wasn't meant to be offensive but it surely was. I can usually laugh about pretty much everything, but generalizations like that and making fun of other people's looks when you are pretty overweight isn't really cool and makes him look like a hypocrite tbh. I'm Swedish, I also found it hilarious. 8-( Well then you must have very low self esteem and no national pride to be honest, too bad for you. National pride is prejudice in the sense that to think something is superior, you have to think everything else is inferior. Or you can just be proud at what your anchestors have built up and love the country because it's beautiful. Well no, that would be too complex. Really? You're related to every single person in your country? Are you proud of Canada for it's beautiful views? Are you proud of the things the Chinese have built up? If I were canadian I'd be proud of it's beautiful views yes and if I was chinese I'd also be proud of the chinse wall for example, it's part of my country, a beautiful part of my country, why should I not be proud to be part of this? My point is you're proud of your country which a majority of it most likely has nothing to do with you or your ancestors but not proud of things in other countries achievements that have nothing to do with you or your family. You're prejudice.
Hence why I'm proud of my country. you can be proud of things that you are not responsible for. I can be proud of my brother for doing something awesome for example.
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On May 26 2011 08:42 drox22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:40 blackone wrote:On May 26 2011 08:39 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:37 blackone wrote:On May 26 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote:
I'm just not a fan of "hey look this guy just made fun of my whole country, how funny" I would never do that and it's ignorant. Of course it's funny, why wouldn't it be. Dont' take your nationalism so serious, makes stuff much easier. I can't believe how anyone could be offended by incontrols swedish progamer theory... Do you honestly incontrol wanted to say that swedes are ugly? because he made fun of people's looks and actually insulted them personally? No, he didn't. Now you're just lying. Well he said "how could thorzain have a girlfriend, or naniwa? swedish progamers are generally unattractive" something like that. I'm not lying.
Okay. But then you're just the only person on this planet who took that serious.
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he was obviously just joking... how can you take this stuff seriously lol
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Thoughts on last nights show.
Personally i as a Zerg player i really don't see the balance of the races the way they do. Though im not going to pretend to know more than the pros. Though i would like to state why i think Zerg is doing better of late as a Z player and Avid tournament watcher.
+ Show Spoiler +Firstly i think that Zerg players are at an advantage right now, not because of race imbalance but because were pulling out all the stops. I really feel that Zergs right now are actually optimizing most of the possible unit combinations in the Zerg arsenal, and playing the right way by trading our more easily replaceable army for the opponents.
However where does Zerg go from here? I really don't believe there is many more unit combinations, to be utilized. Personally i feel the only way Zergs improve from here on out, is simply better mechanics not strategy. Better Injecting, Better Eco management, Better Production management, Better Multitasking, Better Creep spreading. The only thing i really think that isn't being utilized to its fullest capacity for Zerg are overseers, though again they require better multitasking.
If P/T are able to find ways to completely make aggressive Zerg not viable. then i really believe that Zergs won't know what to do beside for simply play better. Where the P/T still have untapped strategy, meaning they won't necessarily play better over all, they can finesse their way through this "tougher" time.
Oh yeah, and Sorry to hear about INcontrol he'll be missed on the show. Though personally when Stog comes back, i really hope when you pick stable fixtures for the show you could balance out races between them better, would make for a more entertaining show with more races.
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On May 26 2011 08:44 Naniwa wrote:
he was obviously just joking... how can you take this stuff seriously lol
This question has been raised since page 1 of this thread. Never fails that someone gets upset over satire.
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Actually my favorite part is I just re-listened to most of the episode and paid attention to that part specifically. He actually complimented your women, multiple times, and only once ever said anything negative in the term "relatively unattractive":
rel·a·tive·ly /ˈrelətivlē/ Adverb
Viewed in comparison with something else rather than absolutely
I'd personally happily accept "relatively unattractive" in comparison to Swedish women LOL.
Edit: Nani post boom
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I found huk pretty offensive calling out a user who sent in a question, by shitting all over it. Pretty badmannered to say the least.
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On May 26 2011 08:43 Juanald wrote:Poll: replacement for incontrol (70) 70% dignitas.NaNiwa (22) 22% ROOT.drewbie (5) 5% coLcruncher (3) 3% 100 total votes Your vote: replacement for incontrol (Vote): dignitas.NaNiwa
(Vote): coLcruncher
(Vote): ROOT.drewbie
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personally id prefer coL cruncher because hes a rising star with really intellegent play
those all look like terrible choices, i would prefer a terran or zerg and someone that actually wants to talk about the state of the game weekly.
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Ugh, just stop the discussing such a harmless joke. If you cant take humor like that then maybe you shouldn't watch sotg or even go on the internet at all. Even Naniwa laughed...
Sad to see incontrol go  hope they can find a good replacement, although it might be impossible, we'll see.
Also, 4 protosses discussing balance and ZvP seems like a bad idea. Not saying the arguments werent valid or anything (i wouldn't know, i'm a T), but i was missing some Z input there.
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On May 26 2011 08:20 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 08:14 drox22 wrote:On May 26 2011 08:12 Deskaru wrote:On May 26 2011 08:10 drox22 wrote:
Well I got really annoyed when Incontrol made fun of swedes and europeans, I know it wasn't meant to be offensive but it surely was. I can usually laugh about pretty much everything, but generalizations like that and making fun of other people's looks when you are pretty overweight isn't really cool and makes him look like a hypocrite tbh. I'm Swedish, I also found it hilarious. 8-( Well then you must have very low self esteem and no national pride to be honest, too bad for you. German here, found it funny. Also, Incontrol is into some kind of weight lifting sports stuff and not actually overweight. 
Cartman isnt overweight either, they are both big boned.
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Well, if I'm reading what I think I am then I am sad and laughing at the same time. It's sad to see incontrol leave since he gave allot to the table. Sure he isn't perfect and may take some jokes too personally but he really does care about the starcraft 2 community and does a good job of showing that. I will admit his sarastic jokes.... They are fucking hilarious. I will miss them ): Please NOT cruncher. I think a good replacement could be Idra, Wheat, qxc, kiwkaki, just someone skilled at sc who has a personality and is willing to give their insight.
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Ooooh, qxc, that would be incredibly awesome.
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I doubt IdrA would take it up full time since he's doing into the game now, and I think incontrol is on that full time (probably why he left sotg)
I think day9 has some more free time though......
/day9fanboyism.
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Wow some people really take offence for a joke(wich was a bit funny really). Come on guys... What does comedians do all the time? They provoke, and its funny, some will be offended but its still a joke, meaning not serious. Chillax! Learn from Tyler, If you can chill, chill.
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