EPTStarcraft 2 with Razer Megalodon 7.1? - Page 2
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
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Criptos
Canada128 Posts
TLDR: Highly recommend you go for PC350 you will NOT be disappointed. | ||
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nayumi
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Odge
Sweden84 Posts
7.1 and skype/vent with the megladons work, but I normally turn the 7.1 off as it get's kind of weird when you mix the 7.1 sound from SC2 and the mono from skype. I have used clip-on mics, those long mics that you put on your desk and cheap headsets and I have to say that I hated all of them. The worst thing you can do to the sound quality is to get a 3.5 analog stereo mic. Unless you have a really good soundcard that was made for actually recording (read m-audio cards) you're going to get all kinds of interference. Once you get a USB mic you'll never go back. | ||
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slashwrist
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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Mass1ve
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jp_zer0
Canada48 Posts
-USB -Surround -Wireless -"gaming" The science of headphones (dynamic drivers) is an old one with few innovations. The best headphone makers have been around for a long time and the "gaming headset" clique is just ripping you off. Forget about Razer, Steelseries, logitech, etc. You need to be looking at Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser, Audio-Technica, Shure, Denon, (sometimes) Sony, etc. Another thing you need to know is that the audio circuitry in the typical integrated sound card is only worth 1$. You can't get much out of headphones with this. Typical Creative soundcards aren't optimal either, far from it. A proper setup should have 3 components: A DAC (digital to analog converter), an amplifier and a pair of headphones. The worst component in the chain will limit the others. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On August 17 2010 20:12 jp_zer0 wrote: I'm a headphone enthusiast and owned 2000$+ of audio equipment and there's a few gimmicks that almost guarantee a terrible product: -USB -Surround -Wireless -"gaming" The science of headphones (dynamic drivers) is an old one with few innovations. The best headphone makers have been around for a long time and the "gaming headset" clique is just ripping you off. Forget about Razer, Steelseries, logitech, etc. You need to be looking at Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser, Audio-Technica, Shure, Denon, (sometimes) Sony, etc. Sure if you are like me and have a headphone amp to drive those much nicer headsets that are above 32 ohms. Seinheisser has some $300 set on buy for around the price of megadalon and are far far superior in every possible way. Some of the usb ones are decent like the g35 like I mentioned above if you want usb and 7.1 virtual sound. | ||
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jp_zer0
Canada48 Posts
On August 17 2010 20:18 Baarn wrote: Sure if you are like me and have a headphone amp to drive those much nicer headsets that are above 32 ohms. Seinheisser has some $300 set on buy for around the price of megadalon and are far far superior in every possible way. Some of the usb ones are decent like the g35 like I mentioned above if you want usb and 7.1 virtual sound. Most Audio-Technica headphones don't require a beefy amp. But yeah don't buy some sennheiser HD600 or HD800 and expect them to work well with your integrated audio. My 600ohm Beyerdynamics can get surprisingly loud when I plug them in an iPod tho. Didn't try integrated audio but should be the same. (can't say the G35 is anywhere near decent sorry) | ||
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Fodder03
Canada142 Posts
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Odge
Sweden84 Posts
On August 17 2010 20:12 jp_zer0 wrote: I'm a headphone enthusiast and owned 2000$+ of headphone equipment and there's a few gimmicks that almost guarantee a terrible product: -USB -Surround -Wireless -"gaming" The science of headphones (dynamic drivers) is an old one with few innovations. The best headphone makers have been around for a long time and the "gaming headset" clique is just ripping you off. Forget about Razer, Steelseries, logitech, etc. You need to be looking at Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser, Audio-Technica, Shure, Denon, (sometimes) Sony, etc. Another thing you need to know is that the audio circuitry in the typical integrated sound card is only worth 1$. You can't get much out of headphones with this. Typical Creative soundcards aren't optimal either, far from it. A proper setup should have 3 components: A DAC (digital to analog converter), an amplifier and a pair of headphones. The worst component in the chain will limit the others. Yes, USB on the output is a waste. For input though you're better off with USB, you DON'T want to run any kind of unshielded cable carrying an analog signal that will be SERIOUSLY amplified before it reaches your skype partner. That 3.5 mm cable passing right next to equipment running at 500w. Without any shielding, you're bound to get some interference, and the earlier in the process you get that interference the more the interference will be amplified. Laptops and other appliances (iPhones, iPods etc) don't induce as much interference, which is why they work well with 3.5 mm analog microphones. There is a reason why most semi-pro microphones use USB. | ||
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jp_zer0
Canada48 Posts
On August 17 2010 21:51 Odge wrote: Yes, USB on the output is a waste. For input though you're better off with USB, you DON'T want to run any kind of unshielded cable carrying an analog signal that will be SERIOUSLY amplified before it reaches your skype partner. That 3.5 mm cable passing right next to equipment running at 500w. Without any shielding, you're bound to get some interference, and the earlier in the process you get that interference the more the interference will be amplified. Laptops and other appliances (iPhones, iPods etc) don't induce as much interference, which is why they work well with 3.5 mm analog microphones. There is a reason why most semi-pro microphones use USB. Studio Microphones use analog XLR connectors. The cable is not the source of noise. It's the digital converter circuit of your computer mixed with the microphone quality. USB microphones will seem better because they will have a half-decent digital converter in them. | ||
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Odge
Sweden84 Posts
On August 17 2010 22:11 jp_zer0 wrote: Studio Microphones use analog XLR connectors. The cable is not the source of noise. It's the digital converter circuit of your computer mixed with the microphone quality. USB microphones will seem better because they will have a half-decent digital converter in them. What I'm trying to say is that for most users, a USB microphone will seriously reduce the white noise. And your 2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 partners will find playing with you a lot more enjoyable. I'm not an audiophile, so I don't really care if the sound quality when gaming is not the best I can get. What I do care about is not having to spend 40 minutes in a team game with constant white noise. + Show Spoiler + Don't want to derail the topic even more, but when I'm talking about semi-pro equipment I'm talking about $150 podcasting equipment | ||
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
United States346 Posts
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
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Azile
United States339 Posts
On August 17 2010 20:12 jp_zer0 wrote: I'm a headphone enthusiast and owned 2000$+ of headphone equipment and there's a few gimmicks that almost guarantee a terrible product: -USB -Surround -Wireless -"gaming" The science of headphones (dynamic drivers) is an old one with few innovations. The best headphone makers have been around for a long time and the "gaming headset" clique is just ripping you off. Forget about Razer, Steelseries, logitech, etc. You need to be looking at Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser, Audio-Technica, Shure, Denon, (sometimes) Sony, etc. Another thing you need to know is that the audio circuitry in the typical integrated sound card is only worth 1$. You can't get much out of headphones with this. Typical Creative soundcards aren't optimal either, far from it. A proper setup should have 3 components: A DAC (digital to analog converter), an amplifier and a pair of headphones. The worst component in the chain will limit the others. While you are correct a lot of people (the vast majority) don't care to spend more on a audio setup for gaming than they spent on their entire PC. Myself I have a decent speaker system and only use a headset when I need a mic, a $80 USB headset is perfect for me regardless of whether or not your $800 setup sounds better. | ||
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Azile
United States339 Posts
Accidental double post. | ||
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jp_zer0
Canada48 Posts
On August 18 2010 00:08 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote: okay well i'm very interested in doing this right... so with the pc350 what would be a sound card that you guys would reccommend that would amp this bad boy up and give it the high quality sound i'm looking for... i was looking into the Xonar Xense it's not out yet looks like its specially designed for a new version of the pc350 bundled together anyone hear about this and think it's going to be the new top of the line bundle for audio equipment? i wish i could find out when it's expected HT Omega Claro Halo. Everything else is a toy if you're talking about headphones. | ||
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