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BerserKr
Profile Joined July 2010
Chile101 Posts
August 13 2010 03:20 GMT
#141
You must love IdrA, he knows he is unfavoured against Terran, but he is still cocky immediatley assuming that he will be atleast in the finals, and hopefuly not with a Toss, so people can find out how overpowered is Terran, and still beat them.
Was it IdrA that actually said something like "ask me to forgive you for playing that race", when he was facing a Terran xD ?
correct me if wrong please, i remember i lol'ed until i got a 6-pack with that comment.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Kigari
Profile Joined August 2010
Bahrain134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 03:23:20
August 13 2010 03:21 GMT
#142
On August 13 2010 12:09 Raiznhell wrote:
this is getting old, the terran OP rage. i don't get it artosis used to be a terran player himself in BW and then made a conscious choice to switch to zerg cuz they are "more macro" oriented which is bull cuz if you dont know how to play genuine macro games as any race ur gunna get screwed.
both these players were terrans and then switched to zergs and now rage terran is OP. seriously if terran is so OP switch back to terran and quit making us players who are legitimate terrans for life feel guilty for playing our old race just becasue they have some good strengths. pretty sure terrans dominate sc BW nowadays too but oh no they wern't overpowered then. if your going to support the community support the WHOLE community and quit calling terrans talentless.


The catch is that anything that beats them is OP. Just as cyclists and some athletes will accuse anyone beating them to be on steroids.

Drugs not being known to "enhance" the ability to play video games, the blame then goes from "dosed-up cheater" to "noob using OP".
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 13 2010 03:22 GMT
#143
On August 13 2010 11:14 Kigari wrote:
It's not true ?

Fire a test map and put whatever terran ground unit group aside from thors on top of 6 burrowed banelings.

Select the banelings, hit X (i think) and watch a good size of the terran force disappear...


That's like saying DTs, Lurkers (in SC1), or any units which require detection are imbalance.

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
August 13 2010 03:23 GMT
#144
On August 13 2010 12:18 Headshot wrote:
He's not calling them talentless. It is just easier to win as Terran. That's a fact.



support your claims then if it's a "fact" i've seen diamond zergs simply 1a move ultras into well positioned mech placements and just eat everything. it's simple whoever macros better int he late game wins theres no "easier" to it. same as in original starcraft. more bases = bigger army = better chance to win no matter what your race is.
Cake or Death?
Kigari
Profile Joined August 2010
Bahrain134 Posts
August 13 2010 03:27 GMT
#145
The above poster is correct. The zerg ultralisk is definitely overpowered by the way. In a long macro game where you have enough cash available you just a-move some ultras and watch them trash everything.

It's particularly demonstrable (ironically) in ZvZ where the only way to stop such an assault is to basically only have hydras or mutas in your army...
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 13 2010 03:30 GMT
#146
On August 13 2010 11:14 Kigari wrote:
It's not true ?

Fire a test map and put whatever terran ground unit group aside from thors on top of 6 burrowed banelings.

Select the banelings, hit X (i think) and watch a good size of the terran force disappear...


Show me high level games were burrowed banelings have won the game, or even utilized. Have you ever heard of something called detection? Just because you can create a scenario in the editor, doesn't mean it is useful in game. If you want to argue about balance, please use examples that actually makes sense.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
willeesmalls
Profile Joined March 2010
United States477 Posts
August 13 2010 03:34 GMT
#147
On August 13 2010 12:23 Raiznhell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 12:18 Headshot wrote:
He's not calling them talentless. It is just easier to win as Terran. That's a fact.



support your claims then if it's a "fact" i've seen diamond zergs simply 1a move ultras into well positioned mech placements and just eat everything. it's simple whoever macros better int he late game wins theres no "easier" to it. same as in original starcraft. more bases = bigger army = better chance to win no matter what your race is.


The problem is getting to that stage, as Terran can take a huge advantage if not win the game outright prior to ultralisk tech hitting.
RandomBS
Profile Joined July 2010
United States130 Posts
August 13 2010 03:36 GMT
#148
the funniest part is that in BW Artosis constantly bitched about how protoss was overpowered against terran.. A lot of the new people don't know that. Artosis blames all his failing on race imbalance (he played terran in BW with idra of course) because its easier. This is nothing new people.
"an intelligent zerg will go 2 hatch, my build was designed to take advantage of that and so lost because he went 3 hatch. going 3 hatch is utterly retarded for the reasons i just explained so yes i did lose because he did something dumb." -idra
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 13 2010 03:37 GMT
#149
On August 13 2010 12:27 Kigari wrote:
The above poster is correct. The zerg ultralisk is definitely overpowered by the way. In a long macro game where you have enough cash available you just a-move some ultras and watch them trash everything.

It's particularly demonstrable (ironically) in ZvZ where the only way to stop such an assault is to basically only have hydras or mutas in your army...


Without ultras, all the terran would need to do to win is to scout when the broodlords are coming and make vikings. I wouldn't have any problem seeing zerg tier 3 get a nerf if Blizzard fixes the freaking early and mid game.
mcht
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany201 Posts
August 13 2010 03:40 GMT
#150
the whining in this thread is way worse than the little sarcasm in the vid ^^
woolly
Profile Joined May 2010
United States56 Posts
August 13 2010 03:42 GMT
#151
On August 13 2010 09:39 biology]major wrote:
It seems only thing idra is good at is qq'ing, and the rest of the zerg population follow in his footsteps


Hey man! You just insulted 20% of the people who play starcraft!
SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
August 13 2010 03:43 GMT
#152
If terran could only win by getting battlecruisers people might start calling them overpowered when terran tries to tech to them in every macro game as well.
I'm such a baller in my dreams. - HiFriend
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 13 2010 03:47 GMT
#153
On August 13 2010 08:51 Backpack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 08:49 Kigari wrote:
On August 13 2010 08:45 NuKedUFirst wrote:
I don't see how this is relevant. If games don't go over 5 minutes you got cheesed because your opponent wasn't good enough to play your legitly.


Which is maybe why I haven't seen a single replay of IdrA where he DOESN'T cheese ? (Ok I lied, maybe i've seen 3 or 4 on the 50 or so games I've seen from him...)

Even the most unknown casters of the darkest pits of internet are starting to call it "typical IdrAge" when a scrub fails his cheese and starts to rage... so... meh.. lol ;-)

you have it backwards sir

IdrA practically never cheeses and his legendary rage is when he loses to people who cheese because he is a huge fan of long macro games.

You guys got trolled hard

Good interview!
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
August 13 2010 03:51 GMT
#154
Awesome interview, thanks Dan and Greg
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 03:59:29
August 13 2010 03:57 GMT
#155
On August 13 2010 12:47 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 08:51 Backpack wrote:
On August 13 2010 08:49 Kigari wrote:
On August 13 2010 08:45 NuKedUFirst wrote:
I don't see how this is relevant. If games don't go over 5 minutes you got cheesed because your opponent wasn't good enough to play your legitly.


Which is maybe why I haven't seen a single replay of IdrA where he DOESN'T cheese ? (Ok I lied, maybe i've seen 3 or 4 on the 50 or so games I've seen from him...)

Even the most unknown casters of the darkest pits of internet are starting to call it "typical IdrAge" when a scrub fails his cheese and starts to rage... so... meh.. lol ;-)

you have it backwards sir

IdrA practically never cheeses and his legendary rage is when he loses to people who cheese because he is a huge fan of long macro games.

You guys got trolled hard

Good interview!

This. I read Kigari's post history and he has to be consciously trolling 90%+ of the time. I mean half of his posts are whining about terran imba, and half are whining about people whining about terran imba.

"Trolling in the sc2 forum is like relieving yourself in a river of piss."
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Keap
Profile Joined July 2010
United States214 Posts
August 13 2010 04:00 GMT
#156
Of course, another perfectly good thread being turned into T imba wars.

Side 1: OMG Terran imba OP zerg can't win RAGEEE. Nerf marauder/tank!!!!
Side 2: Excuses that make no sense from Terrans trying to justify their race's SLIGHT advantage currently in the state of the game

Get over it people
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
August 13 2010 04:06 GMT
#157
I've been reading some of the Idra hate and I have to say. When I first began to follow the foreigner scene I thought Idra was just a cocky ass bastard, but I've really come to like him as a player. As far as I can tell he has a genuine respect for the game. I've come to take his alleged "cockyness" as just simple confidence. I like the fact that he doesn't beat around the bush saying that he will make it out of his group. It's true he is good and is the one that is most likely to make it out of his group. Show the man some respect. He does BM a lot, but he is still a progammer and much better than anyone posting in this thread.
What's that probe doing there? It's a scout. You mean one of those flying planes? No....
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 04:08:49
August 13 2010 04:06 GMT
#158
On August 13 2010 12:22 nayumi wrote:

That's like saying DTs [...] in SC1 [...] are imbalance.



Would anybody ever say something like that?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
nira
Profile Joined April 2010
United States116 Posts
August 13 2010 04:08 GMT
#159
On August 13 2010 12:57 Butigroove wrote:
"Trolling in the sc2 forum is like relieving yourself in a river of piss."


Seems like... the right place to be trolling? rofl
Kigari
Profile Joined August 2010
Bahrain134 Posts
August 13 2010 04:13 GMT
#160
On August 13 2010 13:06 Zerksys wrote:
I've been reading some of the Idra hate and I have to say. When I first began to follow the foreigner scene I thought Idra was just a cocky ass bastard, but I've really come to like him as a player. As far as I can tell he has a genuine respect for the game. I've come to take his alleged "cockyness" as just simple confidence. I like the fact that he doesn't beat around the bush saying that he will make it out of his group. It's true he is good and is the one that is most likely to make it out of his group. Show the man some respect. He does BM a lot, but he is still a progammer and much better than anyone posting in this thread.


Yeah, the game... Not the people who play it ;-)

As far as the confidence thing goes it's ok to be just confident. What's less ok by any decent standard is to become an arrogant asshole with a superiority complex :-D

(Contrary to the "can't expand" comment, THAT could be considered rude or insulting btw) ^^
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