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sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
August 13 2010 01:54 GMT
#121
I hope either IdrA or DIMAGA wins the tournament!!!!

Go Zerg!
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 02:05:02
August 13 2010 01:56 GMT
#122
On August 13 2010 08:54 Vokasak wrote:
The thread title is misleading. "IdrA on Balance" would be more accurate. It's sad to see strong, capable players give in to mindless Terran hate.


What's funny is that you could probably replace all instances of "Terran" with "Protoss" and it'd be like jumping into the past. Speaking of which:

On August 13 2010 10:50 kajeus wrote:
People will think terran is not overpowered if the evidence that they're not overpowered continues to accumulate!!!


I expect that to be quite naive. I don't know if Terran is overpowered or not, but I can assure you evidence is far from the central issue, and if the idea remains popular, it will be believed regardless of the evidence.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
August 13 2010 01:57 GMT
#123
On August 13 2010 10:52 Headshot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 10:50 kajeus wrote:
People will think terran is not overpowered if the evidence that they're not overpowered continues to accumulate!!!

Just because a Zerg player is able to defeat a Terran player doesn't mean that Terran isn't overpowered, whether it is or it isn't.

Indeed! IdrA is 400x better than any terran player!
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
August 13 2010 02:03 GMT
#124
Thanks for the interview, would have been better without the balance comments, whether it's true or not I don't think it has it's place there <<
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Kigari
Profile Joined August 2010
Bahrain134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 02:07:42
August 13 2010 02:06 GMT
#125
A lot of protoss players weren't complaining about terran being OP when they were raping them by rushing to noobrays...

I don't see many zergs complain that their burrowed banelings are an instant-death invisible minefield to any terran ground either...

Could it be that previously overpowered units being nerfed to a more or less balanced position instantly made most players worthless or is it that Terran players wised up and learned to be more effective ?

My a-move is not winning the game anymore !! [insert whatever here]'s OP !!!
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4450 Posts
August 13 2010 02:07 GMT
#126
On August 13 2010 11:03 CynanMachae wrote:
Thanks for the interview, would have been better without the balance comments, whether it's true or not I don't think it has it's place there <<

it wouldn't be very interesting if Idra didn't give reasons for his choices... and his reasons happen to be terran imbalance
blabberrrrr
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 13 2010 02:11 GMT
#127
On August 13 2010 11:06 Kigari wrote:
A lot of protoss players weren't complaining about terran being OP when they were raping them by rushing to noobrays...

I don't see many zergs complain that their burrowed banelings are an instant-death invisible minefield to any terran ground either...

Could it be that previously overpowered units being nerfed to a more or less balanced position instantly made most players worthless or is it that Terran players wised up and learned to be more effective ?

My a-move is not winning the game anymore !! [insert whatever here]'s OP !!!


You are right, protoss players didn't complain. Terran players did.

And zerg doesn't complain about "instant-death invisible minefield to any terran ground" because it isn't true.
Kigari
Profile Joined August 2010
Bahrain134 Posts
August 13 2010 02:14 GMT
#128
It's not true ?

Fire a test map and put whatever terran ground unit group aside from thors on top of 6 burrowed banelings.

Select the banelings, hit X (i think) and watch a good size of the terran force disappear...

Bowzer
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada214 Posts
August 13 2010 02:16 GMT
#129
On August 13 2010 11:14 Kigari wrote:
It's not true ?

Fire a test map and put whatever terran ground unit group aside from thors on top of 6 burrowed banelings.

Select the banelings, hit X (i think) and watch a good size of the terran force disappear...


That's like saying send in a control group of dt's and watch my ground forces disappear.

Your comparing apples to oranges.
A drinking community with a gaming problem.
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
August 13 2010 02:18 GMT
#130
Lately it is starting to feel like Terrancraft. Played about 30 ladder games today, I'd say 25 of them were Terran. Mech Mech Mech!!
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
August 13 2010 02:20 GMT
#131
On August 13 2010 11:14 Kigari wrote:
It's not true ?

Fire a test map and put whatever terran ground unit group aside from thors on top of 6 burrowed banelings.

Select the banelings, hit X (i think) and watch a good size of the terran force disappear...




Ravens, what are they. Only a fool Terran would move out without one when their are banelings in play. As far as A-moving not working anymore, tell that to the thor/tank/helion combo.
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
August 13 2010 02:20 GMT
#132
Idra FTW.

Zerg FTW!!
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
August 13 2010 02:30 GMT
#133
I think DeMuslim will perform well in this tourney, he's better than Idra gives him credit for.

Don't hate the player, hate the game
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
August 13 2010 02:46 GMT
#134
On August 13 2010 11:30 FuRong wrote:
I think DeMuslim will perform well in this tourney, he's better than Idra gives him credit for.



didn't he say DeMuslim would advance from his group? Anyway.. nice interview, Idra always has pretty insightful comments since he just knows so much about the community... Poor Artosis though =( prove him wrong artosis!! =)
a.k.a reLapSe ---
atombombforpeace
Profile Joined December 2008
United States408 Posts
August 13 2010 02:48 GMT
#135
Without the imbalance jokes there's really not too much in the interview- he admitted to not really knowing about half the players besides their results.

And compared to some past interviews, it seems like he's giving people more credit, even noting that he only has a "chance" to win it, and listing out players he could have trouble with (including the terran imba comments I guess).
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 13 2010 02:56 GMT
#136
On August 13 2010 11:46 stk01001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 11:30 FuRong wrote:
I think DeMuslim will perform well in this tourney, he's better than Idra gives him credit for.



didn't he say DeMuslim would advance from his group? Anyway.. nice interview, Idra always has pretty insightful comments since he just knows so much about the community... Poor Artosis though =( prove him wrong artosis!! =)

They were staging the whole thing!

Artosis is actually the new SC2 bonjwa. He never revealed his secret builds and techniques because world domination requires patience.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 03:19:46
August 13 2010 03:09 GMT
#137
this is getting old, the terran OP rage. i don't get it artosis used to be a terran player himself in BW and then made a conscious choice to switch to zerg cuz they are "more macro" oriented which is bull cuz if you dont know how to play genuine macro games as any race ur gunna get screwed.
both these players were terrans and then switched to zergs and now rage terran is OP. seriously if terran is so OP switch back to terran and quit making us players who are legitimate terrans for life feel guilty for playing our old race just becasue they have some good strengths. pretty sure terrans dominate sc BW nowadays too but oh no they wern't overpowered then. if your going to support the community support the WHOLE community and quit calling terrans talentless.

if it was SOO imbalanced i'm pretty darn sure blizzard would have put some sort of fix in there.
besides every tournament winner is either a protoss or a zerg so how's terran the easy race. and theres no more "theres no good terrans out there to prove they are OP" arguement cuz intotherainbow is a progamer and he didnt win the king of the beta did he.
i've seen zerg crush terrans in numerous ways, things from mass ultralisks to baneling/muta to mass roach/broodlord and even some strategies involving hydralisks.

Cake or Death?
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 03:19:18
August 13 2010 03:18 GMT
#138
He's not calling them talentless. It is just easier to win as Terran. That's a fact.

-
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 13 2010 03:18 GMT
#139
Thanks for video Artosis and Idra, I really appreciate these videos no matter their lengths.

And to everyone who's raging right now, chill out, embrace the anger, and play some more SC.

glhf to those in the tourney!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
crimsonsentinel
Profile Joined April 2010
United States179 Posts
August 13 2010 03:18 GMT
#140
IdrA has no respect for Artosis =D
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