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iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 19:13:32
August 11 2010 21:44 GMT
#1
Edit: the 3 replays + the discovery that this guy maphacked BigT on air leave no doubt and he's been reported.

In this game, said protoss player walks to my natural without scouting and drops a pylon and 2 gates. Then this:

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Why is he placing a pylon here?

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Lucky positioning? He keeps building and canceling pylon so I can't complete my wall, rendering me defenseless from his zealots

Replay:
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Is there any legit explanation for this? I wasn't streaming or anything. Where do I report this to Blizzard, if so? I'd like to be sure it's MH before I report someone.

Edit: I've added two replays from people he recently played:

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vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
August 11 2010 21:47 GMT
#2
oh lawdy, he COULD have taken a huge guess, but it sure seems rather suspicious.
But why did he do that anyway?
chooooch
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
August 11 2010 21:47 GMT
#3
It was probably going to be a proxy 2gate, and he just happened to make the proxy where you were.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 21:48:39
August 11 2010 21:48 GMT
#4
On August 12 2010 06:47 57 Corvette wrote:
It was probably going to be a proxy 2gate, and he just happened to make the proxy where you were.


How do you explain randomly placing a pylon on the open spot in my wall before he scouted my wall?

On August 12 2010 06:47 Kexx wrote:
oh lawdy, he COULD have taken a huge guess, but it sure seems rather suspicious.
But why did he do that anyway?


He kept building and canceling pylon so I couldn't complete my walloff.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
silencesc
Profile Joined July 2010
United States464 Posts
August 11 2010 21:48 GMT
#5
Looks suspicious to me...especially because he just places it and leaves. Id post on Bnet forums with the replay and have the blues respond.
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JHancho
Profile Joined May 2010
United States166 Posts
August 11 2010 21:49 GMT
#6
Unsure.

I'll look at the replay when I get home, but the second shot looks like it was to block an add-on.

The game wasn't very long. What happened with the rest of it?

And, did you scout him first?
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TheHof
Profile Joined March 2010
United States92 Posts
August 11 2010 21:50 GMT
#7
That is probably often the open space. If I watched 20 replays of your tvp I'll bet 18 of them would have that space free at that time index. I wouldn't call it conclusive evidence.
"It's so nerve wracking, I'm just crossing my fingers and sayin' c'mooon esports"-Day[9]
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
August 11 2010 21:51 GMT
#8
On August 12 2010 06:50 TheHof wrote:
That is probably often the open space. If I watched 20 replays of your tvp I'll bet 18 of them would have that space free at that time index. I wouldn't call it conclusive evidence.


He didn't even know I was there, that I was walling in, or anything. I usually don't wall in at all.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 11 2010 21:52 GMT
#9
Obvious map hack, he's constantly looking in your base while building in your nat
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
August 11 2010 21:52 GMT
#10
I looked over the replay, and sure enough if you follow is player cam around 1 minute mark, he just stares at your base without being able to see anything.

but again it's not really 100% proof, and it's not like you can do anything about it.
chooooch
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
August 11 2010 21:54 GMT
#11
Of course he's a maphacker, his FPView totally gives it away.

That being said, even if you aren't 100% sure someone is a maphacker, but feel a lot of suspicious stuff is going down, reporting them does a lot more good than harm.
skating
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
August 11 2010 21:55 GMT
#12
On August 12 2010 06:52 floor exercise wrote:
Obvious map hack, he's constantly looking in your base while building in your nat

latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
August 11 2010 21:55 GMT
#13
there is a report player thing on b.net just so you know
ScrubMcDub
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada22 Posts
August 11 2010 21:56 GMT
#14
unorthodox scouting the further walking distance base first too. i hope this hacker dies.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 11 2010 21:59 GMT
#15
On August 12 2010 06:44 iEchoic wrote:

Is there any legit explanation for this? I wasn't streaming or anything. Where do I report this to Blizzard, if so? I'd like to be sure it's MH before I report someone.


You can send a report here: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&tag=hacksform&rhtml=true
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Skaff
Profile Joined February 2010
United States240 Posts
August 11 2010 22:03 GMT
#16
The placement seems like it would be a valid way to mess with a Terran wall and pretty legit... if it was just on a two player map. However, the single scout path and the pylon placement before the location was revealed is a little odd. The combination of the fast proxy to an unknown area and the pylon placement does make you wonder a lot.
Justifer
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
107 Posts
August 11 2010 22:06 GMT
#17
26-11 and hes a map hacker. thats fucking pathetic
Zalias
Profile Joined June 2010
Lithuania79 Posts
August 11 2010 22:11 GMT
#18
This is totaly obvious lol. He starts gateways in front of your base without scouting u in a 2v2 map. Not talking that he didnt check the close position first as any good player would do... And that pylon placement was ofmg... for those who think its not evidence check replay
Excomm
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States152 Posts
August 11 2010 22:12 GMT
#19
The fact that he queued the pylon there with no scouting is suspicious, but it's not a guarantee that he was maphacking. It's really hard to say without more evidence.
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
August 11 2010 22:13 GMT
#20
It's circumstantial evidence so I can't say I agree with you.
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