EPTShould pro gamers be pressured to look good? - Page 3
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AbsentLover
Romania84 Posts
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On August 11 2010 04:59 Fenrir-Vice wrote: They shouldn't be pressured, but i'm sure it is on their mind that they are the face of the e-sports community. Look at CJ when they popped their collars, was soooo imba and dead sexy. THe thing is all the Koreans are on live national TV, people can see them. Most of the other pros are nothing but a user name with no face, usually not even a voice, so they feel no need to take care of their looks. If they were on TV they'd be shamed into taking care of themselves | ||
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prodiG
Canada2016 Posts
On August 11 2010 05:05 f0rk wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i48.tinypic.com/33a456p.jpg) HAHAHA fucking cooller. guy eats people's faces at quake all day andt hen walks around the hotel in a speedo making people feel even more inferior | ||
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
On August 11 2010 04:35 tacrats wrote: Pro gamers should be able to show up any way they damn want. They arnt there to look pretty in interviews they are there to sit infront of a pc all day and own people at a video game. obviously its different in korea because its a sport and are national stars. The only problem with what you said is that the majority of us WANT NA to become like Korea when it comes to Esports. We want people like QXC to be national stars so i do think it is a good idea to look at least Presentable when doing an interview or playing in a trounament. They can wear what ever they want when they practice at home but at any media event they should try to look nice! | ||
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Kaosx
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Rasta Ninjah
United Kingdom6 Posts
I think its ok to educate people on the importance of apperance in terms of representing your sport etc However, if in their minds aren't "tidy" they will not pull off the look they are trying to portray. What esport pioneers should think about (market here to be exploited) is developing institutions that allow pro/gamers to develope mind body and spirit equally. Which I think in turn will improve different aspects of their lives, including imo their performance in games. Is there such a thing as a epsort gym or night club and would you go to one? | ||
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ToxNub
Canada805 Posts
On August 11 2010 04:55 Ordained wrote: But you could probably take a shower and use acne medication once a day, not gona name any names but some of the up and coming players are FUGLY, And when it comes to sports people are vain, look at sport stars, drive nice cars, expensive clothes and are usually fit, esports stars drive a Daewoo Lanos, have ripped Oldnavy tees, long greasy hair and pimples. Couldnt hurt to take pride in how you look. I think people are ignoring the rather obvious fact that pro-gamers are nerds and sports professionals were typically high-school quarterbacks and etc. You don't start out by being ugly, then drive sports cars and wear nice clothes and become good looking. You sorta have it, or you don't. At least it's pretty tied to your development. If you could afford to dress nice, your dad might be rich. If your Dad's rich, your mom is probably hot. If your mom is hot, then you probably can't be that bad looking, either. You're probably going to play sports and date girls and stuff. If you had no friends and didn't know how to dress yourself well, chances are you developed a taste for video games. The less good looking you are, the less people think of you (this is not bs, either), the less friends you have, and the more time you have for video games. You got good at video games. Now you're a pro-gamer. So why are you going to turn around now, on the very thing that has defined you? You're a NERD. Either you LIKE being a nerd, or you are incapable of changing it. Yes, great, put on a clean shirt. But expecting these same people who were unable or unwilling to make those decisions much earlier in their life, who rather would dedicate their life to playing a video game... to turn around and behave like pop-icons is pretty hilarious... The correlation between being good at video games and getting laid frequently, looking like a model, and driving a sports car is not a positive one. | ||
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Azile
United States339 Posts
On August 11 2010 04:52 shawster wrote: btw, grubby's wife No lie, this man knows the score. ![[image loading]](http://images-www.readmore.de/gallery/smallphotos/12266.jpg) More on topic I think this is something that any player aiming to go pro should consider. Sponsors/organizers shouldn't have to pressure you to look presentable, you should already be doing it for yourself so you actually look professional. Classic example, watch the TLO vs MaDFroG showmatch, pretend you are Intel and you are scouting out players to join your team, pretend you don't know the results of the match. Which player would you take? FroG wins by a large margin, he presents himself far more professionally than TLO does. He was perfectly cool/calm in front of an audience and camera and very well groomed and dressed, while TLO kind of look like he just woke up and you could tell he was very aware of the cameras at all times and was doing his best to ignore them. Now this is not to say TLO won't gain that kind of presentation, this was his first LAN appearance after all while FroG has been around a long time.. this kind of thing is not new to him. | ||
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Stewie
Germany17 Posts
Situationally, ideally yes, they should. The thing is though, outside of the korean scene barely anyone can make enough cash by just playing to live on their own - therefor, if the marketing actually gets bigger and these dedicated players get the salaries they actually deserve, it would open the doors for them to think more about investing their money into looking good, or at least better. I sincerely hope that the salaries will increase outside of korea, simply because starcraft 2 is making it grow already by heaps, however until then people should stop caring less about their appearance, it is hard enough for them to be a gamer and live by just doing that. Many of them do not have enough of spare cash to invest into fashionable and / or clothes, despite probably wanting to. In case this changes in the near future, I'd definitely like to see the image of the way people regard gamers change to match ideals more - it would also help getting more companies interested in e-sports aswell. Time will tell. | ||
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MuTT
United States398 Posts
OMG lets do makeover guis! | ||
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
On August 11 2010 05:13 ToxNub wrote: I think people are ignoring the rather obvious fact that pro-gamers are nerds and sports professionals were typically high-school quarterbacks and etc. You don't start out by being ugly, then drive sports cars and wear nice clothes and become good looking. You sorta have it, or you don't. At least it's pretty tied to your development. If you could afford to dress nice, your dad might be rich. If your Dad's rich, your mom is probably hot. If your mom is hot, then you probably can't be that bad looking, either. You're probably going to play sports and date girls and stuff. If you had no friends and didn't know how to dress yourself well, chances are you developed a taste for video games. The less good looking you are, the less people think of you (this is not bs, either), the less friends you have, and the more time you have for video games. You got good at video games. Now you're a pro-gamer. So why are you going to turn around now, on the very thing that has defined you? You're a NERD. Either you LIKE being a nerd, or you are incapable of changing it. Yes, great, put on a clean shirt. But expecting these same people who were unable or unwilling to make those decisions much earlier in their life, who rather would dedicate their life to playing a video game... to turn around and behave like pop-icons is pretty hilarious... I think you're missing the point and your argument is relying very heavily on stereotypes that are developed at an adolescent stage of life. Being an ugly social misfit is not what defines someone as a gamer, though it is in the underlying implication in your statement. You might think you're being sympathetic to 'nerds', but that kind of attitude is what holds the culture back. Did you ever stop to think that many gamers developed a taste for video games because of an inclination to enjoy more intellectually stimulating activities? Do you think it's a coincidence that the kids who grew up with a lot of puzzles and complex toys turned out to be more likely to play video games that are intellectually driven? Ever notice that the kids who grew up in fucked up living conditions and didn't have many toys that turned out to have an affinity for activities that are less reliant on cerebral activity (ie sports) and ended up in social situations more often, leading to them becoming socially capable? I think "nerds" are considered 'ugly' through ages 12-20ish because they dont give two shits about looking good, or don't know how to. Once everyone's an adult, you all end up looking like adults. The nerdy girls discover makeup later than the social butterflies, and the nerdy guys realize later how to dress and work out. You mock 'behaving like pop-icons'. What exactly do you define as acting like a pop icon? Is trying to look good when thousands of people are looking at your face very day behaving like a pop icon? Why is that worth mocking? | ||
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heynes
Germany201 Posts
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kGold
Canada66 Posts
As for what clothes to wear... eh. Dress in your gaming gear or your PJ's for all I care. I play my best starcraft when I've got my sweat shorts on and a hoodie. Its just a social standard... looking good is a good thing. Whether its at work, school, or in public representing gamers, it does no harm and only good. | ||
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Melt
Switzerland281 Posts
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AyJay
1515 Posts
That's why Artosis and Idra aren't going anywhere with progaming. + Show Spoiler + just kidding. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On August 11 2010 05:07 PanzerDragoon wrote: Progaming exists in the way it does only because the sponsors use it as an advertising vehicle. And sponsors don't want to sponsor greasy nerds because no one wants to be associated with greasy nerds. Most of the American SC2 guys could use a Tasteless makeover  Isn't that exactly what I said? wtf  | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On August 11 2010 05:13 ToxNub wrote: I think people are ignoring the rather obvious fact that pro-gamers are nerds and sports professionals were typically high-school quarterbacks and etc. You don't start out by being ugly, then drive sports cars and wear nice clothes and become good looking. You sorta have it, or you don't. At least it's pretty tied to your development. If you could afford to dress nice, your dad might be rich. If your Dad's rich, your mom is probably hot. If your mom is hot, then you probably can't be that bad looking, either. You're probably going to play sports and date girls and stuff. If you had no friends and didn't know how to dress yourself well, chances are you developed a taste for video games. The less good looking you are, the less people think of you (this is not bs, either), the less friends you have, and the more time you have for video games. You got good at video games. Now you're a pro-gamer. So why are you going to turn around now, on the very thing that has defined you? You're a NERD. Either you LIKE being a nerd, or you are incapable of changing it. Yes, great, put on a clean shirt. But expecting these same people who were unable or unwilling to make those decisions much earlier in their life, who rather would dedicate their life to playing a video game... to turn around and behave like pop-icons is pretty hilarious... The correlation between being good at video games and getting laid frequently, looking like a model, and driving a sports car is not a positive one. wheres that venn diagram of team liquid and life barely overlapping | ||
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dbizzle
United States395 Posts
On August 11 2010 04:37 nam nam wrote: They should all be forced to look like the race they play, just for our pleasure. ahahah Garimto | ||
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oursblanc
Canada1450 Posts
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