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On December 22 2010 02:56 seanisgrand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 02:40 MrShank wrote:On December 21 2010 19:52 ThorIsHere wrote:1v1 on Metalopolis. He's a 2200 protoss, I'm 1800. He steals my gas, so I decide to 4-gate him. He sees it coming at the last second and throws up a few cannons (he went 3 gate forge for some reason). I overpower him and he ragequits. I message him after the game. ![[image loading]](http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4616/ragez.jpg) your a dick. Win a game with a 4 gate BM post-game message Terse yet understandable reply BM response Response to troll ending with some hilarious BM Screenshot posted to TL Majority of posters call you BM Whine and try to defend yourself Get taken to the woodshed Play the logical fallacy card to a situation to which it makes no sense Somewhere realize you are wrong In too deep so you have to keep arguing Get banned Become a vengeful hateful person Develop drinking habit Buy several cats Let them mate in your cellar Begin talking to yourself Get nominated to Intervention by concerned friends and family Found rocking in dark musty corner covered in scabies
looooooooool
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On December 21 2010 19:52 ThorIsHere wrote:1v1 on Metalopolis. He's a 2200 protoss, I'm 1800. He steals my gas, so I decide to 4-gate him. He sees it coming at the last second and throws up a few cannons (he went 3 gate forge for some reason). I overpower him and he ragequits. I message him after the game.
the guy tells you to not message him and you still do.
what part of "don't message me" do you not understand?
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http://www.mediafire.com/?jyht9hbc1t18g0l
after game he msg me all this
"you are trash"
"your so terrible"
"your a fking noob"
"all you did was camp"
etc
and i said "i had twice your bases, and im pretty sure even twice your worker count"
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ZvZ on metalopolis close spawn positions. I go 13 pool 13 gass to get some banelings and he goes 14 hatch 14 pool.
He: Hi were are you from? tell me your division.
I dont reply anything since i want to play and not chat with strangers about where do I live
I get there with 10 lings and banelings and he just got a queen and drones. I kill all the drones with some banelings while lings are fucking around over there.
He: Lamedr.
Leaves the game
10 minutes later he messages me:
Your the first person to not tell me hello ignorant fuckeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr
Disconnects. Reconnects 10 minutes later
YOU HEAR ME IGNORANT FUCKEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR
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Awhile back, when I was playing random, in the silver league (I'm not too great at Starcraft II), I decided to go mass Raven.
I managed to get pretty far ahead after clearing out his mineral line with auto turrets early on, and his final push I decimated.
Before he left, he said this:
![[image loading]](http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt277/leneyes/BM.jpg)
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On December 22 2010 03:55 ThorIsHere wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 02:30 Endbringer wrote:This is a terrible analogy. It would be more like in baseball, a manager bunting with no outs and a runner on first. The numbers say that you actually hurt your ability to score runs by bunting, but there may have been an underlying reason behind it.
Would it be "BM" to ask the manager why he did that? I surely hope not. In fact, after games -- win or lose -- in all major US sports, coaches and players answer questions from the media, often dealing with crucial decisions that led to a win or loss. Check out the press conference from the recent Eagles-Giants football game. As an sc2 player you are not the manager, you are the player. This isn't a press conference and we are not proffesional football players. We are people playing a video game. You are not asking someone who is payed win or lose, how they feel 15-20 minutes after a game they lost. You are asking a player 2 minutes after they lost, how they feel about losing. Its totally different. Wait, how is 15-20 minutes substantially different than 2 minutes? Explain. This may be the dumbest thing ever said on the Internet. And I've read 4Chan.]This is another logical fallacy. Just because a lot of people say something is correct or incorrect doesn't mean that it is therefore correct or incorrect. According to your logic, Islam is the one true religion because the majority of people in the world are Muslims.
No it isn't. Its called common sense. Again you are showing an inflated sense of self worth. You are not the smartest person in the room. This isn't argumentum ad populum (an appeal to the masses), because social moors and graces are not dictated by logic. They are dictated by popularity. Therefore how everyone else percieves your actions is all that matters. Its not illogical to believe that you are right even if everyone else says you are wrong. It is illogical to argue with other people about how they percieve your actions. If everyone percieves that you are being a dick, you are being a dick. There is no absolute right or wrong action in attitude, there is only perception. Logical reasoning does not apply. Okay, "social moors and graces" once told Americans that African Americans were objects to be bought and sold. See the errors of your ways yet?
(BTW, it's social MORES. You shouldn't have skipped college.)Sure it is. The guy responded in BM because he takes the ladder seriously and it appears to be the case here. The ladder doesn't matter until you get to the upper, upper echelon and it's going to be wiped soon anyway. It's not my opinion that the ladder, especially now, is meaningless; it's a fact. If you go on a 50-game winning streak, it won't mean a damn thing when the ladder is wiped clean.
Its a fact that the ladder is meaningless? How is that a fact? Since you BELIEVE the ladder is meaningless its a fact? You think because its not permanent it doesn't matter. Other people may not share your belief. Thats not a fact, thats an opinion. The ladder will be erased soon. Therefore, the current ladder is meaningless to all except the top-200 or so who will receive tangible rewards such as promotion and invitations to clans and tournaments. Again, facts.Take your own advice. You call me smug and egotistical but that's exactly what you're being in your response. You're incredibly presumptuous and resort to a ton of fallacious argumentation. Seriously. "You seem like a nice guy" may be one of the most smug things I've ever read on the Internet. I say that to soften the fact that I was about to shut down everything you said when you seemed like you might be damaged by it. All this talk about how you were going to shut down and just live in an internet box. I just felt bad coming down so hard on you. I guess that could appear smug, sorry. Also I guess people do get offended when I call them kids, but your responses lead me to believe that you are a kid, and since I am going to be 30 in 2 months I can call you that no matter how old you are  LOL, totally smug. Just because you proclaim yourself to be right doesn't make you right. And I'm the smug one? LMAO My replies in bold.
I can't go through and do the little quote reply thing right now because I am on my phone. So I will just have to do this off the cuff.
First off 2 minutes is different than 20 minutes because you are dealing with human emotion. Must people calm down over time and therefore are more able to talk rationally after some time to digest there thoughts.
I can't believe your argument about social norms is slavery and bad spelling. That's brilliant... This is a thread about manners not morality you idiot. Therefore your argument talking about tyranny of the majority is fucking asinine. Manners are a set of behaviors believed by a group of people and dictated by a majority opinion. Saying that everyone is wrong and you are right means you are wrong. Only a troll or a person completely devoid of common sense could believe otherwise. Let me help spell it out for you since you are slow. Here is a paste from wikipedia dealing with exceptions to the appeal to the masses logical fallacy.
Social convention
Matters of social convention, such as etiquette or polite manners, depend upon the wide acceptance of the convention. As such, argumentum ad populum is not fallacious when referring to the popular belief about what is polite or proper: "Most people in Russia think that it is polite for men to kiss each other in greeting. Therefore, it is polite for men to kiss each other in greeting in Russia."
Just because the ladder is not permanent does not make it meaningless. Restating your opinion again with your reasoning does not suddenly make it right. Some people do care about the ladder. That doesn't make them wrong, just different than you.
For the record I graduated from college when you were still in middle school. Do yourself a favor and stop replying. You are just embarrassing yourself at this point.
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On December 22 2010 01:07 ThorIsHere wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 00:53 Galleon.frigate wrote:On December 22 2010 00:22 ThorIsHere wrote:On December 22 2010 00:21 LambtrOn wrote:On December 22 2010 00:01 ThorIsHere wrote:On December 21 2010 22:50 shinwa wrote:On December 21 2010 22:10 ThorIsHere wrote:On December 21 2010 22:08 shinwa wrote:On December 21 2010 21:51 ThorIsHere wrote:On December 21 2010 20:56 shynee wrote:
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Thats not bm and its not rage quiting. You're the loser for messaging him after the game with that "qq" line.. Seems like you're in need for some attention. Yeah, that was because he was BM to me. Both of us could have learned something but he was BM because apparently when you lose it justifies being an asshole. I seriously can't believe people are defending that guy and blaming me. LOL I see your point now, but from reading that log you really do come off as rude. You might want to reevaluate your phrasing. Can you point out anything specifically, aside from the "qq" which was a response to his BM? Well, the first line makes you come off as sort of aggressive. It doesn't have to, but it can be interpreted like that. I would just suggest you being more polite and clear right from the start when messaging an opponent like this. Something in the lines with "Hi. I just wanted ask you regarding your response in the match we just played. Is there any particular reason for your reaction (since it's not that common)?" That might be an exaggeration, but that's how I look at it. How is "why steal my gas and not prepare for a 4 gate" in any way aggressive? There are no swear words, no insults, no implications of any kind. It is, literally, a question about strategy. I have no idea how one can infer anything else from it. I was thinking he'd have some reason for it, because you don't just go 3-gate forge with a gas-steal randomly, especially at the 2200 level in diamond. Because you won and it's basically rubbing it in. He was wrong to steal your gas and you're telling him to admit it. At least, that's probably how he perceived it. I'd be annoyed with you, too if you did that to me. It's not wrong at all; gas-stealing is a perfectly valid strategy. I do it sometimes myself. Not sure where you guys are pulling these assumptions from, but they make little to no sense. Message someone after a win = LOL U SUCK NOOB UNINSTALL PLZ Did not know that. Sorry, it's one thing to ask a question after a match you won, however it's another to message someone after they ask you to not message them. Everything you said after don't message me was BM, and it was all you. Thats right you were actually in the wrong. I hope you actually try to detatch yourself emotionally form this and actually read what people are saying and learn. Please do. Please do. You've never been mad after a loss? he does something stupid, and is mad after, you don't even soften your question with a positive remark to make it clear you're not trying to troll... then when CLEARLY shows he's raging and simply asks you to not message him you tease him and post his comments on the internet as him being a jerk. Do that same thing in person, and you will be in a fight. And everyone there will think you deserved it You are completely, 100% wrong. EDIT: Why is the burden of proof on me to prove I'm not trolling? Christ, this is why nerds are portrayed so poorly -- because most of them are so anti-social.
This is why people are portrayed so poorly, they are unwilling to accept they could be wrong, and instead of taking a step back and thinking through what they did, they bunker down and insist they are 100% right and everyone else is wrong. Could I be wrong? sure. Have you even considered that you're wrong? ... I doubt it. It's personal for you now. If you're wrong you've embarassed yourself in a public setting and it's easier to insist you're right.
The burden as a social being is to judge the emotional state of those you communicate with.
You have to understand someone could be mad after a loss (AT ANYTHING, even non-nerds), and that when dealing with someone who is already mad, you have to me more sensitive... also it's the internet. The other person can't hear your voice or read your body langage to judge if you're being sarcastic or not... THAT IS WHY you have to explicit about your tone to complete
strangers...
Look, even if you still think I'm 100% wrong and that you're one converstation is proof that all nerfs fail at talking to other people so bad that xbox live halo chat is all there will ever be... just actually think twice about some of the reasons listed.
And back to the actual thead... I was 6 pool + drone rushed, when I held it off he spent the next 15 minutes sending me messages calling me a fag noob whore. It was so funny I almost lost my next match laughing.
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00:00:14 - USKC to ALL: 2 ez
00:00:20 - Jin to ALL: 
00:27:14 - USKC to ALL: what the fuck
00:27:22 - Jin to ALL: wow very gg
00:27:28 - USKC to ALL: not at all
00:27:31 - USKC to ALL: you play like fucking shit
00:27:35 - Jin to ALL: i know
00:27:36 - Jin to ALL: I'm so high
00:27:37 - Jin to ALL: lol
00:28:03 - USKC to ALL: terran is so fucking overpowered
00:28:05 - USKC to ALL: jesus chrsit
00:28:10 - Jin to ALL: I guess so
00:28:18 - USKC to ALL: you are horrendous
00:28:23 - Jin to ALL: i know ^^
00:28:24 - USKC to ALL: quit playing starcraft
00:28:25 - Jin to ALL: like i said
story:
Metalopolis
I random terran and decided to take the gold expansion by lifting before the 7th scv.
i make 2 rax and pump marines while bunker rushing. in the end, the attempt failed.
i try to come back with constant aggression.
minerals spent: 35,825 vs 64,100 :: gas spent: 5,900 vs 16,750.
i was being out macroed and out teched big time but proceeded to win (i played horribly too).
cause imo: too many drones are bad too. (he spent most of his larva on drones instead of units, thinking he had the advantage, which he clearly did.) he could have run me over with units but instead made many, many drones.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/115243-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis
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ThorIsHere, you were both BM, simple as that. You and everyone involved in this argument, including myself now, please just shut up. No one cares anymore. Everything that can be said has been said, it's just going around in circles now.
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I'm a 2700 terran in EU and these 2 rages are the best.I tryed to censor the swearing :D hope i got then all:
"pwnagelol: OH YEAH I CAN FLY MY BASE
pwnagelol has reconnected.
You: hahahahaha
haters gonna hate
You: while i fly my bas
You: base around the map
pwnagelol: U F**KING SHIT RACE
pwnagelol: OH LOL I DROP THOR ON YOUR NAT
AND LOL U CANT DO NOTHING
LOOOL IM PRO
pwnagelol: I
F**KING
OWN
YOU
F**KING
NOOB
You: hahaha
pwnagelol: NOW GTFO
AND DIE
You: yea i saw
11 points
thx
pwnagelol: BANSHEE
LOOOOL STEALTH 2 DRONE SHOT
RORLOFLORLFORLFORLF
TERRANNNNNNN
i can kill you without eyes
stupid f**king map
You: hahaha
pwnagelol: YEAH FLYING EXPOS
LETS HELP TERRAN EVEN MORE
I CAN HAZ FLYING EXPOS
CUZ I CANT WIN
You: hahaha
pwnagelol: JUST WITH FREE ANTI NATURAL
YEAH
You: yea flying the expos was what went wrong for u :D
pwnagelol: u fucking noob
you are the worst opponent in my whole night
You: haters
gonna
hate
:>
pwnagelol: and i have to loose because of ridicolous imbaness
You: :D
hahahaha
pwnagelol: of your stupid noob race
f**king noob
i hope u die
You: u just got a major buff 5 weeks ago
pwnagelol: and ur gonna
You: and u still cry
pwnagelol: WHO CARES OF THE BUFF
I DONT HAVE INVIS AIR
I DONT HAVE DROPS
LOOOL LETS GET SCV REPAIRING!
OH YEAH IMMORTAL THOR
OH GOD IM SOGOOOOD
F**K YTEAH
You: u got +life for buildings and zerg has air superiority  learn2play
pwnagelol: HOW TO AIR SUPERIORITY WHILE U CAN FREE EXPO
You: hhahahaha
pwnagelol: YOU F**KING MONGELOID
You: u have the free expo
pwnagelol: OH YEAA FLYING EXPOS
OH YEAH ANTI AIR TURRETS
You: ahhahahaha
pwnagelol: F**K YEAHHH
You: man im laughing so hard
pwnagelol: god u sux so hard
f**king noob
You: yet i still won
"
Second one was even more funny:
TvZ- I win with mainly marines
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Him:Noob, retard noob!
Thats why I have sponsorship and u don't u noob! U win like that but u will never get sponsorship
You: Congratz on getting some free soda for that sponsorship.
Him: swearing alot."
I get the same guy so I play with him a second time, but he changed to T so it was TvT. he tryed a all-in marine scv push and failed.
"Him: maphacker! looser! noob! etc!
You: lol..."
and then a third time TvZ again with the same dude:
"Him: now im gonna roflstomp u!
You: yea yea but its still 2-0 till then :D"
I did a proxy baracks and all-inned him with scv marine and he actually saw it coming and I still won.
He raged out and continued to send profanities to me till i ignored him :D .
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one time i was in this sc2 club called liquid. one guy told his story about how he beat this guy using the most boring strategy ever even though his opponent knew what he was doing and didn't counter it. Then he told the guy why he didn't counter it? other guy said he didn't wanna talk. he then told us that his opponent was a rager and talked to him anyways. A few of us told him that he was mean and was a dick to his opponent. He couldn't accept the fact that he was and said we were wrong. He started an argument with one guy bringing up topics that were irrelevant like slavery and misspelled words. everyone watched and listened as this guy made a fool of himself.
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On December 22 2010 09:44 mardi wrote:
one time i was in this sc2 club called liquid. one guy told his story about how he beat this guy using the most boring strategy ever even though his opponent knew what he was doing and didn't counter it. Then he told the guy why he didn't counter it? other guy said he didn't wanna talk. he then told us that his opponent was a rager and talked to him anyways. A few of us told him that he was mean and was a dick to his opponent. He couldn't accept the fact that he was and said we were wrong. He started an argument with one guy bringing up topics that were irrelevant like slavery and misspelled words. everyone watched and listened as this guy made a fool of himself.
Wow this guy does sound like a dick
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On December 22 2010 09:44 mardi wrote:
one time i was in this sc2 club called liquid. one guy told his story about how he beat this guy using the most boring strategy ever even though his opponent knew what he was doing and didn't counter it. Then he told the guy why he didn't counter it? other guy said he didn't wanna talk. he then told us that his opponent was a rager and talked to him anyways. A few of us told him that he was mean and was a dick to his opponent. He couldn't accept the fact that he was and said we were wrong. He started an argument with one guy bringing up topics that were irrelevant like slavery and misspelled words. everyone watched and listened as this guy made a fool of himself.
it's ok, most clubs have that one guy who clearly doesn't belong
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On December 22 2010 03:56 ThorIsHere wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 02:56 seanisgrand wrote:On December 22 2010 02:40 MrShank wrote:On December 21 2010 19:52 ThorIsHere wrote:1v1 on Metalopolis. He's a 2200 protoss, I'm 1800. He steals my gas, so I decide to 4-gate him. He sees it coming at the last second and throws up a few cannons (he went 3 gate forge for some reason). I overpower him and he ragequits. I message him after the game. your a dick. Win a game with a 4 gate BM post-game message Terse yet understandable reply BM response Response to troll ending with some hilarious BM Screenshot posted to TL Majority of posters call you BM Whine and try to defend yourself Get taken to the woodshed Play the logical fallacy card to a situation to which it makes no sense Somewhere realize you are wrong In too deep so you have to keep arguing Get banned Become a vengeful hateful person Develop drinking habit Buy several cats Let them mate in your cellar Begin talking to yourself Get nominated to Intervention by concerned friends and family Found rocking in dark musty corner covered in scabies How's Matt Leinart, by the way? Thought he was gonna have a big year.
I wish! He just needs a chance in a west coast offense.
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On December 22 2010 04:37 BlackArCane wrote:
normally i am a thread reader than poster, but today something very funny happened..
ok, i am a 3v3, 4v4 terran player and i started from bronze and advance to gold (rank 1) now pending for promotion to plat... i can't be bothered with the "avatar" and i leave it at the default.
so today, i was playing another 3v3 opp was slightly favored, 2 protoss and 1 terran. My team consist of all terrans. The BMer was going for banshee and i am doing 5 rax push, the other team mate was going mm as well.
As usual, he built his 1st banshee and went on to harass the mineral lines, it was at the 7min mark and i move out with my MM mix and went on hitting the ramp of opponent.
Noticed 1 carrier at the ramp with basically no ground units, and i broke through the wall and got into their base. Basically i took out the nexus and then come the cavalry from the other team mates, and i lost all my units. In the mean-time i ping my team-mates that there are carriers...
Still continuing macroing and upgrading my MM, i move out 2nd time when my units are at 1atk and 2 Armour.... hitting the wall again, and in the process killing off 1 carrier with 2 remaining... and then the BM hero came with 6 vikings (no upgrade) and 4 banshee... at this point, i have 6 rax and tons of marines and muraders.. he killed off 2 carriers, and then he shouted in CAPS... GET ANTI-AIR YOU NOOB.....
in the mean time, i was too busy killing off the 2nd nexus and 2 members of the opponent left, leaving 1 terran behind. I asked him, is he calling me a noob? He then went out shouting that we did nothing, and he basically kill off all the enemy... i was bluffed, he did harass with banshee BUT not getting any bases..
with 3atk 3armour now.. and tons of marines, in what way they are not anti-air for 3 carriers?
anyway, i asked him to watch the reply before he start calling me a noob, and then all the nice words came out and tell me to stop playing SC2... and he even claimed that his "6" vikings can kill off ALL my units.. with NO upgrade.......
So eventually, the enemy terran managed to push up with thors and tanks and literally kill off his main while i am clearing off the enemy bases with my MMM...
after the game, i checked his stats.... he is a BRONZE player at rank 26..............
sorry for the long posts, but i have to get it off my chest... LOL
Haha, something kinda similar happened to me. I started a 4v4 off with a few reapers to harrass, transitioning into marauders after the reapers came out. As I was harrassing, a teammate who got 10(?) pooled started typing rage about how much ling rushing screws their economy, and telling the zerg that he was going to come and kill him later on. When I look at his base to see what's going on I see his nexus go down to the lings. So a minute later he's trying to rebuild his nexus, when a bunch of speedlings come and start attacking it, so he calls out to us to help. I told him I only had marauders, so I couldn't help (while my neighbour had a bunch of rines). Which is when he started raging at me, telling me that marauders own lings, and then starts abusing me and calling me a noob. Promptly afterwards, he rage quits because no one helps and we end up losing. I check his profile and he's bronze in every league, with less than a 50% win ratio lol.
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Woop Woop, The first guy who raged at me. Or somewhat.
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Just finished having a 10-minute post-game chat with the biggest troll I've encountered thus far!
In-game convo started like this (as I'm scouting with my drone.)
Term: rofl
Term: ncie gas steal
Term: dip shit
I don't respond since I'm not really into feeding trolls.
10 minutes later as my lings kill the nexus at his natural while he's, continuously, warping in units at my third:
Term: giod
Term: you fucking zerg faggot
Term: are so pathetic
[Me]: lol dont be mad
Term: seriously broken fucking race
Term: dont be mad?
[Me]: <3
Term: you would be too you pussy fucker
Term: god I guarantee im 50x the player you are
Term: you pussy little shit bad
[Me]: lol
Term: you just fucking sit behind spines + aclick raoches
Term: deny it all you want
Term: fucking little cunt sucking faggot
"Term has left the game"
Then of course he messaged me and tried to show off his e-peen as I just laughed in amusement ^^
But do you guys see a trend with these trolls? They all claim to be some super-human athletes and get every girl they desire. They're also convinced that everyone, on the opposite end of the convo, is an ugly nerd, who has NEVER gotten laid... I just love em! XD
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I played TvZ on blitering sands. He went tank, marine, medivac and I went mutalisks, speedlings, banelings. I did a couple of mistakes, like I didn't covered my back door, but I defended that easily. After that, macro game started and I proceeded to defeat him.
Before he left, he said "noob" and after the game, this happened.
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On December 23 2010 23:34 xerwin wrote:I played TvZ on blitering sands. He went tank, marine, medivac and I went mutalisks, speedlings, banelings. I did a couple of mistakes, like I didn't covered my back door, but I defended that easily. After that, macro game started and I proceeded to defeat him. Before he left, he said "noob" and after the game, this happened. + Show Spoiler +
You shouldn't argue with them, man. It's exactly what they want.
Just tell them to 'stop crying' or snap off a witty one-liner - then put them on ignore. Then the rager is left with nothing to unleash his anger on, and you can happily enter your next game while he's busy tearing his own hair out.
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On December 22 2010 04:48 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2010 19:52 ThorIsHere wrote:1v1 on Metalopolis. He's a 2200 protoss, I'm 1800. He steals my gas, so I decide to 4-gate him. He sees it coming at the last second and throws up a few cannons (he went 3 gate forge for some reason). I overpower him and he ragequits. I message him after the game. the guy tells you to not message him and you still do. what part of "don't message me" do you not understand?
yes this is childish
lol he says "dont message me" and you say "lol qq much" ... really??
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